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  1. #4612
    Quote Originally Posted by BogotaVisitor  [View Original Post]
    Other site have consistency reviewed solitasparati as the agency who will send ladies in pictures and they alone have plenty of beautiful ladies though only 6 of them speak English.

    So you are saying bait and switch is something acceptable in Colombia and happens every time? If clients refuse be & S then it won't happen so often.

    When I call I will tell them exactly who I want. I tell them if she is not available then I go for the second choice and third and fourth and. Option until I reach the one who is available. I will be there two weeks and I have selected about 50 ladies which I plan to see less than half of them. If after giving them a long list and still they send me another lady this would be a deliberate attempt by them to deceive (and I also will tell them that after all these options if they send me another lady I won't pay anything in writing). They (the agency) will also receive bad reviews on all Colombia related review boards if in spite of all these they still carry out bait and switch.

    As why I have chosen Colombia even though I don't want sex or sexual activities (I do wish her companionship and a dance and hugs and kisses but I am not ready for pay for sex. Call me a moron if you wish) because I have met a few Colombian ladies in Montreal (one married colleague and the rest in Montreal strip bars) and they are all beautiful and friendly. I can only spend a little time with them while in strip bar. I really love Colombian girls and want their companionship for many hours.

    Yes I hope that I can find those who can carry out at least some broken conversation in English but your post is not encouraging I try to learn some Spanish then.

    I don't know any Colombian lady or ladies in Toronto so what would be the purpose of going to Toronto! Also I believe in North America it is illegal to invite strippers home for companionship (even if no sex or any sexual things happen it is likely still illegal but I am not sure) and for sure I am not going to break the law of the land. Out of question.
    Solitasparati probably fulfills 300 appointments every week. How many reviews have you seen? 5? 10? 50? I'm sure they, along with other agencies, try to satisfy their customer's requests. But they also know the customer will accept whoever shows up. It's not always an attempt to deceive the customer, it's just business.

    Are you under the impression that Colombian escort agencies are struggling? Desperate to please every customer? Bogota is a city of more than 10 million people. It is one of the top financial and business locations in South America. The escort agencies have plenty of customers.

    And how many of those customers are going to read your bad reviews? Do you think the Bogatanos who see the same escort every 2 weeks are going to drop her, because you flew 4000 miles to see someone else? The foreign businessmen who call for an escort each time they hit town are going to change because you complain about a woman who you didn't even let in your room?

    Maybe making threats to businesses is the way things are done in Montreal. I don't see that going over well in Bogota, but go right ahead and try. Don't pay any attention to any advice given to you. Ignore all the experiences of the people on the board. You clearly know all the answers.

    After you, in English, demand a Spanish speaker meet all your requirements or face your bad reviews and refusal to pay, I'm certain everything will work out just like you want.

    I almost want to schedule my stay in the same hotel, just for the entertainment value.

  2. #4611
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Good luck finding an agency that never does bait and switch. If you find them, ask if you can ride their unicorn.

    Also good luck finding an escort who speaks English well enough to carry on a long conversation. While they do exist, very few are going to be fluent in English, unless you stay in the 1 million Peso and up per hour range.

    First the bait and switch. Unless the escort agency is just one independent woman, bait and switch is going to happen. Every escort is not going to be available every time they are requested. Most people who are calling for an escort aren't going to wait 2 days for an appointment. So the person who does the bookings is going to accept your appointment and send someone. And you're going to end up paying them.

    Your plan to tell them you won't pay just means they will not send anyone. Why should they waste their time with you? Why deal with the hassle because the website picture is 2 years old and you don't believe it's the same girl? Believe it or not, they have other customers who are a lot easier to deal with.

    If they do send someone and you refuse to pay, even for the transportation, expect problems. Problem number 1, you just ended any chance of ever getting an escort from that agency (and often one person runs several different agencies). Problem number 2, you don't speak the language, you're a foreigner and you just refused to pay a debt you agreed to pay. If she makes a scene, guess whose side the Spanish speaking police officer is going to take? Guess what the hotel is going to think about a guest who disturbs other guests because he is hiring prostitutes and refusing to pay them?

    Why would you go to Colombia to hire escorts that you don't want to have sex with, when you don't speak the language? That makes less sense than going to a vegetarian restaurant, demanding they cook you a steak and then just stare at the food without eating it.

    Fluent English speakers are not common in Colombia. While many people speak some English, they aren't able to have a conversation. What you say you want, extended companionship without any sex, is going to require conversation. It requires conversation because the escort expects to show up, spend a few minutes talking and then have sex, followed by a little more talk, cleanup, get dressed, get paid and say chao. Most English speaking escorts know exactly enough English for greetings, a few compliments, discussing prices and saying goodbye.

    You really need to rethink your plan. Go to Toronto. You'll spend about the same amount, you'll have no trouble finding companionship only escorts, there will be no language barrier, you don't have to worry about crime and the police won't bother you. Plus, if you're going in April, the weather will be the same or better than in Bogota.
    Other site have consistency reviewed solitasparati as the agency who will send ladies in pictures and they alone have plenty of beautiful ladies though only 6 of them speak English.

    So you are saying bait and switch is something acceptable in Colombia and happens every time? If clients refuse be & S then it won't happen so often.

    When I call I will tell them exactly who I want. I tell them if she is not available then I go for the second choice and third and fourth and. Option until I reach the one who is available. I will be there two weeks and I have selected about 50 ladies which I plan to see less than half of them. If after giving them a long list and still they send me another lady this would be a deliberate attempt by them to deceive (and I also will tell them that after all these options if they send me another lady I won't pay anything in writing). They (the agency) will also receive bad reviews on all Colombia related review boards if in spite of all these they still carry out bait and switch.

    As why I have chosen Colombia even though I don't want sex or sexual activities (I do wish her companionship and a dance and hugs and kisses but I am not ready for pay for sex. Call me a moron if you wish) because I have met a few Colombian ladies in Montreal (one married colleague and the rest in Montreal strip bars) and they are all beautiful and friendly. I can only spend a little time with them while in strip bar. I really love Colombian girls and want their companionship for many hours.

    Yes I hope that I can find those who can carry out at least some broken conversation in English but your post is not encouraging I try to learn some Spanish then.

    I don't know any Colombian lady or ladies in Toronto so what would be the purpose of going to Toronto! Also I believe in North America it is illegal to invite strippers home for companionship (even if no sex or any sexual things happen it is likely still illegal but I am not sure) and for sure I am not going to break the law of the land. Out of question.

  3. #4610
    Quote Originally Posted by BogotaVisitor  [View Original Post]
    LaCelestina is the largest agency in Bogota and have relatively good looking ladies too so it is hard to eliminate them though I agree it is not cool that they send another girl whoever is available. May be the alternative is to tell them when contacting them that unless the very same lady in pictures is send I will refuse the lady with no payment. That way they think twice before doing the bait and switch. The only agency reviewed to always send really ladies in pictures in Solitasparati but unfortunately they have few English speaking and for someone like me who will be there for companionship and don't speak a word of Spanish then English speaking ladies is essential so I can't put aside this large agency. If you know of other agencies who will never do bait and switch please share.
    Good luck finding an agency that never does bait and switch. If you find them, ask if you can ride their unicorn.

    Also good luck finding an escort who speaks English well enough to carry on a long conversation. While they do exist, very few are going to be fluent in English, unless you stay in the 1 million Peso and up per hour range.

    First the bait and switch. Unless the escort agency is just one independent woman, bait and switch is going to happen. Every escort is not going to be available every time they are requested. Most people who are calling for an escort aren't going to wait 2 days for an appointment. So the person who does the bookings is going to accept your appointment and send someone. And you're going to end up paying them.

    Your plan to tell them you won't pay just means they will not send anyone. Why should they waste their time with you? Why deal with the hassle because the website picture is 2 years old and you don't believe it's the same girl? Believe it or not, they have other customers who are a lot easier to deal with.

    If they do send someone and you refuse to pay, even for the transportation, expect problems. Problem number 1, you just ended any chance of ever getting an escort from that agency (and often one person runs several different agencies). Problem number 2, you don't speak the language, you're a foreigner and you just refused to pay a debt you agreed to pay. If she makes a scene, guess whose side the Spanish speaking police officer is going to take? Guess what the hotel is going to think about a guest who disturbs other guests because he is hiring prostitutes and refusing to pay them?

    Why would you go to Colombia to hire escorts that you don't want to have sex with, when you don't speak the language? That makes less sense than going to a vegetarian restaurant, demanding they cook you a steak and then just stare at the food without eating it.

    Fluent English speakers are not common in Colombia. While many people speak some English, they aren't able to have a conversation. What you say you want, extended companionship without any sex, is going to require conversation. It requires conversation because the escort expects to show up, spend a few minutes talking and then have sex, followed by a little more talk, cleanup, get dressed, get paid and say chao. Most English speaking escorts know exactly enough English for greetings, a few compliments, discussing prices and saying goodbye.

    You really need to rethink your plan. Go to Toronto. You'll spend about the same amount, you'll have no trouble finding companionship only escorts, there will be no language barrier, you don't have to worry about crime and the police won't bother you. Plus, if you're going in April, the weather will be the same or better than in Bogota.

  4. #4609
    Quote Originally Posted by KillaCam11  [View Original Post]
    Had my eye on Tatiana from La Celestina. Agreed to 5 hours for 700 k, gave my hotel info, she was only 1.5 hours late, it was around 4 pm traffic was probably bad. Get a call from front desk, told them to send her up. She arrives, we talk for a bit as I am suspicious this is not the girl from the pictures since her boobs were a lot smaller. Then I finally show her the picture of Tatiana and she says that is Lina and there must be a mistake on the website. I talk to the guy at the agency he confirms this as well. I highly doubt it was a mistake as Tatiana is advertised as Tatiana on numerous sites including their Twitter. She probably wasn't available and they just sent Lina in her place. So what the hell Lina is a hot paisa tell her to stay, face 9 body 9 unless your a boobs man but what an ass, attitude 10. She was not GFE even at the price, didn't matter her looks and personality made up for everything. She was very chill, got her beer from the bar and went to town. Ate her pussy and tongue punched that bum hole, was delicious. She was down for all positions, she says she loves anal but it was extra, I passed on that. All in all I would repeat despite the price and lack GFE.

    Girl I ended up seeing- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepag...ogota-gabriela.

    Girl I wanted to see- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepag...bogota-tatiana.
    I don't know the donation you made but Tatiana was for 290 K and Lina for 255 K so if you made a Tatiana donation to Lina then this could be another reason for switch though as Jjbee mentioned unavailability of Tatiana is the more likely reason but they must not switch. If it was me I would have told them when I contacted them that if another lady is send I would refuse to see her and will also refuse to pay for her taxi in order to deter them from bait and switch. It is not cool. BTW, did the operator speak English when you called? Did the lady spoke English? Thanks.

  5. #4608
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I expect this is common for this and most prepago agencies. You make a request and they send someone. Maybe the one you requested has another appointment, or has the flu, or just doesn't feel like working. Instead of taking the risk you will pick another agency if your choice isn't available, they send someone else. Rather than admit it, they just claim a mistake.

    Let's face it, once she's in your room, the chances of you sending her away are much less.
    LaCelestina is the largest agency in Bogota and have relatively good looking ladies too so it is hard to eliminate them though I agree it is not cool that they send another girl whoever is available. May be the alternative is to tell them when contacting them that unless the very same lady in pictures is send I will refuse the lady with no payment. That way they think twice before doing the bait and switch. The only agency reviewed to always send really ladies in pictures in Solitasparati but unfortunately they have few English speaking and for someone like me who will be there for companionship and don't speak a word of Spanish then English speaking ladies is essential so I can't put aside this large agency. If you know of other agencies who will never do bait and switch please share.

  6. #4607
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueScotsMan  [View Original Post]
    Yes I agree your first choice was better, but it ended well. I was going to use this agency so I'm glad of the report.
    I expect this is common for this and most prepago agencies. You make a request and they send someone. Maybe the one you requested has another appointment, or has the flu, or just doesn't feel like working. Instead of taking the risk you will pick another agency if your choice isn't available, they send someone else. Rather than admit it, they just claim a mistake.

    Let's face it, once she's in your room, the chances of you sending her away are much less.

  7. #4606
    Quote Originally Posted by KillaCam11  [View Original Post]
    Had my eye on Tatiana from La Celestina. Agreed to 5 hours for 700 k, gave my hotel info, she was only 1.5 hours late, it was around 4 pm traffic was probably bad. Get a call from front desk, told them to send her up. She arrives, we talk for a bit as I am suspicious this is not the girl from the pictures since her boobs were a lot smaller. Then I finally show her the picture of Tatiana and she says that is Lina and there must be a mistake on the website. I talk to the guy at the agency he confirms this as well. I highly doubt it was a mistake as Tatiana is advertised as Tatiana on numerous sites including their Twitter. She probably wasn't available and they just sent Lina in her place. So what the hell Lina is a hot paisa tell her to stay, face 9 body 9 unless your a boobs man but what an ass, attitude 10. She was not GFE even at the price, didn't matter her looks and personality made up for everything. She was very chill, got her beer from the bar and went to town. Ate her pussy and tongue punched that bum hole, was delicious. She was down for all positions, she says she loves anal but it was extra, I passed on that. All in all I would repeat despite the price and lack GFE.

    Girl I ended up seeing- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepag...ogota-gabriela.

    Girl I wanted to see- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepag...bogota-tatiana.
    Yes I agree your first choice was better, but it ended well. I was going to use this agency so I'm glad of the report.

  8. #4605

    My first Colombiana?

    Well I arrive early Tuesday, a long ass 11 hour plus flight from London. I'll be in Bogota 1 week then to Medellin, so I'm looking for any recommendations On a nice chica to be my first. Yes a massage is probably good to help my jet lag. Should I just take a chance with a call in escort? Or does anyone have a old or new! Good girl they have come across on their hunting?

  9. #4604

    October trip

    Had my eye on Tatiana from La Celestina. Agreed to 5 hours for 700 k, gave my hotel info, she was only 1.5 hours late, it was around 4 pm traffic was probably bad. Get a call from front desk, told them to send her up. She arrives, we talk for a bit as I am suspicious this is not the girl from the pictures since her boobs were a lot smaller. Then I finally show her the picture of Tatiana and she says that is Lina and there must be a mistake on the website. I talk to the guy at the agency he confirms this as well. I highly doubt it was a mistake as Tatiana is advertised as Tatiana on numerous sites including their Twitter. She probably wasn't available and they just sent Lina in her place. So what the hell Lina is a hot paisa tell her to stay, face 9 body 9 unless your a boobs man but what an ass, attitude 10. She was not GFE even at the price, didn't matter her looks and personality made up for everything. She was very chill, got her beer from the bar and went to town. Ate her pussy and tongue punched that bum hole, was delicious. She was down for all positions, she says she loves anal but it was extra, I passed on that. All in all I would repeat despite the price and lack GFE.

    Girl I ended up seeing- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepag...ogota-gabriela.

    Girl I wanted to see- http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepag...bogota-tatiana.

  10. #4603
    Quote Originally Posted by Hioctane  [View Original Post]
    Do you speak Spanish? That is like $34 for a redbull vodka. I have never paid that much anywhere in Colombia. Ever!

    Go to Atunes in Santa Fe. You will get a drink for around 5 k! The girls mill around and ST is around 60-70 k.
    There may have been some confusion. I'm guessing he bought the bottle of vodka.

  11. #4602
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Let's start out with the positive, since the negative is killing it, Bogota isn't as cold as its painted out to be. I could walk around in jeans and a shirt. The second, it didn't feel dangerous in my barrio, Calle 95 esquina Carrera 14. I took a walk to the pharmacy and walked around in the bar area close to Lalos.

    First club to visit, Lalos: It felt / was dead and I managed to pay 105 000 for a vodka and Redbull.

    Then to the Mansion, I think they called it. One or two blocks away from Lalos. More girls, better ambiance, but 50 000 for a straight vodka.

    I notice that I'm getting fucked, in Spain the drinks would cost 30-45 for a vodka redbull in a high end club. In Spain the girls comes to the clients to start a convo, didn't happen in either of these places.

    I also went to a third club in the same area more or less but existed quickly.

    I have to ask, are there any places, big clubs like in Spain where you can speak to and get a feeling of the girls before choosing her?
    Do you speak Spanish? That is like $34 for a redbull vodka. I have never paid that much anywhere in Colombia. Ever!

    Go to Atunes in Santa Fe. You will get a drink for around 5 k! The girls mill around and ST is around 60-70 k.

  12. #4601
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Bogota hotels are security conscious, especially in the northern tourist areas. They tend to pay attention to who comes and goes. Maybe they won't notice one prepago, but if you're planning on a steady stream of women, they will definitely notice. It doesn't matter if you pay for 6 rooms, claiming 2 people in each room, the hotel is still going to check Identification of anyone who comes to visit. I think (but am not going to look it up right now) it's the law.

    What the other guy means is that you need to ask the hotel about their guest policy. You should do that before you pay for the reservation. You can call or send an email. Just ask "what is your hotel's policy regarding guests?

    You will get one of these answers:

    1. We do not allow additional guests. Only people registered for the room are allowed.

    2. We only allow X number of guests per day. Guests must sign in with the front desk.

    3. There is a charge for each guest (first one might be free). The charge is #X pesos. Guests must sign in with the front desk..
    I always find a cheap apartment on airbnb near Santa Fe. Around $25. Nice apartments and no BS hassles with hotels.

  13. #4600
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  14. #4599

    Need an Orthopedist in Bogota with Reasonable English Skills

    Was hoping someone could help me find an Orthopedist in Bogota that speaks reasonable English. I injured my hip about three weeks ago and it could be related to back issues. I don't have medical coverage, so I might as well have it treated, or at least looked at here. If you have a general practitioner in Bogota that speaks reasonable English, I could start there as I need an EKG too.

    I have had a great experience here in the past with dental work, so I hope to find similar quality medical care.

    Thanks!

  15. #4598
    Quote Originally Posted by BogotaVisitor  [View Original Post]
    That is strange JjBee62 as I thought of escorts differently. I thought escorts (usually educated and classy attractive ladies and who are not working in a brothel or street and only visiting selective gents) are paid for their time and companionship and whatever else that may or may not happen.
    I love your defintion of escort LOL! I guess she will see you as a real strange dude if you don't have sex with her! I confirm that in Bogota the very same girl can do escort, work in a massage parlor, in a high end club, in a low class brothel or in the street, and sometimes even in the very same day! She just tries a bit of everything and goes on with the option where she can earn most money. And it's not necessarely in a high end club that she might earn most.

    Regarding the cops, don't worry. Tourists are king in Colombia, police will never try to bother them. And in 10 years in Colombia I have never ever heard that someone got trouble with police for fucking a prostitute. Except of course if you do very stupid things such as going with a minor, not paying or beating a prostitute.

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