Kyiv

[Menidi]

WGs are present from about 21:00 and onwards. Most are dressed up in pairs. They will come and talk to you if you sit alone.

I was sitting there one night about 21:30; one brunnette started talking to me in English and her friend, a blond was sitting next to her.

The ones on Khreschatyk are old, ugly and charge stupid amount of money. Best for street action is to get a cab to Poremohy Avenue after the metro Zhytomyrska.

[Uoykucf]

Around where I stay, the streets are quiet with little traffic and walk thru red light are ok even in presence of traffic police.

Many locals do! No problem.

[Uoykucf]

WGs are present from about 21:00 and onwards. Most are dressed up in pairs. They will come and talk to you if you sit alone.

I was sitting there one night about 21:30; one brunnette started talking to me in English and her friend, a blond was sitting next to her.

[Uoykucf]

The buses are small and old!

I wouldn't ride them.

There're no trams in the center around Kreshatik!

But if you live on Kreshatik, there's no need to use public transport.

[Climaxnow]

Who cares about the "fuck you idiot" replies? Docent matter, just plough on and you will reap rewards.

True, but their is a limit set by VK of messages sent per day.

[How14]

Just a simple VK tip. When you spam girls, as I do, make sure you browse the first twenty photos in a prospects profile. If I see a tongue sticking out, the v sign palm inside, a girl holding a giant teddy bear, or just get the vibe, than I feel that I have been given the green light to solicit. Analyzing the profiles really helps cut down the "fuck you idiot" return messages.

Who cares about the "fuck you idiot" replies? Doesn't matter, just plough on and you will reap rewards.

[Climaxnow]

Just a simple VK tip. When you spam girls, as I do, make sure you browse the first twenty photos in a prospects profile. If I see a tongue sticking out, the v sign palm inside, a girl holding a giant teddy bear, or just get the vibe, than I feel that I have been given the green light to solicit. Analyzing the profiles really helps cut down the "fuck you idiot" return messages.

[El Cubanito]

Here's the report. I'll give all fair warning now, there is probably not as much mongering in here as you would normally like.

I'd hired Alex for a week to help guide a friend's stag party in Kiev. Four of us came to Kiev from various parts of the United States and were picked up by Alex without incident at Borispol. The first day I remember we took a couple hour break and then went out that evening. The five of us wandered around Khreshaltik and wound up meeting four girls on the street. We picked them up (they were around 19. 20) and took them to Shato for drinking games. It was a good time though none of us hooked up or tried P4P, and we wound up dancing all night a club called "Sorry Babushka." Alex was very helpful in translating our conversation with the women since although they spoke some English, they didn't speak it fluently.

The next day, one of the four members of the party decided "Screw this, I'm getting married here" and (very seriously) wanted to find a Ukrainian girl for marriage. Alex knew a reputable marriage agency in Kiev where he took our friend. Joe was able to spend the remainder of the week going out on actual dates with a variety of very beautiful Ukrainian girls. Of course, the remainder of the Bachelor Party claimed his man card for activities contrary to the spririt of the party.

Also on the second day Alex was kind enough to introduce us to a free outdoor excercise facility by Kiev's Hydropark. For a group of Americans used to lifting at the gym it was quite a sight. Various weights, machines, and counterweights welded together, painted, and left outside for anybody to use. Some of the weights for a lat-pulldown machine were made from tank parts. What was surprising to me was how smooth the action on all of the various weights were. The bachelor (Dave) and I were able to get several good workouts in using this place.

The remainder of the week had us going to various and sundry sites around Kiev by day, and then usually to Rio at night. The nights at Rio were a lot of fun. At the time (last summer) the story was $300. 00 to take one of the girls home. Additionally, Alex was able to take us on a tour of some of the best sights in and around Kiev, including:

*Driving go karts at a rather long indoor racetrack. The bachelor had raced go karts in indoor tracks in the US, and he commented that this track was twice as long.

*Visiting a gun range. We were able to shoot all manner of firearms at the gun range, including an old Mosin rifle, an AK-47, and a Dragonov sniper rifle.

*Driving an armored personnel carrier. We were also all able to take turns driving an APC. After finishing a bottle of Stoli with the crew of the vehicle. We almost had a chance to drive a tank (T-72 I think) , but there was some general showing up to the base for inspections that week so that was a no-go.

*Visiting a Cold War area ICBM complex. The Soviet Union had a lot of their ICBM sites placed in Ukraine. There is now a former ICBM site that is a musuem placed about 300 km away from Ukraine. What I thought was especially cool about this was the guides were former Soviet officers who had worked at the base. In addition to the missile base iteslf, there are several examples of Soviet rockets, rocket engines, and a few tanks and missile-carrying trucks.

*Touring all of Kiev's various sites such as the Museum of the Great Patriotic War, the Monastaries, the Churches, and Micro-Miniature Museum.

Alex worked with the guys at Rio to bring the girls home (ok, so it looks like we could do that on our own) and also worked with all of the various sites / activities above. Of course, Alex also knows a variety of restuarants in Kiev and various places to go and meet girls around the city.

The last night of the bachelor party was exceptional. Alex arranged to take us to an American style steakhouse (Uncle Sam I think) and from there we went to Rio. At Rio we hung out with three girls that we'd done a lot of partying with that week (Ivanka, Johanna, and Sophie) and after paying $300 each took them to D'Lux and partied until 2:00 AM. At that point, we went back to Dave's apartment where the girls stripped down and did a lesbian show for us before (after a few more drinks and champange spilled on the bachelor) some of us took some of them back to our apartments. The bachelor party had rented apartments in the same building, making this easy. The girls wound up going home at 6:00 AM, well more than just the usual three hours.

All in all it was a great time and an epic bachelor party. It wasn't only mongering for certain, and my apologies if this story bored anybody reading this hoping for a story of a nonstop sexfest. It wasn't that. All of us had a great time though, and to a man the whole party didn't think twice about Alex's value at the end. Certainly, if somebody was going to Ukraine and wanted to do a bit more than P4P then I'd say hiring Alex as your local guide is a good idea if you can afford him. To do much touring around Ukraine having a local driver certainly has some value all on its own as well. If a guide isn't your thing then no harm done.

I'm looking forward to reading more of the posts in the ISG forums. Thanks for taking the time to read this.

Dude I am a Cuban-American black man. I do not know the language except for a few words that I learn from Rossetta Stone. Even a guy like me got laid every night I was in Kiev, Poltava, Dniprotrovesk (sp?) and Kharvof except for the first 2 nights I was in Ukraine. The girls in Kiev if you got game will want to talk to you especially if you have humor and game. I met a girl in Poltava who put me up in her apartment and we had a great, great time. You do not need a person to hold your dick and tell you put it in this hold. If you do use a guide the girl will not respect you and that I can tell you for sure. Ukraine is a gold mine.

[Uoykucf]

One of the first things that struck me in Kiev was the face of disappointment on the young slick twenty somethings freshly arrived from Western Europe. They were worthless to the local girls because most young attractive guys don't monger and the girls all know it. Most young guys looking to party are better off staying home where they stand a true chance of finding somebody interested in them even for just one night stand. Kiev girls think of their pussy as a profit center and have no interest giving it away to some weekend yahoo. What a great feeling it was to get more looks than the young guy!

I had this preconceived notion that Ukraine would be like Riga twelve years. FUCK NO! Completely different dynamics at play.

You are right on.

Kiev girls know their pussies = $$$$$$

They save them for the day they need money.

Then they take them out and cash in.

I saw a young Brit trying to pick up a local chick on Kreshatik while his friend looked on.

No surprise he failed miserably, scratching his head not knowing what just happened.

Like someone said, to them "you are walking ATMs" and their pussies are ATM cards.

They are looking for ATMs that will take their cards. LOL

[Danish Traveler]

Please stop writing about Alex and his services. First you do not need such in Kiev, second it is obvious a comercial text for Alex. I am almost so tired of it, that am to read about the touriststrip-trap Rio.

[Climaxnow]

One of the first things that struck me in Kiev was the face of disappointment on the young slick twenty somethings freshly arrived from Western Europe. They were worthless to the local girls because most young attractive guys don't monger and the girls all know it. Most young guys looking to party are better off staying home where they stand a true chance of finding somebody interested in them even for just one night stand. Kiev girls think of their pussy as a profit center and have no interest giving it away to some weekend yahoo. What a great feeling it was to get more looks than the young guy!

I had this preconceived notion that Ukraine would be like Riga twelve years. FUCK NO! Completely different dynamics at play.

[DoctorOral]

Yes, nice place.

Good to go!

Doc.

Have you been to the new Coyote Ugly bar? The pictures on FB look good and place is getting a bit of buzz.

I arrive on Wednesday.

RB

[Uoykucf]

There are girls and guys handing out cards to apartment girls along Kreshatik every night.

Good-looking apartment girls cost 1000 UAH.

Cheapest ones are 400 to 500.

[Uoykucf]

There're fairly extensive selection of alcohol in shops around the center and they're cheap!

If you really want it cheap, get the Ukrainian vodka, wine and beer.

Cheapest vodka is around 30 UAH for half a liter.

Cheapest wine is around 35 UAH for 750ml.

Good selection of imported beers and liquor in upscale shops.

[Uoykucf]

The only Supermarket in the center is Billa and it's small!

Very limited selection of food! The meats look horrible! I was told by knowlegeable locals: " Don't eat the meat! They're terrible!"