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06-26-23 21:44 #4693
Posts: 2729Refresh Me
Originally Posted by GoingDumb [View Original Post]
Regarding the $$ discussion it depends where you are going. I hope I never said don't bring it up. I always do. But it's not presented as sex for money. My patter is basically after some chat and moving to WhatsApp:
"I see our date going something like this. Have a nice dinner. Prob drink a bit too much. Laugh till it hurts. And if we vibe like I think we will, spend some private time together. Allowance of course. On the off chance we don't vibe we can part after dinner no harm no foul. How's that match what you are looking for? ".
She will usually say sure if you get to this point. Then you can discuss price. You don't need to be any more explicit than what is said above. You would just say "Did you have something in mind for gift/ allowance?" And she will either say or ask you to go first. If you go first say "what I have done in the past is 400. I hope that works for you because I think we will really have a great time. " Notice no $ sign. Outside US you can be more explicit.
Hope this helps.
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06-26-23 19:39 #4692
Posts: 125I've been messaging girls on sa ahead of a trip. I have a few leads but sa is starting to feel like work when I know there are good options where I'm going. And I don't have to worry about my stuff in the hotel room. I had decent conversations with two different girls but both fizzled out when financial details came up. I know steve suggests not bringing it up directly but I feel like I wasted my time. The first one expected 3500 eur and said her only other arrangement had a 20 k monthly allowance.
The second gave me the "I'm not an escort and just because we're meeting I won't have sex but we can see how chemistry is" but asked for an allowance. I was tempted to offer her 100 eur even though I've never paid for meets before. I countered and said we could meet for a drink first and a date later in the week if the chemistry was good but she declined saying I was expecting sex. I told her yes, for an allowance that was my expectation but I was happy to meet for drinks without expectations. I asked her about previous arrangements and she expects allowance for the meet and then more if there's intimacy. Probably dodged one here.
I know I probably messed the second one up but what could I have done differently? Offered the 100 eur? The chemistry on text seemed good so I mightve had a shot but she could equally have been a rinser.
The two good experiences I've had on seeking abroad have been with girls who were basically using seeking for sw. One told me straight up when we met and the second made it clear in her messages. She still had a regular job/intern but loved sex.
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06-26-23 08:49 #4691
Posts: 3258Originally Posted by Gfefan [View Original Post]
Covid policies were run by the private company that is the CDC. We did not vote on Covid policies or even have our representatives vote on that. The only bipartisan thing being done now is spending money on wars. How much money do we need to spend on defense really? I don't know what you put the odds at of nuclear war with Russia, but one thing I was thinking about when I was in Colombia was, wouldn't it be nice not to have nuclear missiles aimed at the country you live in?
I saw this graph and today and it blew me away. https://mishtalk.com/economics/the-g...-in-the-1980s/.
I shake my head because I did feel wealthier and more optimistic in the mid 1980's than now.
My grandparents bought a lot on a lake in Michigan in the 1950's for $300. My parents sold it for $500,000 a few years ago. We used to swim, fish, build rafts, and water ski on that lake. It was open to everyone. Now it seems like it is just the elites. My cousins own a business up there and they have to import workers from Eastern Europe and the Caribbean to work for them. Doesn't it cost too much for people to have kids now? What is up with that?
I have made fun of the food in Colombia forever to the great offense of my gal but when we went up North of Bogota into the mountains, I had to apologize and eat crow. Beautiful country. You go like 30 MPH most of the time, behind slow moving trucks, occasionally you get a cow, dog, or chicken in the middle of the road. We stopped and got an arepa at a local joint not the typical corporate crap like you see in the USA. Simple. Delicious. Fresh squeezed OJ that was amazing. Do you know when you can just tell if you are eating good and fresh versus filled with preservatives and other crap?
So I meet my gal's family, and they are wonderful people. Family grows its own vegetables on a garden on their farm. Cows, horses, sheep, and goats have abundant fresh grass to eat. They also have a few places in the small town they rent out and one they live in. Housing is very affordable, and yes, I was told you can leave your front door unlocked.
I loaded in my gal, her daughter, and two of their cousins into our mini SUV and headed out for a day excursion. Sure, the gals have their phones and tik tok and IG and the like, but they are drawing, playing like I did when I was a kid, working real jobs, smart as whips, and happier and more talented than any other young Americans I have met.
So we go to a dinosaur museum, and it is really nice. Then we head to a chocolate museum. The town square is big, gorgeous, and the sun is setting over the mountains, a stunning view. The museum is a gem of elegance in a city that is quaint, and the chocolate, OMG the chocolate, I do not know if I have had better.
We then have dinner, and I saw a place with rotisserie chicken. Again, it is nothing fancy. I pay like $10 for five people to eat. It is simple. It is just chicken, arepas, and potatoes, but it was so fucking good and again your body is thanking you for eating it.
I look at the people and the women. Obesity is there but it is a fraction of what it is in the USA. The women have one kind of look to them but they were some amazing looking women in these country towns, and everyone was nice. I wonder to myself why the people are so thin and happy. Is it really because the people in the USA are so undisciplined or is it just because we have so much unhealthy and addictive shit put in our food? How happy can you be if you are morbidly overweight or obese?
When I was in Colombia, for sure there were the hooker types out for a buck but in no other country did I meet women who were really interested in me and not money. I even had one woman try to give me the money we agreed on back to me. Why were so many people in this country so much less materialistic than richer ones? And yeah, DF, I get Medellin is as materialistic as anyone in the world, but that is Medellin.
Yeah, the roads sucked. The internet sucked. The latest and greatest tech gizmos were not around, but does that really matter?
I agree that the USA is the best place to make a living, so I am not going to check out of the USA just yet, but something is fucked up when a nation as poor as Colombia seems to have people way more happy and healthy than we do.
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06-25-23 21:41 #4690
Posts: 533Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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06-25-23 20:29 #4689
Posts: 2729Just an Opinion
Originally Posted by Gfefan [View Original Post]
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06-24-23 03:08 #4688
Posts: 241Agree
I am definitely laughing it off. One last chance to SA in US.
These bitches are not worth synthesizing stress hormones.
I am visiting Germany, Spain, Belgium in July. Back to my old SBs. They make me release dopamine.
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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06-24-23 03:06 #4687
Posts: 241Why do you say that?
Not intending to make this beautiful forum political. So, looking for a one line high level answer, Steve.
Why do you say leave US? Political climate or economical climate or something else?
I definitely am not liking US after living in Europe. Want to move back not just because SA sucks (seriously. That is a minor part of larger life) but because overall it seems "blah". Money is great but that's about it.
So, curious why you said what you said.
Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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06-23-23 21:17 #4686
Posts: 6439Welcome!
Originally Posted by Gfefan [View Original Post]
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06-23-23 21:05 #4685
Posts: 2729So Truest
Originally Posted by Gfefan [View Original Post]
Ouch on the scam 2 hrs before. I've hit this twice in maybe 50 dates and it was years ago. But damn it's the worst because you are all primed and ready and May have even driven to the date. Total biatches in this one. Boo.
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06-23-23 18:57 #4684
Posts: 241Ridiculous
Will be in SFO soon. Started SA reluctantly because I know US socks.
1. Setup time for meet and greet. Sends pics, chats. Wr agree on time and bar.
Two hours before. Hey, I need to find caretakers for my grampys. Could you send $? Here is my cashapp. I say anything possible but we first meet. No $ before meet. She goes "you think I will come for free? My time is valuable".
I didn't tell her my time is valuable too. But simply blocked her.
2. Claims to be a student. That too a PhD. I ask what field etc. She claims a field on which I did Masters. I poke further. Loses steam and goes "I was scared and deenrolled".
3. 2nd message goes "I need $800 for meet and greet. I don't waste time".
This is such a large amount of weeds.
Talking to my employer about transferring back to Europe in 2024. Shithole.
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06-22-23 13:37 #4683
Posts: 1316Originally Posted by AmericanPi [View Original Post]
And you will go crazy with the SA women.
Or Istanbul in Turkey.
I know it's not EE but you will get everything on SA.
Peace.
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06-22-23 04:27 #4682
Posts: 2729Madrid Pricing.
Originally Posted by Chola [View Original Post]
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06-22-23 00:53 #4681
Posts: 77London field report-Vienna in progress
Just left London today and I'm currently in Vienna.
Started the sorting process about 3 weeks prior to trip. Basically, to sort out all the pros. A lot of pros, so if was going that rout prefer Diva, Babylon etc.
Narrowed the list down to 5. Did VC / FaceTime etc with them to check vibe and seriousness. 4 out of the 5 were in constant contact, I. E. Multiple texts / pics during the day.
3 of the 4 seemed really excited about meeting. So was going through the mental brain damage of narrowing it down to 1-2 because my trip got shortened. Would have only an evening, next morning / early afternoon before leaving.
My type: 8. 5+.
Blonde / Brunette.
5'3".
Super fit.
White / European.
Under 30.
The day before my trip one of them asked what time the next day I was leaving so she can plan her work schedule. Which I knew she was coming to pound town and staying over. She was lives in Manchester and works as an aesthetician.
Then she asked if I would pay for her train ticket. Started to think she was trying to pull a low key scam, but told her to send me the link. She chose the economy ticket and it was only 120 £ round trip, so even if she flaked no big loss.
I having been staying at the Mandrake lately in London and it's a great 5* boutique hotel near Mayfair etc. Has a great bar / lounge, the vibe is very nightclub like, rooms are great. Turns into a club lounge in evenings. Has only 35 rooms. But has large lounge right in the middle of the hotel. A little pricey about 700 £ a night for a king room with terrace etc but the vibe is worth it. They have vibrators, gels, silk ropes, blindfolds etc in your room if you want them (but have to pay). The key holder for your room is one of those whip things.
Paula shows up to the bar where I was waiting for her in casual attire but looking crazy attire. First thing she said was don't worry my heels and dress are in my bag. She has 2 drinks, I'm deep into Michters bottle. We go up she goes into the bathroom, does her makeup, comes out in an incredible dress and we head out.
Dinner: Koyn-Mayfair, a favorite sushi / Japanese restaurant of mine. Great dinner, drinks, we are vibing. She's polish, I speak fluent polish so she is now in an even better happier place.
Head back to hotel. Bar closed. MGR says you can drink whatever you want as long as it comes out of a bottle, he doesn't make cocktails LOL.
Have a few more drinks head up. From elevator to room action starts. One in room she gives whatever I want except anal, asks me not cip because she is not on bc. I give her oral first she has a screaming orgasm. Then gives me an incredible BBBJ. Then I pound her out in every position, we take water breaks and I bust in her mouth.
Wash up. Go to bed. Wake up. Go down for breakfast. Come back. Fuck again. Shower, call her an Uber. Slip 300 £ in her bag, she has never asked for any money and she goes to the train and I head to airport.
Total damage:
120 £ train.
Dinner:400 £.
Bar:80 £.
Uber:15 £.
Voluntary donation:300 £.
I don't count dinner and drinks as cost of fun because I would go to such places anyway.
Great experience. She has texted me all day.
Vienna right now is looking like a bust on SA. Flakey.
Turned my tinder Profile on. Let's see.
Otherwise, plenty of pros.
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06-21-23 20:46 #4680
Posts: 36Thanks for sharing. Could you please post the experience in Madrid? Especially prices paid. Thanks!
Originally Posted by BobisTheGuy [View Original Post]
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06-20-23 22:58 #4679
Posts: 2805Originally Posted by BobisTheGuy [View Original Post]
1. Asian dudes are not an issue, yes, they may pay more, but for the most part the girls do not like to date Asia. (Sorry Asia Guys, no disrespect) Also, there are lot's of Asian chicks in CDMX, they usually date other Asians.
2. There is very little competition in CDMX and lots of eligible girls. I had no issue getting girls from $175-250 (6. 5-8).
3. High end girls are difficult to find in any location now, unless you have local knowledge, high budget and some game.
As I said in my previous posts and today, CDMX is amazing if you have time, some game and a decent budget.