Lisbon

[ExExpatriate]

SinnerDeeds: I'm glad you managed one good encounter. And thanks for reporting on Mara Freitas. The locals jumped to the conclusion that the Freitas girls were the rebranded Simoes girls. They must be dead wrong, since your report is day to night from theirs.

FranziSkore: I urge you to contact Patricia Navarro now. She is exactly what you want (or very nearly so), and asks only 120/ h. However, she is very popular, so getting on her schedule requires advance planning. The sooner you ask, the better your chances.

To expand your options, look at Eller Rocha, Mel Pires and Eva Sanchez (all three on Apartadox).

[SinnerDeeds]

Firstly, a big thanks to ExExpatriate and Mongerer88 for their prompt and efficient help in figuring out the Lisbon mongering scene. As I was going to be in Lisbon for only 3 days and that too for business, I reached out to both of these brothers and they helped without hesitation. Especially the little little tips from ExExpatriate not only saved time and energy but also from possible scams and disappointments as I knew what to expect.

The report is from the Easter week so a little late in writing this. Before reaching Lisbon, I had gone through about 20-30 recent pages on this thread before reaching Lisbon and coupled with the advice by these fellow brothers, I could narrow down the list to the following ladies as best / top options:

Flora Neves, Irina Melo, Soraia Albuquerque, Bela Soares, Marta Castro, Eva Branco, Adriana Santos, Joana Montenegro. (a few more suggestions dropped as they didn't fit my type much).

I was also advised to message them as much in advance as possible but work kept me busy so I could only message them once I reached Lisbon. I was there on Wed, Thu, Fri and left Saturday morning. I had messaged almost all of these ladies the very evening I arrived (for meeting next day). However, it was probably my really bad luck due to easter holiday earlier as Flora (my top choice) replied that she isn't available until Monday; Bela said Saturday or later; Irina Melo never replied; Eva initially said she can meet Friday but later bailed, Soraia replied to few initial messages but on the exact message trying to fix the time and date of meet, she ghosted too; similar stories with others as well though I don't remember the exact specifics, and with some replies, the timing just clashed with my business. Flora and Bela were really a sweetheart on the texts though and would've loved to meet them in person. Almost all of them who replied suggested a friend or friends instead, LOL.

This kept happening over Wed and Thu so I made up my mind that I HAD to meet someone. Now I know that Freitas chicks have been advised on the forum to be avoided but I think Bela or someone suggested Mara Freitas from EP and although I initially hesitated in calling her, she was the only one prompt in replying and available and open to multiple 'opportunities', DFK, BBBJ, CIM and probably everything except anal. So decided to call her for outcall for 150/ h. She initially said she can reach by 9:30 but later said traffic showing more so 10. I was chilling at my airbnb so I was fine with it. She finally only arrived at around 10:30 and considering the prior warnings about punctuality in Lisbon, I think she made it somewhat on time, LOL.

Now gentlemen, I don't have top performers like Flora or Irina etc. To compare Mara with, so don't be harsh on me if you disagree with my FR or have a bad experience with her. But from her very arrival, Mara was all smiling and sweet. Although language was a bit of a barrier as she didn't speak much english, but it wasn't much difficult to manage for an hour. In the looks department, she looked quite fine to me. Seemed decently tall, about 170-172 cms I guess; ginger-brown hair, pale white skin (which I like), pretty eyes and smile, slender but with curves in right places which I discovered properly later. We both washed up and proceeded to bed. She put on some nice music, dim the lights, and started seductively dancing around me. Grabbed my face, leaned in and started gently kissing which soon turned to DFK. She was setting the mood right. We quickly undressed and continued kissing and exploring each other's body. Grabbed her handful titties and sucked them nicely. After a while, she pushed me on the bed, came on top and pulled my pants down, kissed the whole body first, and then proceeded to give a really nice and sloppy BBBJ. Paid full attention to balls as well and at no point it felt rushed. After a satisfying BJ, I asked her whether she's okay with DATY and she said yes. So fed on her juicy pussy to my heart's content and after a while climbed up to put her mouth back around my Johnny. Later asked her to put on the protection and she climbed on top. She was quite good in cowgirl and I could run my hands all over her slender and pretty body. Changed to missionary and a few variations there and came panting heavily.

After the first round, we cuddled in bed and made the best use of google translate but she joked that she could understand my English, just that she needs translator to respond properly. She mentioned that she's around 25 (EP profile says 19 LOL), has two kids, and separated. Has a day job at some Nail Salon or something. I also asked that she has 'anal' for 50 extra mentioned on her profile so does she actually do it, and she said no, everyone just writes it on the profile but don't actually do it. Anyway, I was fine with it. I asked her if she wants to go for another round, to which she smilingly said yes. Although she used translator to mention that we have about 20 minutes left so we should get started now. I quickly cleaned up and second round started in similar fashion. Same DFK, same BJ and I was hard surprisingly sooner than I thought. It was going good and I had a great view of her pale ass in doggy when suddenly an alarm went off in her phone and she said only 5 minutes left. Damn. That suddenly threw me off and while I was about to cum earlier, it just stopped. Continued in doggy for a few minutes but then she again mentioned 2 minutes left, and I was like I would be fucking done before that if only you stop mentioning time or putting pressure on me like that. LOL.

Anyway, I asked her to blow me again and she did it enthusiastically, putting her tongue out in anticipation. But realising it wouldn't be easy now, I 'took matters in my own hand' and finished in her mouth.

Overall it was a satisfactory experience, and she definitely had a warm vibe and put in full effort and showed involvement. It didn't feel mechanical or rushed at any point, except for the last part of course which was very unexpected LOL. Another couple of things I must mention which didn't matter to me but might matter to others is that she had a see-section scar on lower abdomen (which is obviously edited in the EP pics) and probably shaves her body (especially thighs) instead of waxing them which makes the skin not as smooth as is the case when women wax.

Hope this report helps others, and I hope to return to Lisbon soon to try out the other top delicacies next time.

P.S. - I was also in touch with one Bianca Brandao (https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-...a-brandao-6645 https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...andao/412702/# https://mulheresvip.net/en/escort/lisbon/bianca-brandao) who declined to come to airbnb but was open to hotel or incall. Quoted quite high to be honest 200/ h but has no reviews surprisingly, that's why didn't take her. But she resembles Kate Winslet and looks so fucking beautiful. How come no one has tapped that if she's real. Can any bro shed light on if she's real? I might visit Lisbon just to meet her if she's genuine. LOL.

Cheers mates!

Sinner.

[FranziSkore]

Hola amigos gentlemen,

I'm from Spain and will stay just this long weekend (30 --3) in Lisbon. Newby here. I like that this forum seems useful, serious and respectful to both members and ladies. Brilliant for you. I've been doing some homework reading references and with ads, quite a lot options, sometimes overwhelming. Had some bad experiences as most of us: fake photos, different girls, scams, bad attitude etc. And specially for me is a bummer, in my only few holidays get furious and bitter. So I decided to do my best to avoid it this time!!

I see an average good glamorous level.

For me is primordial:

- Incall and no more than 150 eu. And 80-120 eu much better).

- Friendly GFE especially FKissing, smiling and attitude in giving AND receiving pleasure (cum. Fingering and cunni, the most effective) , passionate.

- BJ. Preferible natural. Second round-extra ball 2 x 1 h at least.

- Incall and no more than 150 eu (. 120 eu much better).

- Tittyfuck, busty enough for it, but not oversized, some silicone is ok too, well proportioned.

- Speaking good-basic Spanish or English.

Desirable:

- Long black hair- Tanned, bikini marks are funny too, soft skin.

- Brave pointy nipples.

- Sporty- 30 min option.

And I'm amazed that can be the Brazilian paradise. So maybe my first kind of ladies would be that, long black hair, curvy. Not easy to find anywhere, quite different and pricey.

My ideas:

Patricia Navarro - Reviews and pics top. +30 is OK too. They told she is in Porto some days maybe?

Evely Clifford / Melissa onñwhy found a few reviews, pics are crazy. Any info about her. Please.

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...tina-brazilian

Gaby / Baby Andrade. Anal queen. Never tried, maybe my deflowering. Apart. Pics are superbLORENA PAIVA -* pics and 2 ref*++ can't find if she does incall. Or pricesSOLANGE - 6 ++refs in EuroGirlScorts-those nips!

Isis -/ Schultz-* 2* ++ refs in EuroGS* https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/isis/464288/.

Other, but less appealing to my eyes: Anita

https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...ta/352005/BABI https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...i/151654/SARAH https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...st=47zm2whitey but natural and good reviews in GFE.

Some webs doesn't not detail prices or incall / outcall or services-* one can only text directly to the girl to know?

Any opinions or suggestion for other trustable girl are very welcome. Will try to meet two.

Well, sorry if too much text and asking, but as I say for my is very important, no more bad experiences, I'm a modest poor guy.

Have a nice day! Would like to contact the girls with some anticipation.

Salud!

[ExExpatriate]

That is the other angle, and regular observers of the local board should notice their frustration about it. The guys who want a Portuguese, college age girl are keenly aware that they must go to the expense of getting a room on top of the one hour call girl bill. A lot of them resent it.

While there are Portuguese women working incall -- tuga women certainly aren't rare -- the vast majority are Brazilian. By contrast, most of EP's roster at any given time is Portuguese. Compounding that, at least four of the currently active independent escorts, incall or outcall, who are Portuguese are also ex-EP girls.

If you want young and European, at any given time the majority of the choices in Lisbon are on the EP roster. That tends to simplify things.

EP has changed somewhat. It used to be there were rarely Brazilians with the agency. These last few years have seen them become a constant presence, if still a minority one. I don't know if the overall quality has declined, however. It seems to me their lemons have always outnumbered their stars and good workers put together.

The reports one gets about SA certainly make it a competitor for EP in some respects. That said, it wasn't that long ago that EP's roster was much smaller than it is today. Ditto for all the photo-verified ad sites. My own take is the overall scene is about what it has been this last decade in terms of finding quality, but the numbers have grown.

Because EP marketed itself as the standard for young Portuguese girls who do outcalls which is what many foreigners are looking for. Even today, its hard to find new young Portuguese girls in the Lisbon area, who are available to outcalls, that aren't immediately under EP wing.

In the past, several of them were actual college girls who did this on the side or just girls who didn't cycle 5-6 guys everyday (they were busy / had jobs on the side / quickly found patrons) while that's really what most girls on apartado / portal / massagens do, and the vast majority of them are Brazilians (some of them don't even like leaving their apartment where they feel safe).

Its a completely different market. EP is probably shit now (haven't really fucked any of these girls), there's too much tourism, not enough Portuguese girls, and since 2017/2018 online dating went crazy and Lisbon tourism x5 in size, its much much easier for a girl who wants to find some guys to support them financially through these tools / networking than it was in the past.

[Harry1217]

Arguing is indeed a waste of time, but highlighting clearly inaccurate / misleading comments is a necessity.

What I would say to others here is don't think the going rate for a main ad escort incall is 150/ hr. What is actually being reported on the local board suggests that 150 is not the norm. Plenty of ladies are offering incalls at 100-120/hr.

Tourist taxes is potential issue that we've discussed before. But it won't be all ladies who slap that on you, and we've also previously discussed strategies to mitigate that, namely get a local sim and communicate in Portuguese on WhatsApp!

[ExExpatriate]

Arguing on the internet is a waste of time, for all the usual reasons. That wasn't aimed at Harry, but at the people who would read Harry.

So, what I say to everyone else is if you go to Lisbon with the idea that the going incall rate for a photo-verified, main ad site escort is 100/ h and stubbornly stick to that idea, you'll come away frustrated and thinking very nearly everyone you might want to see is slapping a tourist tax on you. If you are like me, and resent it when you think someone is gouging you, then you'll waste a lot of time before you realize the truth of it.

[JoeSeed]

I just can't understand why so many posts are spent dealing with the virtues and sins of the Escort Privada ladies. As if that was the only place where meetings with Lisbon escorts could be found!...

Because EP marketed itself as the standard for young Portuguese girls who do outcalls which is what many foreigners are looking for. Even today, its hard to find new young Portuguese girls in the Lisbon area, who are available to outcalls, that aren't immediately under EP wing.

In the past, several of them were actual college girls who did this on the side or just girls who didn't cycle 5-6 guys everyday (they were busy / had jobs on the side / quickly found patrons) while that's really what most girls on apartado / portal / massagens do, and the vast majority of them are Brazilians (some of them don't even like leaving their apartment where they feel safe).

Its a completely different market. EP is probably shit now (haven't really fucked any of these girls), there's too much tourism, not enough Portuguese girls, and since 2017/2018 online dating went crazy and Lisbon tourism x5 in size, its much much easier for a girl who wants to find some guys to support them financially through these tools / networking than it was in the past.

[Harry1217]

Highly inaccurate and a classic case of statistical fallacy. You've even used the word 'objective' which is completely the opposite of the basis of your assertion. What you've laid out couldn't be more subjective if you tried your hardest.

Essentially, you've referenced a random few ladies who happen to be charging 150/ h and used that to say 150 is the norm (you've actually backtracked a little and do now refer to a going rate of "120-150" but even that is somewhat inaccurate).

As for the local board being "riddled with members routinely complaining most are charging 150/ h" - again this paints a misleading picture as it takes no account of the many ladies charging less than 150 who get no mention within those comments.

Specifically, you say that some ladies are still at 100, but as a rule they are over 40. You also say that I must be including the unverified and street walker reports to make my "claim" accurately. Both comments are inaccurate. However, rather than these subjective comments, supported by random selections, let's be objective. I've just had a browse of the last 15 ladies reported on the Lisbon certified / verified section, all with reports in 2023 (i.e. no random selections, no subjective comments about what people are / aren't saying, and no street walkers or unverified ladies). These are the results:

- 2 ladies at 60 for 30 minutes.

- 2 ladies at 70 for 30 minutes.

- 1 lady at 80 for 30 minutes.

- 1 lady at 90/ h.

- 4 ladies at 100/ h.

- 3 ladies at 120/ h.

- 1 lady at 140/ h.

- 1 lady at 170/ h.

Upon further delving into the 5 meets that were for 30 minutes, 3 of those are at 120/ h, with one at 140/ h and another at 150/ h.

Overall, therefore, only 2/15 ladies are at 150 or higher. 11/15 ladies are at 90-120/ h. This isn't just a few ladies, or randomly selecting whoever happens to be in my head - it's an objective analysis of a good number of the most recent verified meets. You even referenced age and that the lower rates are for ladies over 40; untrue as only 2/15 ladies here are 40+. 13/15 ladies are early 20's to early 30's. Overall, the reality is totally at odds with your assertion that rates are "leaning pretty clearly to 150" and that it's only over 40's offering lower rates.

In terms of "preferences and sometimes circumstantial" reasons for wanting to do an incall over a meet in your hotel room, as I've said more than once before there is no reason for me personally to have an incall if the lady does outcalls, either by preference or circumstance. I'd only consider incalls where the lady does not do outcalls or I didn't want to pay the extra fee.

Wrong on prices. That is an objective point, not a matter of opinion. Admittedly, there are a few well-regarded ladies still charging 100/ h, but even 120/ h is becoming less common. The going rate is really 120-150, and leaning pretty clearly to 150.

To say the local board indicates anything else isn't accurate, given that it is riddled with members routinely complaining about how the ladies they want to fuck the most are charging 150/ h.

Just off the cuff. Patricia Navarro? 120. Eller? 150. Jennifer PT just moved up to 150. Kelly Morais is above 150. Natalia Brandt, 120 last time I checked. Isis Lisboa, 150. Aurora Vaz, 150. Luna Cardoso, 150. Out in Cascais, literally the only well-ranked woman that might be charging under 150 is Veronica Franco. Need I go on?

There are some still at 100, but as a rule they are over 40. We don't get asked about the 40 to 50-something group here much. The idea that 100/h is the going rate in Lisbon is so 2019.

So when most of the incall ladies I recommend to people are charging 150, yeah, it's fair to say EP is comparable in terms of price. To say the "vast majority" -- well, you must be roping in the low scoring, unverified and street walker reports to make that claim accurately. I doubt anyone on this forum wants to know about those categories.

As for the benefits of having a nice hotel room and being able to stay there and wait in comfort, as I have said many, many times, there are reasons to prefer a call girl to incall. Those are preferences and sometimes circumstantial. I go both routes, depending on circumstances.

[ExExpatriate]

Wrong on prices. That is an objective point, not a matter of opinion. Admittedly, there are a few well-regarded ladies still charging 100/ h, but even 120/ h is becoming less common. The going rate is really 120-150, and leaning pretty clearly to 150.

To say the local board indicates anything else isn't accurate, given that it is riddled with members routinely complaining about how the ladies they want to fuck the most are charging 150/ h.

Just off the cuff. Patricia Navarro? 120. Eller? 150. Jennifer PT just moved up to 150. Kelly Morais is above 150. Natalia Brandt, 120 last time I checked. Isis Lisboa, 150. Aurora Vaz, 150. Luna Cardoso, 150. Out in Cascais, literally the only well-ranked woman that might be charging under 150 is Veronica Franco. Need I go on?

There are some still at 100, but as a rule they are over 40. We don't get asked about the 40 to 50-something group here much. The idea that 100/h is the going rate in Lisbon is so 2019.

So when most of the incall ladies I recommend to people are charging 150, yeah, it's fair to say EP is comparable in terms of price. To say the "vast majority" -- well, you must be roping in the low scoring, unverified and street walker reports to make that claim accurately. I doubt anyone on this forum wants to know about those categories.

As for the benefits of having a nice hotel room and being able to stay there and wait in comfort, as I have said many, many times, there are reasons to prefer a call girl to incall. Those are preferences and sometimes circumstantial. I go both routes, depending on circumstances.

I'd say that the pleasantness and ambience of a good quality hotel room clearly trumps most incall settings. From what I've seen reported, incall rooms are sometimes cramped and bathroom facilities poor. Having the meet in my hotel room really does make for a better experience for me. It also puts my mind at rest regarding cleanliness of linen, towels etc.

Regarding EP prices being comparable to incall prices, they aren't; the vast majority of incall prices being reported on the local board are 100-120 per hour, compared to 150 for EP. Personally, I'd rather pay that bit more to be in my hotel room, but a 30-50 difference isn't negligible. There is of course the possibility of being hit with the foreigner tax when requesting incall prices, which may bring them in line with EP outcall!

[Harry1217]

I'd say that the pleasantness and ambience of a good quality hotel room clearly trumps most incall settings. From what I've seen reported, incall rooms are sometimes cramped and bathroom facilities poor. Having the meet in my hotel room really does make for a better experience for me. It also puts my mind at rest regarding cleanliness of linen, towels etc.

Regarding EP prices being comparable to incall prices, they aren't; the vast majority of incall prices being reported on the local board are 100-120 per hour, compared to 150 for EP. Personally, I'd rather pay that bit more to be in my hotel room, but a 30-50 difference isn't negligible. There is of course the possibility of being hit with the foreigner tax when requesting incall prices, which may bring them in line with EP outcall!

I mostly agree, Kama. I always want to bring up incall, and ask if it's an option.

But I think for a lot of patrons and lurkers to this particular forum, they either need a call girl specifically or don't realize just how easy and pleasant the incall scene in Lisbon is (especially if you are already in central Lisbon). Plus, a visitor already has a hotel room, and these days EP prices are comparable to incall.

If I still lived in Lisbon, I would never use EP. And when I visit, I always mix EP with incall, as circumstances dictate.

[BgBadB]

Would you contact details for this lady?

I just returned from three days in Portugal. I rented a small studio apartment in Cascais. Before arriving I joined seeking.com. I messaged dozens of women in the Lisbon area. Four met with me through a video chat. I did this to insure that the photos were accurate and also to get some idea of her personality. Of the four I chose one, Luana.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...7-f0108fc87498

I am attaching real, recent and accurate photos. After returning yesterday I watched a few videos featuring Natalia Starr.

https://www.xvideos.com/models/natalia--starr#.

To me, there seemed to be a remarkable similarity between the two women. For a few minutes I was wondering if these videos WERE Luana!

Luana claims to be 25 but I am guessing actually 28. She is 5'7". She says that she doesn't smoke however I did sometimes detect perhaps a slight tobacco odor. She recently arrived in Lisbon from Brazil. She is from Minas Gerais and of Italian ancestry. She speaks only Portuguese however we managed very well using google translate.

Luana arrived at 9:00 pm Monday and remained with me in our apartment until I left at 2:30 pm Thursday. I paid her 1800 euros total.

It was the best sex of my life. Everything was on the menu although obviously vaginal and anal sex must be with a condom. Beyond that it seems like anything goes.

Luana is very new in the sex industry. She is certainly not new to sex but she is new to getting paid for sex. I was her third client. She is a very very nice, sweet, normal young woman. If you do meet her, please be kind and respectful.

[ExExpatriate]

I mostly agree, Kama. I always want to bring up incall, and ask if it's an option.

But I think for a lot of patrons and lurkers to this particular forum, they either need a call girl specifically or don't realize just how easy and pleasant the incall scene in Lisbon is (especially if you are already in central Lisbon). Plus, a visitor already has a hotel room, and these days EP prices are comparable to incall.

If I still lived in Lisbon, I would never use EP. And when I visit, I always mix EP with incall, as circumstances dictate.

I just can't understand why so many posts are spent dealing with the virtues and sins of the Escort Privada ladies. As if that was the only place where meetings with Lisbon escorts could be found!...

Why don't you just try:

https://www.apartadox.com/classifica...isboa-Portugal

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompa...escort-lisboa/

https://docemassagem.com/massagistas/

https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino

https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhantes/Portugal

https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa

[Vodin]

I just can't understand why so many posts are spent dealing with the virtues and sins of the Escort Privada ladies. As if that was the only place where meetings with Lisbon escorts could be found!...

Why don't you just try:

https://www.apartadox.com/classifica...isboa-Portugal

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompa...escort-lisboa/

https://docemassagem.com/massagistas/

https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino

https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhantes/Portugal

https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa

What about https://www.ninfaescorts.com/.

I haven't heard or seen any info on this one but has some girls not on others. Anyone have any exp with that site?

[Kama Leão]

I just can't understand why so many posts are spent dealing with the virtues and sins of the Escort Privada ladies. As if that was the only place where meetings with Lisbon escorts could be found!...

Why don't you just try:

https://www.apartadox.com/classifica...isboa-Portugal

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompa...escort-lisboa/

https://docemassagem.com/massagistas/

https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino

https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhantes/Portugal

https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa

[PER23]

I saw that was being said on the local board recently too.

Valeria has been with EP for more than a year now; her current ad is her third photo essay. Until very recently -- like the last couple of weeks recently -- she was very well reviewed here, on the local board, and (according to Mongerer) on the big US board. The main complaint about her was, if one was made, was that she was closer to 40 than 30. Friendly, attractive, petite, very willing. She is also probably a single mom with a day job, doing this as a side hustle; she is only available from 6 to 9.

But you are now the second person to say she was wigged out on arrival. I never put too much stock in a single outlier against many positives, but yours makes two!

Burnout? She's off her meds or doing some meds to work?

Should have provided more detail on this very brief encounter. To me, she's pretty unattractive and at least 40. Body's decent but her face is extremely sunken and wrinkled. I doubt you would have noticed her socially in the 1990's. She's "quirky" to the point of irritating. Imagine her pausing the BJ every 10 seconds to make goofy faces, come up to kiss you when you've said you don't want to and referring to herself in the third person constantly asking a bunch of dumb questions about whether I like the stop and start blowjob. I actually thought she wouldn't leave when I told her to. She kept asking why as if I need to explain. Her body was cold yet sweating profusely. I think she's high as a kite or medicated. Same difference.

In summary, she's clapped out and a moron. Avoid like the plague.