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07-19-12 07:57 #5875
Posts: 3230Originally Posted by Vielendank [View Original Post]
Immigration in Manila has changed just over the past 2 weeks. I had to learn new procedures just 2 weeks ago when heading out.
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07-19-12 07:20 #5874
Posts: 6087Originally Posted by Westcoast1 [View Original Post]
That is why their systems often offer the option to print on the boarding pass "DOCS OK", ie a formal acknowledgement of the check-in agent (identified in the system too and in the baording pass) having gone through the procedure. As I said, airlines are realiable if immigration reject the entry to a passenger. I am aware of a very silly case that involved USA and Air France. The european passenger was a frequent traveller to USA, flying business class and with legitimate ticket. For reasons I am not going to detail here, but absolutelty weird, she wass rejected entry at JFK, Air France was charged with the fine and had to bring her back in the first flight to France. We are not talking about developing countries, dodgy passenger trying to enter as a tourist to stay for the rest of his life and using a debatable airline.
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07-19-12 06:47 #5873
Posts: 704Education in hrm courses
RK, I understand your scepticism about the level of training in HRM courses in the Phils. But keep in mind that the Phils college entrant has had only 10 years in elementary and secondary school, compared with 12 year program in most western countries. So it is expected that they will undertake training at Tech Voc (TAFE) level in college.
It is in the post grad. Masteral level, that the student will get the better education to western standards.
My observation is that undergraduate degrees in the US are similar, and it is not till the student completes a masters that he / she is considered fully qualified. This is a very expensive way to get educated, but is OK in a rich country that can afford it. As the tertiary education system in your country, Australia, is progressively being dumbed down, it is going the same way. Today, a student graduating with a degree in nursing is now required to take post grad training in a hospital before they are employable.
Gangles.
Originally Posted by Red Kilt [View Original Post]
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07-19-12 05:36 #5872
Posts: 1762This is a rehash of a discussion on this board but it's quite easy to print the email confirmation of an airline ticket and carry it with you. As mentioned below airlines simply do not want to be fined by the host country and have to pay to transport destitute or desolate travelers out of any country should they be denied entry or if you travel on a one way ticket and don't have the funds to get yourself out of that country.
When returning from Manila, I'm always asked for the paper ticket just to enter the airport terminal but it's too easy as I always print my email confirmation of my airline tickets and hotel vouchers. Eliminating electronic tickets was a cost saving measure for the airline and their customers as many customers who lost or forgot their paper tickets at home had to pay outrageous replacement costs to replace those paper tickets. At least now no one has to pay to replace those tickets.
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07-19-12 05:31 #5871
Posts: 864Originally Posted by Jp Slicky [View Original Post]
If you arrived at MCIA without a ticket (or without e-ticket printout) and wanted to fly last minute most airlines have a small ticket office located outside the International terminal.
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07-19-12 04:30 #5870
Posts: 4084Originally Posted by Westcoast1 [View Original Post]
Can you imagine those infantile kids at Cebu Pacific trying to deal with that." No Sir, we need paper. We don't trust anything but paper. Yes Sir I know we are in 21st century but we need paper " LOL.
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07-19-12 04:25 #5869
Posts: 6875I'm with Bionicman
If it is such an issue that a paper itinerary be present at check-in, why not have the clerk hit the "prt-scr" key, print out a paper copy of the itinerary right there for the customer, and be done with the situation? They went paperless not to save on paper, but on the mailing costs. A printed sheet of paper on a $1400 ticket is meaningless. The whole purpose of paperless ticketing is not to have the customer print it, it is that, eventually, the customer shows up with only his passport to check in. We are a long way from that.
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07-19-12 03:03 #5868
Posts: 993Originally Posted by Wicked Roger [View Original Post]
Not sure, may be as Europe and American economies are going down as well, they believe most tourist are on a one way mode, never to come back. If its a trend in PH, I'm sure, slowly it would be for Thailand, China, Malaysia etc as well. These things to haress tourists get copied very fast by other countries.
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07-19-12 02:24 #5867
Posts: 1685Originally Posted by Wicked Roger [View Original Post]
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07-19-12 01:46 #5866
Posts: 267One up on you ticketing
I arrived at Cebu airport and was making my way to the Check in counter for a trip to Manila, not thru any security or anything and there was a security gate, they wanted to see my passport and the printout for the e-ticket. After some searching I found the printout, Whewww. Normally you just walk up to the counter or monitor and give those documents. Security was not even going to let me to check-in counters with out it? Where would I be if I could not find the printout for eticket?
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07-19-12 00:58 #5865
Posts: 6875Originally Posted by Wicked Roger [View Original Post]
A year ago on Korean Airlines, while checking in on the US west coast, I was asked for the original credit card. Crap, I kept only my ATM and one Visa card in my wallet, the other CC's I had dumped in my car glove compartment. They were adamant that I show it. I had to leave the airport and taxi to the carport and retrieve it. Upon re-checkin, everything seemed fine, and the new clerk gave me this reminder about the itinerary: "Keep this paper. Don't lose this. Philippine Immigration has become quite insistent that you show a departing flight out of Philippines within 21 days sir."
The long-haul airlines seem to be doing Phils immigration's job for them.
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07-18-12 22:58 #5864
Posts: 6087Originally Posted by Wicked Roger [View Original Post]
I agree, it is ridiculous of being asked for a paper copy of the electronic ticket! Airlines weere pleased to announce a 12 mil $ saving when e-tkts were introduced (much to their margins, not our benefit) as well as e-check-in. No tto mention, at their say, the green contribution to less paper etc. What in reality happened is that they simply trasnfer the burden to the passengers. Who are paying for the paper far more than what the airline pays, passengers who have to print a full page for just 1/3 of a page needed (and the rest full of coloured advertising!) for the boarding pass and so on. I always have with me the whole e-file of the ticket in the smart phone. I know it can be forged, but for f***sake: shows my name, my name is in the passport, the ticket is in their system...who else than me and how can I forge a fake return ticket in their system? Fact is that immigrations should access the airline systems through a database keyed on ticket numbers to cross check: nice an dbright idea, but a mission impossible.
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07-18-12 22:40 #5863
Posts: 6782More silly rules for tourists on very long haul flights
Just so that we all know as I did not and in case others don't know. A new rule to further encourage tourists to PI.
All tourists on long haul international flights must show a return ticket or otherwise not allowed on the plane.
While this stupid rule has been in force for some airlines especially PI based ones (eg Cebu Pacific) and some in Asia, it has never in all my years been applied to long haul international flights. Until now. Was staggered to be asked by Emirates for a paper copy of the return ticket when it only uses e tickets.
The lady said was a new rule (last week) and airline had no idea why etc and thought it was stupid but unless she saw a paper copy she would not let me on the plane. And she said, it is an e ticket so we can't make a copy here at the airport! She saw the boking but said not good enough. Must see paper copy (maybe again we will be asked to show this at immgration? As not been asked this for a long time either)
I think Cathy and some other Asian based carriers have been asking this for a long time so not new in the region, but this stupidity seems to be spreading. Welcome to the Philppines (if you can get there)! LOL
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07-08-12 17:51 #5862
Posts: 236Tertiary Level Rip-offs
Originally Posted by GoodEnough [View Original Post]
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07-08-12 08:55 #5861
Posts: 6782As if this is really important. Except to GMA?
At a time when the country needs foreign investment, needs to create real jobs, build infrastructure, improve the education curiccula and institutions. And so on. The politicians, well Gloria Arroyo (GMA) , thinks this bill to let guys have paternity leave over and above the already permitted 4. Yes 4 times they can get paternity leave!
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/364963...eave-extension
I would have thought she she sponor a bill to limit this to 1 or maximum 2. But then as many don't have work this would not an incentive.
IMHO this is another example of the idiocy of the system and government. She could of course help the investment programme by returning some of her alleged ill gtoten gains but as Imelda is still rolling in it there is likely 2 hopes of that happening. Bob and none (and Bob is dead) LOL