Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Blood Red]

1. There is no 10 year plan. The reparations and rebuilding of Ukraine after the war will be paid for by Russia.

2. 90% of the US military help to Ukraine is spent in the US, not Ukraine.

3. There isn't a number that's too high to stop your wannabe Fuhrer.

So how much more of Ukraine do you want to get wrecked? How much more territory do you want the Russians to take and annex before you call for a ceasefire? Fact of the matter is that no one will keep funding this needless war that Ukraine cannot win. The collective west will force Ukraine to make peace on Russia's term most likely after the you. S elections, unless the AFU collapses before that which is possible.

[Xpartan]

Elensky already mentioned a minimum 10 year plan. Each year will require tens of billions of dollars. Another forever war while Ukraine gets wrecked.

1. There is no 10 year plan. The reparations and rebuilding of Ukraine after the war will be paid for by Russia.

2. 90% of the US military help to Ukraine is spent in the US, not Ukraine.

3. There isn't a number that's too high to stop your wannabe Fuhrer.

[Blood Red]

And how many Covid boosters did you get JC? Hmm.

Seeing as how your powers of prediction are so amazing, JC, where are we at in two years with this war? And by the way, is this the last of the money we need to give Ukraine? What will get for it and how much more will they need?

Elensky already mentioned a minimum 10 year plan. Each year will require tens of billions of dollars. Another forever war while Ukraine gets wrecked.

[Blood Red]

I'm simply curious about how you are compensated. If there's enough money to be had, I would like to get in on it. I know you are required to maintain the official line in this forum, so you can private message me the details of payment.

As I said, you have no argument, you cannot debate me. Run along now.

[Elvis 2008]

I'm simply curious about how you are compensated. If there's enough money to be had, I would like to get in on it. I know you are required to maintain the official line in this forum, so you can private message me the details of payment.

And how many Covid boosters did you get JC? Hmm.

Seeing as how your powers of prediction are so amazing, JC, where are we at in two years with this war? And by the way, is this the last of the money we need to give Ukraine? What will get for it and how much more will they need?

[Reiner Otto]

Here is a neutral (Swiss) explanation regarding the unacceptable Russian conditions for peace during beginning of war.

https://www.nzz.ch/international/wie...den-ld.1827138

To argue against your (unverified) Russian point of view, peace had been possible already for 2 years.

[Questner]

Well, saying 'Hello' to the current commander-in-chief of the AFU's adopted son residing in Australia.

'Nigel Casey was warned that any UK military facilities and equipment on Ukrainian territory and beyond could be hit as a response to Ukrainian strikes on Russian territory with British weapons. '.

https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1948389/

And.

https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1948486/

Guess what, tactical munitions are not part of the doctrine on the use of nuclear weapons.

[John Clayton]

You have no argument. Walk on home, boy.

I'm simply curious about how you are compensated. If there's enough money to be had, I would like to get in on it. I know you are required to maintain the official line in this forum, so you can private message me the details of payment.

[Xpartan]

Putin Propagandist Panics Over Ukraine Receiving Long-Range US Missiles

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-propa...ssiles-1894422

Panic is about right. All Russian assets are on the highest alert now, from professional ex-Olgino trolls to paid propagandists and useful idiots in the West. You can gauge the level of their desperation by the fact that they're willing to pay for trolling a mongering forum once again, LOL.

By the way, for those who're really interested in specifics of Russia's information wars, here is an excellent new paper. Highly recommended!

A multilingual analysis of pro Russian misinformation on Twitter during the Russian invasion of Ukraine

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-60653-y

No doubt, we're going to see more cool poker faces and prophecies of Ukraine's demise as the Evil Empire is racing toward the cliffs.

[Reiner Otto]

1. To force neutrality from Ukraine and it never joining NATO, which is an existential threat for Russia. Almost worked, the Ukrainians were ready to accept neutrality and say no to NATO in Istanbul 2022 until the collective west (Boris Johnson sabotaged it).

What a joke.

There were talks, yes, and unacceptable demands from Russian side: I. E. Only 85.000 Ukrainian soldiers to be kept (De-militarization). To make it easier for Putler, to invade later on.

Not to forget, that Putler already broke the non-agression agreement against UA, from Budapest 1994.

Unfortunately, at that time UA trusted Russia, and gave up their nuclear weapons, last not least because of this non-agression agreement.

The talks of Istanbul also mentioned security guarantees, from Western Countries, and Russia. How to fulfill? Western countries do not and did not want to take direct action against Russia in case of aggression.

[Blood Red]

A russian disniformation troll. What I would like to know is how much this guy is paid? How is he paid? Does he work in some building with more of his kind? Does he enjoy his work?

You have no argument. Walk on home, boy.

[Blood Red]

Name one entity NATO has attacked without provocation since the history of its existence.

Ummm. Libya?

Why is every former eastern bloc country now a part of NATO except for Belarus? The existential argument is complete nonsense.

This is all because one tiny man with a very large ego can't appetite the fact that his way of rule (note I did not use the word governance) has been rejected by the entirety of the free world. What exactly are his justifications for attacking Georgia?

Ukraine and Georgia joining NATO were Russian red lines, this was clearly stated at Bucharest in 2008 by Putin.

but you will lose the war of attrition. People have never accepted subjugation throughout history and it's not going to start now. It's not going to happen tomorrow or next month but Russia will lose.

You live in lala land. And I don't think you understand what a war of attrition means. Russia is conducting a war of attrition which is why it's winning. What matters in a war of attrition?

Artillery.

Manpower.

Russia has a huge advantage in both, this is why Ukraine is losing and will lose.

[John Clayton]

You do not seem to be aware of the reasons why Putin launched the SMO. Before I list them, ... may God punish them one day. God bless the Ukrainian people.

CEASEFIRE NOW!

A russian disniformation troll. What I would like to know is how much this guy is paid? How is he paid? Does he work in some building with more of his kind? Does he enjoy his work?

[FilthyBeaver]

Name one entity NATO has attacked without provocation since the history of its existence. Why is every former eastern bloc country now a part of NATO except for Belarus? The existential argument is complete nonsense.

This is all because one tiny man with a very large ego can't appetite the fact that his way of rule (note I did not use the word governance) has been rejected by the entirety of the free world. What exactly are his justifications for attacking Georgia?

We're not going to change each other's minds so I'll end with this. If you come to my house and try to take it without giving me compensation that I alone agree to, one of us is going to die. If you already have a house hundreds or thousands of miles away, filled with kids, wife, girlfriend, whatever, you don't personally want my house and want to go home ASAP. You can't win, you don't want to win, you don't care. There will be plenty of give and take, but you will lose the war of attrition. People have never accepted subjugation throughout history and it's not going to start now. It's not going to happen tomorrow or next month but Russia will lose.

You do not seem to be aware of the reasons why Putin launched the SMO. Before I list them, I just want to state that I really do not have a horse in this race. I'm neither Russian or Ukrainian. I am commenting purely from a neutral perspective, after getting fully aware of the facts because the western mainstream media is pure evil that just lies.

The reasons for launching the SMO were:

1. To force neutrality from Ukraine and it never joining NATO, which is an existential threat for Russia. Almost worked, the Ukrainians were ready to accept neutrality and say no to NATO in Istanbul 2022 until the collective west (Boris Johnson sabotaged it).

2. Denazification.

3. Demilitrization.

4. Guarantees for the safety and autonomy to the Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine, and in particular in the Donbas.

So the above are the main reasons for the SMO. I hope you see how this scenario is different from Afghanistan in 1979, which was indeed a mistake and the Russians had no business being there and they paid a price with their defeat, just like the Americans did almost 22 years later.

If his army is a paper tiger, then why did the NATO backed and armed Ukrainian army fail miserably in the counter offensive in 2023? They only took 1 village, think about it, and lost tens of thousands of NATO trained men and billions of dollars of equipment.

[Blood Red]

Ukraine should have taken the deal in 2022.

They were about to until that awful Boris Johnson flew to Kiev, told Zelensky to say no to any deal and that NATO and the west will back Ukraine to the very end. And fast forward to today.

May these warmongers in the collective west rot in eternal hell for taking Ukraine down the primrose path just to feed their greed (military industrial complex) and to make Russia bleed. Sure, Russia is hurting but Ukraine will cease to exist and has had entire generations wiped out and is wrecked.