Medellin Reports

[Member #4393]

Hmmmm. Sounds like you haven't seen many gringos that didn't look like a monger.

But I get the point you are trying to make. Does seem like there are a few gringos on the board that think people can tell if their date is a prepago just by looking at the girl when the truth is they are looking at the gringo and the chick is just guilty by association.

So for the guys that think it is the girl and not you. Here is a little test you can perform. If your girl won't kiss you in public. You definitely look like a monger. And if she won't let you meet her family and friends she just doesn't like you or know you well enough. Pretty simple actually.

MG I have been doing this a long long time. Self awareness is a big asset in this game, and thinking you blend into Colombian society at age 50 out with a hot 20 year old, no matter how suave you think you are, you are mistaken. As far as how gringos look, there are guys that groom well, in shape, clothes match, speak Spanish that are still clueless on how Colombian society works. This is because we come from planet Mars compared to a society based on the socio-economic aberrations of Colombia.

[SlamCity7777]

Those days are long gone in MDE. Maybe 10 years ago, if you were blond (and young, tall and good-looking) you were a curiosity for them. But this hasn't been the case for a long, long time. You might still find this if you head to a small town where there are virtually no tourists, but certainly not in MDE. Maybe go to Quibdo.

Yes I agree that just being a gringo is not enough to get a non pro in well any where other than China or Korea where that shit still plays and it's a curiosity and status thing.

Hard truth of life. Tall, blond, and Good Looking will always be in style with girls! Just like Long hair, thin body, big tits, long pretty hair, and a fat ass are always in demand.

[Combo]

Those days are long gone in MDE. Maybe 10 years ago, if you were blond (and young, tall and good-looking) you were a curiosity for them. But this hasn't been the case for a long, long time. You might still find this if you head to a small town where there are virtually no tourists, but certainly not in MDE. Maybe go to Quibdo.

THEY ARE EXOTIC TO US, AND WE FOR THEM.

We are blond, +10 cm taller, blue eyes, comes from a continent like they imagine is some sort of Paradise.

Many mestizos, indians, black colombianas NEVER get the chance to rise in "socio-economic status".

Extranjeros gives the opportunity, they get the chance to leave a hopeless situation.

Barrio girls with examinas from SENA, SENSA etc. Will never get a good jobb as economists, law, etc.

There are 2-5% rich in Colombia, and they take a degree in a high class University abroad.

20% studies at EAFIT, UPB, Nacional.

50% get a mediocre examina or drop out and 25% never even start.

This change, but it is a slow process.

I have had girlfriends and prepagos since 2009. I have been out with girls on restaurants, events etc. Never noticed anything about that I was a client and she a prepago.

Colombians respect persons private spere! Which americans certainly don't do, as many Europeans.

They simply have in their culture; they don't bother others, and doesn't have to be worried about others bothering them.

That's what I love about there culture!

Medellin has 500 k females 18-35 and, only the the top 20% are 100.000 girls!

This is not Pattaya och Angeleses City or Sosua.

I spend DAYS in Laureles without seeing a gringo, and if I do, it's usually some backpackers.

Areas as Parque Lleras, San Diego etc, exists in every city, world around. But's a fraction of the total escort, P4 P, etc. That gringos are involved in.

Enjoy Medellin and Colombia.

Of course they think we are guapos; 6 feet /+180 com, bodyshape and structure are tall-thin!

Colombianas like that, they love it.

But are expected to marry a boring guy from a well-known and established family, to keep status quo; and do their part; helping with all domestic-never-ending-work.

That's the reason. They flee their duties!

PREPAGOS. Hmmm. All girls that are pretty or normal pretty has sexual services to get advantages since they are very young.

Colombia is like that. Girls are horney and having sex for money doesn't bother the majority of them.

Being alone on Holidays is a sad problems, but the other 98% of the days.

[Nino Bravo]

Interesting. I have noticed that some gringos with mental or psychological problems tend to come to South American cities, including Medellin..

Well, one has to wonder about a 53 year old guy who gets zero attention from women of any age in the US, then when he goes to Colombia he is suddenly God's gift to 20 year old girls, and comes on forums like this bragging about how these girls simply love him. Then suddenly he gets spurned by one (not the first time he has crashed and burned) then takes drastic reactionary measures by undergoing a face lift. No, this is not normal behavior.

[Mr Enternational]

They are exotic to us, and we for them.

We are blond, +10 cm taller, blue eyes, comes from a continent like they imagine is some sort of Paradise.

Who is this WE that we are talking about?

[C Jack Sparrow]

I wouldn't take MedellinGringo's posts too seriously. I've known the guy for 20 years and he is harmless. He has always thought he was better than any other gringo when traveling to Colombia and running with the prepagos (except for a select few). He is a good guy, but something recently must have brought him down a peg or two when out on the town with his 20 old barrio girls. He told me the other day he spent 13 grand on some extensive plastic surgery. Its hard to fight father time and even the smoothest and most handsome, well dressed johns in Colombia will start getting looks from the locals sooner or later. Most will pay the looks no mind. Guys like MG take it personally and spend many sleepless nights fretting about it, then take drastic measures by going under the knife. My question is, do the barrio prepagos think he is more attractive? I doubt it. They would find him more attractive if he gave them the 13 grand.

They are exotic to us, and we for them.

We are blond, +10 cm taller, blue eyes, comes from a continent like they imagine is some sort of Paradise.

Many mestizos, indians, black colombianas NEVER get the chance to rise in "socio-economic status".

Extranjeros gives the opportunity, they get the chance to leave a hopeless situation.

Barrio girls with examinas from SENA, SENSA etc. Will never get a good jobb as economists, law, etc.

There are 2-5% rich in Colombia, and they take a degree in a high class University abroad.

20% studies at EAFIT, UPB, Nacional.

50% get a mediocre examina or drop out and 25% never even start.

This change, but it is a slow process.

I have had girlfriends and prepagos since 2009. I have been out with girls on restaurants, events etc. Never noticed anything about that I was a client and she a prepago.

Colombians respect persons private spere! Which americans certainly don't do, as many Europeans.

They simply have in their culture; they don't bother others, and doesn't have to be worried about others bothering them.

That's what I love about there culture!

Medellin has 500 k females 18-35 and, only the the top 20% are 100.000 girls!

This is not Pattaya och Angeleses City or Sosua.

I spend DAYS in Laureles without seeing a gringo, and if I do, it's usually some backpackers.

Areas as Parque Lleras, San Diego etc, exists in every city, world around. But's a fraction of the total escort, P4 P, etc. That gringos are involved in.

Enjoy Medellin and Colombia.

Of course they think we are guapos; 6 feet /+180 com, bodyshape and structure are tall-thin!

Colombianas like that, they love it.

But are expected to marry a boring guy from a well-known and established family, to keep status quo; and do their part; helping with all domestic-never-ending-work.

That's the reason. They flee their duties!

PREPAGOS. Hmmm. All girls that are pretty or normal pretty has sexual services to get advantages since they are very young.

Colombia is like that. Girls are horney and having sex for money doesn't bother the majority of them.

Being alone on Holidays is a sad problems, but the other 98% of the days.

[Soldierb11]

I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?

I am guilty as charged on that account before. I think as someone astutely mentioned Maslow's hierarchy that may have something to do with it. My preferences for LT vs ST change back and forth. I used to be all about the LT and stay several days with a girl and it was great, now more often I go for ST so I can sleep earlier and hit the gym but after that for awhile I will need a LT again to satisfy that urge.

[Member #4394]

Interesting. I have noticed that some gringos with mental or psychological problems tend to come to South American cities, including Medellin.

I wouldn't take MedellinGringo's posts too seriously. I've known the guy for 20 years and he is harmless. He has always thought he was better than any other gringo when traveling to Colombia and running with the prepagos (except for a select few). He is a good guy, but something recently must have brought him down a peg or two when out on the town with his 20 old barrio girls. He told me the other day he spent 13 grand on some extensive plastic surgery. Its hard to fight father time and even the smoothest and most handsome, well dressed johns in Colombia will start getting looks from the locals sooner or later. Most will pay the looks no mind. Guys like MG take it personally and spend many sleepless nights fretting about it, then take drastic measures by going under the knife. My question is, do the barrio prepagos think he is more attractive? I doubt it. They would find him more attractive if he gave them the 13 grand.

[ForceSteeler]

I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?

There nothing wrong with taking a hooker and wine and dine her. Its your money you can do what you want. Just remember at the end of the day she is a hooker and don't every try to turn a hooker into a house wife.

Also why do you guys care if the locals think your with a hooker?. Who cares what they think, I swear people spend to much time worrying about what people think. As a man I don't give a fuck. The one who should be walking in shame is the hooker.

There more social stigma and shame for the women at the end of the day. People will more look down on a women for being a hooker, then a guy that bangs hookers.

[James Dandy]

For some guy like James Dandy who has obviously been here and knows where to find hookers for an hour I'm not for you, but my clients are here for the first or second time and don't know where to go. Its not easy to get a girl to hang out with you for 4 or 5 hours if your not working with someone like me, who's makes sure the girl knows what her responsibility is and is a friend of mine! Bottom of the barrel Mongers like James Dandy are alone every night and especially holidays trust me! He thinks he's a stud because he knows he can find someone to pay for 30 minutes in a casa. Shooting yourself is a good option for these out of gas types like James Dandy!

Spend an evening with this sweetie!

Colombia Jake

I was referring to having to get a hooker on Christmas, and then calling her a girlfriend. It would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic. I didn't mention pricing, but since you brought it up.

As for the rest of your comment, I paid 120 K for 6 hour session yesterday (actually two separate 3 hour sessions with same girl, with dinner in the middle which cost 33 K), and that included anal. So I would add that your pricing is ridiculous, and I wish you'd quit openly taking advantage of guys here by suggesting they are getting a "girlfriend experience" as you set them up to walk around park Lleras with a hooker. Just be upfront and quit humping it so hard. If somebody needs your introduction to hookers then they will use your "hotel suites", but it isn't going to be any different than any other hooker "date" and it certainly isn't a girlfriend if they have to pay 300 K for a few hours to walk her around Lleras, so call it for what it is.

And I stand by my comment that nothing is more desperate than being so alone, with no girlfriend or family, on Christmas than paying Jake to call a hooker to pretend she is a girlfriend. In addition, there are not many hookers that have no place to be on Christmas (less talent available), making it one degree worse! It's not like the Christmas question and what's available hasn't been addressed a million times in the thread. Suggesting you are the only one that can get a hooker to eat a meal with a client is a joke. Even a noobie knows hookers LOVE eating at restaurants as long as they are still on the clock since it's less work for them, but that doesn't make her a girlfriend or the dinner a "date".

If you don't like it Jake, don't read it. We read your BS and advertising all the time, so I'll post my opinion when it's appropriate. Take your last jab and be done with it. It's clear you like any kind of publicity at all so I won't play into it and keep boosting your post to the top of the thread, but suffice to say any guy that spends 300K on a hooker in MDE can surely get her to go to dinner in that price as well, maybe he can even get a picture of them holding hands to brag to his friends back home!!

[Dellorto]

I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?

Good point. Speaking for myself: I have only been mongering for 1 year now, and the girls I choose to hit get a fair treatment. I really treat them with the same respect and courtesy as I do with normal girls back home. Off course a lot of these working girls are in some sort of trouble and probably have a lot on their mind so I try to make the 'transaction' as smooth as possible, for the both of us. In my experience it often works in your favor if she picks up your good intentions. Depending on the level of chemistry, going to the beach, dinner, movies or club is all part of the game as far as I'm concerned, just like with normal girls. You could see it as an investment with short term high return. There's also the fact that I like to see her have a good time, as good as possible in these circumstances. There has to be give and take on both sides, nothing wrong with adding a little extra on top of regular payment.

I have no intention of overpaying the girls I pick, but in my experience this approach of treating them like normal girls helps me get the most out of my $$ when on vacation looking for pussy. As for why we don't do the same back home: I really don't see the need to monger back home as there are thousands of girls here who you know how to approach, you're in your hometown, speak the language and you know the game inside out. Mongering is for when I'm in unknown territory and picking up girls is not as easy because of language etc.

Furthermore I firmly agree with this statement:

Do your thing though CJ. I will never knock another man's hustle.

[Mr Enternational]

I do this once in a while because it is fun. A working girl can also be a nice girl, with whom one can have a good time, eating, dancing, etc. I did that just recently in Pattaya,
I am not sure what kind of working girls you are meeting, but I can assure you that I met many nice ones over time, well worth spending time with. I even did that in the US where I live. And, of course I do that in Medellin once in a while as well.

Well I live in Pattaya so I guess I am meeting the same kind of working girls that you are. I guess that for me, when I have been to a place a couple of times I tend to develop friendships and relationships with women who are not P4 P so I have no desire to do normal things with hookers. My first times in Brazil and Thailand yes we let the working girls show us around the cities, but after that I was on to women that I did not have to pay to move up with in my heirarchy of needs.

[MedellinGringo]

I just can't figure out the gringo deal though. And I am just as guilty of it as anyone else. Why do we go to other countries and want to "date" the hookers? Take them to dinner, dancing, site seeing with us? And it really trips me out even more when I think would we even do this where we are from? I don't think so. How many guys here when back home order up a hooker and take her to dinner and dancing without giving a damn about what others think? Usually you fuck and send her on her way, not wanting to bring any unnecessary attention and maybe even being ashamed to be seen with a hooker. So why is it that when we go to a different country the conventional john-hooker relationship dynamic goes out the window for us?

First of all. I don't see anything about most of the prepagos that I know that would indicate they are a prepago. If you are going out and people think she is a prepago it is because you most likely look like a john. And if that is the case and it bothers you or her. You should probably spend your time in the privacy of your apartment. But it is still nice to get to know someone and enjoy someone's company outside the bedroom. Personally I think it makes the intimacy a lot better if you have some chemistry beforehand.

And lastly it doesn't cost anymore to take your prepago out other than the extra cost of drinks, dinner or movie tickets. I'm pretty sure an American hooker would be charging by the hour the whole time.

[Nino Bravo]

Believe what you want, but until she takes you home to meet her parents or to their favorite family restaurants where everybody knows her, she is painfully aware that it's obvious to everybody you are a john and she is a puta. Medellin is smaller and much more close knit than most people realize unless they live here for an extended period of time. Good clothes have nothing to do with it, just means she costs you more when you're paying for sex. I see hot girls in the mall all the time with their boyfriends wearing cheap Centro jeans and nobody thinks they are a puta.

The locals know more than you think, it's their culture and their city and it works this way because they set it up this way. Almost any middle aged or older gringo with a hot younger lady is already suspected of being in paid relationship, and it's 100% true when the gringo doesn't know any Spanish. Do you really think people can't figure out how this older man found his way to Medellin and into this girl's company without knowing how to communicate?.

I wouldn't take MedellinGringo's posts too seriously. I've known the guy for 20 years and he is harmless. He has always thought he was better than any other gringo when traveling to Colombia and running with the prepagos (except for a select few). He is a good guy, but something recently must have brought him down a peg or two when out on the town with his 20 old barrio girls. He told me the other day he spent 13 grand on some extensive plastic surgery. Its hard to fight father time and even the smoothest and most handsome, well dressed johns in Colombia will start getting looks from the locals sooner or later. Most will pay the looks no mind. Guys like MG take it personally and spend many sleepless nights fretting about it, then take drastic measures by going under the knife. My question is, do the barrio prepagos think he is more attractive? I doubt it. They would find him more attractive if he gave them the 13 grand.

[MedellinGringo]

If you are concerned about "looking like a monger" or worried about whether people think you are with a hooker when you are eating out or perusing the mall. Pssss. They know. If this bothers you, check out of the Mansion / Jake frat house / Park Lleras apartment and stop banging 18-25 year old girls from Bello. Find someone about your age, learn Spanish and drop your dirt bag monger friends and make some nice friends from the tennis club up the hill. Hell, stay in Minnesota and bang 50 year old farmer women with yeast infections.

Or face the consequences, understand that everyone knows why that 22 year old hot girl is with you (except probably you) and enjoy yourself.

Hmmmm. Sounds like you haven't seen many gringos that didn't look like a monger.

But I get the point you are trying to make. Does seem like there are a few gringos on the board that think people can tell if their date is a prepago just by looking at the girl when the truth is they are looking at the gringo and the chick is just guilty by association.

So for the guys that think it is the girl and not you. Here is a little test you can perform. If your girl won't kiss you in public. You definitely look like a monger. And if she won't let you meet her family and friends she just doesn't like you or know you well enough. Pretty simple actually.