Lisbon

[Mongerer88]

Thank you Mongerer88 for the reports on Sara and Rebeca. I'm going over for a very short trip soon and Rebeca Diniz is certainly on my list. Its hard to believe how someone can have so many positive reviews in a relative short period of time! Out of curiosity, was there anything about her incall location which put you off, or do you prefer outcalls? (I prefer outcalls myself, but a 50 difference in rate gives me a bit of a decision to make).

You clearly like Sara, but her reviews on the local board have been mixed over time as you've previously mentioned. However, the last report was 3 years ago. A fairy experienced reviewer on the uk board also wasn't that enthused with her when he saw her, but that too was around 3 years ago.

I prefer outcall for anything other than 30 minute sessions. I like to comfortably go to the bathroom when I want.

I really thought that Sara was prettier this time than in years past. New hairstyle, weight loss, and who knows, she might have gotten a few things tweaked cosmetically. I had no complaints on her looks. The only disappointment was anything anal being firmly off the menu.

I would have preferred to have tried Joana, but EP is unpredictable. A Canadian reviewer just did some excellent Lisbon reviews on a local Canadian review board, and he really liked Joana Montenegro. Joana and Rebeca Diniz have a way of making every customer happy.

[Emeli67]

Thank you very much Mongerer88, I have to try Rebecca also.

A couple of reports of mine from a recent trip.

The highlight of my trip was Rebeca Diniz, who goes by Becky.

I wish of course that I could post a link.

But she has not run an ad for a good long time.

The good news is that she is accepting new customers who contact her via WhatsApp. She just doesn't run an ad because she is getting plenty of business from regulars and referrals.

I will post a link when she runs a new ad, but anyone is welcome to PM me here for contact information.

I got intrigued when she got about ten reviews on the local board that were all 9's and 10's out of 10.

That is unheard of on the local board, which has more negativism than most review boards.

She deserves those high marks. She is a tremendous provider...

[Harry1217]

Thank you Mongerer88 for the reports on Sara and Rebeca. I'm going over for a very short trip soon and Rebeca Diniz is certainly on my list. Its hard to believe how someone can have so many positive reviews in a relative short period of time! Out of curiosity, was there anything about her incall location which put you off, or do you prefer outcalls? (I prefer outcalls myself, but a 50 difference in rate gives me a bit of a decision to make).

You clearly like Sara, but her reviews on the local board have been mixed over time as you've previously mentioned. However, the last report was 3 years ago. A fairy experienced reviewer on the uk board also wasn't that enthused with her when he saw her, but that too was around 3 years ago.

[Mongerer88]

Here is my fourth review of Sara Valente.

https://www.apartadox.com/es/escort-...a-valente-2534

https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/

I was supposed to see Joana Montenegro, who gets so many great reviews on so many different review boards, including for many of my favorite session activities.

But such is life with Escort Privada. They had confirmed Joana, but the night before the afternoon appointment, I was informed that Joana would not be able to leave her "civilian" job to do the afternoon session. Among the suggested alternatives was Sara Valente, who is one of my favorites. All but one of my sessions with Sara have been late morning or early afternoon sessions. When Sara has a day off from her "civilian job" she makes herself available and she actually shows up on time. She is one of the most, if not the most, dependable ladies at EP. If she says she will be there, she will be there.

I am glad I saw her again. It was one of the better sessions I have had with her.

I genuinely thought she looked better this time than any of the other times I have seen her.

She is wearing her hair differently, and it really compliments her face. I find her pretty. I know many other reviewers do not, but as I said, I thought she was facially prettier this time than the other times I have seen her. She is likely 30 or so. I first saw her eight or so years ago, and she was early 20's then.

She is slimmer and more athletic in build than before, as a recent review indicates. But the breasts are still large. In fact the breasts (and body) are exactly as depicted in the Apartadox as linked above. Even the slightly elongated areolas. The combination of a slight lift procedure and her weight loss eliminated any hint of breast stretch marks that some reviewers long ago complained about. To me, they are simply great breasts.

She is perfectly fluent in English and friendly. She is more self-confident than she was years ago, and talks more than she did the first time I saw her.

All the standard GFE activities are performed, kissing, DATY, vaginal digits, and of course BBBJ.

She in fact does the best BBBJ of any provider I have ever been with. If a nuclear war were to start and we all knew we had 15 minutes before The End, my wish would be to spend those 15 minutes getting oral sex from Sara Valente. Of course that probably wouldn't be how she would want to spend her last 15 minutes. She understands the penis and where to use her mouth and hands and how much saliva to use and how pressure to apply. I am so tired of getting bad oral from silly ladies who watch porn and think it matters how much they deep throat. Half the goddamn reason that porn shows that is it keeps the male porn actor from cumming before the filming time is finished since he can't feel anything while deep throating occurs. Sorry I digressed, but Sara is the best in the world at doing oral in my opinion. She knows how to do it.

I had a 1. 5 hour session with her and the first cum was vaginal doggie style (she is very tight), and the second cum was from her excellent BBBJ / hand job.

She likes sex and said she came from a toy. She uses a condom on the sex toy, which is of course fine with me.

I had a great time with her as always and highly recommend her.

Now for the negatives, which is really negatives of EP rather than Sara.

Anal sex and anal play were not available with Sara. No big deal.

There have been sessions I had with her where those were available (she seemed to not remember that, which is fine since I naturally remember her more than she remembers me). Each time I have seen her, less anal activities have been available.

So really, they should take anything anal related off her ad.

She declined any interest in fetish or BDSM related activities when I asked. That is fine since I had a wonderful time with her. But her Apartadox ad occasionally appears on the BDSM section of Apartadox. I don't know why.

This is not the first time I have seen this happen. In Porto I saw a lady from EP whose ad had full-fledged fetish outfits. I asked about those activities and I could tell she was completely inexperienced in those endeavors so I didn't pursue it. She said she loved the photo shoot and thought it was fun. I guess the thought that the pictures might be indicative of service offerings does not always occur to EP and some of the ladies. Same with the extras featured in the EP ads.

So reviews are very important and I thank everyone for their reviews. A very good recent review indicated that Marcela Moniz of EP enthusiastically accepted a hand spanking and enjoyed anal sex. If those activities are desired, that review tells us more than any EP or Apartadox ads. Don't expect these activities from Sara. Sara excels at what she excels at.

And don't get your heart set too much on seeing a particular provider at EP. Just make a list of the best reviewed ladies and choose from them with the realization that last minute changes might well occur. Sara incidentally does a lot of EP threesomes and confirmed that Joana Montenegro is an excellent provider.

EP has its good and bad points. We just have to accept that, pay more attention to trusted reviews than to their ads, and be happy with what we get.

The takeaway is that I continue to highly recommend Sara Valente and had a great time.

[Mongerer88]

A couple of reports of mine from a recent trip.

The highlight of my trip was Rebeca Diniz, who goes by Becky.

I wish of course that I could post a link.

But she has not run an ad for a good long time.

The good news is that she is accepting new customers who contact her via WhatsApp. She just doesn't run an ad because she is getting plenty of business from regulars and referrals.

I will post a link when she runs a new ad, but anyone is welcome to PM me here for contact information.

I got intrigued when she got about ten reviews on the local board that were all 9's and 10's out of 10.

That is unheard of on the local board, which has more negativism than most review boards.

She deserves those high marks. She is a tremendous provider.

I had contacted her several months before my trip, and instead of blowing me off like most providers do when I contact them well in advance, she accepted a booking and put it in her calendar. She is very prompt and responsive to messages, and she speaks and writes fluent English. She contacted me a week before, then a day before the appointment, to reconfirm.

The price for a 1. 5 hour outcall was 300 euros. I believe she has a lower price for incall. I met her in the hotel lobby and she communicated her travel progress.

The professionalism alone would be sufficient to give me an erection, but her looks and body and performance were just as good.

She is part Portuguese and part African. Skin is dark like a Brazilian, but she isn't a Brazilian. Long curly hair with the prominent nose of a Portuguese lady. I found her facially pretty in an exotic way. The usual caveat that Portuguese and African women are not beautiful if your ideal of beauty is a Scandinavian blonde with a narrow, elongated nose.

Relatively large natural breasts and a curvy bottom. No stomach fat. I am guessing mid to late 20's for age but I didn't ask. Dark skinned ladies age well and it is hard to guess their age.

Now for the session information.

I have the bad habit of not starting with kissing, given my affinity for other female body parts, but she wanted to make sure I knew that she offers that, so I soon did the more traditional GFE start with her. I realize that my reviews can be awkward for those into more normal activities.

There wasn't anything off limits. BBBJ, DATY, vaginal and anal digits (with lube of course). BBBJ has great technique, including good use of hands. She is fun loving and fetish friendly (light spanking at least, give and / or receive). I am pretty sure that anal is usually available, but you should have course ask. For whatever reason, both of my cums were vaginal doggie style. She was tight and inviting and the view was great. She was okay with me using the condoms I brought, but I used her's for one of the cums and they were very good, thin ones.

She meets that elusive category of a lady who clearly likes sex. I asked her to bring a toy, and she came once with that, and said she came once from the long DATY portion of the session.

No fake moaning or anything irritating like that. She knows when to be quiet and when to talk. She is clearly intelligent and interesting and carried a great conversation in English. The time absolutely flew by.

I am so happy I actually got to see the lady the always unhappy guys on the local board actually like and rave about.

She also gets a very high recommendation from me. The perfect girl for an English speaking tourist to see for a taste of Portugal and Africa.

[ExExpatriate]

SinnerDeeds: I'm glad you managed one good encounter. And thanks for reporting on Mara Freitas. The locals jumped to the conclusion that the Freitas girls were the rebranded Simoes girls. They must be dead wrong, since your report is day to night from theirs.

FranziSkore: I urge you to contact Patricia Navarro now. She is exactly what you want (or very nearly so), and asks only 120/ h. However, she is very popular, so getting on her schedule requires advance planning. The sooner you ask, the better your chances.

To expand your options, look at Eller Rocha, Mel Pires and Eva Sanchez (all three on Apartadox).

[SinnerDeeds]

Firstly, a big thanks to ExExpatriate and Mongerer88 for their prompt and efficient help in figuring out the Lisbon mongering scene. As I was going to be in Lisbon for only 3 days and that too for business, I reached out to both of these brothers and they helped without hesitation. Especially the little little tips from ExExpatriate not only saved time and energy but also from possible scams and disappointments as I knew what to expect.

The report is from the Easter week so a little late in writing this. Before reaching Lisbon, I had gone through about 20-30 recent pages on this thread before reaching Lisbon and coupled with the advice by these fellow brothers, I could narrow down the list to the following ladies as best / top options:

Flora Neves, Irina Melo, Soraia Albuquerque, Bela Soares, Marta Castro, Eva Branco, Adriana Santos, Joana Montenegro. (a few more suggestions dropped as they didn't fit my type much).

I was also advised to message them as much in advance as possible but work kept me busy so I could only message them once I reached Lisbon. I was there on Wed, Thu, Fri and left Saturday morning. I had messaged almost all of these ladies the very evening I arrived (for meeting next day). However, it was probably my really bad luck due to easter holiday earlier as Flora (my top choice) replied that she isn't available until Monday; Bela said Saturday or later; Irina Melo never replied; Eva initially said she can meet Friday but later bailed, Soraia replied to few initial messages but on the exact message trying to fix the time and date of meet, she ghosted too; similar stories with others as well though I don't remember the exact specifics, and with some replies, the timing just clashed with my business. Flora and Bela were really a sweetheart on the texts though and would've loved to meet them in person. Almost all of them who replied suggested a friend or friends instead, LOL.

This kept happening over Wed and Thu so I made up my mind that I HAD to meet someone. Now I know that Freitas chicks have been advised on the forum to be avoided but I think Bela or someone suggested Mara Freitas from EP and although I initially hesitated in calling her, she was the only one prompt in replying and available and open to multiple 'opportunities', DFK, BBBJ, CIM and probably everything except anal. So decided to call her for outcall for 150/ h. She initially said she can reach by 9:30 but later said traffic showing more so 10. I was chilling at my airbnb so I was fine with it. She finally only arrived at around 10:30 and considering the prior warnings about punctuality in Lisbon, I think she made it somewhat on time, LOL.

Now gentlemen, I don't have top performers like Flora or Irina etc. To compare Mara with, so don't be harsh on me if you disagree with my FR or have a bad experience with her. But from her very arrival, Mara was all smiling and sweet. Although language was a bit of a barrier as she didn't speak much english, but it wasn't much difficult to manage for an hour. In the looks department, she looked quite fine to me. Seemed decently tall, about 170-172 cms I guess; ginger-brown hair, pale white skin (which I like), pretty eyes and smile, slender but with curves in right places which I discovered properly later. We both washed up and proceeded to bed. She put on some nice music, dim the lights, and started seductively dancing around me. Grabbed my face, leaned in and started gently kissing which soon turned to DFK. She was setting the mood right. We quickly undressed and continued kissing and exploring each other's body. Grabbed her handful titties and sucked them nicely. After a while, she pushed me on the bed, came on top and pulled my pants down, kissed the whole body first, and then proceeded to give a really nice and sloppy BBBJ. Paid full attention to balls as well and at no point it felt rushed. After a satisfying BJ, I asked her whether she's okay with DATY and she said yes. So fed on her juicy pussy to my heart's content and after a while climbed up to put her mouth back around my Johnny. Later asked her to put on the protection and she climbed on top. She was quite good in cowgirl and I could run my hands all over her slender and pretty body. Changed to missionary and a few variations there and came panting heavily.

After the first round, we cuddled in bed and made the best use of google translate but she joked that she could understand my English, just that she needs translator to respond properly. She mentioned that she's around 25 (EP profile says 19 LOL), has two kids, and separated. Has a day job at some Nail Salon or something. I also asked that she has 'anal' for 50 extra mentioned on her profile so does she actually do it, and she said no, everyone just writes it on the profile but don't actually do it. Anyway, I was fine with it. I asked her if she wants to go for another round, to which she smilingly said yes. Although she used translator to mention that we have about 20 minutes left so we should get started now. I quickly cleaned up and second round started in similar fashion. Same DFK, same BJ and I was hard surprisingly sooner than I thought. It was going good and I had a great view of her pale ass in doggy when suddenly an alarm went off in her phone and she said only 5 minutes left. Damn. That suddenly threw me off and while I was about to cum earlier, it just stopped. Continued in doggy for a few minutes but then she again mentioned 2 minutes left, and I was like I would be fucking done before that if only you stop mentioning time or putting pressure on me like that. LOL.

Anyway, I asked her to blow me again and she did it enthusiastically, putting her tongue out in anticipation. But realising it wouldn't be easy now, I 'took matters in my own hand' and finished in her mouth.

Overall it was a satisfactory experience, and she definitely had a warm vibe and put in full effort and showed involvement. It didn't feel mechanical or rushed at any point, except for the last part of course which was very unexpected LOL. Another couple of things I must mention which didn't matter to me but might matter to others is that she had a see-section scar on lower abdomen (which is obviously edited in the EP pics) and probably shaves her body (especially thighs) instead of waxing them which makes the skin not as smooth as is the case when women wax.

Hope this report helps others, and I hope to return to Lisbon soon to try out the other top delicacies next time.

P.S. - I was also in touch with one Bianca Brandao (https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-...a-brandao-6645 https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...andao/412702/# https://mulheresvip.net/en/escort/lisbon/bianca-brandao) who declined to come to airbnb but was open to hotel or incall. Quoted quite high to be honest 200/ h but has no reviews surprisingly, that's why didn't take her. But she resembles Kate Winslet and looks so fucking beautiful. How come no one has tapped that if she's real. Can any bro shed light on if she's real? I might visit Lisbon just to meet her if she's genuine. LOL.

Cheers mates!

Sinner.

[FranziSkore]

Hola amigos gentlemen,

I'm from Spain and will stay just this long weekend (30 --3) in Lisbon. Newby here. I like that this forum seems useful, serious and respectful to both members and ladies. Brilliant for you. I've been doing some homework reading references and with ads, quite a lot options, sometimes overwhelming. Had some bad experiences as most of us: fake photos, different girls, scams, bad attitude etc. And specially for me is a bummer, in my only few holidays get furious and bitter. So I decided to do my best to avoid it this time!!

I see an average good glamorous level.

For me is primordial:

- Incall and no more than 150 eu. And 80-120 eu much better).

- Friendly GFE especially FKissing, smiling and attitude in giving AND receiving pleasure (cum. Fingering and cunni, the most effective) , passionate.

- BJ. Preferible natural. Second round-extra ball 2 x 1 h at least.

- Incall and no more than 150 eu (. 120 eu much better).

- Tittyfuck, busty enough for it, but not oversized, some silicone is ok too, well proportioned.

- Speaking good-basic Spanish or English.

Desirable:

- Long black hair- Tanned, bikini marks are funny too, soft skin.

- Brave pointy nipples.

- Sporty- 30 min option.

And I'm amazed that can be the Brazilian paradise. So maybe my first kind of ladies would be that, long black hair, curvy. Not easy to find anywhere, quite different and pricey.

My ideas:

Patricia Navarro - Reviews and pics top. +30 is OK too. They told she is in Porto some days maybe?

Evely Clifford / Melissa onñwhy found a few reviews, pics are crazy. Any info about her. Please.

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...tina-brazilian

Gaby / Baby Andrade. Anal queen. Never tried, maybe my deflowering. Apart. Pics are superbLORENA PAIVA -* pics and 2 ref*++ can't find if she does incall. Or pricesSOLANGE - 6 ++refs in EuroGirlScorts-those nips!

Isis -/ Schultz-* 2* ++ refs in EuroGS* https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/isis/464288/.

Other, but less appealing to my eyes: Anita

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...ta/352005/BABI https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...i/151654/SARAH https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...st=47zm2whitey but natural and good reviews in GFE.

Some webs doesn't not detail prices or incall / outcall or services-* one can only text directly to the girl to know?

Any opinions or suggestion for other trustable girl are very welcome. Will try to meet two.

Well, sorry if too much text and asking, but as I say for my is very important, no more bad experiences, I'm a modest poor guy.

Have a nice day! Would like to contact the girls with some anticipation.

Salud!

[ExExpatriate]

That is the other angle, and regular observers of the local board should notice their frustration about it. The guys who want a Portuguese, college age girl are keenly aware that they must go to the expense of getting a room on top of the one hour call girl bill. A lot of them resent it.

While there are Portuguese women working incall -- tuga women certainly aren't rare -- the vast majority are Brazilian. By contrast, most of EP's roster at any given time is Portuguese. Compounding that, at least four of the currently active independent escorts, incall or outcall, who are Portuguese are also ex-EP girls.

If you want young and European, at any given time the majority of the choices in Lisbon are on the EP roster. That tends to simplify things.

EP has changed somewhat. It used to be there were rarely Brazilians with the agency. These last few years have seen them become a constant presence, if still a minority one. I don't know if the overall quality has declined, however. It seems to me their lemons have always outnumbered their stars and good workers put together.

The reports one gets about SA certainly make it a competitor for EP in some respects. That said, it wasn't that long ago that EP's roster was much smaller than it is today. Ditto for all the photo-verified ad sites. My own take is the overall scene is about what it has been this last decade in terms of finding quality, but the numbers have grown.

Because EP marketed itself as the standard for young Portuguese girls who do outcalls which is what many foreigners are looking for. Even today, its hard to find new young Portuguese girls in the Lisbon area, who are available to outcalls, that aren't immediately under EP wing.

In the past, several of them were actual college girls who did this on the side or just girls who didn't cycle 5-6 guys everyday (they were busy / had jobs on the side / quickly found patrons) while that's really what most girls on apartado / portal / massagens do, and the vast majority of them are Brazilians (some of them don't even like leaving their apartment where they feel safe).

Its a completely different market. EP is probably shit now (haven't really fucked any of these girls), there's too much tourism, not enough Portuguese girls, and since 2017/2018 online dating went crazy and Lisbon tourism x5 in size, its much much easier for a girl who wants to find some guys to support them financially through these tools / networking than it was in the past.

[Harry1217]

Arguing is indeed a waste of time, but highlighting clearly inaccurate / misleading comments is a necessity.

What I would say to others here is don't think the going rate for a main ad escort incall is 150/ hr. What is actually being reported on the local board suggests that 150 is not the norm. Plenty of ladies are offering incalls at 100-120/hr.

Tourist taxes is potential issue that we've discussed before. But it won't be all ladies who slap that on you, and we've also previously discussed strategies to mitigate that, namely get a local sim and communicate in Portuguese on WhatsApp!

[ExExpatriate]

Arguing on the internet is a waste of time, for all the usual reasons. That wasn't aimed at Harry, but at the people who would read Harry.

So, what I say to everyone else is if you go to Lisbon with the idea that the going incall rate for a photo-verified, main ad site escort is 100/ h and stubbornly stick to that idea, you'll come away frustrated and thinking very nearly everyone you might want to see is slapping a tourist tax on you. If you are like me, and resent it when you think someone is gouging you, then you'll waste a lot of time before you realize the truth of it.

[JoeSeed]

I just can't understand why so many posts are spent dealing with the virtues and sins of the Escort Privada ladies. As if that was the only place where meetings with Lisbon escorts could be found!...

Because EP marketed itself as the standard for young Portuguese girls who do outcalls which is what many foreigners are looking for. Even today, its hard to find new young Portuguese girls in the Lisbon area, who are available to outcalls, that aren't immediately under EP wing.

In the past, several of them were actual college girls who did this on the side or just girls who didn't cycle 5-6 guys everyday (they were busy / had jobs on the side / quickly found patrons) while that's really what most girls on apartado / portal / massagens do, and the vast majority of them are Brazilians (some of them don't even like leaving their apartment where they feel safe).

Its a completely different market. EP is probably shit now (haven't really fucked any of these girls), there's too much tourism, not enough Portuguese girls, and since 2017/2018 online dating went crazy and Lisbon tourism x5 in size, its much much easier for a girl who wants to find some guys to support them financially through these tools / networking than it was in the past.

[Harry1217]

Highly inaccurate and a classic case of statistical fallacy. You've even used the word 'objective' which is completely the opposite of the basis of your assertion. What you've laid out couldn't be more subjective if you tried your hardest.

Essentially, you've referenced a random few ladies who happen to be charging 150/ h and used that to say 150 is the norm (you've actually backtracked a little and do now refer to a going rate of "120-150" but even that is somewhat inaccurate).

As for the local board being "riddled with members routinely complaining most are charging 150/ h" - again this paints a misleading picture as it takes no account of the many ladies charging less than 150 who get no mention within those comments.

Specifically, you say that some ladies are still at 100, but as a rule they are over 40. You also say that I must be including the unverified and street walker reports to make my "claim" accurately. Both comments are inaccurate. However, rather than these subjective comments, supported by random selections, let's be objective. I've just had a browse of the last 15 ladies reported on the Lisbon certified / verified section, all with reports in 2023 (i.e. no random selections, no subjective comments about what people are / aren't saying, and no street walkers or unverified ladies). These are the results:

- 2 ladies at 60 for 30 minutes.

- 2 ladies at 70 for 30 minutes.

- 1 lady at 80 for 30 minutes.

- 1 lady at 90/ h.

- 4 ladies at 100/ h.

- 3 ladies at 120/ h.

- 1 lady at 140/ h.

- 1 lady at 170/ h.

Upon further delving into the 5 meets that were for 30 minutes, 3 of those are at 120/ h, with one at 140/ h and another at 150/ h.

Overall, therefore, only 2/15 ladies are at 150 or higher. 11/15 ladies are at 90-120/ h. This isn't just a few ladies, or randomly selecting whoever happens to be in my head - it's an objective analysis of a good number of the most recent verified meets. You even referenced age and that the lower rates are for ladies over 40; untrue as only 2/15 ladies here are 40+. 13/15 ladies are early 20's to early 30's. Overall, the reality is totally at odds with your assertion that rates are "leaning pretty clearly to 150" and that it's only over 40's offering lower rates.

In terms of "preferences and sometimes circumstantial" reasons for wanting to do an incall over a meet in your hotel room, as I've said more than once before there is no reason for me personally to have an incall if the lady does outcalls, either by preference or circumstance. I'd only consider incalls where the lady does not do outcalls or I didn't want to pay the extra fee.

Wrong on prices. That is an objective point, not a matter of opinion. Admittedly, there are a few well-regarded ladies still charging 100/ h, but even 120/ h is becoming less common. The going rate is really 120-150, and leaning pretty clearly to 150.

To say the local board indicates anything else isn't accurate, given that it is riddled with members routinely complaining about how the ladies they want to fuck the most are charging 150/ h.

Just off the cuff. Patricia Navarro? 120. Eller? 150. Jennifer PT just moved up to 150. Kelly Morais is above 150. Natalia Brandt, 120 last time I checked. Isis Lisboa, 150. Aurora Vaz, 150. Luna Cardoso, 150. Out in Cascais, literally the only well-ranked woman that might be charging under 150 is Veronica Franco. Need I go on?

There are some still at 100, but as a rule they are over 40. We don't get asked about the 40 to 50-something group here much. The idea that 100/h is the going rate in Lisbon is so 2019.

So when most of the incall ladies I recommend to people are charging 150, yeah, it's fair to say EP is comparable in terms of price. To say the "vast majority" -- well, you must be roping in the low scoring, unverified and street walker reports to make that claim accurately. I doubt anyone on this forum wants to know about those categories.

As for the benefits of having a nice hotel room and being able to stay there and wait in comfort, as I have said many, many times, there are reasons to prefer a call girl to incall. Those are preferences and sometimes circumstantial. I go both routes, depending on circumstances.

[ExExpatriate]

Wrong on prices. That is an objective point, not a matter of opinion. Admittedly, there are a few well-regarded ladies still charging 100/ h, but even 120/ h is becoming less common. The going rate is really 120-150, and leaning pretty clearly to 150.

To say the local board indicates anything else isn't accurate, given that it is riddled with members routinely complaining about how the ladies they want to fuck the most are charging 150/ h.

Just off the cuff. Patricia Navarro? 120. Eller? 150. Jennifer PT just moved up to 150. Kelly Morais is above 150. Natalia Brandt, 120 last time I checked. Isis Lisboa, 150. Aurora Vaz, 150. Luna Cardoso, 150. Out in Cascais, literally the only well-ranked woman that might be charging under 150 is Veronica Franco. Need I go on?

There are some still at 100, but as a rule they are over 40. We don't get asked about the 40 to 50-something group here much. The idea that 100/h is the going rate in Lisbon is so 2019.

So when most of the incall ladies I recommend to people are charging 150, yeah, it's fair to say EP is comparable in terms of price. To say the "vast majority" -- well, you must be roping in the low scoring, unverified and street walker reports to make that claim accurately. I doubt anyone on this forum wants to know about those categories.

As for the benefits of having a nice hotel room and being able to stay there and wait in comfort, as I have said many, many times, there are reasons to prefer a call girl to incall. Those are preferences and sometimes circumstantial. I go both routes, depending on circumstances.

I'd say that the pleasantness and ambience of a good quality hotel room clearly trumps most incall settings. From what I've seen reported, incall rooms are sometimes cramped and bathroom facilities poor. Having the meet in my hotel room really does make for a better experience for me. It also puts my mind at rest regarding cleanliness of linen, towels etc.

Regarding EP prices being comparable to incall prices, they aren't; the vast majority of incall prices being reported on the local board are 100-120 per hour, compared to 150 for EP. Personally, I'd rather pay that bit more to be in my hotel room, but a 30-50 difference isn't negligible. There is of course the possibility of being hit with the foreigner tax when requesting incall prices, which may bring them in line with EP outcall!

[Harry1217]

I'd say that the pleasantness and ambience of a good quality hotel room clearly trumps most incall settings. From what I've seen reported, incall rooms are sometimes cramped and bathroom facilities poor. Having the meet in my hotel room really does make for a better experience for me. It also puts my mind at rest regarding cleanliness of linen, towels etc.

Regarding EP prices being comparable to incall prices, they aren't; the vast majority of incall prices being reported on the local board are 100-120 per hour, compared to 150 for EP. Personally, I'd rather pay that bit more to be in my hotel room, but a 30-50 difference isn't negligible. There is of course the possibility of being hit with the foreigner tax when requesting incall prices, which may bring them in line with EP outcall!

I mostly agree, Kama. I always want to bring up incall, and ask if it's an option.

But I think for a lot of patrons and lurkers to this particular forum, they either need a call girl specifically or don't realize just how easy and pleasant the incall scene in Lisbon is (especially if you are already in central Lisbon). Plus, a visitor already has a hotel room, and these days EP prices are comparable to incall.

If I still lived in Lisbon, I would never use EP. And when I visit, I always mix EP with incall, as circumstances dictate.