Seeking Arrangement- SA- in India

[Christmas Tre]

This is a miracle, bro.

You yourself say you are short, old, fat and not generous.

It's amazing that 18 year olds & Aishwarya Rai doppelgangers are falling over themselves to give you earth shattering celestial experiences for INR 6000.

Strangely, all your 500+ posts are the same gyaan not to pay for meet & greets or complaints about allowances and quality.

Problem is, unless you share solid evidence, most readers will pity your delusions and have a hearty laugh at your expense.

No offence, my friend.

I've actually seen some of Phil's girls and they are smoking hot. Not sure what solid evidence you are asking for. Don't troll.

[DecloTofen]

How do you guys do it? Is wading through dozens of fake profiles / pimps / scams to find a single gem so rewarding?

There are hardly ten verified profiles on SA in Delhi and none of them are to my liking. I've started talking to some of the unverified ones and most seem to be either out for a quick scam or pimps. I might change my tone if I find the perfect SB but for now, I don't think SA is worth it.

Also any luck with your find?

[Phil50]

No, it's not the rule, simply because women of that caliber (smart + pleasant + sophisticated + sexy + attractive) themselves are rare and therefore exceptional and prized (in turn, by a certain caliber of men, and not by all).

I think your description of the girls who command a high price, as well as the men who pay that is accurate. It misses an important point though.

A smart sophisticated woman who is not a WG, is not into this only for the money, but other benefits that an older successful men can provide. For many of us, getting a qualified person an internship, or job is a matter of making a call. I have done things like writing papers with SB as co-author, helping with college admission abroad, or legal advice with a divorce or getting out of an employment contract. I complete college assignments for my current girl. These things are valued more than money, by the girls you describe, but not by a WG.
Nor would we do this if we do not intend to have a long term relationship.

I am that 50+ socially awkward guy you describe. However, at work there have been plenty of girls who would be quite happy to have a meal date with me, with no expectation of a benefit, because interacting with the company CEO is something they value. Several will do a lot more. Its a separate matter that I wouldn't date anyone I work with, but there is no shortage of smart, attractive, career minded women, who would date non sexually, with a little 'compensation for their time' as a sweetener. Those who do not want to separate their work and personal lives and have the money, can have enough choice at their workplace, without needing SA. If the money you offer gets you sex, why would you not go for it?
There are instances where a man has spent a lot on the first platonic date, but has done so with the expectation of sex later.

I've heard several of my SA partners tell me about the man who for e.g. slipped them 50 k just to have a chat, or 15 k just to take them for a drive after college. They later admitted it was BS, but they repeat that myth to themselves and others, to convince themselves that they are not working girls. If it is obvious they are sleeping for money, they will say its either because of a temporary financial emergency, or they just had this one (very generous) SD in the past. It appeals to our sense of wanting to be white knight, or compete with a fictional former SD to provide benefits.

[FunForSandy]

This is a miracle, bro.

You yourself say you are short, old, fat and not generous.

It's amazing that 18 year olds & Aishwarya Rai doppelgangers are falling over themselves to give you earth shattering celestial experiences for INR 6000.

Strangely, all your 500+ posts are the same gyaan not to pay for meet & greets or complaints about allowances and quality.

Problem is, unless you share solid evidence, most readers will pity your delusions and have a hearty laugh at your expense.

No offence, my friend.

Hey buddy,

That was mean.

We all share information here which is the purpose of this forum. Does any of us show evidence? If you think someone is not providing correct information, please just ignore it.

Having said that I have been in touch with Phil for a little while now and have benefitted from his vast knowledge and info.

Cheers.

[Akhi0007]

Hi friends.

Anyone met this one Izza John from SA Bangalore?

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...e-bcd587fbbd66

Thanks..

Avoid, she wasted my time. The same profile keeps changing the cities, she was in Kochi, later Bangalore. One day she said ready to meet, after few days she said she is looking for a life partner. It continued for a month without any conclusion, I fed up and blocked.

[Phil50]

He mentioned platonic dates for 6 k which seems quite a lot to me, actual meet with sec price will be 20 k +.

That is correct. Also, the platonic date will usually be at a restaurant, so my total cost will be over 10 k.

While I may pay 18 (6 * 3) for my long term relationships, for intimacy, with a meal & drinks before an after it, it would typically cost be 25 k.

As I have said in several posts, there are several reasons I do platonic and it works well when it meets my partner's requirements.

[Phil50]

This is a miracle, bro.

You yourself say you are short, old, fat and not generous.

It's amazing that 18 year olds & Aishwarya Rai doppelgangers are falling over themselves to give you earth shattering celestial experiences for INR 6000.

Strangely, all your 500+ posts are the same gyaan not to pay for meet & greets or complaints about allowances and quality.

Problem is, unless you share solid evidence, most readers will pity your delusions and have a hearty laugh at your expense.

No offence, my friend.

No offense. Perhaps you misunderstand. I have platonic dates for Rs 6000. It attracts 2 types:

Women who do not intend to have sex and do gain a lot, apart from money, by dating me. I'm talking fine dining, internships etc. Some girls place a lot of value on that.
Those women might not sleep with me for all the money in the world.

The second type of person is the one with whom I do have a long term relationship and recognise that not every date is about intimacy. If in the course of a long relationship, my girl gains several lacs, goes on some great holidays, or gets a good job or admission abroad, they are quite happy to agree to a deal where a platonic meet does not have the same compensation as an intimate one, 1:3 ratio.

I have said such types are increasingly difficult to find on SA. I do not go for working girls, so you won't find my FRs on them.
I have been on SA for 10 years and met 100+ women. I have learnt some things over time, which I'm happy to share, for what it is worth.
I've no intention of giving gyan, or debunking what someone else has in good faith, reported what he has been told. We are here to share info, the more the better.

I am fine doing what I'm doing. You may term it a celestial experience, others may say I am wasting my money. It is a point of view. Feel free to share yours.

If you feel that not paying for a 'meet & greet', or my understanding of allowances is delusional, we would gain from your perspective of what works for you, or weather a complaint about anyone was incorrect.

[DirtyPervert]

This is a miracle, bro.

You yourself say you are short, old, fat and not generous.

It's amazing that 18 year olds & Aishwarya Rai doppelgangers are falling over themselves to give you earth shattering celestial experiences for INR 6000.

Strangely, all your 500+ posts are the same gyaan not to pay for meet & greets or complaints about allowances and quality.

Problem is, unless you share solid evidence, most readers will pity your delusions and have a hearty laugh at your expense.

No offence, my friend.

He mentioned platonic dates for 6 k which seems quite a lot to me, actual meet with sec price will be 20 k +.

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[Phil50]

She isn't particularly lucky. That is the allowance women of a certain caliber command and receive across Indian cities as a matter of routine.

Many ultra affluent men (very few of whom have the time for a forum such as this) place incalculable value on a woman being genuinely sophisticated, well educated and with excellent conversational (English language) skills.

Unwinding at leisure with a woman like that, and not merely boinking a dolled up 2-shots imbecilic shrew half their own age, is to them the biggest flex (and one they will generously spring for, no questions asked).

Comes down to what a man values, and what he can realistically afford.

We may not like it one bit, but despite our braggadocio and bitter rants on forums such as this one, it is very much a seller's market.

I would agree with FunforSandy. These cases are an exception.

The women you describe are exactly the kind I have platonic dates with. For 6 k.

One of them, who I met when she turned 18, could communicate better than I did. Wrote poetry and newspaper columns in 2 languages. She runs a consulting firm abroad while still in her 20's and can interact with cabinet ministers, or CEOs.
Another had a net worth higher than mine and a knowledge of western cities, art, culture, fine dining etc way higher than mine.
Both were far better looking than the average person on SA who asks 20 k.
I'm single. If I want someone who can understand me like a spouse, I have a travel partner in her 40's (in better shape than SA girls half her age) who does not even expect compensation for a platonic date. It is these kind of finds that had made SA attractive, but like I've been saying, finding such gems is rare.

In case you're wondering, I'm over 50, shorter than average, out of shape and don't throw money around. Women don't sleep with me just because they like me, or I might be able to help them in some non monetary way. Some on this forum have scored with women who have said no to me.

My current girl in her 20's runs her own startup, looks like Aishwarya Rai and comes from a similar background as I do. She takes 6k if our date is platonic.

That said, I was curious if it was a buyer's or sellers market, so my SBs shared their inbox. I also had a female profile made and ran the numbers.
The ratio of women to men has been improving in favor of men in the last 3-4 years, after you ignore the fake and inactive profiles.
That's why rates have not increased much: From 15 to 20 k over a 8 year period, which is less than inflation.

Women I know on SA, who might tick all the boxes, have got no offer for non sexual meets (even if sex is implied at a later stage) with a compensation exceeding 8 k.
This is a sample of a few hundred men over a couple of years. Of course there are exceptions, but we can't base strategy on exceptions.

[Mallu Macha]

No, it's not the rule, simply because women of that caliber (smart + pleasant + sophisticated + sexy + attractive) themselves are rare and therefore exceptional and prized (in turn, by a certain caliber of men, and not by all).

These are the men who routinely splash out 20 odd triple zeroes merely for meet & greets over dinner or drinks and take things forward (or not) thereon.

The 1% upper echelon chicas (not just well made up, but also truly well read and well spoken), hold out for these upper echelon SDs, and are savvy enough to quickly recognise and block the remainder, without as much as a backward glance.

The rest of us tend to get the dregs, as enough reports here testify.

I would sincerely love to be proven wrong, but with verifiable evidence and an actual contact, and not wishful stories of gorgeous 20 year old vixens who shagged you for free, just because they found your "maturity", "wisdom" and "experience" irresistibly alluring, and are very conveniently "no longer on Seeking" or “don't want to meet anyone new”.

OK. I didn't realise that it's common, in my mind it was an exception and not a rule. I stand corrected. And yes I totally understand that it's a seller's market and hence I said we are the pitiable lot.

In my brief period with SA I came across two such women. Who are smart, very articulate, well read and well informed and who can hold a nuanced conversation on a variety of topics. Thankfully for me they didn't ask for such allowance.

Cheers.

[WaterBoy747]

This is definitely not made up.

My long term SB here in Bangalore has met and been wooed by this or perhaps another gent with a similar modus operandi. He's not in finance, but a 50 something tech VP in a sexless marriage with self esteem issues and zero confidence around women.

He routinely pays the lady 50 k per ST rendezvous for naked conversation (she's beautiful, bright and engaging) and poetry.

And here we are quibbling ad nauseam about "spoiling the market" with our 15's and 20's.

I don't understand. Don't these women want to get fucked and enjoy sex as well? I know most of them do it ONLY for the money but I have seen plenty of women enjoy themselves being pleasured.

[FunToosh6045]

So I met one lady through seeking few months back. She is 28 and we are not into any sugar relationship but just that we meet for sex and enjoy each others company at ppm. So she told me from begining that she is looking for a 40 plus unmarried or divorced sd and reason is simple. She does not want to be labelled as home wrecker or any past baggage. She is purely into this for raising some capital in 6 or 7 months and start a cafe. So she wants a relatively older guy. She eventually met one but then he ghosted her. So she called him and did all sort of crazy things like calling and texting from other simcard and other stuff and got response from a lady that guy is hospitalised and its been 2 months.

She told me that seeking is full of useless chaps. Half of the guys are fake and then there are lot of pimps who tell them to join them to get steady clients. A few more will plan a social meeting but on the day they will cancel saying weird reasons. Some times after reaching the place and waiting long time gets response like "I was just checking if you are real so next time lets meet". Some guys catfish girls with other dudes pic.

So when a potential true sb find a genuine contact they chase and try to make that certain. Because as phil said they can gain a lot if get into a genuine sugarlife I. E in lacs or mentorship, connections.

[FunForSandy]

She isn't particularly lucky. That is the allowance women of a certain caliber command and receive across Indian cities as a matter of routine.

Many ultra affluent men (very few of whom have the time for a forum such as this) place incalculable value on a woman being genuinely sophisticated, well educated and with excellent conversational (English language) skills.

Unwinding with a woman like that, and not merely boinking a dolled up 2-shots imbecile shrew half their own age, is to them the biggest flex (and one they will generously spring for, no questions asked).

Comes down to what a man values, and what he can realistically afford.

We may not like it one bit, but despite our braggadocio and bitter rants on forums such as this one, it is very much a seller's market.

OK. I didn't realise that it's common, in my mind it was an exception and not a rule. I stand corrected. And yes I totally understand that it's a seller's market and hence I said we are the pitiable lot.

In my brief period with SA I came across two such women. Who are smart, very articulate, well read and well informed and who can hold a nuanced conversation on a variety of topics. Thankfully for me they didn't ask for such allowance.

Cheers.

[Mallu Macha]

Wow your SB is lucky 😂. Such generous allowance for just conversing.

And you are right, we are the lot to be pitied at with our 15-20 k. 🫣.

She isn't particularly lucky. That is the allowance women of a certain caliber command and receive across Indian cities as a matter of routine.

Many ultra affluent men (very few of whom have the time for a forum such as this) place incalculable value on a woman being genuinely sophisticated, well educated and with excellent conversational (English language) skills.

Unwinding at leisure with a woman like that, and not merely boinking a dolled up 2-shots imbecilic shrew half their own age, is to them the biggest flex (and one they will generously spring for, no questions asked).

Comes down to what a man values, and what he can realistically afford.

We may not like it one bit, but despite our braggadocio and bitter rants on forums such as this one, it is very much a seller's market.