Seeking Arrangement- SA- in India

[Phil50]

Kudos to Phil and Christmas for putting out such insightful posts.

I have a question / suggestion for Christmas. Why don't you agree to a monthly payment but tell her that it will be paid at the end of the month like the salary. Obviously she will resist and that's when you play the emotional card of her not trusting you.

Cheers.

The allowance part hasn't worked for me in 10 years.

Let's say we agree that we meet 4 times a month, so the monthly allowance will be paid after 2 meets.
Pretty soon, there will be a request for money after the first meet, or beginning of the month and once paid there will be all sorts of reasons for not meeting.
There will be instances where she will turn up and then say she has periods, but it will count as a meet.

[Phil50]

Please elaborate Phil. So what you are saying is that we find the paid members through this fake ID. But if we don't have TG ID or some ID, how are we going to collaborate or communicate?

Count me in for any such efforts towards information sharing and collaboration.

Make a fake female profile on SA. Every one who contacts that profile is a paid member.
They need to be told that we are a group of SD's like them, who wish to collaborate and they can do so by joining this forum. They need not give any info or tg. They can post a question here,
or share their experiences. We don't need their TG. They can share it if they wish to reach out to us privately.

I chat on TG with a few of you, who are all paid members and experienced with Bangalore SA, so we all have something to contribute. We follow the 'bros before working girls' code.

[Christmas Tre]

Kudos to Phil and Christmas for putting out such insightful posts.

I have a question / suggestion for Christmas. Why don't you agree to a monthly payment but tell her that it will be paid at the end of the month like the salary. Obviously she will resist and that's when you play the emotional card of her not trusting you.

While I agree completely with you that paying an advance is almost a certainty for being scammed. On the other hand I would prefer a long term arrangement. Hunting continuously is time consuming and the ROI is abysmal. If I find someone worthy, I would like to stick to her by and large. Any suggestions on how to go about it?

Cheers.

I guess it's all about the balance isn't it? You look at the other extreme. Would a girl have sex with you. Say 3-4 times a month and collect payment later? That's what you're asking and it sounds difficult. We've all probably met enough girls who even ask for payment when they enter the room!

While it sounds difficult. I do agree it is not impossible. Just that the chances of finding such a girl in the current SA crop is difficult.

I've been in some long term relationships. My longest one took over 2 years to reach this level of trust where each side could ask for something without worrying about being paid back.

I recently dumped another LT girl because it was getting boring. I would give her some 20 k a month + some purchases. But she was working in an office and would get home late and our schedules wouldn't match. At the most, I would meet her twice a month. She was on SA briefly and I converted her on Instagram and chat.

The thing is. These kind of girls are rare. I wouldn't mind meeting their kind, but I know that the chances are minimal. In the meantime, I would just do short term. Few of them are on repeat mode because the price and services are right. This suits my busy day. However, if the vibes are right, then these short terms can be converted. There isn't any fixed formula. It just has to have things fall in to place.

Going LT from day 1 is tricky in my opinion. It takes time to learn to trust the devil and his tricks. The good part is, we guys pretty much know all the tricks of the devil, but we struggle to implement caution since our blood flow very quickly diverts south.

As males, our needs and kinks are also varied. Hence, just like a factory, we need to have strong processes to make sure we don't get taken for a ride. One place I regularly get taken for a ride is that the pics often don't resemble the girl or the body is totally different. While VCs kind of eliminate this, they are not always foolproof. Otherwise I feel that having the ability to think rationally, and let a girl go if you sense a scam will keep us ahead of this cat / mouse game.

[Garam Hawa]

Namaskaara.

Bangalore heat was getting me horny & decided to rejoin SA and take a few for the team.

My taste is for the sexy & voluptuous, with classy mannerisms and a beautiful face being the cherries on top.

I always do a paid coffee meet with the ladies to save time, money and mental peace, and managed 3 in the past month:

KindCookie: short, fat, average face and decent to talk to. At first she insisted on long term, but was ready for ST later. Ask was 15-20 k ST. Found the quote overpriced for her.

MysteriousBae: average height, obese, heavy makeup and loud clothes, yaks away loudly nonstop. I was frankly embarrassed and made an excuse to leave early. Her ask was 20-30 k ST. No comments.

SultryBabeBipasha: tall, mature, voluptuous & classy, and probably one of the most beautiful babes I've seen on SA. She already has a couple of LT SDs but said she is open to ST at 30-35 k. Trying to find synergy with timing, but she's always busy. Maybe she didn't like me, who knows?

Still desperate to find gems like Amrapali & Padma in this new Bengaluru. Hope some kind souls will help!

[FunForSandy]

In the last few days we have shared info on a lot of Bangalore profiles, but it is very inadequate considering the number of fakes and scammers.

A lot of PMs here are from non paid members asking for contacts.

SA does nothing against fakes. We have 2 profiles with the same pic, profiles with someone else's Insta pic etc. And SA does nothing.

There is a way to greatly increase sharing of info in this forum, among those who are paid SA members.
I did this years ago in another city, but my IPs were banned by SA and can't lose my current one, if I get banned again.

My idea is. Make a fake girl's profile on SA. There will be messages from 150 men in the first week. Respond to every message with a 'cut-paste' reply, telling them we are
a group of mongers who want to collaborate through this site. All they have to do it log in for free. We don't need their details, or even Tg ID.
Soon the fake profile will be reported and banned, but by then we will have a critical mass of people sharing info. All the new collaborators will be paid members (otherwise they
can't message on SA).

When a 10th pass pimp can put up 3 fake profiles a day, surely we can play the same game better.

Please elaborate Phil. So what you are saying is that we find the paid members through this fake ID. But if we don't have TG ID or some ID, how are we going to collaborate or communicate?

Count me in for any such efforts towards information sharing and collaboration.

[FunForSandy]

Thanks Phil50. You put up your victories as well as defeats with equal insight. I think all of us in this forum owe you a beer. (Virtual or otherwise).

What you list out is the perils of approaching a girl with long term plans and the attempt to get her to trust and be impressed. Unfortunately, girls know this very well as you have mentioned that Jaanu knew she can get money out from guys in SA. This is one of the ways that all of them push for a long term relationship which is unlikely to be exclusive.

Also, these scammers will appear to be genuinely friendly, warm and will not give WG vibes. You are unlikely to be their first, yet they will make it appear that you are. Remember that sex is initially a very emotional thing for women. Once they have been banged by a dozen guys, the emotion goes out and they know that their pussy can be made to function like an ATM machine. (Put something in and money pops out).

Even if one pushes for a regular pay per meet arrangement, you can be sure that somewhere along the line a request for an advance payment will come. As I have mentioned in my previous post, be very wary of this advance because, in all likelyhood a request for an advance is usually a terminal event for the arrangement.

I am currently in a short term relationship with a fantastic girl who I enjoy being with. She has tried very hard to make this a long term arrangement where I pay upfront at the start of the month. I know that if I do this, I will never see her again. She has now relented that I will not do this and meets me now whenever I need her for some excellent sessions. She had put the bait that it will be significantly cheaper if I pay her lumpsum at the beginning of the month, but I prefer paying more for individual meets.

The younger crop will trick you this way because they have 50 guys they can juggle with. The older ones may remain more stable for a long term because they are more mature, have less expenses and less choice in terms of guys.

Kudos to Phil and Christmas for putting out such insightful posts.

I have a question / suggestion for Christmas. Why don't you agree to a monthly payment but tell her that it will be paid at the end of the month like the salary. Obviously she will resist and that's when you play the emotional card of her not trusting you.

While I agree completely with you that paying an advance is almost a certainty for being scammed. On the other hand I would prefer a long term arrangement. Hunting continuously is time consuming and the ROI is abysmal. If I find someone worthy, I would like to stick to her by and large. Any suggestions on how to go about it?

Cheers.

[Christmas Tre]

As many of you are aware, I am fairly experienced on SA and thought I know enough to avoid scams.

It is also an unfortunate part of human nature that when a scammer is flagged, some will take perverse pleasure in contacting that person because they know better than the person getting scammed. Unfortunately I failed to follow my own advice in the case of Jannu (Bangalore) who just scammed me.

I had mentioned that Jaanu had red flags and was slow to respond (another poster confirmed it). After my first casual meet went well, she ghosted (while being online on SA all week). Then, sensing my interest, contacted me for money to pay her rent. I even told other mongers that this is what she was going to do. This is the oldest scam on SA and I said no.
I come from the same part of India as she does, we got talking and she candidly said she lied and needed to make 50 k in a hurry and could do it by scamming people on SA.

Long story short, we met again. It was short as she said she had to leave early. I gave her the money for the date, with a small advance against the next meet.
She ghosted after confirming an hour before the meet that she was leaving and then sending a mocking message 3 hours later asking if I was still waiting.

Learning. Go with your gut. Don't pay advance. Don't chase someone who does not reply. Dont think with your d**k.

Thanks Phil50. You put up your victories as well as defeats with equal insight. I think all of us in this forum owe you a beer. (Virtual or otherwise).

What you list out is the perils of approaching a girl with long term plans and the attempt to get her to trust and be impressed. Unfortunately, girls know this very well as you have mentioned that Jaanu knew she can get money out from guys in SA. This is one of the ways that all of them push for a long term relationship which is unlikely to be exclusive.

Also, these scammers will appear to be genuinely friendly, warm and will not give WG vibes. You are unlikely to be their first, yet they will make it appear that you are. Remember that sex is initially a very emotional thing for women. Once they have been banged by a dozen guys, the emotion goes out and they know that their pussy can be made to function like an ATM machine. (Put something in and money pops out).

Even if one pushes for a regular pay per meet arrangement, you can be sure that somewhere along the line a request for an advance payment will come. As I have mentioned in my previous post, be very wary of this advance because, in all likelyhood a request for an advance is usually a terminal event for the arrangement.

I am currently in a short term relationship with a fantastic girl who I enjoy being with. She has tried very hard to make this a long term arrangement where I pay upfront at the start of the month. I know that if I do this, I will never see her again. She has now relented that I will not do this and meets me now whenever I need her for some excellent sessions. She had put the bait that it will be significantly cheaper if I pay her lumpsum at the beginning of the month, but I prefer paying more for individual meets.

The younger crop will trick you this way because they have 50 guys they can juggle with. The older ones may remain more stable for a long term because they are more mature, have less expenses and less choice in terms of guys.

[Phil50]

In the last few days we have shared info on a lot of Bangalore profiles, but it is very inadequate considering the number of fakes and scammers.

A lot of PMs here are from non paid members asking for contacts.

SA does nothing against fakes. We have 2 profiles with the same pic, profiles with someone else's Insta pic etc. And SA does nothing.

There is a way to greatly increase sharing of info in this forum, among those who are paid SA members.
I did this years ago in another city, but my IPs were banned by SA and can't lose my current one, if I get banned again.

My idea is. Make a fake girl's profile on SA. There will be messages from 150 men in the first week. Respond to every message with a 'cut-paste' reply, telling them we are
a group of mongers who want to collaborate through this site. All they have to do it log in for free. We don't need their details, or even Tg ID.
Soon the fake profile will be reported and banned, but by then we will have a critical mass of people sharing info. All the new collaborators will be paid members (otherwise they
can't message on SA).

When a 10th pass pimp can put up 3 fake profiles a day, surely we can play the same game better.

[Phil50]

As many of you are aware, I am fairly experienced on SA and thought I know enough to avoid scams.

It is also an unfortunate part of human nature that when a scammer is flagged, some will take perverse pleasure in contacting that person because they know better than the person getting scammed. Unfortunately I failed to follow my own advice in the case of Jannu (Bangalore) who just scammed me.

I had mentioned that Jaanu had red flags and was slow to respond (another poster confirmed it). After my first casual meet went well, she ghosted (while being online on SA all week). Then, sensing my interest, contacted me for money to pay her rent. I even told other mongers that this is what she was going to do. This is the oldest scam on SA and I said no.
I come from the same part of India as she does, we got talking and she candidly said she lied and needed to make 50 k in a hurry and could do it by scamming people on SA.

Long story short, we met again. It was short as she said she had to leave early. I gave her the money for the date, with a small advance against the next meet.
She ghosted after confirming an hour before the meet that she was leaving and then sending a mocking message 3 hours later asking if I was still waiting.

There's no point complaining to SA. At best, they will ban her, she'll move to a new profile and cheat someone else.

It's not possible for one person to be online as long as she is unless there is more than 1 person running the scam from the same account.
If I can get scammed, so can you, It's not about losing a small sum. We all take calculated business risks, its about being made a fool of after helping someone in good faith.
Learning. Go with your gut. Don't pay advance. Don't chase someone who does not reply. Don't think with your d**k.

[FunForSandy]

Cabbage. Asking 25 k. Wouldn't pay more than 5 k for her. Not very friendly or intelligent. Pics are bleh. Open to most things including anal at that price.

Mysteriousmadame:31 why / o. Working in IT. Wants 15 k. Initially thought she looked cute, but she is huuuuugeeee. Can see the fat rolls through her dress. One of the largest I've seen on SA.

Innocententhusiast: 30 k. But something fishy going on. Can't place it. Gives bait and switch vibes. Pics look escorty.

VZP: Bad tempered NE. Claims to be an entomologist. Other bros may have better luck with her.

MysteriousMadam was earlier MysteriousBae if I remember correctly. Looks are a major issue.

VZP never replied to my messages.

Cabbage is alright for me. Short, petite and average looks. But yes 25 is too much. I am yet to negotiate.

[Bhamsookh1]

Recently tried lilith, cheeky gorgeous and shivi.

Neither that great which is my POV. Latter was a WG.

Happy to help with service and pricing.

Don't ask TG and phone numbers.

SA poona scene getting better but still exorbitant prices for the limited quantity and below avg quality you get compared to DEL and CCU.

[Bhamsookh1]

Hola,

If anyone has tried wittybrownchick then please DM me.

Need to know her actual rates and service rating before proceeding.

[Christmas Tre]

Cabbage. Asking 25 k. Wouldn't pay more than 5 k for her. Not very friendly or intelligent. Pics are bleh. Open to most things including anal at that price.

Mysteriousmadame:31 why / o. Working in IT. Wants 15 k. Initially thought she looked cute, but she is huuuuugeeee. Can see the fat rolls through her dress. One of the largest I've seen on SA.

Innocententhusiast: 30 k. But something fishy going on. Can't place it. Gives bait and switch vibes. Pics look escorty.

VZP: Bad tempered NE. Claims to be an entomologist. Other bros may have better luck with her.

[MBrando]

Simple advise without even going to the profile - 40 K for one time meet- Strict No- 40 K monthly allowance can be considered if everything else is good.

Any report / info on this profile?

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...7-f00a2a58fe1a

Chatted with her, moved to TG. Chats were professional. Knows exactly what she is doing. Pics are nice. Asked for 40 k for 6 hours (Seniors, please help with any pointers before I make any mistake.

[Arjunshah1]

Dude, first things first say a polite No for any act you not comfortable with. Explain your reason or make a story of your refusal. Also, keep on dating her, getting to know her better and once both the partners have trust you could indulge in making out sessions as per your comfort levels. From your post, it seems you met her once only and even after a couple of dates; if you still have those blackmailing fears, take a step back. That's what I would do but honestly, if I date a girl for 2 or 3 times and we spend 5 or 6 hours we do tend to get to know about an individual. Sadly, in your case you are a young lad whereas I am 50 plus horny fucker with a bit of experience but know where to draw the line. Yeah, these young chicas can be crazy at times. Have fun.

Regards.

Dev bhai, took your advice and met her 3 more times. Seems like I was being much more cynical when the reality was different. All my meetings after this were non-sexual. Went out for a coffee and a movie. Talking to her made me realize she is just a young girl that doesn't know a lot about the real world. All her kinks come from porn only and she is also a bit hesitant in trying them because saying something and actually doing it are completely different. Had planned to meet her this weekend for a sexual session. Unfortunately, her grandfather died so not sure about when'll we meet next. Thanks for advising and making me not lose out on such a gem. Beer is on me next time you are in Nagpur.