Medellin Reports

[Hioctane]

Thank all of you for contributing, that was awsome! All the answers were right on the money, however I like this the most :

"That's total BS! Pay her only after the trip is finished. The trip itself should be proof that you are serious about taking care of her at least during the trip. If she does not understand that, find someone else. If you are fixating on just this one chick then you might have to take a chance, but pay only an amount you wouldn't care to lose. If I were you I would find someone, IMHO. She does not trust you."

Voyajer1, I am sure you are talking from experience I can tell by your answer. This girl is only 19 and she is a Non Pro, and yes I am really fixated on just this one, I might take a chance, but when I think with the bigger head, the answer is always no. She said she needed the money to pay some bills and buy some stuff before the trip. The main issue here is the trust factor, I don't trust her and obviously either she doesn't trust me or she is trying to pull a fast one by taking the money and disappearing. I understand that there are many girls who will be willing to have a vacation and get paid, but I am not into Pros, I got tired of the Pro seen and at this point I am concentrating on just Non Pros.

Your definition of "non pro" is off as some has said. IMO, there is actually 3 categories. Pro (all the time) , non pro (occasional when they need money or in exchange for gifts) , and civilian (won't accept money / gifts for sex. Believe or not they exist!). However when you date, you give gifts and stuff too. So it's all grey. Now some guys (including myself) interchange civilian and non pro.

Anyways, what is your infatuation with her? What has this chick done that no other chick was able to do?

Online Dating 101.

1. Don't EVER buy or give anyone anything you have never met. You do know a guy can easily steal a girls pics and try to extract money from some dumb idiot.

2. Don't EVER plan a trip with someone you have never met. If you expect sex the whole time, you might be sorely disappointed.

3. Don't EVER buy plane tickets for someone you have never met. I heard of cases where guys bought plane tickets and she never showed up (probably got there ran for a free vacation).

Meet the girl first. Stop with the infatuation! There are billions of fish out there.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

You're jaded Heat. I'm sure she's non-pro. Lots of regular girls leave on vacatiom with guys they've never met in person, and charge for their company, and ask for money úp front, etc, etc.

I'd give her all the money up front plus more.

Yeah right! Just like sending money for those African banking scams. Are you nuts?

Viajero, you're obviously all worked up over this girl, however, take a deep breath, cancel the trip with her, and just go to Colombia and meet her in persona and see if she's real, cool, if you guys jive togerher, etc and meet and play with other chicas too.

Then plan a trip with her maybe, if you still dig her.

Trust me, there are plenty of chicas who will be glad to go on a jaunt with you. Ya might as well pick one that you've met and like and got to know and not just from some chat room and fotos.

This is obvious sruff, freshman class, Colombia 101.

Good luck.

Better yet just leave your debit card. Je je LOL.

LEGAL TENDER: I didn't sense any "GOOD ENERGY" with that last comment. Ricker speaks with a voice of reason. See if you meld together and then plan a trip together. I guarantee you'll have a much better GFE. Just don't fall in love with her like the dudes who feel in love with ANGIE LORENA. Jajajajaja!

[El Bacano]

Women use sex. Period. The "payment" may be by the hour or just betting on an expectation. Show me some broke dick dude, with no reasonable expectation of future success, and you'll see one that is getting no sex. Women want security and protection. It's biological. No scratch means no snatch. And, these women will "trade up" in a heart beat, given the opportunity. Every one of them will. They just have to analyze the opportunity cost.

Not all women, otherwise you would find most 18 yearolds with a 70 year old man with a pension. I personally find the Colombiana is concerned solely with the night at hand, hell thats giving them credit its usually the next 2 hours, They actually analyze you in a lot of ways starting with appearance, security and protection are part of it, but if you are talking about a gf, then if you don't get past the first test you don't even get the other test. Just keepin it real.

[Ricker]

. Show me some broke dick dude, with no reasonable expectation of future success, and you'll see one that is getting no sex. Women want security and protection. It's biological. No scratch means no snatch. And, these women will "trade up" in a heart beat, given the opportunity. Every one of them will. They just have to analyze the opportunity cost.

Not exactly true really.

You're talking about girls that have been burned already, and have learned.

Plenty of young chicas, infatuated and íand love with their loser boyfriends, until they finally grow up and discover, hey my boyfriend's a big loser, then they look for a guy with something to actually offer.

Just go to any strip club in the US for example, plenty of young hotties givin up the snatch to their loser men, and the same goes down in Colombia.

[Ricker]

Your definition of PRO and NON PRO is distorted. What do you think this girl who you are paying for a week of her service is? She's a "PRO". Taking money for sex is a pro in my book. Whether or not she does it from time to time, she's new, she only does it when she needs money, she hardly ever does it, she's a student, blah blah blah. Its just semantics. You may or may not be her first John, but I will bet you, you wont be her last.

You're jaded Heat. I'm sure she's non-pro. Lots of regular girls leave on vacatiom with guys they've never met in person, and charge for their company, and ask for money úp front, etc, etc.

I'd give her all the money up front plus more.

Yeah right! Just like sending money for those African banking scams. Are you nuts?

Viajero, you're obviously all worked up over this girl, however, take a deep breath, cancel the trip with her, and just go to Colombia and meet her in persona and see if she's real, cool, if you guys jive togerher, etc and meet and play with other chicas too.

Then plan a trip with her maybe, if you still dig her.

Trust me, there are plenty of chicas who will be glad to go on a jaunt with you. Ya might as well pick one that you've met and like and got to know and not just from some chat room and fotos.

This is obvious sruff, freshman class, Colombia 101.

Good luck.

[Legal Tender]

Your definition of PRO and NON PRO is distorted. What do you think this girl who you are paying for a week of her service is? She's a "PRO". Taking money for sex is a pro in my book. Whether or not she does it from time to time, she's new, she only does it when she needs money, she hardly ever does it, she's a student, blah blah blah. Its just semantics. You may or may not be her first John, but I will bet you, you wont be her last.

Women use sex. Period. The "payment" may be by the hour or just betting on an expectation. Show me some broke dick dude, with no reasonable expectation of future success, and you'll see one that is getting no sex. Women want security and protection. It's biological. No scratch means no snatch. And, these women will "trade up" in a heart beat, given the opportunity. Every one of them will. They just have to analyze the opportunity cost.

[Member #4244]

Your definition of PRO and NON PRO is distorted. What do you think this girl who you are paying for a week of her service is? She's a "PRO". Taking money for sex is a pro in my book. Whether or not she does it from time to time, she's new, she only does it when she needs money, she hardly ever does it, she's a student, blah blah blah. Its just semantics. You may or may not be her first John, but I will bet you, you wont be her last.

EXACTLY, I don't understand why so many of who are clearly comfortable paying for sex want to assuage ourselves somehow by saying "she isn't a pro" or "she is a part timer" or some bullshit like that. You're paying her for her company are you not? Sex is an expectation, right? OK, then she is a pro, period. Just like basketball players, one guy might have just been drafted, the other guy might be Robert Parish. They're both pros.

As for your arrangement, I wouldn't give her anything up front that you're not comfortable losing. Tell her you'll get her the bathing suit on the coast, buy it with her. Tell her you want to help pick it out and see how sexy she looks in different ones. See if she has ANY suitcase, tell her to take that and you'll get her a new one there. Bills? Who HAS to pay bills before they leave somewhere? That's common BS that has burned many a mongerer. The only time I did that I did it with a girl, an ACTUAL non-pro that I was with for six months and guess what? Burnt like toast! Since then I have a strict policy of doing everything in person, one I recommend everyone adopt. I've heard numerous other stories that kept me from doing it prior to that, should have stuck to it.

Think about this, you have never met this girl, she has poured time into this weird online romance. Would it be beyond her to stick you for whatever you send? And don't think she gives a shit about blowing the plane reservation either. Buy her ticket, send her some cabfare for the airport and handle everything else face to face. You won't regret taking this advice.

[Hillbilly69]

She said she needed the money to pay some bills and buy some stuff before the trip. The main issue here is the trust factor, I don't trust her and obviously either she doesn't trust me or she is trying to pull a fast one by taking the money and disappearing. I understand that there are many girls who will be willing to have a vacation and get paid, but I am not into Pros, I got tired of the Pro seen and at this point I am concentrating on just Non Pros.

Let me guess she needs a new suitcase and a swimsuit, and your meeting her in Cartagena? Colombian girls have a fetish with new suitcases they think they need one no matter what. If this is the case buy her ticket yourself send her couple hundred US at the most and about 5 days ahead of time and no more or she will be broke and not have cab fare to the airport. Whether or not she is Pro or not post her pic, if noone here has fucked her we will give you non pro status. Worst case senario she doesn't show up in Cartagena and your out 400 dollars more or less which you probably don't care and you can salvage your trip by the 50 percent you didn't pay her and spend on other chics.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Voyajer1, I am sure you are talking from experience I can tell by your answer. This girl is only 19 and she is a Non Pro, and yes I am really fixated on just this one, I might take a chance, but when I think with the bigger head, the answer is always no. She said she needed the money to pay some bills and buy some stuff before the trip. The main issue here is the trust factor, I don't trust her and obviously either she doesn't trust me or she is trying to pull a fast one by taking the money and disappearing. I understand that there are many girls who will be willing to have a vacation and get paid, but I am not into Pros, I got tired of the Pro seen and at this point I am concentrating on just Non Pros.

Your definition of PRO and NON PRO is distorted. What do you think this girl who you are paying for a week of her service is? She's a "PRO". Taking money for sex is a pro in my book. Whether or not she does it from time to time, she's new, she only does it when she needs money, she hardly ever does it, she's a student, blah blah blah. Its just semantics. You may or may not be her first John, but I will bet you, you wont be her last.

[LookingToSwing4]

I can not believe you are going to spend a week with the same chica. I got bored quickly after spending just two hours with just one (or two for 3-some). Let's see. You are going to be in Medellin for a week. At the very least, you should have sex with 6 or 7 chicas. Believe me that once you are in Medellin, you are like a kid in a candy store. I'd say if you really really want to go on with this as arranged, then at least have a contingency plan just in case. But still honestly, I hate to pay for something I have not seen, touched, or in this 'fucked'. Never did, never will.

Enjoy Medellin as I always do.

Good days.

EZ

While I would not arrange for a week away with a Paisa I had never met or been with before, I have done that numerous times (4-5 trips) in MDE and see nothing wrong with spending a week with one. Doing this with someone you have not met before and have no idea of compatibility of seems like an unwise commitment. With that being said, find the right Paisa, as I did, and you will experience MDE in a way you cannot when you are rotating between 2-3 Paisas a day! I had a favorite I spent my entire trips with, while working in something different when the opportunity presented itself. She allowed me to experience a side of MDE that most visitors rarely see and was exactly what I was looking for. Aside from an awesome time en la cama, she served as my personal tour guide! I never gave her anything up-front. But a time or two I did give her some of it, which she ended-up using to do something nice for me. But my girl knew me and knew I was good for it so it was never even a discussion, pre or post. That arrangement is now over and I am back to sampling the best that MDE has to offer. Be careful with this arrangement. You may not end up getting what you expect unless you manage it correctly from the beginning.

[Viajero]

That's total BS! Pay her only after the trip is finished. The trip itself should be proof that you are serious about taking care of her at least during the trip. If she does not understand that, find someone else. If you are fixating on just this one chick then you might have to take a chance, but pay only an amount you wouldn't care to lose. If I were you I would find someone, IMHO. She does not trust you.

Thank all of you for contributing, that was awsome! All the answers were right on the money, however I like this the most :

"That's total BS! Pay her only after the trip is finished. The trip itself should be proof that you are serious about taking care of her at least during the trip. If she does not understand that, find someone else. If you are fixating on just this one chick then you might have to take a chance, but pay only an amount you wouldn't care to lose. If I were you I would find someone, IMHO. She does not trust you."

Voyajer1, I am sure you are talking from experience I can tell by your answer. This girl is only 19 and she is a Non Pro, and yes I am really fixated on just this one, I might take a chance, but when I think with the bigger head, the answer is always no. She said she needed the money to pay some bills and buy some stuff before the trip. The main issue here is the trust factor, I don't trust her and obviously either she doesn't trust me or she is trying to pull a fast one by taking the money and disappearing. I understand that there are many girls who will be willing to have a vacation and get paid, but I am not into Pros, I got tired of the Pro seen and at this point I am concentrating on just Non Pros.

[Ezyngo]

I contacted an independent chica from Medellin to go with me on a week vacation, we agreed on a price in advance. She requested that I pay her half the amount in advance and the other half when we return. What if she splits on me after taking the money! Any suggestions from the veterans on how to go about it?

I can not believe you are going to spend a week with the same chica. I got bored quickly after spending just two hours with just one (or two for 3-some). Let's see. You are going to be in Medellin for a week. At the very least, you should have sex with 6 or 7 chicas. Believe me that once you are in Medellin, you are like a kid in a candy store. I'd say if you really really want to go on with this as arranged, then at least have a contingency plan just in case. But still honestly, I hate to pay for something I have not seen, touched, or in this 'fucked'. Never did, never will.

Enjoy Medellin as I always do.

Good days.

EZ

[Voyajer1]

That's total BS! Pay her only after the trip is finished. The trip itself should be proof that you are serious about taking care of her at least during the trip. If she does not understand that, find someone else. If you are fixating on just this one chick then you might have to take a chance, but pay only an amount you wouldn't care to lose. If I were you I would find someone, IMHO. She does not trust you.

I contacted an independent chica from Medellin to go with me on a week vacation, we agreed on a price in advance. She requested that I pay her half the amount in advance and the other half when we return. What if she splits on me after taking the money! Any suggestions from the veterans on how to go about it?

[Manizales911]

I contacted an independent chica from Medellin to go with me on a week vacation, we agreed on a price in advance. She requested that I pay her half the amount in advance and the other half when we return. What if she splits on me after taking the money! Any suggestions from the veterans on how to go about it?

My advise is tell her to forget it, she'll probably change her mind, if she doesn't she was probably planning on fucking you and not in a good way. If you are taking her on a week long vacation why does she need any money upfront, she sure as hell isn't planning on spending any of it while she is with you. Besides, there are thousands of girls in Medellin that would LOVE to go on a weeks vacation with you and be fine with getting paid at the end.

[Errol Flynn]

I contacted an independent chica from Medellin to go with me on a week vacation, we agreed on a price in advance. She requested that I pay her half the amount in advance and the other half when we return. What if she splits on me after taking the money! Any suggestions from the veterans on how to go about it?

Are you saying you've arranged to spend a week with a girl you've never met? That I would strongly advise against. 24 hours could be too much!

If you have met her, then paying half up front shouldn't be required in my experience. You need to front all of her expenses and demonstrate that you are good for the money, but the money should come at the end. The longest I've taken a (pro) Paisa for was 2 days (and it was great). We didn't discuss money until we returned to MDE. I then asked her what she wanted, she told me to give her what I thought was fair and we parted very amicably. That's what I love about MDE, it would never go down that way in Thailand (or the US).