Medellin Reports

[Member #4244]

Excellent write up Vegas Jeff. There really isn't much to add to this. I think all of us are eventually trying to get to the "Deep End". The tools you listed to help get there are very good ideas.

I definitely agree with Jeff but I don't think those are things you can impart to people on a message board, personally. A lot of guys here don't seem to understand the concept of "your mileage may vary"

[SavePros321]

Success as a Hobbyist in Colombia and other countries that have a deep end is a mindset. Once you have the right mindset the girls can see it in your eyes and they treat you differently. I have found the girls in MDE to be smoking hot, easy to entertain, great in bed, and in general cool to be around. I would encourage the Vets to write more about the deep end and discourage the readers from attacking them for doing so.

Excellent write up Vegas Jeff. There really isn't much to add to this. I think all of us are eventually trying to get to the "Deep End". The tools you listed to help get there are very good ideas.

[Av8r]

Many freelancers as well. All welcome and special no cover tonight


And tomorrow night we're having a Whip Cream Stripper Show.
Need willing boys to lick the cream off the girls. If you're diabetic we can find something else for you to lick;)

[Member #4287]

As a monger, one of the best things you can do for yourself is to NOT give the impression that you are just some old, lonely guy who is loaded and an unlimited ATM withdrawal. If you are bored, spend some time today watching the "Deadly Women" marathon on Investigation Discovery (ID). Some of the shit on there will definitely have you sleeping with one eye open, LOL!

It's pretty hard to be bore and lonely in Medellin if you have a little coin in your pocket.

Paisas get that there is a lot of competition to get in your bed. In Colombia you can have a smoking hot girlfriend that lives with you 24/7 for about $1000-$1500 a month out of pocket and beat that ass up a couple times a day if you want. But if you aren't living there you really don't have the opportunity to take full advantage of the situation.

If it makes you feel good paying a girls college tuition. Try and imagine what it feels like to take care of her and bang her senseless everyday.

Guys just have to remember that there are a lot more of them then there are of you. You are the commodity. You set the terms. Not them.

[Vegas Jeff]

I've noticed a lot of guys here recently posting concern about the girls true feelings or intentions. When I was younger that worried me a lot as well. Now as I start to get older and less age-compatible it actually seems less an issue. I just take for granted that of couse holding things equal a chica is going to want to be with a guy her age from her part of the world. But once you accept that, you can actually be more relaxed around her. Remember, these girls can have doubts about you as well. They are probably thinking, this guy has had so many women, and he has money, he probably just sees me as another notch on his bedpost, or a trophy for his collection.

Sorry about rambling but the basic point is you will go insane if you obsess over these things. Just focus on having fun and being affectionate with these chicas, you will have mostly good experiences and minimize your chances of "being taken to the cleaners!"

As Warren Buffett says, he wants to leave his kids enough to do anything they want, but not so much that they can do nothing. Keep this in mind when helping these girls. Maybe a little help when serious difficulty arises and advice is the sweet spot. If they are always in need they are working you or are lazy. Most of the girls I am with are lazy and I accept that about them.

First off there is extreme poverty in MDE. Many of you read about the minimum wage of 600k ($350 / month) and think OMG how can they live off of this. The majority of the poor can't even find jobs that will pay them this. It is difficult for many poor girls to find steady work that pays 25k+ per day. A few people within a house work and support the entire family. There is no need for these extreme payment arrangements if one has time in MDE. If you want to do it, then that is up to you. Don't forget that if you throw money at them they will lose respect for you IMO.

If one has time in MDE there are plenty of 7's and 8's who will spend extended time with you for 100k or less and they don't have words like hour or condom in their vocabulary. Most of these girls are not aspiring college students. They are just poor and a victim of poverty. This is 90%+ of the girls you will meet in MDE. Many of these girls are satisfied with the money that you give them and have no desire to seek out other men. 9's I find hard to keep fresh irregardless of how you meet them. By the way I have a tough rating scale so add 1 to each of these numbers if you don't.

The difference is swimming in the shallow end of the pool versus the deep end of the pool. Let me explain. The shallow end of the pool is when girls are available to a wide variety of men such as MP's, Strip Clubs, The Mansion, Facebook, etc. The deep end of the pool is when girls are not having sex with an abundance of men. The deep end of the pool is desirable from the standpoint of getting a fresh attitude and essence as well not getting any sex restrictions. I swim in the shallow end of the pool sometimes, and enjoy it, but can see the difference from the deep end. IMO girls in the deep end of the pool who will accept direct payment for sex are better than regular girls. I won't get into that here though. Some Vets only swim in the shallow end and this is cool also. To each their own. Some of the girls that you meet in the deep end will find their way into the shallow end. Deal with this as you will. For you guys who have short trips, the shallow end of the pool is all that is available and the shallow end is a good place in MDE. If I traveled to another city for a week I would consider myself lucky to be with the caliber of girls that many of you guys are with in Medellin.

Here are a few easy ideas for you guys who have extended time. First, if you meet a girl in the shallow end, who is new and has a fresh attitude, get her phone number. If she is reluctant to give it to you tell her that you will only call her if she quits. Two of my favorite girls I met in their first week in Centro casas, who quit, and I transitioned them to the room. I read on the forum a few weeks ago some complaining about girls quitting at Aiffe. If they were new and you got their numbers this would be a good thing. Second, get referrals from the girls that you already know. Be very clear that you can get working girls very easily and that you are looking for girls with limited or no experience. It is also important to let them know that there is no rush and you have all the time in the world and quality is what counts. Third, taxi drivers can be good if you can find the right ones that you can trust. There are many other ideas as well but I just wanted to touch on a few easy ideas.

Don't be surprised if some new girls will not give you a BJ or DATY but will let you have endless no condom sex with them. IMO there is a big difference between a girl not doing these things for professional reasons versus innocence reasons. In the poor barrios many these girls make out, with light petting, and then jump into sex. I am sure some of you Vets can identify with this. Now you know where this stems from.

Success as a Hobbyist in Colombia and other countries that have a deep end is a mindset. Once you have the right mindset the girls can see it in your eyes and they treat you differently. I have found the girls in MDE to be smoking hot, easy to entertain, great in bed, and in general cool to be around. I would encourage the Vets to write more about the deep end and discourage the readers from attacking them for doing so.

Good Luck to all and enjoy the Holidays.

VJ

[SavePros321]

As a monger, one of the best things you can do for yourself is to NOT give the impression that you are just some old, lonely guy who is loaded and an unlimited ATM withdrawal. If you are bored, spend some time today watching the "Deadly Women" marathon on Investigation Discovery (ID). Some of the shit on there will definitely have you sleeping with one eye open, LOL!

[Socker]

I think it's called Karma. I learned to give not because I have much, but because I know exactly how it feels to have NOTHING.

Only good energy, amigo

Too many asshole scumbags making kabillions and living the life they want.

Too many good hearted people living a tortured existence, no, there is no Karma.

But there are mongers. After all is said and done at the end of 2013, we are mongers, very plain and simple.

A very lucky bunch we are too.

Best

[SavePros321]

Most guys on this board are on a tight budget, especially nowadays, but if you have the money to burn, I don't see what the big deal is. Myself, I don't have that kind of money to spare, but if I did, I would consider doing it for the "right girl."

I think it all boils down to perspective. I guess to some guys "money to burn" equates to putting a chick up and paying her way through college.

To me (and I am sure others on this board)"money to burn" equates to frequent, longer trips to multiple countries, and banging newer and increasingly hotter women. That would be my definition of getting the best ROI. If I want to be charitable, there is always the Red Cross and the Humane Society.

[Member #4244]

Phunluv I think that was an insightful post, thank you.

[Norman Stormin]

While making my morning rounds, I saw many of my regulars aimlessly wondering around Plaza Botero. Making matters more confusing, the girls of CL 52 were on CL 53. What's up? The Mayor making good his promise to clean up El Centro? These girls normally find a comfort zone and camp there for life. Then I found the answer. The front of Vera Cruz had been cordoned off to replace paving stones. This was so traumatic that some of the girls even went home.

Not to worry. They plan to finsh in time for the Christmas Chaos which will start Monday. For all you guys who live in Gringolandia, come up town. The water´s fine. The Mayor has really beefed up police and army presence. I´ve only seen three robberies and one stabbing so far this week. Crime´s down considerably!

[Phunluv]

There's been talking going on here that whether you pay the girl's tuition or expensive gifts, etc, we are all just "mongers" in denial.

Well, I've never liked that word and the attitude it implies (I prefer hobbyist or P4P myself, although I know that's somewhat vague). Words have all kinds of connotations. If all hobbyists are categorized as mongers, and all hookers are dismissed as w*s, well then no wonder people get mad when someone is blowing wads of cash on some chica's college tuition, LOL!

But there can be shades of grey when it comes to these things. There was an era once when affluent men fell in love with courtesans, or had kept women they supported on the side. Such things hardly exist nowadays but guys like Legal Tender keep some of those old practices going. Most guys on this board are on a tight budget, especially nowadays, but if you have the money to burn, I don't see what the big deal is. Myself, I don't have that kind of money to spare, but if I did, I would consider doing it for the "right girl." As long as you have your eyes completely open and realize no amount of cash can guarantee affection or loyalty or trust.

So enjoy the game but realize it's a fantasy. And all fantasies end. Of course, once one ends you can begin another one with someone else. The new fantasy will be a little different from the previous one, but with the right attitude can be just as fun (even more!). My approach comes from my user name. The main question is: are you having fun? If no, it could be from lack of knowledge or experience (not really your fault) or it could be the wrong approach or attitude (mostly your fault).

I've noticed a lot of guys here recently posting concern about the girls true feelings or intentions. When I was younger that worried me a lot as well. Now as I start to get older and less age-compatible it actually seems less an issue. I just take for granted that of couse holding things equal a chica is going to want to be with a guy her age from her part of the world. But once you accept that, you can actually be more relaxed around her. Remember, these girls can have doubts about you as well. They are probably thinking, this guy has had so many women, and he has money, he probably just sees me as another notch on his bedpost, or a trophy for his collection.

Sorry about rambling but the basic point is you will go insane if you obsess over these things. Just focus on having fun and being affectionate with these chicas, you will have mostly good experiences and minimize your chances of "being taken to the cleaners!"

[Kukulkan]

They talk on the phone and skype but she has never gotten naked for him. I'm telling you that it is the weirdest thing ever. She could have her choice of gringo's or Latin men if she wanted but she is in love. Not because of the college either. She has known him since she was 15 and after so many years I guess the love, (or thought of love) is real. I have tried to point out to her that if she is seriously waiting for him to come and sweep her off her feet then she is missing so much of her life because of him. Kinda a dick thing to do to her. She is not a working girl and cries when he doesn't make time for her. I got to find him and ask what type of freaking voodoo spells he uses. I saw a picture of him. He is an overweight Spanish guy. I'm guessing he hasn't visited for a few reasons. 1. He is married. 2. He is in the US illegally. 3. He is an absolutely fucking moron.

Well, you just blow my cover.

Thanks,

Kukulkan

[Ricker]

My dos pesos. I've been in my fair share of flame battles so I can't judge those involved but I will say everybody has a valid point.

Do what ever you like and who cares what the next man thinks? Dude ain't got to walk in my shoes, pay my bills, worry about my troubles, so why care who the next guy is? Some dudes love cheap cheap pussy, right on. Some guys like the GFE or from the sounds of it Wifey Exp. Right on.

I totally agree.

[Ricker]

They talk on the phone and skype but she has never gotten naked for him. I'm telling you that it is the weirdest thing ever. She could have her choice of gringo's or latin men if she wanted but she is in love. Not because of the college either. She has known him since she was 15 and after so many years I guess the love, (or thought of love) is real. I have tried to point out to her that if she is seriously waiting for him to come and sweep her off her feet then she is missing so much of her life because of him. Kinda a dick thing to do to her. She is not a working girl and cries when he doesn't make time for her. I got to find him and ask what type of freaking voodoo spells he uses. I saw a picture of him. He is an overweight spanish guy. I'm guessing he hasn't visited for a few reasons. 1. He is married. 2. He is in the US illegally. 3. He is an absolutely fucking moron.

Yep, there obviously has to be a reason why this dude doesn't visit his hot 'girlfriend'.

You named 3 good reasons.

I'll add nbr 4: a convicted Felon.

If he hasn't come to see her in 4 years or so, he's probably not coming, especially if she's so hot.

We'd all have been there after a couple weeks of chatting LOL.

She'll wake up eventually though and realize, and then be sad and pissed off and probably hate gringos or all men, etc LOL

[SavePros321]

Is Coffee House any good these days? I went once and was impressed but I didn't have time to session. A couple other times I have gone, it was pretty dead.

I've only been once. The time I went they had this short Afro-Colombiana named Analucia who had a ridiculous phat bubble ass and small frame. Took her for a spin, but the session did not turn out well (for me) since I had just came from a session at New Life (and had not recharged in time). I haven't been back there though.