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[SubCmdr]

The Topic for today is: Prosecutorial Discretion.

I believe the girl's age was mentioned as 15.

Here is an article from Minuto30 that has more details than DCRob's video.

https://www.minuto30.com/a-la-carcel...ellin/1603081/

It is interesting to see how the Chinese man from last week was released without being charged while this American is being treated like Bin Laden. I guess the difference is that the girl with whom the chinese man was caught had a fake ID.

I'm not condoning what either of these two guys did, but it does appear quite clear that Colombia is treating US men caught up in these situations differently than locals and / or Chinese people.

You are making a solid point here my brother. A point that flys over the head of many. The point you made is called prosecutorial discretion. The controlling legal authorities are at liberty to treat people how they wish. It is only after your case proceeds to a judge that you receive your rights under the law (maybe, depends upon what country you are in). From the street cop right up the to charging attorney, each one of these people have the option of sending you to the next stop in the criminal justice system or letting you walk.

And I just shake my head at the arrogance of people. LE is targeting American mongers but all you dummies think it is not you. It is "the bad guys". It never occurs to you that what LE means is that you are the bad guys right?

Well, only the activities of the individuals determine who is acting bad or not. Immigration has always had the discretion of allowing in who they want and who they don't. If Colombian officials are learning profiling from their counterparts in the (Dis) United States of America then they are learning from experts who have been using profiling to discriminate again their own citizens for decades or more.

Of course you are not a bad guy because you visit Colombia to see your girlfriend and her kid. LOL! Everyone else who is not you, bad.

And you do not have to talk to nurses or students or professionals. You can have nothing but texts from hookers in your phone. It is fine. I am Gabacho, and I know best.

I fail to understand how this statement adds to our understand of the situation. Nor why you target Gabacho. He made a point that you never addressed: prosecutorial discretion. At the risk of just breaking it off up in ya, your statements actually support what Gabacho. Please refer to the portion of your post I highlighted in bold.

The fact is that prosecutorial discretion is being used to target who they wish to target. This not an original Colombian idea. They learned it from the (Dis) United States of America. As they have a long tradition in their law enforcement history of targeting certain groups. So yeah, there is a new law enforcement push. Yeah, you have to be careful with your activities. But no Elvis does not know best nor does he know everything. Nor is he special in anyway.

But I am. Because I come to check up on my business and see my girlfriend, business partner and her kid, get medical treatment, eat good food, buy useless stuff in central and see the sights that there are to see. I guess they will play "hail the chief" at immigration for me now. I will not hold my breath. LOL!

Pussy is pussy, except when it is underage. Illegal is illegal. That does not mean everyone is treated equally in the eyes of the law. I grew up under a system in my country of origin where it was "with liberty and justice for those who can pay for it". It appears law enforcement officials are learning a thing or two from their counterparts from the north. Now why Colombia does not call the (Dis) United States of America out for their drug problem and overspending, I have no idea!

[JustTK]

Why would the Colombians not arrest you? After this last head shaking post, do you have any reason you can give to be in Colombia outside of fucking hookers?

I saw him about 2 months ago, and that was not behind bars. .

Why would the Colombians not arrest you? After this last head shaking post, do you have any reason you can give to be in Colombia outside of fucking hookers?

We are all seeing our GFs, aren't we.

[Gabacho]

I tell people about the change in expression of the customs agent when she thought I was a monger and when she realized I was seeing my GF and her kid. I went from being the biggest scumbag on earth to an upstanding man in the literal blink of an eye.

And you really are full of yourself, Elvis. As another poster pointed out, the immigration officer was treating you the way she was because you were in the line for Colombian citizens instead of the line for foreigners. When your girlfriend and her kid walked by then she changed her attitude toward you because she felt sorry and didn't want to make them wait on you. The correct thing to do would have been to go to the foreigners line, even if there wasn't an immigration officer there, and then wait for an immigration officer to arrive and open up the counter. I have done just that plenty of times in Cancun when I get off the plane fast and then speed walk in front of the rest of the people to get to the from of the line and then I follow the signs to the "extranjero" side and if there isn't an officer there I wait for one to get there, I don't just cut out of the line and go to the cuidadano line unless if the other officers instruct me to do so. Get over yourself Elvis, you aren't special.

[JustTK]

I'm not condoning what either of these two guys did, but it does appear quite clear that Colombia is treating US men caught up in these situations differently than locals and / or Chinese people.

But the legal position is different Gabacho. It seems crazy that USA enforces its own laws in another land, but that is not normal. So a Chinese person only has to abide by the Colombian law. There may be situations where Chinese tourists are not breaking any law in Colombia whereas, for the same act, USAns are.

[Gabacho]

Right. Which means you couldn't care less. But you wrote you could care less.

Ahh gotcha. Sorry for the grammatical error. You're right I meant "couldn't care less" instead of "could care less. "

By the way Google says they both mean that you don't care and either one is informal, but I get where you're coming from, if I say I could care less that implies that I must have cared somewhat.

Thanks for the English lesson.

[JustTK]

Yea that's what I said that I don't care or could care less what her career is outside of being a puta. For me I'm looking for a quick fuck not marriage. So why would I care what her profession is?

Right. Which means you couldn't care less. But you wrote you could care less.

[Gabacho]

Here "I could care less if she was a nurse or if she was a homeless person".

Yea that's what I said that I don't care or could care less what her career is outside of being a puta. For me I'm looking for a quick fuck not marriage. So why would I care what her profession is?

[JustTK]

And where did I say I could care less?

Here "I could care less if she was a nurse or if she was a homeless person".

[Gabacho]

Isn't this how you got robbed? Bringing multiple women to an Airbnb?

Oh and by the way Elvis, I have long since replaced my stolen electronics with new better replacements, I now have a much better Samsung tablet than the one I had before, I have a better laptop as well. And while currently I'm using the same crappy Sony DSC-W800 (I actually bought this camera twice as the first one was stolen) I'm currently saving up to purchase a Cannon G7 X which will be my next good camera since I sold my Sony RX100 m3 (not the camera that was stolen, I sold it in summer 2022 when the flash burnt out).

So I guess I can almost thank those two stupid vennies for stealing my $300 usd worth of electronics because I have developed my "Monger's Safety Rules" because of them and most likely have averted subsequent stupid vennies from stealing more from me such as the as the one that told the Indriver dude to buy beer and then I'd pay him back, I straight up canceled the service before she even arrived.

[Gabacho]

I believe the girl's age was mentioned as 15.

Here is an article from Minuto30 that has more details than DCRob's video.

https://www.minuto30.com/a-la-carcel...ellin/1603081/

It is interesting to see how the Chinese man from last week was released without being charged while this American is being treated like Bin Laden. I guess the difference is that the girl with whom the chinese man was caught had a fake ID.

I'm not condoning what either of these two guys did, but it does appear quite clear that Colombia is treating US men caught up in these situations differently than locals and / or Chinese people.

This was a reply to the post by XXL in the general info thread, this post:

This is bad. They don't even say how young/old the girl was. Could have been just minor for prostitution purposes, not even minor as per common law. And the guy gets arrested on camera like he was Bin Laden.

Colombia = foreign monger entrapment country number one now.

Not sure how it ended up quoting JustTK's post in this thread. Although my post about the monger Safety rules was quoting JustTK.

[Gabacho]

I assume the rules are for you and no one else, LOL. After all, I doubt the girls are going to have a few drinks and then decide to rob you.

I thought you were explaining that you couldn't care less? But you wrote you could. So please make up your mind.

I believe the girl's age was mentioned as 15.

Here is an article from Minuto30 that has more details than DCRob's video.

https://www.minuto30.com/a-la-carcel...ellin/1603081/

It is interesting to see how the Chinese man from last week was released without being charged while this American is being treated like Bin Laden. I guess the difference is that the girl with whom the chinese man was caught had a fake ID.

I'm not condoning what either of these two guys did, but it does appear quite clear that Colombia is treating US men caught up in these situations differently than locals and / or Chinese people.

[Gabacho]

I assume the rules are for you and no one else, LOL. After all, I doubt the girls are going to have a few drinks and then decide to rob you.

I thought you were explaining that you couldn't care less? But you wrote you could. So please make up your mind.

My rules to avoid getting robbed are simple, while I made them for me I don't mind sharing them here if it will help other mongers:

1.) Never bring 2 women into your place, just one at a time.

2.) Never leave anything of value out in an easy to steal location.

3.) Never leave her alone in your room to shower.

4.) Always keep eye sight on her hands (if not eyesight atleast make sure you can always feel her hands, such as when you're getting a blowjob make sure you can feel both her hands, one on your dick and one on your balls for example).

5.) Don't get intoxicated with her. This means zero alcohol and zero Marijuana or anything that can change your state of awareness. You can always drink after the deed while chatting with your buddies or something.

6.) If you decide to drink a non-alcoholic drink such as coca-cola or Hit or water or something make sure you pour it yourself, into a glass that you grabbed from your cabinet and first rinsed off and then poured your drink into.

6 b.) Never leave said drink unattended, drink it all at once and then rinse the glass and put it back in the cabinet, or bring it with you to the bedroom. And place on nightstand and again keep track of her hands the entire time (see #4).

7.) Always keep cellphone and wallet in your pants pocket and when you take off your pants put them out of arms reach of the bed but still within your eyesight (I. E. Not in another room or living room as this could give an opportunity for her to try to steal something if you are in the bed and she uses the restroom).

8.) Lock the front door with a lock that needs a key to open from both inside as well as the outside (These are common in Colombia as well as Mexico). Although leeds common in an Airbnb, but preferably the double sided lock is better so the door cannot be opened from the inside without the key. After locking the door keep the key in your pants along with your cellphone and wallet. Now she can no longer open the door to let anyone else in.

9.) install security cameras that you have access to on your cell phone. At a minimum have atleast one outside pointed at the front door so you can see who is at the door before you open it. You can do this with an old cell phone and linking it to your current cellphone through the Wi-Fi and an app called Alfred Camera.

10.) if something doesn't feel right it probably isn't.

She is there to provide a service. (I. E. To have sex) and then to get paid and leave. She's not there to drink alcohol, eat your food, to waste time, to be constantly on her cellphone messaging someone, etc. Any of those behaviors are red flags, tell her to put her phone away and get to the deed. If she doesn't follow your direction cancel the service and send her on her way with just transport money.

Those are my basic rules JustTK.

Since I've been implementing those rules I have not had anything stolen.

And where did I say I could care less? I believe what I said is I don't care what a chicas career outside of being a puta is. That was me responding to Elvis. And I don't care what their careers are. The best service providers are the ones whose career is being a full time puta.

Anyone can feel free to use my Monger Safety Rules. Who knows maybe they will help save someone's life or at the very least save someone's belongings from getting stolen.

-Gabacho.

[JustTK]

No it wasn't at a airbnb it was at my actual real apartment in Santo Domingo and it was a girl I had known for like 6 months. But since then I have implemented new rules such as a zero tolerance alcohol policy.

I don't care if she is a phycology teacher or a lawyer or a doctor, that is completely irrelevant. What matters is that she is attractive, has a vagina, and provides a satisfying service (preferably without a rubber). I could care less if she was a nurse or if she was a homeless person selling coffee in the park to pay her daily hotel fee.

I assume the rules are for you and no one else, LOL. After all, I doubt the girls are going to have a few drinks and then decide to rob you.

I thought you were explaining that you couldn't care less? But you wrote you could. So please make up your mind.

[Gabacho]

Isn't this how you got robbed? Bringing multiple women to an Airbnb?

If a guy is happy seeing the typical hooker types, you do not need business cards. The issue is when you go to smaller cities there is often not that many women in the P4P arena, and you need to come up with a different approach to expand your pool of women, and it is hard to get a woman alone and just talk to her.

When I got a Colombian woman one on one, I rarely had any issue selling her on a sugar baby concept. Business cards are a way to get to that one on one interview. Unlike with hookers, selling civilian girls on the sugar baby concept is a bit difficult as you are dealing with how the women feel about themselves.

So yeah, you do not have to do business cards if your goal is just getting laid by just anyone. The sugar baby / sugar daddy thing is more socially acceptable and opens doors to women that are off limits otherwise. When I was in Colombia, I saw a teacher, law student, medical student, administrator, nurse, nurse's aide, cam girl, engineer, engineering students, entrepreneur, professional translator, beauty queens, government employees, daughter of a neurosurgeon, and a phys ed teacher among others. You are not going to find women like this at strip clubs or walking the streets.

No it wasn't at a airbnb it was at my actual real apartment in Santo Domingo and it was a girl I had known for like 6 months. But since then I have implemented new rules such as a zero tolerance alcohol policy and keeping track of all my belongings and not leaving anyone alone in my place among other rules and I haven't had another incident since then and that was in January 2023 well over a year ago.

Also I didn't say to have 2 girls in his airbnb at the same time I said to have one that he knows introduce him to her friends then the other one can just bring her to the airbnb or just give him her WhatsApp number and he can take over from there, she doesn't have to stick around while he bangs the friend.

And also why does it matter what their career is??

I don't care if she is a phycology teacher or a lawyer or a doctor, that is completely irrelevant. What matters is that she is attractive, has a vagina, and provides a satisfying service (preferably without a rubber). As long as she checks all those boxes I could care less if she was a nurse or if she was a homeless person selling coffee in the park to pay her daily hotel fee.

It's not like I'm looking to get married LOL.