Bangkok Reports

[Wolvenvacht]

This pretty much sums it up.

What a lot of young guys don't understand is us older gents don't want a GF. I know I don't.

We have done the GF thing, the wife thing, the kids thing and now it is our time.

When you have a Gf or wife, there is a higher price to pay then money. It is called drama.

If I can have a pretty girl fuck my brains out and leave. The next day I can repeat with one or two others and then they leave, I am a happy man.

I have been to Thailand many times and contrary to what the little 25 year old says, there are a lot of young guys Americans and others that come to Thailand to buy it not to date it.

A man much wiser than I ever will be, once said "We pay them to leave us in the morning". That sums it up very nice.

[Syzygies]

Having had a wonderful session with Kul (Goon) at Dr BJ, I wasn't sure I was up for any more. So decided to just have a perve in some bars and just maybe if the right girl was found, do something.

Decided firstly to check out the raunchy Yok look-alike with fab tits at Crazy House, May. She was not there. The line-up on Sunday was just slightly down, but many newish girls fairly good looking. Called one over for a drink. She had worked only 3 days so far. Turned out she had bad breath. I suggested she go brush her teeth, but she said she would do so at home, even though I had a tiny toothbrush and toothpaste on me. She was willing to take chewing gum. Anyway scratch her. There was an altercation and a Japanese guy threw a glass. Strangely this was accepted and he was not dealt with it seems. He went upstairs. I believe one innocent bystander customer got a slight injury.

I decided to go look in Long Gun. My regular girl was not there. The rest were so-so. I did not go in SW as feared would cost me too much and besides wanted to check something different.

Went to rainbow 4 about midnight. Line-up was surprisingly unimpressive, although I guess the good girls disappeared earlier. Would have expected some to return though. A lot of silicone jobs, some bad saggies, several fatties, some fake noses, some broad squashed noses, some witchy hook noses. Only one or two slim girls, with no tits at all, looked any good to me. No stunningly pretty girls (its too late I suppose). I don't really understand why Rainbow 4 is so highly rated. What I could say was that some RB4 girls had good aspects. E. G. A girl with ordinary face had a fabulous ass but overly firm silicones up top. I thought my 35 Y.O. Thai GF (cute nose, good tits and good ass) to be somewhat hotter than the entire line up actually, even if her slightly pointy chin would not be everyone's taste.

The girls at Crazy House were better looking to my taste (much more natural looking girls) with better faces and better bodies as well. Its just that maybe only a small percentage of them are actually nice girls. A few super asshole girls work there too.

Next Spankys as had found a couple of nice girls there before. Immediately I liked Spanky's better than RB4, as even though no stunners, mostly slim girls, no fatties, only one silicone set, very few fake noses, and quite a few totally naked girls. However my good fuck girl from previous visits was not there. Nana Carpark did not have any talent at this time. Walk along Suk, saw plenty of black girls, all quite ugly, no stunning street walkers.

On the way home, wanted to have a look in the Thermae. Turns out it was pretty quiet. Apparently 2AM is a bit late for it. Two pretty enough doable girls though out of about 15 to 20 girls remaining. A few LBs outside.

That was it. So I continue to be underwhelmed by Nana Plaza, at each visit. Maybe just getting too old and picky.

[TellAll]

Old guys with money have no trouble pulling in beautiful young women. I live in South Florida now. Around here an old man in a motorized wheelchair sucking on an oxygen tank with a fat bank account could go around with a sign reading, "Beautiful young chicks wanted." In minutes he'd be surrounded by hot honeys. I've dated very attractive young ladies here. One of my favorite places to meet them is at a complex filled with bars, restaurants and a nice gym. Funny that you mention a gym in your post. Anyway, we exchange info and plan a date. I take them to a fancy restaurant, a nice bar afterwards. After blowing a few hundred on them they're ready to spread their legs. It's not a question of where you can and cannot pull girls; it's whether you want the complications of a young lady looking for a sugar daddy or prefer the simplicity of fucking prostitutes.

This pretty much sums it up.

What a lot of young guys don't understand is us older gents don't want a GF. I know I don't.

We have done the GF thing, the wife thing, the kids thing and now it is our time.

When you have a Gf or wife, there is a higher price to pay then money. It is called drama.

If I can have a pretty girl fuck my brains out and leave. The next day I can repeat with one or two others and then they leave, I am a happy man.

I have been to Thailand many times and contrary to what the little 25 year old says, there are a lot of young guys Americans and others that come to Thailand to buy it not to date it.

[Paul Kausch]

The 25 yo poster hasn't realized that the old guys here are past their prime and can't change their lifestyle and age to start pulling girls from the gym or other non-mongering types of venues.

Old guys with money have no trouble pulling in beautiful young women. I live in South Florida now. Around here an old man in a motorized wheelchair sucking on an oxygen tank with a fat bank account could go around with a sign reading, "Beautiful young chicks wanted." In minutes he'd be surrounded by hot honeys. I've dated very attractive young ladies here. One of my favorite places to meet them is at a complex filled with bars, restaurants and a nice gym. Funny that you mention a gym in your post. Anyway, we exchange info and plan a date. I take them to a fancy restaurant, a nice bar afterwards. After blowing a few hundred on them they're ready to spread their legs. It's not a question of where you can and cannot pull girls; it's whether you want the complications of a young lady looking for a sugar daddy or prefer the simplicity of fucking prostitutes.

[Ehunter]

If one reads back 5 or 10 sum-odd pages they will come across places where the dominate posters here are of guys of retirement age. These guys have been having a grand old time lately, posting about the good old days that they are no-more, and the downward fate of mongering in this fine city. These guys have been mongering for longer than 30 years. They have zero-ed in on what has worked best for them to get no-strings attached sex while moving further into their twilight years.

The 25 yo poster hasn't realized that the old guys here are past their prime and can't change their lifestyle and age to start pulling girls from the gym or other non-mongering types of venues. So maybe just the 25yo's are complaining under their breath that they don't have the finances to pull no strings attached pussy at 1-3k a night, so he feels resentment for the guys that can. Since the senior guys with nest eggs have a hard time scrounging for the free stuff there is resentment against having their noses rubbed into what they do by the snotty-nosed 25yo.

Rest assured, the 25yo will be old before he knows it. He will understand better as he ages. He just needs time. By his writing you can tell he is beyond his years in expressing himself. He just needs a better understanding of the path of life.

By the way, if he is not a young monger. What the hell is he doing on the stickman site and ISG anyway? This just tells me he is holding back something and is not telling the complete truth.

"I recently discovered this website and have been reading through some readers' submissions and weekly columns. I am in my mid 20s and have lived and worked in Bangkok for 3½ years. I am completely amazed by some of the stuff on this site and not in a good way. Having shared the link around friends of my age they mostly had a similar opinion. The site is stuck in some kind of alternate universe where it is still 2002. The scene which is talked about may have been what most foreigners here did back then (I don't know) but it certainly isn't now, at least among people of my age. Other than a minority, almost all of my friends of similar age who live and work in Bangkok do not go to gogo bar areas except occasionally for a laugh if someone new comes and we take them to see the bars and the types of foreigners who go there. We certainly don't go to take women. It isn't because it's seen as wrong, but mostly that there is no chance we would pay money to sleep with women who look as bad as most of the bar women do. They are awful. Most of us meet girlfriends the same way we did in our own countries, randomly, at work, or at the gym, things like that. Girls that are far better than any found in a bar. With Thai women you always end up paying one way or another, but there is a big difference between spending perhaps a couple of thousand baht on food or whatever taking a hot looking girl out all night (who actually wants to go out with you) and going to some gogo bar and end up paying more to go to a room for an hour to have sex with a wreck of a girl who might have had sex 4 or 5 times that night and who doesn't want to be there and probably has to be drunk to do so. I noticed some readers complaining about the prices they have to pay for girls going up, and the quality of women in bars decreasing. How can anyone think it is a bad thing that Thai girls now have better opportunities in life than selling sex to foreigners."

[Ehunter]

If one reads back 5 or 10 sum-odd pages they will come across places where the dominate posters here are of guys of retirement age. These guys have been having a grand old time lately, posting about the good old days that they are no-more, and the downward fate of mongering in this fine city. These guys have been mongering for longer than 30 years. They have zero-ed in on what has worked best for them to get no-strings attached sex while moving further into their twilight years.

The 25 yo poster hasn't realized that the old guys here are past their prime and can't change their lifestyle and age to start pulling girls from the gym or other non-mongering types of venues. So maybe just the 25yo's are complaining under their breath that they don't have the finances to pull no strings attached pussy at 1-3k a night, so he feels resentment for the guys that can. Since the senior guys with nest eggs have a hard time scrounging for the free stuff there is resentment against having their noses rubbed into what they do by the snotty-nosed 25yo.

Rest assured, the 25yo will be old before he knows it. He will understand better as he ages. He just needs time. By his writing you can tell he is beyond his years in expressing himself. He just needs a better understanding of the path of life.

By the way, if he is not a young monger. What the hell is he doing on the stickman site and ISG anyway? This just tells me he is holding back something and is not telling the complete truth.[/QUOTE]"I recently discovered this website and have been reading through some readers' submissions and weekly columns. I am in my mid 20s and have lived and worked in Bangkok for 3½ years. I am completely amazed by some of the stuff on this site and not in a good way. Having shared the link around friends of my age they mostly had a similar opinion. The site is stuck in some kind of alternate universe where it is still 2002. The scene which is talked about may have been what most foreigners here did back then (I don't know) but it certainly isn't now, at least among people of my age. Other than a minority, almost all of my friends of similar age who live and work in Bangkok do not go to gogo bar areas except occasionally for a laugh if someone new comes and we take them to see the bars and the types of foreigners who go there. We certainly don't go to take women. It isn't because it's seen as wrong, but mostly that there is no chance we would pay money to sleep with women who look as bad as most of the bar women do. They are awful. Most of us meet girlfriends the same way we did in our own countries, randomly, at work, or at the gym, things like that. Girls that are far better than any found in a bar. With Thai women you always end up paying one way or another, but there is a big difference between spending perhaps a couple of thousand baht on food or whatever taking a hot looking girl out all night (who actually wants to go out with you) and going to some gogo bar and end up paying more to go to a room for an hour to have sex with a wreck of a girl who might have had sex 4 or 5 times that night and who doesn't want to be there and probably has to be drunk to do so. I noticed some readers complaining about the prices they have to pay for girls going up, and the quality of women in bars decreasing. How can anyone think it is a bad thing that Thai girls now have better opportunities in life than selling sex to foreigners."[/quote]

[Paul Kausch]

Figured that guy would get some response. The young guy comes across as very arrogant and condescending. Of course its good in some ways that Bangkok women tend to share themselves around town, even those claiming not to. Everyone needs variety, and it really means more beautiful women available for everyone.

The kid wrote he is in his mid-twenties. Hardly old enough to know much of anything. On weekends I used to get breakfast at a diner between San Anselmo and Fairfax, CA. In the diner was a sign that read: "Kids, move out, get a job, support yourself now while you still know everything." Or words to that effect.

The development of the birth control pill had a dramatic effect on women's sexuality in the developed world. Suddenly, freed of the fear of an unplanned pregnancy, women started to fuck like bunnies. For the next couple of decades sex was free and readily available. For some women how many men she bedded became a source of pride. Then the times changed. I'm sure many sociology dissertation have been written about the reasons. I suspect Bangkok women are going through a sexual revolution of sorts. Will it come to an end? Probably.

[Ehunter]

If one reads back 5 or 10 sum-odd pages they will come across places where the dominate posters here are of guys of retirement age. These guys have been having a grand old time lately, posting about the good old days that they are no-more, and the downward fate of mongering in this fine city. These guys have been mongering for longer than 30 years. They have zero-ed in on what has worked best for them to get no-strings attached sex while moving further into their twilight years.

The 25 yo poster hasn't realized that the old guys here are past their prime and can't change their lifestyle and age to start pulling girls from the gym or other non-mongering types of venues. So maybe just the 25yo's are complaining under their breath that they don't have the finances to pull no strings attached pussy at 1-3k a night, so he feels resentment for the guys that can. Since the senior guys with nest eggs have a hard time scrounging for the free stuff there is resentment against having their noses rubbed into what they do by the snotty-nosed 25yo.

Rest assured, the 25yo will be old before he knows it. He will understand better as he ages. He just needs time. By his writing you can tell he is beyond his years in expressing himself. He just needs a better understanding of the path of life.

By the way, if he is not a young monger. What the hell is he doing on the stickman site and ISG anyway? This just tells me he is holding back something and is not telling the complete truth.[/QUOTE]"I recently discovered this website and have been reading through some readers' submissions and weekly columns. I am in my mid 20s and have lived and worked in Bangkok for 3½ years. I am completely amazed by some of the stuff on this site and not in a good way. Having shared the link around friends of my age they mostly had a similar opinion. The site is stuck in some kind of alternate universe where it is still 2002. The scene which is talked about may have been what most foreigners here did back then (I don't know) but it certainly isn't now, at least among people of my age. Other than a minority, almost all of my friends of similar age who live and work in Bangkok do not go to gogo bar areas except occasionally for a laugh if someone new comes and we take them to see the bars and the types of foreigners who go there. We certainly don't go to take women. It isn't because it's seen as wrong, but mostly that there is no chance we would pay money to sleep with women who look as bad as most of the bar women do. They are awful. Most of us meet girlfriends the same way we did in our own countries, randomly, at work, or at the gym, things like that. Girls that are far better than any found in a bar. With Thai women you always end up paying one way or another, but there is a big difference between spending perhaps a couple of thousand baht on food or whatever taking a hot looking girl out all night (who actually wants to go out with you) and going to some gogo bar and end up paying more to go to a room for an hour to have sex with a wreck of a girl who might have had sex 4 or 5 times that night and who doesn't want to be there and probably has to be drunk to do so. I noticed some readers complaining about the prices they have to pay for girls going up, and the quality of women in bars decreasing. How can anyone think it is a bad thing that Thai girls now have better opportunities in life than selling sex to foreigners."

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http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Stick.k-Songkran.htm.[/url][/quote]

[Paul Kausch]

Hey paul your mailbox is full

Strange, I was about 20 messages below the 200 message limit. Regardless, I moved a bunch of PMs into an archive folder so there should be plenty of room in my inbox now.

[Western787]

Today's Stickman's first email of the week offers a nice retort to that adolescent's rants.

"The email from the guy in his mid-20s who writes,"The scene which is talked about may have been what most foreigners here did back then (I don't know) but it certainly isn't now, at least among people of my age." Yeah, I'm supposed to sound like the jaded old guy I am, but, OK pal. It's all great as you're a youthful stud who happens to be in Bangkok at the right time to meet Thai women who've shed many of their cultural proscriptions against co-mingling with farang, and now have communication vectors making it convenient. Let's hear from you in a decade or two, after maybe, just maybe, you've been raked over the coals by an avaricious family and your former teeruk has her golden parachute, your DNA in her kids. After you've grown weary of corruption / incompetence, built the house and learned you can't own the land, seen your fortune dwindle and learned how merciless Thai courts can be when it comes to divorce proceedings. Let's hope this doesn't happen. Plenty of happy couples out there. But in your mid-20s, you don't even know what the wringer looks like, let alone been through it. And yes, there are those whose chick magnet days are memories, who've been married / divorced / through the wringer yet we still want to enjoy life, intimacy, friendship and sex (OK, maybe not in that order). We're not ready for the grave yet, we're just closer than you are. And we're not deluded that women in their 20s (or even 30s) will tumble all over us because we are shit-hot farang like you. Guys in their 20s have no concept of life without mobile comms. The older guys will say, yeah, right on. The target audience will think, there's those old guys complaining about "the good old days" again. I've seen both ends. Have you? "

Figured that guy would get some response. The young guy comes across as very arrogant and condescending.

I have to admit Stickman is a very talented columnist, with an amazing amount of creative ideas going into produce that product each week.

He's got a reference this week to Gary Pucket and the Union Gap's song "Woman, Woman" a song that I hadn't heard in years until he linked it, and I think it hits harder than "Young Girl", and as Stickman correctly points out has some relevance to Bangkok women. Of course its good in some ways that Bangkok women tend to share themselves around town, even those claiming not to. Everyone needs variety, and it really means more beautiful women available for everyone

The lyrics to that hypnotic song sung by the great Gary Pucket:

Woman oh woman.
Have you got cheating on your mind, on your mind.
Something's wrong between us.
That your laugher cannot hide.
And you're afraid to let your eyes meet mine.
And lately when I love you, I know you're not satisfied.
Woman oh woman.
Have you got cheating on your mind, on your mind.
I've seen the way men look at you.
When they think I don't see.
And it hurts to have them think that you're that kind.
But it's knowing that you're looking back.
That's really killing me.
Woman oh woman.
Have you got cheating on your mind, on your mind.
A woman wears a certain look.
When she is on the move.
And a man can always tell what's on her mind.
I hate to have to say it.
But that look's all over you.
Woman oh woman.
Have you got cheating on your mind.
Oh woman oh woman.
Have you got cheating on your mind.

[Bart1]

Today's Stickman's first email of the week offers a nice retort to that adolescent's rants.

"The email from the guy in his mid-20s who writes,"The scene which is talked about may have been what most foreigners here did back then (I don't know) but it certainly isn't now, at least among people of my age." Yeah, I'm supposed to sound like the jaded old guy I am, but, OK pal. It's all great as you're a youthful stud who happens to be in Bangkok at the right time to meet Thai women who've shed many of their cultural proscriptions against co-mingling with farang, and now have communication vectors making it convenient. Let's hear from you in a decade or two, after maybe, just maybe, you've been raked over the coals by an avaricious family and your former teeruk has her golden parachute, your DNA in her kids. After you've grown weary of corruption / incompetence, built the house and learned you can't own the land, seen your fortune dwindle and learned how merciless Thai courts can be when it comes to divorce proceedings. Let's hope this doesn't happen. Plenty of happy couples out there. But in your mid-20s, you don't even know what the wringer looks like, let alone been through it. And yes, there are those whose chick magnet days are memories, who've been married / divorced / through the wringer yet we still want to enjoy life, intimacy, friendship and sex (OK, maybe not in that order). We're not ready for the grave yet, we're just closer than you are. And we're not deluded that women in their 20s (or even 30s) will tumble all over us because we are shit-hot farang like you. Guys in their 20s have no concept of life without mobile comms. The older guys will say, yeah, right on. The target audience will think, there's those old guys complaining about "the good old days" again. I've seen both ends. Have you? "

Hey paul your mailbox is full

[Paul Kausch]

Today's Stickman's first email of the week offers a nice retort to that adolescent's rants.

"The email from the guy in his mid-20s who writes,"The scene which is talked about may have been what most foreigners here did back then (I don't know) but it certainly isn't now, at least among people of my age." Yeah, I'm supposed to sound like the jaded old guy I am, but, OK pal. It's all great as you're a youthful stud who happens to be in Bangkok at the right time to meet Thai women who've shed many of their cultural proscriptions against co-mingling with farang, and now have communication vectors making it convenient. Let's hear from you in a decade or two, after maybe, just maybe, you've been raked over the coals by an avaricious family and your former teeruk has her golden parachute, your DNA in her kids. After you've grown weary of corruption / incompetence, built the house and learned you can't own the land, seen your fortune dwindle and learned how merciless Thai courts can be when it comes to divorce proceedings. Let's hope this doesn't happen. Plenty of happy couples out there. But in your mid-20s, you don't even know what the wringer looks like, let alone been through it. And yes, there are those whose chick magnet days are memories, who've been married / divorced / through the wringer yet we still want to enjoy life, intimacy, friendship and sex (OK, maybe not in that order). We're not ready for the grave yet, we're just closer than you are. And we're not deluded that women in their 20s (or even 30s) will tumble all over us because we are shit-hot farang like you. Guys in their 20s have no concept of life without mobile comms. The older guys will say, yeah, right on. The target audience will think, there's those old guys complaining about "the good old days" again. I've seen both ends. Have you? "

[Western787]

And it could be much worse if this prediction had happened 10 years back. From a post I spotted in 2003 archives by "GettingTang" posted 8-14-03 (#1165)

(report from year 2003 archives)

2 PART REPORT: SEX INDUSTRY CLOSING IN THAILAND!

First My buddy who resides in Thailand 6 months of each year since 1984, has dozens of Thai girlfriends and mongers at least twice on a weekly bases. He has just informed me that the Thai government is dead serious this go around about cracking down on the sex industry! He told me they have a 3 year goal to wipe clean the brothels and gogo bars servicing any form of sex, sex shows, or full nudity! He told me the ball game will be over in the coming 18 months. Sure we will always be able to find WG in the LOS, but it will never again be as open and robust as in the past. Angers me badly. To me when I went to Thailand and got off my long flight, it was like stepping into an absolute fantasy world, almost unbelievable. No place like it on earth. As much sex with beautiful women as any man can handle at any pace you want! Well, those days are coming to an end. He even told me they ran an undercover sting busting 17 locals using undercover decoys! They mean business this go around. Check the local papers, should be a story or two about the stings.

My friend also told me the girls are very worried, for many they do not and cannot take up refuge in the Thai slammer as they do this to feed themselves and their families!

Places like Jupiter and the Eden club will be shut down very soon, ole Marc might end up in the slammer himself, who knows.

It's a bad deal.

The Thai government did a huge economic analysis and came up with the following numbers in the report my friend sent to me.

1. The sex industry accounts for approx. 5.5% of the Thai GDP. A study done over 3 years by the Thai government itself.

2. Due to Thailand being recognized openly as the Sex Mecca of the world, they feel and estimate they are decreasing (yes decreasing) there GDP, from tourism and being viewed by most of the world for accepting this trade openly by some 17-19. The article went on to say, that by closing down the sex industry in Thailand it would set things back for a maximum of 2 years and then they would reap huge rewards from foreign endorsements and growth by cleaning up their act. This would be in the tune of some 17-19% increase in GDP!

They are dead serious this go around. Many governments today are indeed deeply influenced by Women, therefore these same women will applaud when Thailand cleans up their house by offering support! Thailand knows this now!

They are also forming a huge task-force of some 1200 officers in Bangkok alone, for the sole purpose of closing down the sex industry for good! Yes, they even plan to imprison Farangs. Boys, you better go get that tang right away, it's about to loose it's juices!

GETTINGTANG !

[Western787]

Wow! Exactly. They are very arrogant. You said it well. But, hey most folks are when they are in their 20s. But you do have to admit, he has a point. It is a great thing that Thai folks have more opportunities.

The difference between now and then; I was 34 when I first came in '99. I was not only one of the youngest guys in the bars, I was one of the younger Farangs in BKK. Most expats were older and certainly most dudes in the bars were older. And almost all farangs guys back then frequented the bars. One of the reasons I choose to move to Thailand was I saw how good these older guys had it. It is very different now. Most of the older guys I see are with older girls.

Now there are scads of 20 something farang guys running around and yes, most have the above attitude about P4P.

Japanese guys are a contrast though. Go to Thermae and you will see lots of young Asian guys. They have no issue with P4P and tend to enjoy it. I know several young Japanese guys from the music scene and they love P4P. Of course they were not raised with the current anti-male feminist crap that many of the young farang dudes were.

The gogo scene has become theater. It is like Bourbon St in NOLA. It becomes more and more a tourist attraction each year.

Lets look at what he said: "almost all of my friends of similar age who live and work in Bangkok do not go to gogo bar areas EXCEPT occasionally FOR A LAUGH if someone new comes and we take them to SEE THE BARS AND TYPES OF FOREIGNERS WHO GO THERE. We CERTAINLY don't go to take women. It isn't because it's seen as wrong, but mostly that there is no chance we would pay money to sleep with women WHO LOOK AS BAD as MOST OF THE BAR WOMEN DO, THEY ARE AWFUL"

Let me skip the politeness: basically the oh so superior smug arrogant condescending little prick doesn't go to bars EXCEPT if "someone new comes" to take them to see the bars and laugh at and put down the zoo animals, the bar girls and their customers

[Goatscrot]

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Stick.k-Songkran.htm.[/url]

Wow! Exactly. They are very arrogant. You said it well. But, hey most folks are when they are in their 20s. But you do have to admit, he has a point. It is a great thing that Thai folks have more opportunities.

The difference between now and then; I was 34 when I first came in '99. I was not only one of the youngest guys in the bars, I was one of the younger Farangs in BKK. Most expats were older and certainly most dudes in the bars were older. And almost all farangs guys back then frequented the bars. One of the reasons I choose to move to Thailand was I saw how good these older guys had it. It is very different now. Most of the older guys I see are with older girls.

Now there are scads of 20 something farang guys running around and yes, most have the above attitude about P4P.

Japanese guys are a contrast though. Go to Thermae and you will see lots of young Asian guys. They have no issue with P4P and tend to enjoy it. I know several young Japanese guys from the music scene and they love P4P. Of course they were not raised with the current anti-male feminist crap that many of the young farang dudes were.

The gogo scene has become theater. It is like Bourbon St in NOLA. It becomes more and more a tourist attraction each year.