General Reports

[Errol Flynn]

Do you still frequent MDE? I've been there a few times and relied on your reports to get started. Haven't been able to afford to go for awhile, but things may be getting better. I'll start with Tijuana.

[Artisttyp]

I've been reading the Forum in prep for a trip Jan 2nd and I'm trying to figure out the availability and appropriate charge for BBBJ in Tijuana as I personally can't stand CBJ.

My take away is that BBBJ is standard and included for the higher end escorts (like cumintj. Com) , almost impossible with most SWs / SGs unless you know them (but I still figure there's a number that would get most to go for it, it's just not an extra 10% on a $20 fee) , and possible with some Club Girls (HK / AB etc) but not included in the standard $60 arriba, should be negotiated first if you care.

So what should I offer / agree to for BBBJ with bar or street girls, yee sages?

Walkers pay no more than 300mx. A few can be found for 200mx.

SG's are tough and most will try to give you prices similar to BG's. I'd avoid them all together unless an opportunity arises.

I don't do BG's but know enough people who do. BBBJ is usually on the menu but there are exceptions. Just negotiate beforehand. IMO any $80 + session should include BBBJ.

Pay afterwards.

[Errol Flynn]

I've been reading the Forum in prep for a trip Jan 2nd and I'm trying to figure out the availability and appropriate charge for BBBJ in Tijuana as I personally can't stand CBJ.

My take away is that BBBJ is standard and included for the higher end escorts (like cumintj. Com) , almost impossible with most SWs / SGs unless you know them (but I still figure there's a number that would get most to go for it, it's just not an extra 10% on a $20 fee) , and possible with some Club Girls (HK / AB etc) but not included in the standard $60 arriba, should be negotiated first if you care.

So what should I offer / agree to for BBBJ with bar or street girls, yee sages?

[MayerinSD]

Okay Gentlemen, I have been lurking on this forum for a long time and never thought I'd actually register and post, but a recent experience I had was so incredible that I just have to ask you wise and experienced gentleman some advice.

This one particular experience happened in Ensenada, but the question is a general one that just as well applies to Tijuana. I've had plenty of Tijuana experience (and stories too) over the years, so I'm assuming it's okay to post in this forum. If I'm wrong on this, please correct me and I'll apologize for any unintended breach of protocol, and re-post.

First a bit of background, then my question. I'm not going to go into great detail about my origins and experiences I've had in 30+ years (off and on) of enjoying the pleasures of working girls through Mexico, but the very basics are that I've lived in San Diego from age 18 (Bay Area before that) and am 56 now. At various periods in my life, I have occasionally partaken of the services of working girls, usually in Tijuana since it's so close to home, but also Ensenada and Los Cabos.

But I've never been a regular at it. Typically I've done this when I was not dating anyone (I. E. When I was 'between girlfriends') and certainly not when I was married from 1992. 2005.

But I'm a native Californian who has had various travels throughout Mexico since my teenaged years (and actually lived there for close to a year back in the early 80's) , I speak Spanish well enough to generally communicate, and over the years I've gotten Tijuana and northern Baja wired enough that I could almost come across as a local. I still love the place and all of the pleasures it has to offer, especially those pleasures discussed on this forum (even though I totally stayed away during the horrible narco cartel years of 2006-2012 but that era seems past now, at least in Baja).

Again, I've plenty of experiences in Zona Norte, but never on a regular basis. And typically whenever I've made a trip to Tijuana for a session (usually Adelita's although occasionally HK and other past clubs) , it's been a real get-in-and-get-out-quick kind of thing. I was never looking for a GFE, I'd usually go during a period when I didn't have a regular GF and the pressure of no poontang would just get too much and Rosy Palm just wouldn't cut it. Sometimes you just finally need a real live woman to come in.

But it's always been something I've done just to 'get it out of my system' (almost ashamedly) , so I'd check the border wait times beforehand and time it so I can drive down and park on this side of the line, head to Zona Norte and do my thing, and get back home in less than 3 hours, around $100 poorer, mas o menos (cost of girl, Cascadas room, taxi both ways, parking, a drink or two for me and a ficha or two for the girl).

As with most of the postings on this forum, my quality of experience in Tijuana has varied from horrible to excellent, but my M. O. Has always been: Negotiate price and service downstairs, head upstairs with the girl and pay for room, do the sexo thing fairly quickly, and then back downstairs straight into the cab to the border and home.

So, all that being said, what has prompted me to post on here, and what is my question for you fine experienced gentleman? Well, what happened is that last weekend, on a lark I went with an out-of-town buddy to Ensenada (where I hadn't been in quite a few years) for a quick overnite trip of partying / shipping. And, of course, we figured we may try out one of the "working girls" there if the situation seemed right.

And there in Ensenada (of all places) , with a SG I had my first real GFE that was so amazing, so awesome, so unexpected, so one-of-a-kind (and I've had some "real" girlfriends who were pretty good in this area) that it floored me. And it has been on my mind alot since then. And I know I have to go back to have her again.

BUT. I'm experienced enough at this to know that it's the kiss of death if you ever lose your head, and your sense of reason, with one of these hot little Latina working girls, no matter how good, how enticing, how intoxicating, how loving or how orgasmic she may be or how much she rocks your world, or how much you want to think that she's only that way with you.

Anyway. This chica was a little brunette who turned out to be a full-on nympho. I mean truly a nympho in the clinical sense, who just couldn't get enough. I mean the horniest little thing I have ever been with, who just absolutely loved the sex with me and I am certain that (knowing what experts they all are at faking it) she came repeatedly because. Unless I have made it this age not knowing as much about female anatomy as I thought I did. I don't think they can fake the physical signs. Like vaginal muscle spasms (felt like a warm wet vice grip) , eyes rolling back in head, breathing changes, and other physical manifestations.

Brunette, about 5'3, about 25 years old, cute and sexy. Not an immediate knockout (about a 7) to look at when dressed but a fine little firm sexy body once those clothes came off. I'm pretty sure she was just a SG because a local guy we'the be hanging with brought her over. She asked for $60 for a half-hour (BTW prices seem to be higher in Ensenada than Tijuana) but we ended up spending two hours in the room doing it non-stop, and I still just paid her $60 when done and she didn't ask for any more or a tip.

Two hours almost straight. She just kept wanting it more and more, the only reason we stopped is because my buddy wanted to come back in the room. It was outstanding. Literally blew my mind. With plenty of V's, I was ready to go all night with her.

And I never thought I'd say this about a hooker, but I liked her demeanor, her personality, and mind. She was actually very pleasing to be with, very pleasant, and surprisingly intelligent. We talked about music, pop culture, world politics, etc. She had her own little iPod and speakers with quite a music selection. She seemed to genuinely enjoy my company. Not at all jaded like some of these 40-something working girls can be who put on an incredible show downstairs in the club but turn into a robot upstairs. In fact, it's too bad she's a working girl because she'the actually be a great girlfriend! Obviously would / could never happen, but nice to fantasize!

Anyway, I got her phone number before she left, waited five days, and just called her tonite to set up a full-on overnite session next week, something I've never ever done with one of these girls. I told her I'd meet her at the hotel at 5, and I told her I'd include taking her out to dinner, maybe even dancing, but a lot of time in that room doing it. She'll stay overnite and leave the next morning. She enthusiastically agreed to this when I asked. In fact, she actually seemed a little bit surprised (in a cute way) about it. I don't know, maybe she faked her surprise, but that, along with her young age and other little signs I noticed, makes me think she may be fairly new at this as she didn't do some of the things I've seen more experienced and jaded girls do.

So here's my question: How much should I have offered her for this? I think I may have made a mistake and opened my big mouth and offered too much. After she agreed to meet me for the over-nighter, I asked her how much she wanted for this, and at first she said she needed to think about it, but then she asked me how much I wanted to pay her for it and. For some stupid reason. I opened my bigh mouth and offered her $150.

I'm usually a hard negotiator with these girls. But I'm used to doing it at the table downstairs in the club, and it's usually for a quick half-hour (or maybe an hour) session arriba. This whole concept of actually calling up one of these girls on her phone (with children crying and other home noises in background) to set up a whole overnite meeting in my own hotel room is new territory for me. My negotiating experience has always been in the strip club / bordello environment of HK, Adelita's, Chicago Club, etc.

Anyway, we set up our date for 5 PM next week and I told her I'the call her again at about 1 PM that same day before leaving S. D. Just to confirm that she absolutely will be there.

So my questions are:

1) Was $150 too to much to offer (for a 5 PM meet at hotel and stay overnite until next day)? If so, is the right thing to do to just pay it since I offered it, or should I try to re-negotiate once we meet at the hotel? Or even try to renegotiate with her on the phone when I call her to that afternoon to confirm before heading out on the day of meeting?

2) We agreed to meet at 5 PM and that she'll stay until 'the next morning, ' but what does that typically mean? Is she going to wake up and have breakfast and we can get down in the room until checkout time, or will she disappear at 5 AM while I'm sleeping and I wake up with my dick in my hand? Should I discuss this on the phone with her next week during my confirmation call before departing, or wait to bring it up until we're in the room?

Anyway, sorry for the long rambling post, and thanks in advance for ANY comments / advice any of you can give me. In return, I'll do my part and post follow-up trip reports, not only from this one but also trips to Tijuana.

Thanks!

[TomJackin]

I brought my extended family, my girl, her two daughters, and mother on the 24th to Rosarito Beach. We hit the beach first and they all rode the horses while I relaxed at one of the beach bars.

We had dinner at the Rosarito Beach Hotel and it was quite good. They had a Christmas menu, which was available on the 24th and 25th. Three course Gringo meal for $16. 95 before 6 pm, and $18. 95 after 6 pm.

First course was either soup or salad. I started with the "Nut" soup, which sucked, so they gave me the salad instead, which was good. The main course was turkey, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, stuffing, veggies, and cranberry stuff. I skipped the sweet potatoes and cranberries. The third course was either pumpkin pie or apple pie with ice cream.

The girls all ordered off the regular menu and everyone seemed to have a lot of fun, including me.

On the 25th, my girl just wanted to hang with me at the hotel, and I enjoyed our time together. I wanted to go to Nikki's for the Christmas dinner, but I was held captive in the hotel room, thus, room service it was!

It was a great short trip. Hopefully everyone had a great holiday as well!

[Guitarrefreak]

MSclive, the "HK meseros weren't aggressive"? You must live in that parallel universe Stephen Hawking talks about in those discovery documentaries. You could make millions in speaking fees with your new discovery.

The HK meseros IMHO, are starting to become much more worse, and rowdy, especially the new faces.

There are a couple of old faces in there (not old by age, but just being around longer) , who still respects their distance with the customers and knows when no is no, but they are also the one smart enough to know that the regulars will look for them.

The new fucktards however, treat patrons like shit, push and shove guys out so they can make way for themselves. I make it a point to remember those assholes whenever I can so I can explicitly tell them I don't want their service when they come to me, (I have been elbowed / kneed a few times)

The good thing is that for an asian guy I am considered just a little taller (not as buff as Sbeach.). So whenever the meseros start trying to shove me around, I just convenient lift my elbow up by putting my hand on my shoulder and if they choose to walk right into it, hey, their fault, not mine.

[HelpRules]

MSclive, the "HK meseros weren't aggressive"? You must live in that parallel universe Stephen Hawking talks about in those discovery documentaries. You could make millions in speaking fees with your new discovery.

As far as CL is the US. You have to be nuts to use it. I have never used it because of these stings. It just isn't worth it to risk your career and have a record the rest of your life."prostitution" doesn't look good on the ol' job application.

[TomJackin]

I have a stupid question. Do the bars like HK sell mix drinks or just beer?

They sell mixed drinks as well.

[Phordphan]

I was able to come up with some free time on Friday. So, I made an appointment with Alejandra, a CL find from several months ago.

Traffic was snarled in part of the 5 and near the border. It took a while to park, traffic within Tijuana was bad and I was about 30 minutes late for our 2pm appointment.

She looked the same as when I saw her last. On the tall side (perhaps 5' 8") , leggy, could stand to lose a few pounds, in her 30s, nice C cups with very suckable nipples and a very friendly personality. She also claims to be bisexual but I've never had the opportunity to find out. We were both hungry and, after brief consideration, we decided to eat in the room. So, off to La Premier. The road there is under construction so you get to take the scenic route through some interesting neighborhoods. $270 mxn for a 4-hour single room.

We examined the menu, ordered some food, then headed off to the shower. It's always nice to have a bit of play and some bump and grind while getting cleaned up. We toweled off and retired to the bed. She's very affectionate and gentle. I'm on my back, she climbs on top and begins to kiss and nibble, eventually stopping to feed me those delicious nipples. Her soft moans certainly added atmosphere. Just as things were progressing nicely the food came. Damn.

So I retrieved the food, paid the guy and we sat around on the bed in our birthday suits and had lunch. It's interesting to see a naked woman with a plate on her lap scarfing down a quesadilla. Not something you see every day.

After our snacks it was back to business. Ms. A resumed her caresses, then started a very nice BBBJ. She was positioned in such a way that I could caress her back and ass, as well as finger her pussy and clit. Some of her moans may have been a bit fake (but maybe not) , but you certainly can't fake a soaking wet pussy, and that's what I found as soon as I touched it. She moaned softly as I stroked her clit, then I had her move into the 69 position. A few minutes later she was ready to cum, but she stopped as it was too soon.

Her BJ skills have improved markedly from the last time. She also likes to play with the boys and caress you all over while doing it. Eventually she asked if I wanted to CIM or did I prefer some penetration. I opted for penetration, so I put on a party hat and she climbed on top. After a few minutes I wanted to switch to mish, so we did.

I've had girls who were very quiet and said little during sex. Others screamed "Fuck me, fuck that hole" with every thrust. But Ms. A just whispers softly things like que rico, disfrutalo, dime lo que te gusta. Damn, there is something about whispering naughty nothings, in Spanish, in your ear during sex that just drives me crazy. Incredibly sexy.

After we finished we lay there for a few minutes to catch our breath. She has a nice way of snuggling in your arms afterward that is very sweet. Then it was up and back into the shower. We dressed and prepared to go find a cab. I checked my watch and we'd only been there a little over 90 minutes, although it seemed longer.

No mention of money, ever. I thought she was going to leave without even asking. I pressed 800 mxn into her hand (the regular tariff is 600mxn) and she pocketed it without even counting it. Nice. 100% GFE all the way. Who could ask for more?

We lucked into a great cab driving by. He dropped her where she wanted to go, then took me to the border. Great guy, excellent English. If anybody wants his name / number PM me. He says he likes contracting for personal cabbie services by the day, so if anybody's planning on spending some time heading all over Tijuana he's your man.

[Rtool]

I have a stupid question. Do the bars like HK sell mix drinks or just beer?

[Phordphan]

Did anybody see the lines yesterday? At around 1:30pm it looked like at least 30 minutes to get INTO Mexico. By 5:00 is was more like an hour.

Just to clarify, this was on the 5 Freeway, southbound. By 5 it was backed up almost to the SY Blvd. Exit. The 5 southbound entrances at SYB and CDP had huge lines, too.

[Phordphan]

After returning to the hotel we needed to find something to do. While Rocky put on her face I sat and researched everything I could find on the Internet concerning nightlife, etc, in Mexicali. Basically I came up with bupkis. This is not the city for partying. Everything I found was either out of out of date and out of business or were closed on Sunday. Mostly the former. I decided it would be best to take a drive around to see what we liked, then return, park the car and take a taxi. Most of the clubs and antros seem to be situated somewhere along Benito Juarez, so it was a fairly easy drive. A taxi driver had informed us that the places closest to the hotel were "pura banda," so we crossed those off the list as neither of us cares for banda. We found one spot, La Michelada, that looked promising. So, back to the hotel to park. On the way, Rocky said we had to make a pit stop for tampons. Ugh.

We parked and went to the street. It's dark and cold. Taxis are few and far between on a Sunday. Just as I was about to go to the front desk and have them call us a taxi, one showed up. We exited at La Michelada and went in after being frisked. At about 9:00-ish the place was slow, only 6 or 8 customers in the place. We grabbed a table and a cubeta of 10 beers.

The videos on the monitors looked promising. Decent music. Oh, and whatever brand of carne seca they serve is delicious.

I looked up at about 10:30 and it was starting to get very busy. At 11:00 the live music hit the stage. Guess what? Yes, banda. Arrrgh. Fortunately, they weren't too bad. Sort of like a semi-painless tooth extraction. It could have been worse.

By the time we finished cubeta #1 the joint was heaving. Rocky got another and we moved tables to avoid getting trampled. Somewhere near the beginning of #2 Rocky got the good idea that I should go find some other lady to dance with. I've been around that Bush before, with a Thai ex-GF, and I wasn't about to go through another drunken jealousy fight again. She thought I was nuts for not doing it, but I'm like Mark Twain's cat that sat on a hot stove lid.

After the second cubeta (10 beers per person at this point) it was approaching 3am and I'd had enough. So had Rocky, but she doesn't always know it. Grabbed my jacket and stepped out into the Arctic blast. Damn! Luckily there were several taxis waiting. Into one and off to the hotel. But Rocky decided that we needed food. She had the driver take us to some all-night joint not too far from the hotel. The al Pastor looked good so I ordered 2 or 3. Rocky ordered a mulita. I received huge, heavy bag. Turns out the place puts loads of sides into to-go orders. Roasted chilis, pinto beans, etc. Yum. Back at the hotel, Rocky hoovers up my tacos like they're the last ones on earth and left me with her mulita. Damn. The Pastor was good. Fortunately, the carne asada mulita was good or I would have had to make her go back by herself and get me some tacos.

We collapsed in bed. I slept reasonably well for a guy sleeping next to a 5' lumberjack. Until about 9:00. I was awakened by a huge pile driver operating upstairs. Well, not exactly, but it was a huge booming thump every 20 seconds or so. After about 45 minutes it was replaces by smaller, more frequent, thumps and general buzzing, like when you get your teeth cleaned. Turns out half the fucking hotel wing was being remodeled. A couple hours of this and Rocky soothed things with a very competent HJ. About check-out time, noon, the hammering stopped (natch!). We showered, packed and hit the coffee shop. I was not in the best of moods.

The weather was cool but sunny. The trip back to Tijuana was nice. If you like desert vistas, there are many to be had in the hills outside of town. Very scenic.

Back in Tijuana we had an early dinner at Ricardo's. It's a local chain, much like a Mexican Denny's, that has very good food at reasonable prices. There is one two blocks from Ticuan. I dropped Rocky at her house and gave her a parting gift of about 2, 000 MXN, with which she seemed very happy. Five minutes in the SENTRI lane and I was back in the USA. Two hours later I was home.

Mexicali is a place to see once, I suppose. I think in warmer weather there would be many more things to do outdoors. The bullring looks interesting. But I see no reason to return soon. Maybe San Felipe in the spring.

[SBeach25]

Did anybody see the lines yesterday? At around 1:30pm it looked like at least 30 minutes to get INTO Mexico. By 5:00 is was more like an hour.

The lines going out were crazy. The I-94 line took up the entire SENTRI lane on the sidewalk and went half-way around the curve. And it split into two from the canopy to the turnstiles. At the rate it was moving I suspect those poor bastards near the end were looking at around 8 hours waiting. The "outbound" lanes were jammed with "regular" people crossing into the USA. What a cluster fuck. Had to practically elbow my way to the SENTRI entrance. There was about a 5 minute backup in the SENTRI line. An agent sent a young lady across several lanes into the SENTRI line next to me. We chatted a bit. Poor thing had a GOES card and was from Canada. As we know, there are no signs on the MX side and the SENTRI lane was jammed with I-94s. So the poor thing didn't know she could cut to the front of the line. She spent 2 hours waiting in that line and was still probably 20 minutes from the end when they sent her to the correct line. Damn!

My normal parking spot, on the other side of the street from JIB, jacked up their rates to $13. Assholes. UETA was still $7. Traffic was horrendous. TR to follow

It was pretty bad last night around 8pm. The lines looped around the the trolly's in both directions and the a big swirl like a cinamon roll at the exit of the Customs exit. Crazy.

[Burma Jones]

Phordphan,

You are right about the Sentri Lane. Last Sunday, I caught a taxi to the drop off point and foolishly thought I could walk to the right of both lines like the overhead signs said. It took at least 20 minutes to elbow and fight my way to the front because the Ready Lane has now taken over what sidewalk the regular lane used to leave free. I almost think it is best to walk up the entrance lane backwards until the canopy ends to stay out of the mass of people. At 8 pm last Saturday night, there was no line in either direction. It was the quietest I have ever seen it. I suppose Christmas shopping is going to swell the ranks.

Burma

[Phordphan]

Did anybody see the lines yesterday? At around 1:30pm it looked like at least 30 minutes to get INTO Mexico. By 5:00 is was more like an hour.

The lines going out were crazy. The I-94 line took up the entire SENTRI lane on the sidewalk and went half-way around the curve. And it split into two from the canopy to the turnstiles. At the rate it was moving I suspect those poor bastards near the end were looking at around 8 hours waiting. The "outbound" lanes were jammed with "regular" people crossing into the USA. What a cluster fuck. Had to practically elbow my way to the SENTRI entrance. There was about a 5 minute backup in the SENTRI line. An agent sent a young lady across several lanes into the SENTRI line next to me. We chatted a bit. Poor thing had a GOES card and was from Canada. As we know, there are no signs on the MX side and the SENTRI lane was jammed with I-94s. So the poor thing didn't know she could cut to the front of the line. She spent 2 hours waiting in that line and was still probably 20 minutes from the end when they sent her to the correct line. Damn!

My normal parking spot, on the other side of the street from JIB, jacked up their rates to $13. Assholes. UETA was still $7. Traffic was horrendous. TR to follow