Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Xpartan]

Up to 82% of the wounded and sick military defense forces return to duty after treatment. According to the president of the National Academy of Medical Sciences, the mortality rate at the stage of evacuation from the battlefield has decreased to 1. 35%. The new Military Medical Doctrine of Ukraine follows the Israeli practice where all civilian hospitals become military hospitals at the same time.

https://global.espreso.tv/up-to-82-o...s-and-diseases

Severely wounded Russians, on the other hand, are as good as dead. If they can't get back on their own, the help will never come. We-don't-leave-our-own-behind, my ass.

[Jmsuttr]

To make fun of guys like you who swallow the official narrative whole. You are as real on Ukraine as you were on Covid.

Anyone who uncritically swallows either the pro-Russia or the pro-Ukraine narrative is a gullible idiot. The only things that matter are actual facts on the ground. Using that as a metric, here are some relevant observations:

1. Russia currently controls much less territory than they did in the immediate aftermath of their invasion.

2. Russia appears to be having difficulty replacing modern equipment used or destroyed in battle. The evidence for this is their use of refurbished older tank models and the dramatic decrease in their missile usage.

3. Russia currently has the explicit or implicit support, in the material sense, of China, Iran, and North Korea. Ukraine currently has the explicit or implicit support of the US, most of Europe, and other significant countries like Japan, Australia, Canada, etc.

I could go on, but the above items make my point. Narratives are fueled in many ways (personal likes, dislikes, other emotional considerations, etc.), but actual facts are stubborn things. People who cling to their preferred narrative are often the same ones who believe they can predict outcomes. The stubborn facts, however, have confounded many such pseudo-experts. I fully expect that trend to continue.

P.S. One's past position on COVID, or any other issue, is completely irrelevant to the Ukraine discussion. A classic red herring fallacy, if ever there was one.

[Elvis 2008]

Are you a Russian bot? Really, why do you exist?

To make fun of guys like you who swallow the official narrative whole. You are as real on Ukraine as you were on Covid.

[John Clayton]

https://youtu.be/Vc_3I1E3QYE

After 30 years of neglect and abuse of her own body and soul the mortally ill patient is on an operation table.

Are you a Russian bot? Really, why do you exist?

[Jmsuttr]

https://youtu.be/Vc_3I1E3QYE

After 30 years of neglect and abuse of her own body and soul the mortally ill patient is on an operation table.

And, when it dies, there will be no mourning and no memorial service. The civilized world will stand aside and watch as dogs fight over pieces of the putrid corpse.

[Jmsuttr]

M.

You guys are dreaming that there will be a Spring Offensive from Ukraine, they are finished.

I do believe that parts of the reports are true, but this guy was probably set-up by the CIA. Interesting how the media is suddenly talking about corruption in Ukraine government. Something is definitely up. The Ukraine military has done an amazing job and totally over achieved, but they are done, time negotiations, that should have happened, 13 months ago.

Speculations are a dime a dozen, so forgive me if I toss your contribution on the pile with the rest of them.

As for a Spring counteroffensive, I would argue that launching one is a military, social, and political imperative for Ukraine. Russia doesn't really have any internal or external audiences they need to satisfy. Even if the ultra-nationalists aren't satisfied, there's not much they can do about it.

Ukraine, in stark contrast, has both internal and external audiences who have expectations that need to be managed or met. The Ukrainian people certainly expect their leaders to produce something, or to at least make the effort. They're understanding of the fact that resources are limited, but it's doubtful they'd be understanding of inaction. I have no particular allegiance to Zelensky and, if calls come for him to step down and be replaced by the Defense Minister, Head of the Armed Forces, or someone else, I don't think that would cause insurmountable problems.

On the external front, Europe and the US are less likely to continue robust support if things devolve into a stalemate. Right now it's rasputitsa season, which makes large-scale offensive campaigns impractical. I've seen various estimates that weather and road conditions will be favorable starting around mid-May. Only Ukraine knows their own timetable, but I'd be highly surprised if something significant doesn't happen by June.

Mind you, I'm not predicting how things will turn out on the battlefield. I'm simply noting that the pressure is on Ukraine to take some initiative. Whether it succeeds or not depends on a set of variables about which no reasonable observer or analyst would pretend to have full knowledge.

Those who think they have a crystal ball should at least be honest enough to admit that so many past 'expert predictions' have been way off the mark. Unfortunately, intellectual integrity and humility are in desperately short supply nowadays.

[Questner]

https://youtu.be/Vc_3I1E3QYE

After 30 years of neglect and abuse of her own body and soul the mortally ill patient is on an operation table.

[DramaFree11]

Does anyone truly know how much of the info is accurate? I doubt it and, if I was the US and Ukraine, it might be a highly useful intel op to orchestrate a release that could serve either as misinformation or as a distraction from Ukraine's coming counteroffensive.

I've seen various reports and analyses about the situation and none of them have given me any sense that there will be any effect on actual battlefield realities.

Ukraine has whatever resources it has, and Russia has whatever resources they have, and facts on the ground will determine the outcome. I certainly understand that copium is a strong motivation for the pro-Russia crowd to grasp at any straws they can. Whatever the outcome of the intel disclosures (real or planted) I doubt they'll have much, if any, practical impacts. Nice try though!

You know, if it is a psyop, then those who orchestrated it can be encouraged by how quickly and completely you bought into it. And the questions they must be asking themselves in the Kremlin is what's real, what's fake, and does any of it make a damn bit of difference on the battlefield?

P.S. Better double-check your "facts" about the kill ratio. That's already been debunked as having been photoshopped by pro-Russia bloggers. But hey, copium is one hell of a strong drug, right?

M.

You guys are dreaming that there will be a Spring Offensive from Ukraine, they are finished.

I do believe that parts of the reports are true, but this guy was probably set-up by the CIA. Interesting how the media is suddenly talking about corruption in Ukraine government. Something is definitely up. The Ukraine military has done an amazing job and totally over achieved, but they are done, time negotiations, that should have happened, 13 months ago.

[Xpartan]

A 21 year old National guard soldier was arrested yesterday for reveling sensitive military secret's. All over every news channel last night even the liberal idiots didn't know what to say. Those of us living in reality knew this all along. The Joint Chiefs and our president were all lying, big time. Russia is losing 1 soldier to Ukraine 6, a five year old knows that won't work. Many other lies were reveled about weapons and money but I thought the kill ratio to be biggest lie. Millie and Austin should both be court-martial for lying to the American people. Many other spooky things were in the document release but Ukraine info is the topic here. They had no chance and our military knew this, the bullshit is over. It will interesting to see how they spin it now.

In case you REALLY don't know, that particular page was fabricated by Russia. It's been proven by comparing the originally "leaked" page to the Russia's photoshopped image.

Take casualty figures. It comes as little surprise to learn that the US estimates that between 189,500 and 223,000 Russian soldiers have been killed or wounded.

The equivalent figure for Ukraine's losses - between 124,500 and 131,000 - is also in line with ballpark figures briefed to journalists in recent weeks.

In both cases, the Pentagon says it has "low confidence" in the figures, due to gaps in information, operational security and deliberate attempts, probably by both sides, to mislead.

Tellingly, this is the one place where attempts have been made to alter the documents to make it look as if Ukraine is experiencing the worst casualties.

A version which appeared on a pro-Russian Telegram site took the number of Ukrainians "killed in action" ("16k-17.5k") and put those on the Russian ledger, while flipping the numbers on the Ukrainian side so they read "61k - 71.5k".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65225985

Which brings me to yet another point: not only Russian trolls are typically dumb, but they're also lazy to the point of disbelief.

[Jmsuttr]

A 21 year old National guard soldier was arrested yesterday for reveling sensitive military secret's. All over every news channel last night even the liberal idiots didn't know what to say. Those of us living in reality knew this all along. The Joint Chiefs and our president were all lying, big time. Russia is losing 1 soldier to Ukraine 6, a five year old knows that won't work. Many other lies were reveled about weapons and money but I thought the kill ratio to be biggest lie. Millie and Austin should both be court-martial for lying to the American people. Many other spooky things were in the document release but Ukraine info is the topic here. They had no chance and our military knew this, the bullshit is over. It will interesting to see how they spin it now.

Does anyone truly know how much of the info is accurate? I doubt it and, if I was the US and Ukraine, it might be a highly useful intel op to orchestrate a release that could serve either as misinformation or as a distraction from Ukraine's coming counteroffensive.

I've seen various reports and analyses about the situation and none of them have given me any sense that there will be any effect on actual battlefield realities.

Ukraine has whatever resources it has, and Russia has whatever resources they have, and facts on the ground will determine the outcome. I certainly understand that copium is a strong motivation for the pro-Russia crowd to grasp at any straws they can. Whatever the outcome of the intel disclosures (real or planted) I doubt they'll have much, if any, practical impacts. Nice try though!

You know, if it is a psyop, then those who orchestrated it can be encouraged by how quickly and completely you bought into it. And the questions they must be asking themselves in the Kremlin is what's real, what's fake, and does any of it make a damn bit of difference on the battlefield?

P.S. Better double-check your "facts" about the kill ratio. That's already been debunked as having been photoshopped by pro-Russia bloggers. But hey, copium is one hell of a strong drug, right?

[Jmsuttr]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_War

The more it becomes clear that there's little hope for your beloved Russian invaders, and Russia as a whole, the more you're reduced to finding inanely stupid things to post.

Pretty desperate stuff, eh? Imagine how they must feel in the Kremlin! I guess it serves as a distraction from that loud flushing sound.

[VinDici]

...Orc sounds...

Since you like Wikipedia, take a refresher course on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crime

[Locamotive]

And, as I specifically pointed out, that kind of flawed reasoning isn't limited to any one viewpoint.

In stark contrast, the correct approach is to use observable facts to inform your own opinions. BTW, your use of a facile (flawed) analogy is another quintessential example of sloppy thinking. In your mind the Russian military = the Dallas Cowboys and Ukraine's forces = a High School team. You slap a "reality" label on this when it's nothing more that a construct that lives in your own brain. And, because you're locked into this view, you conveniently ignore or downplay any facts that contradict it. Consider, for example, that your "Dallas Cowboys" have been pushed steadily backward for over a year. Wow, how is it that the high school team is consistently winning at the line of scrimmage? And how many fumbles and other critical mistakes has the "pro" team made?

While I doubt you'll read it, here's an interesting look at some other inconvenient facts. Ukraine was never weaker or more vulnerable than immediately after the invasion. And yet they were able to repel Russian forces from the outskirts of Kyiv. Here's one account of how that happened, which I'm happy to post for any forum member who might be interested:

A 21 year old National guard soldier was arrested yesterday for reveling sensitive military secret's. All over every news channel last night even the liberal idiots didn't know what to say. Those of us living in reality knew this all along. The Joint Chiefs and our president were all lying, big time. Russia is losing 1 soldier to Ukraine 6, a five year old knows that won't work. Many other lies were reveled about weapons and money but I thought the kill ratio to be biggest lie. Millie and Austin should both be court-martial for lying to the American people. Many other spooky things were in the document release but Ukraine info is the topic here. They had no chance and our military knew this, the bullshit is over. It will interesting to see how they spin it now.

[Questner]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_War

[Jmsuttr]

Quote 'What also is unknown is that Zelensky has been buying the fuel from Russia, the country with which it, and Washington, are at war, and the Ukrainian president and many in his entourage have been skimming untold millions from the American dollars earmarked for diesel fuel payments' -.

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/...with-the-enemy

'An Eagle for the city of Lvov'.

There are at least two points that serve as evidence of his non-credibility.

First, his alleged "scoop" about the Nordstream bombing was posted on his personal substack. The fact that he avoided publishing on ANY established site, even those of the pro-Russia persuasion, demonstrates his reluctance (or inability) to share any information about his "source" or any other details that a responsible publisher might want to double-check. Personal substack + anonymous source = zero credibility.

Second, Hersh tries to create pseudo-credibility by leveraging his reputation from past stories he's reported. But that's problematic because plenty of that reporting has been thoroughly debunked.

https://www.vox.com/2015/5/11/858447...sama-bin-laden

Hersh reached the pinnacle of his career during the Vietnam War years. Subsequently he's become a caricature of his former self. It's a bit like a formerly A-List movie star being reduced to a cameo role on Love Boat. Rather a sad spectacle.

But hey, since birds of a (pathetic) feather flock together, it's no surprise he's your go-to guy!