Angeles City

[FunMan13]

Undercoverh,

Great report. I have been to AC several times but have never ventured into Raymond and A Santos Sts' joints. I will definitely try as I prefer longer LT dates including breakfast or lunch. I will be visiting AC on Nov. 1 to 6. PM me if you are in town. I would like to be your wingman. Thanks.

Funman13.

I am happy read someone got justice with these runners on Fields ave. I had my first runner 14 years ago on Fields ave, I guess much has not changed there. For sure, the girls know when they are talking to us and making the promise they will stay, they intend to leave sooner than the agreed time. I am always surprised how the girls can be so sweet and sexy in the bar then back in the room change. If I wanted sex problems, I would stay home with my wife, no need to travel to AC to get it.

But, I have found a solution. Over the years, I have tried Fields, Prem Road, Raymond St, and Blowrow (and dating regular girls there I find from the dating websites for the AC. I have not had a runner yet from Raymond St and Blowrow (A. Santos Street) in the past 6 years (that must be a worlds record). I go to AC at least 2 to 3 times a year on 2 or 4 day trips. I like that on Raymond and A. Santos, the minimum time is set at 12 hours by the bar, not the girl. You pay 1200 to 1400 to the mama, and you get at least 12 hours, stated up front. Which includes a BBBJ, and at least 2 pops. Bare back sex is up to the girl. Nevertheless, I always show the girl the time on my cell phone and we agree what time she will leave me at night or in the morning. When I pay, I also tell the mama, with the girl standing there, the time we agreed she would leave. I also say in a nice in kidding way,"ok, if she leaves early, I am coming back for a big refund." The mama will laugh and say "no problem with girl sir."

Also, I guess it helps that I am a regular customer on Santos and Raymond st. I normally sit and talk with the mama, buy her a drink. There is one mama on Raymond St that is old, but she does not wear a bra under her top, and her tits have a sexy little point on them. I normally play with mama with mama and hug her when I see her (so I can feel her tits against me). Ok, I know this is, well, weird, but it gets me hard and ready for the younger girls. I never asked mama out for a ST, maybe I will in the future. I know she was a bar girl when she was young and her pussy has been worked over, but sometimes I am in a funny mood.

Years ago, I started to bypass Fields because of the runners. I thought I would give it a try again on my next trip, but after reading your report, maybe I will stick with my old good hangouts. When I have a runner, I have a bad mood all night and the next morning. From the post here, other guys have had good results with Santos and Raymond st. These little bars are basic and they can only keep customers coming back because of service and low price for sex. I am sold on the concept! I will visit Fields for the shows and check out the girls dancing, get a few feels. But I will leave the sex stuff to the pros on Raymond and Santos street.

If you want to check out Raymond St, go to you tube and copy and past the following "hookers in the Philippines=Raymond St. MTS" this will give you an idea of the girls. However, the selection will change often, the girls come and go.

[China35]

I'm sorry for your shitty first time in AC. It's pretty much YMMV with all girls and bars. I've always got exceptional service and attention from all the girls I bar fined. Although, I do try to steer away from Cherry girls because they usually cost more and I'm thinking they're not as good in the sack. Some girls also claim to be cherry girls because they don't really want to be with you. I suggest being really out going and fun, that usually works for me.

If its anything like my experiances with virgins, which in China I normally do about 5-6 a year their more hassel than its worth, simply because it takes an age to penetrate them sometimes over the course of 3 nights through them being scared, or hurt or not sure they want to go through with it.

[Bundanko]

It's like a job interview sometimes. I've had few standoffishones give me a great stay-as-long-as-you-want GFE! Well, you had bad luck with the naughty one in a big name bar. So try something different. And I hate to inform you that Murphys law applies. On your last day, you will find the woman of your dreams. She will rock your world. And you will then get on an airplane and start thinking about how you can arrange the next trip.

What kind of conversations do you have with you BKK girls. Do they still play those silly games? X.

Nowadays I am more crude in my approach. First I ask the mamasan about the girl I fancy, such as age, baby, work history and finally call her down to confirm LT till morning, etc before even LD. Cheated too many times hardened me. Its not about love but everyone pretend and act. So why we pretend. Usually the result is better even prompting me to go for breakfast with the girl and a generous tip of even p1000.Up to each of us on what we are comfortable.

[X Man]

It's like a job interview sometimes. I've had few standoffishones give me a great stay-as-long-as-you-want GFE! Well, you had bad luck with the naughty one in a big name bar. So try something different. And I hate to inform you that Murphys law applies. On your last day, you will find the woman of your dreams. She will rock your world. And you will then get on an airplane and start thinking about how you can arrange the next trip.

What kind of conversations do you have with you BKK girls. Do they still play those silly games? X.

So I'm finally in AC. I've been reading about AC for a long time but never got to go around it as I was very happy in BKK.

I'd like to thank all of you guys who have been providing greatly detailed reports and all those who have assisted me either via pms or here on the forum with my inquiries. This forum is a goldmine.

Arrived in the afternoon from Manila. Last night went bar hopping in AC and met a very sweet 19 year old but she said she is a cherry girl. Despite this, bought her a drink and spent about an hour with her at the bar. She was very sweet and mega sexy. She liked me too and I wanted to bar fine her and she too wanted but she said she was on her period at the time and the next day would be ok. Damn she was hot!

While going from bar to bar, noticed a rather disturbing trend or is it? That most clubs and bars tend to ignore the white guys when korean guys show up. A few times, a group of 5-20 of them would enter the bar and the girls would go mad crazy, cheering like loudly while when white guys would enter, nothing. What's the scoop with that?

After that, went to the unfamous Atlantis bar to check their shows. The club is nice, lots of girls, good shows and the manager is a cool brit guy but the attitude of the girls were crazy. First girl, I start flirting with her from the stage, she comes to sit with me, bought her a drink and not even 2 minutes later, she said she had to go to the stage to dance. Never saw her again on the stage or anywhere. What a way to start. But wait, it gets better!

Next, was sitting enjoying my drink and the shows while one of the waitresses started giving me a long and good back massage. I turn around and thanked her. Noticed she was hot. Started talking to her, she comes very close and gets very flirty. Long story short, within a few minutes, after having bought her a drink, we were all over each other, hands roaming everywhere on each other's body, kissing and dancing. This looked very promising and she was very horny so bar fined her. Came to 3K. Back in the hotel, once the clothes were off, she didn't look as hot as she did in her sexy black waitress dress. She was wild but after one shot, she totally changed and showered, got dressed and said she had received a text message from her mom that her baby was at the hospital. Was too tired after not having slept at all the previous night due to heavy partying with models in a brand new club's opening in Guangzhou, told her to get lost. What a rip off! For a 3K barfine, you'd expect at least the girl to stay all night and not just come up with some BS after 1 shot. I wish I could remember her name but I don't (was it Leanne or Leni Anne or something like that).

I realize I should have clarified things with her before barfining her that I expect her to stay till the morning at least but didn't as I wasn't expecting her to pull something like that given the awesome time we were having at the bar and how good everything was going. I usually do make it clear with a girl that I want her LT meaning till the morning. Never had a problem in Thailand or in Brasil with that or even in my previous trip to Cebu last year. But I will make sure that from now, I will make sure to clarify that with the girl.

So this is my first night in AC, which started nicely but ended up not how I expected it. Hoping that today and tonight it'll be different. Any tips on which bar to go NOT to have the same shitty attitude from girls as from Atlantis from last night? Another question: is what happened last night due mainly to me not doing my homework properly, that is making my expectations clear to the girl before barfining her? Or is that the general attitude from girls from Atlantis and the bigger, more popular bars? Or worst, the overall attitude of girls in AC?

Finally, I'd like to do a 3 some with 2 enthusiastic bi sexuals girls. Which bar (s) can you guys recommend to have the best chances to do that today / tonight in AC?

[Member #4152]

So this is my first night in AC, which started nicely but ended up not how I expected it. Hoping that today and tonight it'll be different. Any tips on which bar to go NOT to have the same shitty attitude from girls as from Atlantis from last night? Another question: is what happened last night due mainly to me not doing my homework properly, that is making my expectations clear to the girl before barfining her? Or is that the general attitude from girls from Atlantis and the bigger, more popular bars? Or worst, the overall attitude of girls in AC?

Finally, I'd like to do a 3 some with 2 enthusiastic bi sexuals girls. Which bar (s) can you guys recommend to have the best chances to do that today / tonight in AC?

I'm sorry for your shitty first time in AC. It's pretty much YMMV with all girls and bars. I've always got exceptional service and attention from all the girls I bar fined. Although, I do try to steer away from Cherry girls because they usually cost more and I'm thinking they're not as good in the sack. Some girls also claim to be cherry girls because they don't really want to be with you. I suggest being really out going and fun, that usually works for me.

[Sprite13]

So I'm finally in AC. I've been reading about AC for a long time but never got to go around it as I was very happy in BKK.

I'd like to thank all of you guys who have been providing greatly detailed reports and all those who have assisted me either via pms or here on the forum with my inquiries. This forum is a goldmine.

Arrived in the afternoon from Manila. Last night went bar hopping in AC and met a very sweet 19 year old but she said she is a cherry girl. Despite this, bought her a drink and spent about an hour with her at the bar. She was very sweet and mega sexy. She liked me too and I wanted to bar fine her and she too wanted but she said she was on her period at the time and the next day would be ok. Damn she was hot!

While going from bar to bar, noticed a rather disturbing trend or is it? That most clubs and bars tend to ignore the white guys when korean guys show up. A few times, a group of 5-20 of them would enter the bar and the girls would go mad crazy, cheering like loudly while when white guys would enter, nothing. What's the scoop with that?

After that, went to the unfamous Atlantis bar to check their shows. The club is nice, lots of girls, good shows and the manager is a cool brit guy but the attitude of the girls were crazy. First girl, I start flirting with her from the stage, she comes to sit with me, bought her a drink and not even 2 minutes later, she said she had to go to the stage to dance. Never saw her again on the stage or anywhere. What a way to start. But wait, it gets better!

Next, was sitting enjoying my drink and the shows while one of the waitresses started giving me a long and good back massage. I turn around and thanked her. Noticed she was hot. Started talking to her, she comes very close and gets very flirty. Long story short, within a few minutes, after having bought her a drink, we were all over each other, hands roaming everywhere on each other's body, kissing and dancing. This looked very promising and she was very horny so bar fined her. Came to 3K. Back in the hotel, once the clothes were off, she didn't look as hot as she did in her sexy black waitress dress. She was wild but after one shot, she totally changed and showered, got dressed and said she had received a text message from her mom that her baby was at the hospital. Was too tired after not having slept at all the previous night due to heavy partying with models in a brand new club's opening in Guangzhou, told her to get lost. What a rip off! For a 3K barfine, you'd expect at least the girl to stay all night and not just come up with some BS after 1 shot. I wish I could remember her name but I don't (was it Leanne or Leni Anne or something like that).

I realize I should have clarified things with her before barfining her that I expect her to stay till the morning at least but didn't as I wasn't expecting her to pull something like that given the awesome time we were having at the bar and how good everything was going. I usually do make it clear with a girl that I want her LT meaning till the morning. Never had a problem in Thailand or in Brasil with that or even in my previous trip to Cebu last year. But I will make sure that from now, I will make sure to clarify that with the girl.

So this is my first night in AC, which started nicely but ended up not how I expected it. Hoping that today and tonight it'll be different. Any tips on which bar to go NOT to have the same shitty attitude from girls as from Atlantis from last night? Another question: is what happened last night due mainly to me not doing my homework properly, that is making my expectations clear to the girl before barfining her? Or is that the general attitude from girls from Atlantis and the bigger, more popular bars? Or worst, the overall attitude of girls in AC?

Finally, I'd like to do a 3 some with 2 enthusiastic bi sexuals girls. Which bar (s) can you guys recommend to have the best chances to do that today / tonight in AC?

[Levitraboner]

Day 22, Saturday: Angeles.

Ironically given the fact that I had bar-fined a girl from Insomnia, I had the best night sleep of my whole trip. I spent the night curled up to Michelle from behind, our legs intertwined. Inevitably I woke with morning glory and soon we were having round two. I've never fucked a girl who uses her hips in such a way. Instead of just lying back with her legs spread, she thrust her hips at me, locking her eyes on mine. I fucked her doggy-style and finished with her riding me again. It was a nice way to end my trip, getting rode to a climax by a big-boobed hottie.

What a great girl. She provided me with the girlfriend experience and stayed all night. As we got changed she asked "when you come back again?". I got the impression that she liked me. She posed for lots of photos and I gave her a generous 500 peso tip before she left.

At 10pm I got a trike to the Dao bus terminal and then a bus bound for Manila. You can get a taxi directly to the airport for 1500 pesos but it is easy to travel by bus and the fare is only 114 pesos. The down-side is that when you arrive in Pasay you have to find a taxi to take you to the airport. A Filipino man saw me carrying my luggage and ushered me towards his cab."Taxi-meter?" I enquired and he said "yes, yes", so I got in. He then handed me a laminated price-card that said 'Airport 580 pesos'. He must have thought I was born yesterday! I got out and heard him shouting "500 peso? 400 pesos?" as I walked to the next cab. This driver used his meter and the fare came to 110 pesos.

Manila's best massage parlours, Starfleet and Air Force 1, are near the airport. I had a few hours before boarding but decided against another girl. I didn't want to rush and risk missing my plane and, besides, Michelle had ensured that my trip ended on a high. I checked my luggage in and reflected on the trip as I waited in the departure lounge.

In many ways it had been extremely successful. I had slept with 17 girls, four of whom I would consider to be 10/10's. Rosalyn from Erik the Red (in Cebu) , Gillian from Typhoon, Yannie from Pony Tails and Michelle from Insomnia, were all pretty girls with great attitudes, who provided the much sought-after 'girlfriend experience'. Filipino's definitely deliver in the bedroom.

I had fucked other great girls too, like Syra from Dollhouse and Angel, the young blond from Manila Bay Café. Lovely, Ann and Karen had provided me with some fantastic sex and Jennifer, the cute freelancer, woke me up with three blowjob alarm calls. I would love her to be my alarm clock back in England every Monday to Friday!

But there were negatives too. I'm an adrenaline junkie and like to pick up girls in different, exciting ways. On this trip almost all of my business had been conducted in the gogo bars of Cebu or Angeles. It couldn't compare to the thrill of the chase in Indonesia the year before, where I fucked girls from massage parlours, freelance bars and nightclubs, the sleazy backstreet brothels of Yogyakarta, the fishbowls of Surabaya and the exciting X-houses of Sanur. That kind of variety had been lacking on this trip.

Manila Bay Café had also disappointed me. Two years earlier it had been a rich hunting ground for me but upstairs had been dead and I found it difficult to target the girls I really liked.

In terms of attitude I had noticed much more of a short-time mentality with more 'Dexy's' as I like to call them (girls who do a midnight runner). It's not surprising as Philippines becomes more popular with Koreans, who spend big and bar-fine early. This can easily be rectified though. When you talk to a girl in the bar, draw out your 'rules of engagement' before you agree to leave. If you want her to stay all night, tell her so. If she disagrees, find another girl, there are plenty to choose from.

Despite these frustrations, Philippines continues to be a great sex destination. There are many pretty girls and generally the sex is cheaper than Thailand. Angeles is a must-see for any self-respecting sex tourist while Manila and Cebu are exciting diversions.

The main reason to visit though is the performance of the girls. They're extremely physical and enjoy sex more than any other pay-for-play girls I've ever met. When you come to Philippines, you are guaranteed lots of great sex.

As my plane climbed in to the sky on my way home, I admired Miss Philippines in the in-flight magazine. I vowed that I would return to these shores one day soon. Before then, Thailand beckons again.

THE END.

Ps. I would like to thank all of the people who gave me good advice on this forum before my trip. As you can see, you helped me plan a really enjoyable three week trip.

I went to Air Force One just before coming home. After all the great GFEs I had, this place was a big let-down even though I really enjoy fishbowls.

[OsakaGin11]

Maybe a little too late? Don't forget, the the early bird catches the worm! One thing more, wouldn't it be better to ask the girl if she is on her mens before paying 300 pesos for a drink? Just my 2 cents and the lessons I have learned in the past!

Otherwise an interesting post, brother!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

That's good advice! The first question I ask any girl I fancy is," do you do bar fines?". And the 2nd quesition is " how much?"

I know some guys don't like doing this, as they think its unromantic, . For me its essential as it cuts out buying unwanted and sometimes expensive ladies drinks for no. Goers and wasting time chatting to gals who have no intention of leaving the bar with you. Just my 2 yen's worth!

[Capt Munch]

The prices quoted here are realistic. Never pay more than 200 for a box of 4 either C or V (the only ones that I can say I have purchased) It's easy enough to walk a little farther and get them for 120 to 150. I think cost is about 80 pisos

The street vendors will certainly start much higher guessing that you are basing their prices like they are the real thing.

Over the years, I would say the average price I have paid is closer to 120 per box and my vitamin salesman usually complains that he can't eat at that price. BTW he is higher than some. But if he is hungry enough (recently) he will sell at a lower price in volume. He is careful also to tell me that the guys down on Fields have been known to short change the quanitty with missing blister packs, empties etc.

My experience would mirror others in that even "fake" they have real enough ingredients that they work.

Absolutely right! Always keep in mind that street vendors often ask for 500 pesos or even more! Hence it is always good to know the 'correct price'. If I remember correctly the best deal I got was 500 pesos for 3 boxes.

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[VaderBule]

I've been thinking about how cheap this is.

A friend and I went to Bangkok for a week. We got a girl each which cost US$100 (each) for the week.

$US100 is now around PP4200. That's say 3 bar fines?

The Bangkok trip was in 1986. Maybe we paid too much, but at the time we thought it was a bargain.

So in more that 25 years the price of mongering has only doubled, roughly? Happy with that. My salary has more than tripled.

OK, I'm assuming 3 barfines is 1/2 a week's worth of 24hr girltime, and I've not considered tipping, still it's pretty close given the 25 year thing.

Having the girls 24hrs a day meant we were feeding / watering them too.

I suspect most mongerers will be happy to take the girl. 2 or 3 bangs, then happy for her to be gone in the morning. Then a fresh face that night.

But if I throw in my currency, which was at about $US0. 60 at the time (AUD) , that week's worth of girltime was AUD$166.

That AUD$166 will now buy me PP7300, the figures look umm remarkable! (AUD$1=US$1. 04=PP44)

And I think the flight we took (Singapore-Bangkok-Singapore) cost more than my upcoming (Perth-KL-CLK-KL-Perth) flight too. My total airfare is about AUD$800.

(We were in Singapore with work at the time.) I might be wrong about the airfare, but I remember thinking it was dear.

A contemporary comparison: If I were to fly to Sydney return, catch a private bus up to where I have family and back, there's more than my Phils airfare.

I can't comment on how things stack up for those flying from the US or EU, but it's a good deal for us.

Even better for those expats living now in Singapore / KL / Japan / Thailand. Lucky buggers.

We have a good thing going in AC.

[BrainDrain]

Despite these frustrations, Philippines continues to be a great sex destination. There are many pretty girls and generally the sex is cheaper than Thailand. Angeles is a must-see for any self-respecting sex tourist while Manila and Cebu are exciting diversions.

This could be the subtitle for the next tourism campaign "It's more fun in the Philippines" and the girls are prettier.

[Pip Jaeger]

Day 22, Saturday: Angeles.

When you come to Philippines, you are guaranteed lots of great sex.

Ps. I would like to thank all of the people who gave me good advice on this forum before my trip. As you can see, you helped me plan a really enjoyable three week trip.

SL it is we who should thank you, thoroughly enjoyed reading your FR's, thanks for taking the time to write them. They truly brought back a lot of good memories for me and I'm sure for many others too. Also got a few tips to go along with it; can't ask for any more.

Any newbie's who now asks about current pricing or what bars to visit should be automatically directed to your posts!

Thanks again, PJ

[Sir Lancelot]

Day 22, Saturday: Angeles.

Ironically given the fact that I had bar-fined a girl from Insomnia, I had the best night sleep of my whole trip. I spent the night curled up to Michelle from behind, our legs intertwined. Inevitably I woke with morning glory and soon we were having round two. I've never fucked a girl who uses her hips in such a way. Instead of just lying back with her legs spread, she thrust her hips at me, locking her eyes on mine. I fucked her doggy-style and finished with her riding me again. It was a nice way to end my trip, getting rode to a climax by a big-boobed hottie.

What a great girl. She provided me with the girlfriend experience and stayed all night. As we got changed she asked "when you come back again?". I got the impression that she liked me. She posed for lots of photos and I gave her a generous 500 peso tip before she left.

At 10pm I got a trike to the Dao bus terminal and then a bus bound for Manila. You can get a taxi directly to the airport for 1500 pesos but it is easy to travel by bus and the fare is only 114 pesos. The down-side is that when you arrive in Pasay you have to find a taxi to take you to the airport. A Filipino man saw me carrying my luggage and ushered me towards his cab."Taxi-meter?" I enquired and he said "yes, yes", so I got in. He then handed me a laminated price-card that said 'Airport 580 pesos'. He must have thought I was born yesterday! I got out and heard him shouting "500 peso? 400 pesos?" as I walked to the next cab. This driver used his meter and the fare came to 110 pesos.

Manila's best massage parlours, Starfleet and Air Force 1, are near the airport. I had a few hours before boarding but decided against another girl. I didn't want to rush and risk missing my plane and, besides, Michelle had ensured that my trip ended on a high. I checked my luggage in and reflected on the trip as I waited in the departure lounge.

In many ways it had been extremely successful. I had slept with 17 girls, four of whom I would consider to be 10/10's. Rosalyn from Erik the Red (in Cebu) , Gillian from Typhoon, Yannie from Pony Tails and Michelle from Insomnia, were all pretty girls with great attitudes, who provided the much sought-after 'girlfriend experience'. Filipino's definitely deliver in the bedroom.

I had fucked other great girls too, like Syra from Dollhouse and Angel, the young blond from Manila Bay Café. Lovely, Ann and Karen had provided me with some fantastic sex and Jennifer, the cute freelancer, woke me up with three blowjob alarm calls. I would love her to be my alarm clock back in England every Monday to Friday!

But there were negatives too. I'm an adrenaline junkie and like to pick up girls in different, exciting ways. On this trip almost all of my business had been conducted in the gogo bars of Cebu or Angeles. It couldn't compare to the thrill of the chase in Indonesia the year before, where I fucked girls from massage parlours, freelance bars and nightclubs, the sleazy backstreet brothels of Yogyakarta, the fishbowls of Surabaya and the exciting X-houses of Sanur. That kind of variety had been lacking on this trip.

Manila Bay Café had also disappointed me. Two years earlier it had been a rich hunting ground for me but upstairs had been dead and I found it difficult to target the girls I really liked.

In terms of attitude I had noticed much more of a short-time mentality with more 'Dexy's' as I like to call them (girls who do a midnight runner). It's not surprising as Philippines becomes more popular with Koreans, who spend big and bar-fine early. This can easily be rectified though. When you talk to a girl in the bar, draw out your 'rules of engagement' before you agree to leave. If you want her to stay all night, tell her so. If she disagrees, find another girl, there are plenty to choose from.

Despite these frustrations, Philippines continues to be a great sex destination. There are many pretty girls and generally the sex is cheaper than Thailand. Angeles is a must-see for any self-respecting sex tourist while Manila and Cebu are exciting diversions.

The main reason to visit though is the performance of the girls. They're extremely physical and enjoy sex more than any other pay-for-play girls I've ever met. When you come to Philippines, you are guaranteed lots of great sex.

As my plane climbed in to the sky on my way home, I admired Miss Philippines in the in-flight magazine. I vowed that I would return to these shores one day soon. Before then, Thailand beckons again.

THE END.

Ps. I would like to thank all of the people who gave me good advice on this forum before my trip. As you can see, you helped me plan a really enjoyable three week trip.

[Kelong Jimmy]

Day 21, Friday: Angeles.

I woke up on my last full day of the trip. Tomorrow I would be flying back to England.

Yesterday had been a great day and I wanted more of the same. I had slept with two pretty girls. A 10/10 who provided me with a girlfriend experience followed by a very shy, inexperienced girl. They were very different but both memorable in their own way. A good sex tour isn't just about fucking as many beautiful girls as possible...

Dude, I'm lovin this! Get yourself to Rio, Bangkok, Jakarta, etc, etc and do us these FRs!

[BrainDrain]

From my traditional western culture, Angeles is all upside down. From having to meet the expectations of the western ladies, it is just so different to be in Ph where the whole world is upside down. Even beer is cheaper than water and it costs less to have a free lancer in your room than it does to watch a porn channel at an Australian hotel.

Since returning to work this week, I had a really funny experience. Someone asked me to organise a meeting with Mr X at one of our offices and I hadn't really had much to do with him before. The person introducing me on the phone asked if I knew MR x very well. Verbally on the phone I answered "No" AS I had only seen him at meetings in Brisbane.

In reality in my mind I was flashing back to a hot tub in Angeles where we had co-coincidently met when we were both there on market research trips. The last time I had seen him we were both sharing a hot tub with a couple of little minxes. Can't wait to see the look on his face when I suggest we have a company team building exercise in AC.

Now back in the corner office here in Australia. All I do is look for angles get get back to angleles. If anyone needs an in country ex-pat manager let me know.

BD