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  1. #39625

    Thanks

    Thanks. We now know you're special. Moving on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    Whatever works for you. But I can't sit on my hands when you present your strategy as "critical" to others who may just be starting out in Colombia. Yours is one approach, and in fact complements my very different approach perfectly. I don't mind and in fact enjoy paying a premium for having the best girls beat a path to my door and 90% of the time looking for an encore performance. I am not talking about paying double, or prices the average Gringo could not afford. But I don't mind paying 50 mil above what they are asking, plus a tip, and I pay taxi fare. The best performing girl is a happy girl and nothing makes these girls happier than money. When they feel as though they are being cut as low as possible, it will be reflected in their performance and attitude. Making yourself susceptible to papaya or crime is a different subject and common sense prevails there. Oh, and I almost always have little bedside gifts, usually nothing more than chocolate and some "jugo" which Colombians seem to be obsessed with waiting for them, and the return on that is more than worth it.

    Mind you, I have mongored the lowest of the low crackhead girls at 4AM from Boterro park for 20 mil for whatever reason. BUT my ideal girl is not found in a brothel, agency, on-line, etc. The best girl for me is a "regular" girl, not a sex worker, but a young single working mom with a young kid and often a mom at home. I meet them by walking up to them and talking to them shocker! By sleeping with me as "her usual" once a week, that doubles her income and is the difference between squeaking by and a decent quality of life for herself and her child. That is called motivation. Save your breath telling me that these girls sleep around, blah blah blah and that I am ruining the "price structure" for other Gringos. Hardly. I don't have that kind of economic power and frankly even if I did I wouldn't care what it did to the macroeconomic scene of mongering. One of the most pathetic things I see is when Gringos try to negotiate these girls down 10-20 mil lower, to what purpose? To make sure you got a "good deal?" Jajajaja. How quickly mongorers lose perspective from the States and how much better off they are by instantly setting foot on Colombian soil. If you really are on that tight of a shoestring budget then save your pesos and do it right with one girl instead of splitting it between two, and I predict you will be happier. I take that back. Please carry on as always. If I told you the full details of how I "manage" my girls, you would never believe me. My current entourage is just under 20 girls ages 18-26. Let's just say they appreciate me and they show it. The approach works the same whether it is one girl or twenty.

  2. #39624

    SJobs Missing-Another Unsolved Mystery

    Quote Originally Posted by FunLuvr  [View Original Post]
    I think you are talking about SJobs, not SlapShot. Your #1 possibility is most likely the case.
    Yes your correct, and it's beginning to sound more and more like SJobs was total fiction, or perhaps become a victim of one or more scanadalous Chicas of which we may never hear about and hope isn't the case.

    Mongering in Colombia, especially now with the Pandemic and the re-opening of the Country is just getting more and more dicey.

    I'm lining up some new Chicas for my return, and some are very aggressive, throwing it in my face the need for "ratos" and quick money.

    As I have said before, "you can never let your guard down" , and now more than ever, especially dealing with new Chicas however you meet them.

  3. #39623
    Within 24 hours of your flight, you have to go to a Colombian government web site and fill out information about you, COVID 19, where you are staying, etc. You also upload your test results to the site. You receive an e-mail verifying that you have done this. They asked to see it in the FLL airport.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    "Already registered with the Colombian government?" What is he / are you talking about??

  4. #39622
    While I was not looking for them, I also do not recall seeing them. I was waiting for my taxi guy, so I would think I would remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulibali  [View Original Post]
    That's some good intel right there, by the way did you see the paisa buses outside of the airport, I am talking about the ones for the 10000 peso fares.

  5. #39621
    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderRider  [View Original Post]
    Sorry, many of them are. Very much so.
    Sorry pro if you are from another country in Colombia you have money. You are not going to convince anyone other wise.

  6. #39620
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    The chicas are not stupid.
    Sorry, many of them are. Very much so.

  7. #39619
    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderRider  [View Original Post]
    This is CRITICAL to understand. Present yourself as nearly as financially impotent as they are...............
    The chicas are not stupid. If you are American there's no way you can achieve that. You have paid their annual income to travel to Colombia and you are staying in what is to them a posh apartment or hotel. How you dress will also give yourself away. Dressed in cheap clothes with an American accent would evoke more questions than answers, then what would be your chances with non-pros? Just be yourself and have your eyes wide open.

  8. #39618
    Autocorrect got me again, I meant Aiffe has been open for months.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    Affect has been open for months.

  9. #39617
    This is a dangerous post. It can lead inexperienced punters to believe they can ensure safety by choosing from Facebook rather than tinder or elsewhere. The best advice is to keep track of your drinks and food and be aware that in public places it isn't necessarily the girl who will slip you the mickey. They don't necessarily work alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by MojoBandit  [View Original Post]
    Yes that is exactly my point, with a Facebook chica you can get a better feel by looking at their profile where a Tinder is just a few photos. A Facebook page shows evidence of time accumulating photos etc, Sho tinder is just easier to be dodgy. The ID thing and doorman is also what I do but I was thinking the way the Tall Man told the story I do not think his building had security and obviously did not get cedula from the chica. But that is my recommendation you can get GFE and its a secure situation.

  10. #39616

    Respectfully disagree. "Impotent" was an interesting choice for the word you used.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderRider  [View Original Post]
    This is CRITICAL to understand. Present yourself as nearly as financially impotent as they are. Negotiate and low-ball everything. Say "no" even when you could easily say yes. Hint around at freebees, or just hanging out, even though you're unlikely to get one. Its managing expectations. Tell them outright "ya no tango dinero". They "get it", everyone they know is broke, flat broke.

    They come back expecting and accepting less. Demand and be clear about what you want. 12 minutes mechanical penetration with a condom is not good enough. (unless its a rare, irresistible trophy hottie in a sala or club. And prepare to be disappointed) Almost no one is irresistible anymore. Satisfaction trumps fantasy..
    Whatever works for you. But I can't sit on my hands when you present your strategy as "critical" to others who may just be starting out in Colombia. Yours is one approach, and in fact complements my very different approach perfectly. I don't mind and in fact enjoy paying a premium for having the best girls beat a path to my door and 90% of the time looking for an encore performance. I am not talking about paying double, or prices the average Gringo could not afford. But I don't mind paying 50 mil above what they are asking, plus a tip, and I pay taxi fare. The best performing girl is a happy girl and nothing makes these girls happier than money. When they feel as though they are being cut as low as possible, it will be reflected in their performance and attitude. Making yourself susceptible to papaya or crime is a different subject and common sense prevails there. Oh, and I almost always have little bedside gifts, usually nothing more than chocolate and some "jugo" which Colombians seem to be obsessed with waiting for them, and the return on that is more than worth it.

    Mind you, I have mongored the lowest of the low crackhead girls at 4AM from Boterro park for 20 mil for whatever reason. BUT my ideal girl is not found in a brothel, agency, on-line, etc. The best girl for me is a "regular" girl, not a sex worker, but a young single working mom with a young kid and often a mom at home. I meet them by walking up to them and talking to them shocker! By sleeping with me as "her usual" once a week, that doubles her income and is the difference between squeaking by and a decent quality of life for herself and her child. That is called motivation. Save your breath telling me that these girls sleep around, blah blah blah and that I am ruining the "price structure" for other Gringos. Hardly. I don't have that kind of economic power and frankly even if I did I wouldn't care what it did to the macroeconomic scene of mongering. One of the most pathetic things I see is when Gringos try to negotiate these girls down 10-20 mil lower, to what purpose? To make sure you got a "good deal?" Jajajaja. How quickly mongorers lose perspective from the States and how much better off they are by instantly setting foot on Colombian soil. If you really are on that tight of a shoestring budget then save your pesos and do it right with one girl instead of splitting it between two, and I predict you will be happier. I take that back. Please carry on as always. If I told you the full details of how I "manage" my girls, you would never believe me. My current entourage is just under 20 girls ages 18-26. Let's just say they appreciate me and they show it. The approach works the same whether it is one girl or twenty.

  11. #39615

    Laughed so hard coffee came out my nose!

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Maybe one of two possibilities.

    1. Slapshot was an illusion, a figment of our imagination and a frustrated fiction writer in his late forties living in his parent's basement living in Chicago spinning tales about his exploits in Colombia and how he would return including saying that he bought dozens of tickets for flights, was consulting with attorneys, and boasting about his brain power and his physical stamina and abruptly got kicked to the curb a few day's ago by his folks for being such a loser. OR.

    2. Upon arrival in Medellin, and I wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall witnessing all this, but he booked a dozen of his 18 year old cheerleaders and it has been overwhelming for him between the cheerleaders sitting on his face all time, while cheering him on too blow loads in the squad every few hours while under the influence of Tussi, Pot, Cocaine, and booze. He most probably has road rash on his Johnson and is in a "fucking daze" and a trance, kind of like one of the Sacalero Zombies in El Centro yet in a Penthouse in Poblado.
    Thanks for this, best laugh I have had in awhile!

  12. #39614
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Maybe one of two possibilities.

    1. Slapshot was an illusion, a figment of our imagination and a frustrated fiction writer in his late forties living in his parent's basement living in Chicago spinning tales about his exploits in Colombia and how he would return including saying that he bought dozens of tickets for flights, was consulting with attorneys, and boasting about his brain power and his physical stamina and abruptly got kicked to the curb a few day's ago by his folks for being such a loser. OR.

    2. Upon arrival in Medellin, and I wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall witnessing all this, but he booked a dozen of his 18 year old cheerleaders and it has been overwhelming for him between the cheerleaders sitting on his face all time, while cheering him on too blow loads in the squad every few hours while under the influence of Tussi, Pot, Cocaine, and booze. He most probably has road rash on his Johnson and is in a "fucking daze" and a trance, kind of like one of the Sacalero Zombies in El Centro yet in a Penthouse in Poblado.
    Quote Originally Posted by FunLuvr  [View Original Post]
    I think you are talking about SJobs, not SlapShot. Your #1 possibility is most likely the case.
    I love a good conspiracy theory! This reminds me of lying in bed with Pinky, last night, and going down the rabbit hole of brujeria in Colombia. She was on a call with her friend who is apparently under a spell / curse, and is going to have it lifted / removed. She has been having problems with her moto, getting sick but never diagnosed with anything, and not being able to eat. I was dying laughing. I'm glad Pinky isn't too sensitive, because I think many chicas would be offended by my insensitive gringo dismissal of the topic. Wildly entertaining, though. I asked if she knew who did it. I asked if she knew many brujas who had the ability to do it. I asked If she did something to some one that maybe led to this. My line of investigative thinking was not taken very seriously. Some of the shit you come across or learn about down here is amazing. I was watching a video and the lady said one of the symptoms of being under a spell is having a sore throat. Pinky gave me that, SEE?! I FUCKING TOLD YOU! look. I told her in the US, if you keep having problems with your car, you buy a new car. You don't blame it on a witch.

    Anyhow, if I was a secret double agent, I wouldn't have time to type about this bullshit, because I'd be writing a 7-page documentary about my alter ego's first few days in the Land of Eternal Teens! I'm also terrible at keeping up with lies, so I would have been made months ago.

    Pinky is off to get a new cedula, today. I'm thinking about maybe taking a trip to a beach in a few weeks, when my rent is up. It looks like Colombians can travel to a handful of countries with just their IDs. My only question / concern is the re-entry from those countries, or possible annoyances with departure / arrival / etc. Yes, I would bring sand to the beach. The thought of Pinky going to town with a carioca is just too good to pass up on.

    Cheers.

    Oh, and here are a couple pics of the Boneless Serpent for your viewing pleasure. One for advertisement purposes, and one I took, myself. Pinky isn't a huge fan, as she's too submissive and lacking of carnal passion. I tend to agree. She wasn't our first choice. However, if you're looking to mix it up with a blonde that can bend like a balloon animal...
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  13. #39613

    Resentment

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    What do you mean deep-rooted hatred for Americans?
    I think hatred may be a strong word-certainly disdain and resentment though.

    United States Americans-especially the white ones (technically, Colombians are Americans. They are South Americans) are perceived to be unappreciative of the easy privileged life they are born into-then they go and wstefully throw money around and disrespect other cultures by trying to dominate the world and exert power in various ways. Their is a deep seeded resentment and disdain for most US Americans. Too many behav like assholes in too many places. Too many are racists. Don't underestimate how much Trump / trumpism and the idiotic racist republicans are making their hatred worse. People in other countries are so disappoointd in how far the USA is falling and how incredbily bigoted, and disgusting the current administation is.

    Many colombians also see the USA funding weapons sales and wars and increasing the police state through their support of the drug war--which is really a war on people. The drugs don't get shot or go to jail--te people do. Spending billions on weapons to fight coca sales and production when many Colombians are so poor they sell their body to you just to eat--adds to this resentment.

    Many US Americans are the kind that say: if you come to my country (USA) learn and speak english--then ***** about people not speaking english for them in Colombia!

    Many Colombians see how the. US became dominant not through justice and equal rights under the law and spreading light-but through force, genocide and slavery. The richness of the USA isn't perceived as rightfully gained-but, rather, stolen from people like them.

  14. #39612

    Exacly

    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    Yup. That is your best defense. Stay at hotels or apartments that have this policy. Talk to the door staff to make sure they don't let a girl leave w / o speaking with you first. When making conversation with the girl, I typically tell them that I like staying in this building because of their policies and the safety it provides.
    This. I let the girls know that I appreciate the security. I tip the security guys at the front desk and ask them to call the room when / if they see her leave without me. I have stayed at the same place -and they have had the same staff each of my last 10 times to MDE. When I leave, extra unopened bottles of wine got to the security guards for the next time. I also tip housekeeping well for extra towels and even for their vigilance. I have had a few girls leave in the morning and before the girl has been able to get down the hall, through the elevator and out of the building-housekeeping has knocked on the door to check on me / see if I need anything--without me even asking for that--but, since I treat them nicely and I tip--they just do it.

    I try to switch from Tinder to WhatsApp ASAP and I try to get their Facebook. Its kinda fishy if a tinder girl doesn't have facebook / insta. And whatsapp.

    If I think its all good, but am not sure. I offer to meet them downstairs and walk them up-or when the front desk calls I will come down to get them--if I don't like-they don't come up. If she is a repeat--obviously I just tell the front desk to send her up.

    This would be different if I was to stay for months and not weeks--if in a place for months--then other strategies have to be developed-like not letting too many people see you walking in and out too many different girls.

    For now, I am a short termer when I can get there.

    I think its insane to be going now, is only going to drag all of the pandemic out longer and is not helping. Traveling now and thinking its all good is how we get 2nd and 3rd waves and how the virus continues to linger in society. It may get ya laid this week--but in the next 6 months-its making it all more difficult for everyone.

  15. #39611

    You are partially correct about reinfection but you are missing the main point

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    There are a number of cases reported in literature where someone took it twice.

    However, what is totally unknown is how easily such a case happens. It may be very unlikely, but nobody knows yet. Also, nobody knows (yet) if the level of protection decays slowly or quickly.

    To be clear: passing a pathogen agent and getting infected is a random phaenomenon, for any contagious disease. A number of factors do impact the probability to get infected, including the number of viruses getting into the body and the level of self-defense (anti-bodies, etc.). We do not get herpes necessarily if we put our dick into a pussy with open sores, but given its level of infectiousness it is very likely, yet not sure.

    Therefore, while it is clear that someone who had some disease has also antibodies, the level of immunity and how long it lasts depend on the specific disease. For known diseases, this information is well known. For example, if one has got measles, it is nearly impossible (extremely unlikely) to get it again during the whole life. However, it is not impossible..
    Please note I originally wrote "so far" there is no epidemiological evidence of reinfection. Rare, extremely rare, case studies reported in the literature is not proof, and in fact supports the immunity model. Even if there are 10 or 100 or 1000 cases of reinfection reported, that supports the immunity model. BTW, most of these reports are hearsay but that is a moot point. I will explain it the best I can.

    You are in good company as many of the so called experts do not understand the epidemiology either, but the concept is not difficult. If immunity was not conferred by previous infection, then based on the known "attack" rate of the virus there would be tens of thousands of repeat cases in the United States alone, and hundreds of thousands of repeat cases if not millions, worldwide. This is simply not happening. Furthermore, alarms and headlines would be going off everywhere about it. Instead, there are rare "one-off" reports which if they weren't so rare to begin with would not even be publishable (you are supposed to say touche' at this point). These case reports support the immunity model because they are so very rare. There are a multitude of reasons why rare reinfections would be possible with the most likely cause being reporting error or the person had an underlying condition that prevented mounting a proper immune response to the primary infection. Perhaps it is prudent to say, "no one knows" about reinfection, and I would agree with that for the long term, but that is a non-thinking response for the current state. For now I am immune to the current strain, and basic statistics from the epidemiology proves it. Not lab tests, not opinions from infectious disease specialists, not agency heads, not theory, not blogs, but fact. The main reason antibody tests are not accepted as proof is because the test is not FDA approved.

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