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  1. #13664
    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicman  [View Original Post]
    Then in another occasion she said she barfined her friend so she could go home for a day or two (where? Isaan, of course!). That means she paid out quite a few hundred bahts not even for herself or for her family, but just for a friend (seems a strong friend!)
    It seems these girls are just as gullible with their "friends" as we farang are with them. My married 28 year old girl in Pattaya pawned her ipad for 8000 baht because her friend's boyfriend was in the hospital and they had to pay the hospital. I explained to her that that was not her responsibility. If his family and friends or his girlfriend's family did not help, how and why does she all of a sudden become the savior? Surely, it is because she lives in Europe so when she arrives back in Pattaya they all look at her the same as they look at us, as a walking ATM. What would they have done if she had not been there? I told her that she needed to worry about helping herself and her family because other people are always going to have problems but their problems are not for her to worry about. Because when her money runs out then she is going to be sitting in the same boat as they are.

  2. #13663
    Quote Originally Posted by Azertiefou  [View Original Post]
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  3. #13662

    Different taste but remember you're being played to au

    Hell, I think there's tons of guys with low standards. I sometimes wonder if some of those poor guys really don't know they have a ladyboy instead of a girl until it's too late or until they sober up. I practice some simple rules: look, watch and mind my own business. Different strokes for differnet folks and buyer beware.

    I've been played before so my other rule is no girl ever gets in my pocket. I've been stung for 10, 000bt "loan" etc. I was too nice.

  4. #13661
    Hello,

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  5. #13660
    Quote Originally Posted by Goyave  [View Original Post]
    Again, because those girls don't need much money, and can easily earn good money (by local standards) if not this night, then, it will be tomorrow night (or, they've already earned enough the previous night and can even take several days off with the earnings of only one working day on the P4P market).
    Was once talking to a BG and she said she sends nearly all the earning to the family at home (seems I heard this before, so that sometime she was very short of money in BKK.

    Then in another occasion she said she barfined her friend so she could go home for a day or two (where? Isaan, of course!). That means she paid out quite a few hundred bahts not even for herself or for her family, but just for a friend (seems a strong friend!)

    She works where she can get 3k LT (and ladydrink tips etc)

    I did not want to fuel talks so I did not ask how much she makes in a month but if "only 5 customers" a month (and I doubt) that makes already 15k, quite above the average income (we know, it is an average!)

    Maybe half of it is spent for her own in BKK.

  6. #13659
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Enternational  [View Original Post]
    ... She said that it would only take 9K baht to pay everything then she could stay home in the province with her family and would not have to be out street walking.
    Yes, 9K baht can be enough (by the way, 9K baht is approximately the national average monthly wage in Thailand). But an ex-bar girl or streetwalker would usually need more than that as she is already used to earn many times this amount. In Northeastern Thailand (from where most of the local P4P girls are coming from), an important part of the population is living with much less than that (on average, with half this amount per person, and in the poorest villages, many people are living with about 3000 baht per month, or even less than that!).

  7. #13658
    Quote Originally Posted by Goyave  [View Original Post]
    That's true, but even if they pay "only" 3,500 baht instead of 5,000 bahts (for instance), that's still a very small minority in the Thai male population (who can afford those "superstar girls"), and the price they pay is very likely the real value (of those "superstar girls") on the local market.
    Yes it's more the real value. Just compare that with the tourist spots in BKK.

    High end soapie 3500= 2 hours of sex with pretty girl (considered pretty by asian standards and with symetrical features) including good service where girl caters to man. Also, regular std checkups.

    Tourist scene. 2000+600bf + ST room 300=2900. Bitchy and often not so attractive girl who is not tested for stds. 30 min. Sex with one pop, and girl is rushing service. This whole affair is really only worth about 1500b. It's way overpriced, but there are no shortage of customers. Amazing Thailand

  8. #13657
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Enternational  [View Original Post]
    ... But I, as well, do not understand how they can go out spending all kinds of money drinking with friends and not be inclined to get a nightly income.
    Again, because those girls don't need much money, and can easily earn good money (by local standards) if not this night, then, it will be tomorrow night (or, they've already earned enough the previous night and can even take several days off with the earnings of only one working day on the P4P market).

  9. #13656

    How Much Is Enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Goyave  [View Original Post]
    Guys, what you need to understand is that you can have quite a decent life in Thailand with very little money. The local prostitutes don't need to work much in order to satisfy their needs (actually, when they earn too much money by local standards, most of them spend a great part of the extra money in stupid things,
    A couple of weeks ago I got into a deep conversation with a SW that I picked up. She said that a guy from Bahrain was taking care of her. To her he was old (54. While she is 23) so she really didn't like him and would always pray to Buddha that he finishes soon when they were having sex. He would send her 20K baht / month of his own free will and accord. I asked her much she needed to take care of her family. She said that it would only take 9K baht to pay everything then she could stay home in the province with her family and would not have to be out street walking.

  10. #13655
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Enternational  [View Original Post]
    Most of the girls out in Thailand P4P are looking for farang boyfriends,
    I think you're completely wrong with that statement. However, if your definition of "farang boyfriend" = stupid white guy who sends money when away and doesn't have a clue about anything thai, then yes your right. But a conventional boyfriend who is a farang? No way! They prefer thai men.

  11. #13654
    Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck  [View Original Post]
    ... Many of the big massage parlors have a dual pricing system. Thais pay less then foreigners, so actually they aren't paying all that much.
    That's true, but even if they pay "only" 3,500 baht instead of 5,000 bahts (for instance), that's still a very small minority in the Thai male population (who can afford those "superstar girls"), and the price they pay is very likely the real value (of those "superstar girls") on the local market.

  12. #13653
    Quote Originally Posted by BKK Dreaming  [View Original Post]
    I am sure there is more to it than that but I have been FL places where you see girls turn down guys all night and go home alone and make nothing.
    That goes to what I said before about FLs in discos. They are primarily out to have fun and are not pressured to rake in LDs and BFs. And if they make few baht while doing it then it is all the better. In the Pattaya thread I wrote that an Arab guy wanted to take one of my regulars but she didn't go with him because she doesn't like Arab guys. I had to explain to her that all money is the same no matter who it comes from. Most of the girls out in Thailand P4P are looking for farang boyfriends, but the FL have the opportunity to be more selective as far as choosing customers than your bargirl or gogo girl. But I, as well, do not understand how they can go out spending all kinds of money drinking with friends and not be inclined to get a nightly income.

  13. #13652
    Quote Originally Posted by BKK Dreaming  [View Original Post]
    ... I wonder how many customers the 5K baht girls get in a week, and if it was just for the Baht if they would be better being the top looker 2500 baht girl and not the average superstar 5k baht one,

    I am sure there is more to it than that but I have been FL places where you see girls turn down guys all night and go home alone and make nothing...
    Guys, what you need to understand is that you can have quite a decent life in Thailand with very little money. The local prostitutes don't need to work much in order to satisfy their needs (actually, when they earn too much money by local standards, most of them spend a great part of the extra money in stupid things, for instance, they would gamble even more than usual, buy meta-amphetamines, etc.). They easily earn much more than the average wage. They usually don't try to earn as much money as possible.

    The high-end girls probably have much less customers, and they might even earn less money monthly than the average freelancer (for instance), but that's not very important for them as long as it is enough to satisfy their own needs. Actually, I suppose that it's more or less about the same amount of money, but the high-end girls don't need to work as much as the average bar girl, freelancer, etc. That's also why the higher-priced girls are often the lazier ones.

  14. #13651
    Quote Originally Posted by Goyave  [View Original Post]
    many foreigners have no clue and really mistake their Lada for a Porsche: that's obvious in their behavior (in the case of the young tall guy mentioned in my earlier post, for instance) or in their reports submitted in this forum.
    Agree, and most of the tourist venues are preying on ignorant farang to make loads of money. This is one of the reasons why lots of girls in this scene dislike farang who speak thai. They know they can't take advantage of him the same way they can the newbie tourist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goyave  [View Original Post]
    Now, about the rich Thais paying (according to you) "stupid money for girls with fair skin", they are not that numerous. I'm pretty sure that more than 95% of the local male population would never pay "5,000 baht or much higher for "superstar" girls in massage places.
    Many of the big massage parlors have a dual pricing system. Thais pay less then foreigners, so actually they aren't paying all that much.

  15. #13650
    Quote Originally Posted by Goyave  [View Original Post]
    Now, about the rich Thais paying (according to you) "stupid money for girls with fair skin", they are not that numerous. I'm pretty sure that more than 95% of the local male population would never pay "5,000 baht or much higher for "superstar" girls in massage places. .
    Yeah but at that price they think they are renting a "low mileage" model and not just a worn out Toyota,

    I wonder how many customers the 5K baht girls get in a week, and if it was just for the Baht if they would be better being the top looker 2500 baht girl and not the average superstar 5k baht one,

    I am sure there is more to it than that but I have been FL places where you see girls turn down guys all night and go home alone and make nothing.

    BK

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