Makati

[Key Master]

Nice set of tips for newbies Huts and especially the one that I quoted above.

There are several groups of women that go to Havana purely for the outdoor ambience or to sit inside in the aircon and listen to the band and watch the charades going on around them.

They do not like being pestered or propositioned by boors who think that all filipinas will salivate over their advances.

I saw a well-dressed guy sent packing by a table of 4 smart. Looking filipinas one evening.

Not only did they curse him out of the place but they told security not to allow him back in while they were there.

There are women who go there for fun and are not working working. They have real jobs and some are well off financially. Some are looking to mess around though. I've been there. I'm not aggressive in any way when I am there, and they basically in their own ways picked me up. Usually they use their friends to assist in some way. I didn't go there expecting that. Most of my experiences though have been with these women there and they objected to me giving them money when they went home. I've been there plenty of times and have never seen these women again there except one.

But going back to the original question about approaching and stuff, I see plenty of guys just kind of go by tables and start talking or just offering a toast from close by or from a distance. I'm a bit shy in doing that. I have a tendency to hang around the entrance outside or inside. I prefer inside the bar area and just hang there and walk around. It's easier for me to interact that way. I usually wait for some type of invitation if I am interested before making a move. But for the most part, the majority of the women there are in play, but I'd say on Fridays and Saturdays, you start getting more of a mix on other people just going there for fun.

[Deep Groove]

Huts, word! Outstanding advice. Thanks! I'll be back there next weekend and update you all.

One needs to be a bit cautious and tactful because non-working girls frequent the place. Keep these in mind when trying to discern those working from those who aren't:

1) The girl is nursing her drink for hours.

2) The girl is constantly texting on her mobile. When she is isn't staring at her mobile she's scoping the crowd. Since she'll be with a group you'll see the whole table surveying the crowd.

3) The surest sign is the hard stare. Regular girls tend to be much more conservative and generally don't initiate eye contact, and when they do they are much more coy about it. Working girls will lock on to your eyes and won't break their stare.

4) Some girls, often the less attractive ones, are very assertive; inside the bar I've had standing girls grab my hand and wrap it around their waist. Marking her terrortory I surmise. Don't hesitate breaking off from those you're not interested in because she'll monopolize your time.

[Red Kilt]

One needs to be a bit cautious and tactful because non-working girls frequent the place.

Nice set of tips for newbies Huts and especially the one that I quoted above.

There are several groups of women that go to Havana purely for the outdoor ambience or to sit inside in the aircon and listen to the band and watch the charades going on around them.

They do not like being pestered or propositioned by boors who think that all filipinas will salivate over their advances.

I saw a well-dressed guy sent packing by a table of 4 smart - looking filipinas one evening.
Not only did they curse him out of the place but they told security not to allow him back in while they were there.

[Hutsori]

One more question:

In Makati (I think Makati) I went to a bar. It is one the third floor or so. It has one floor that is pretty big, dance floor dj both. The floor above it is open to look down, has couches and stuff, the floor above that is mostly open air, has a bar and nice seating around the edge of the building- you are open to the air and can see the building around you. Sound familiar to anyone? If it does can you remember the name?

"It is one the third floor or so." You mean the club is three floors? Or the club's entrance is on the third floor? Time is three floors, the entrance is at the ground floor, and the third is open air.

[Hutsori]

Very simple man, just walk up and open your mouth. Say hello, Hi, Howdy, what's up or something. Its just like any place you just approach and be yourself and be friendly. The great part is they are there to say yes and are mostly all working girls.

I don't recommend walking up and saying "excuse me, can I fuck you in the Ass for money?". But you never know it may work.

All kidding aside just be your self and be friendly. Make eye contact smile, then it's all up to you to just say hello.

One needs to be a bit cautious and tactful because non-working girls frequent the place. Keep these in mind when trying to discern those working from those who aren't:

1) The girl is nursing her drink for hours.

2) The girl is constantly texting on her mobile. When she is isn't staring at her mobile she's scoping the crowd. Since she'll be with a group you'll see the whole table surveying the crowd.

3) The surest sign is the hard stare. Regular girls tend to be much more conservative and generally don't initiate eye contact, and when they do they are much more coy about it. Working girls will lock on to your eyes and won't break their stare.

4) Some girls, often the less attractive ones, are very assertive; inside the bar I've had standing girls grab my hand and wrap it around their waist. Marking her terrortory I surmise. Don't hesitate breaking off from those you're not interested in because she'll monopolize your time.

[MangoDB]

Okay, I finally went to Greenbelt the last couple nights to check out Havana's and Spicy Fingers. Friday night was a wash. Literally. It was raining all night. I got there after 11 and both Havana's and Spicy Fingers were way crowded, people were all huddled up under the umbrellas. I returned last night at around 8:30. I got a table at Havana's outside near the entrance. Lots of hotties! There were quite a a lot of single men by themselves or with wingmen on the prowl also. LOL. Some older geezers were with some slammin' younger sexy women. Anyway. I'm not sure how to pick up here. I've been to the DR a couple times. The chicas there aggressively let you know they're available! Ha ha! I really didn't notice any girls checking me out or giving me signals.

Thanks!

Deep

Deep,

Havana is not that difficult to get the girls. Most of the time you go there, sit on a table, order a drink and then start scanning around. Within 5-10 minutes you will have some girls either looking at you and smiling at you (depend on the time, but if you are there around 10pm, the crowd used to be at peak). If you didn't get any success go inside and order a drink at the bar and try to mingle with them. Be yourself, be friendly and smile. You can easily find a one there.

[Blu8096]

Okay, I finally went to Greenbelt the last couple nights to check out Havana's and Spicy Fingers. Friday night was a wash. Literally. It was raining all night. I got there after 11 and both Havana's and Spicy Fingers were way crowded, people were all huddled up under the umbrellas. I returned last night at around 8:30. I got a table at Havana's outside near the entrance. Lots of hotties! There were quite a a lot of single men by themselves or with wingmen on the prowl also. LOL. Some older geezers were with some slammin' younger sexy women. Anyway. I'm not sure how to pick up here. I've been to the DR a couple times. The chicas there aggressively let you know they're available! Ha ha! I really didn't notice any girls checking me out or giving me signals. I stuck around for a couple hours- till 11:00. Then I walked over to Spicy Fingers, but there didn't seem to be anything going on there. There were couples, but I didn't see any single girls or groups of girls. Went back toward Havana and had a drink at the Starbucks there. A girl gave me some strong interest signals. I went over and after shaking "her" hand just knew she was a lady-boy. Ha ha! I left after that. How's the game played at Greenbelt? Should I have remained at Havana's? I noticed girls would leave their table and go in to dance. Should I mingle with them that way? From the reports from this site and others, pick-ups from Greenbelt sound easy. What did I do wrong?

Thanks!

Deep

Very simple man, just walk up and open your mouth. Say hello, Hi, Howdy, what's up or something. Its just like any place you just approach and be yourself and be friendly. The great part is they are there to say yes and are mostly all working girls.

I don't recommend walking up and saying "excuse me, can I fuck you in the Ass for money?". But you never know it may work.

All kidding aside just be your self and be friendly. Make eye contact smile, then it's all up to you to just say hello.

[Blu8096]

Starts with a P. That's the Palladium.

There's a place on Makati Ave named Time. It's a few streets from the corner of Makati Ave and Burgos. Across the street from A Venue.

I've posted this link before; it's a good list of the top spots throughout metro Manila:

http://manilaclubbing.com/

You the Man! Thank you for the advice.

One more question:

In Makati (I think Makati) I went to a bar. It is one the third floor or so. It has one floor that is pretty big, dance floor dj both. The floor above it is open to look down, has couches and stuff, the floor above that is mostly open air, has a bar and nice seating around the edge of the building- you are open to the air and can see the building around you. Sound familiar to anyone? If it does can you remember the name?

[Deep Groove]

Okay, I finally went to Greenbelt the last couple nights to check out Havana's and Spicy Fingers. Friday night was a wash. Literally. It was raining all night. I got there after 11 and both Havana's and Spicy Fingers were way crowded, people were all huddled up under the umbrellas. I returned last night at around 8:30. I got a table at Havana's outside near the entrance. Lots of hotties! There were quite a a lot of single men by themselves or with wingmen on the prowl also. LOL. Some older geezers were with some slammin' younger sexy women. Anyway. I'm not sure how to pick up here. I've been to the DR a couple times. The chicas there aggressively let you know they're available! Ha ha! I really didn't notice any girls checking me out or giving me signals. I stuck around for a couple hours- till 11:00. Then I walked over to Spicy Fingers, but there didn't seem to be anything going on there. There were couples, but I didn't see any single girls or groups of girls. Went back toward Havana and had a drink at the Starbucks there. A girl gave me some strong interest signals. I went over and after shaking "her" hand just knew she was a lady-boy. Ha ha! I left after that. How's the game played at Greenbelt? Should I have remained at Havana's? I noticed girls would leave their table and go in to dance. Should I mingle with them that way? From the reports from this site and others, pick-ups from Greenbelt sound easy. What did I do wrong?

Thanks!

Deep

[Hutsori]

Nightclub question?

I of course have been to Havana and the small hangouts at Greenbelt. I have also been to the nightclub across the street- It starts with a P but can't remember the name.

Are there some good nightclubs in Makati I should check out?

Starts with a P... that's the Palladium.

There's a place on Makati Ave named Time. It's a few streets from the corner of Makati Ave and Burgos. Across the street from A Venue.

I've posted this link before; it's a good list of the top spots throughout metro Manila: http://manilaclubbing.com/

[Blu8096]

Nightclub question?

I of course have been to Havana and the small hangouts at Greenbelt. I have also been to the nightclub across the street- It starts with a P but can't remember the name.

Are there some good nightclubs in Makati I should check out?

[Arepas]

So I was originally going to stay at the Shangrila but now I am staying at the Mandarin Oriental. Is this close to Burgos street?

Also, which bars has the hottest girls in Burgos street (I don't care about price).

[LuvAsianTang]

Ok, I'm curious. What does the crucifix or beads or statues signify that means we shouldn't ask them for suggestions? I know it means they are religious and shouldn't participate in the mongering business, but then so were a couple of the girls I met last time I was here. One was wearing a crucifix necklace, the other had something dangling from her purse.

They are all catholic thats why you get to bareback them if you are so inclined. The pope says its ok. Personally I use protection usually because of the rampant clamydia and gonherea in the phils. I'm not real concerned about hiv as it is very hard to get from regular sex unless you have a broken membrane on your dick.

LuvAsianTang.

[Ken Shamrod]

Hey Ken, yes, been there, done that too. I can share my own experience.

In my early visits, years ago, we would probably spend P2, 000-4, 000 per bar. My friends and I would hit 3 or 4 bars, spend maybe P10-15, 000 on the evening. Coming from abroad and earning well spending $2-300 for a wild time seemed a bargain. $500 is certainly possible. But no way you could have this much fun at home, at any price.

I have since smartened up, learned the game but, more importantly, what I really enjoy in these bars. My experience is that the big determinant of the total damage is the number of drinks you buy, and their cost, not so much the tips. The tips are pretty constant. The best way to keep the costs down then is to buy drinks only for one girl, pace it reasonably and do it during happy hour.

These things can drive the costs up:

1) Allowing other girls to join. They will all come and stay if they think you are a willing payer. The girls make most of their money from selling drinks, so of course they have incentive. I look at guys who are surrounded by 5 girls, each with p300 drinks, and wonder what they are thinking. Watch out for the girls looking for 'lucky drink' or 'first drink of the day'.

2) Allowing your girl to order drinks too quickly. One should last at least 15 minutes.

3) Allowing mama to get into the mix. She gives you a free one, you buy her girls, and her, another round. Who gets the deal here? Even ignoring the low actually costs to her, yours is the cheap one. In exchange you are buying a round of expensive drinks. And what is the point of buying her a drink? Luck? Good manners? It is her place, good manners dictates that she pick up the tab, not trick you into spending that much more. Don't fall for this.

4) Going to VIP or 'upstairs' often involves a minimum number of drinks. This is likely to cost you P4-5, 000, the same as taking the girl out. Most likely it will be the same experience as in the main bar, but a bit more privacy...

I will definitely use this info. Great job. I just need to stay strong and say no to the other girls and stick to the game plan. Thank you for the in depth report.

[Brown Rail]

Absolutely, but one time I had this friendly, talkative taxi driver for a short ride from the New World to Burgos Street (Rogues Bar). For sure, he was trying to drum up some business for the night and possibly for some future hire. So knowing where I was going, he asked if I had ever been to La La Land. He said it was a hot club. I told him no, I had never been there, but I had been to AF1. He told me La La Land was better and less expensive than AF! I listened to what he had to say. The place sounded ok, but I was definitely not going to change my plans based on a Manila taxi guy's suggestion. He dropped me off at Rogues and gave me his card. I gave him a small tip and never saw him again. Looking back, I think he was an OK sort of chap. I guess because of the name, La La Land, I remembered the club in the back of my mind.

About 6 months later, I was back in Manila and a fellow punter told me about this bar with hi quality girls on Roxas Blvd north of Airport Road called La La Land and it all came back to me. So I went there and it was good. I liked the ambiance, the girls, and I ended up barfining a sexy spinner. Moral of the story: sometimes taxi drivers know something and are not all full of crap. It is their town after all. But I still would never change my bar plans based on an off the cuff tip from a taxi driver, especially one I do not know. This is Manila and "we're not in Kansas anymore".

I think I wrote about this a few years ago. My experience is that if a taxi driver suggests somewhere, he will be getting a commission. That is not to say that his suggestion won't be good, it may or may not be. But is recommendation is driven by his kickback, not your well being.

Further, I had the experience of going back to the same Roxas Blvd bar twice: once I took a taxi and once I went with Pinoy friends. The first time, with the taxi, as I was leaving I found the driver still waiting for me at the door. He knew where his bread was buttered. He then took me to a few other bars. For me it all seemed ok. Until.

The second time with my local friends, about six months later, no cover and the costs seemed about a third. When I asked my friends they explained that the place has a higher tariff when the taxi brings you as the bar pays him. It may also be higher for foreigners.

I find that if I take a taxi to one of these places there may be a cover, but if I get out a bit away from the bar, then wait for the taxi to dive away, there seldom is.