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[Brazil Specialist]

i do. look at goldentime, they now have a limit on age (over 21) and a limit on certain nationality's working in the club. they never had that before, why now? could it be the senior girls grouped together and got this new house rule passed? i think something along those lines happened. i know they have several female counter workers, have to wonder what kind of pull they have with the owner and managers? you also say middle aged working ladies which gives the impression mid 40's (which is incorrect). its the late 20's, early 30's girls who are losing their looks who benefit by keeping the competition from entering the club. funny how it was ok for them to start working at the age of 19 but not for the new girls.

ask yourself this, would a male owner of a club actually say "hey, lets put these restrictions on the new girls". it just doesn't fit, money is king and the hotter the talent, the better the turnout. now it would be interesting if gt put a notice up that restricted women over the age of 30 from working in their club.

funny, i first read they might put up a note to restrict women under 30 from the club. that might happen in the near future.

the site www.theantifeminist.com and the sites in his blogroll deal with sex hysteria, history of feminism. he espouses the theory of feminism as a sexual trade union, where old hags make laws and invent stories (like trafficking) to make sure their men can not enjoy young lasses.

the antifeminist says: all feminists are [CodeWord127].

feminists prevent men from having sex not only with girls under an ever increasing age of consent, but also with their 30 year old secretaries (harassment laws and "power differential" restrictions), with women who are a bit tipsy, etc.

all this with the purpose to force men to have sex with the older hags. thus it is [CodeWord123].

ever since women got the vote, their first actions was to close brothels and to increase the age of consent. it used to be around 12, world wide, before about 1900. ever since feminists have been working hard to increase it. spain just increased it from 12 to 16.

germany, as far as i understand has age of consent 14. note that age of consent does not mean that girls that age should have sex.

it means that it is not necessary for government to meddle in private affairs and it is up to parents to watch and educate their kids over the age of consent.

feminists also try hard to restrict porn, every possible sexual outlet. though it has been proven by serious academic peer reviewed researcher milton diamond, that prohibiting porn causes more [CodeWord124] and sex crimes.

note also:

mandatory 15 years jail for photos of legal girl friend: you can have sex with them; just don't photograph them:

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-do...hotograph-them

+1. excellent point.

and in response to the other poster, i doubt that this "movement" is coming from middle-aged working ladies trying to suppress the younger ones. you don't really believe that do you? do you think that 18 year olds are going to protest for their right to hook?


raising the age is a societal issue. hooking isn't like other jobs, so justifying standards as such is not an appropriate comparison. you can't compare the right to hook to the right to work at mcdonalds. it involves selling an intimate part of yourself that you can never get back. it has effects down the line in terms of your personality and beliefs, as well as very real health risks. all of this on someone who has barely reached the threshold of an adult level maturity. if you think back to when you became 18, you didn't suddenly become instantly wiser. i didn't know crap about life when i was 18.

in addition, there will always be an illegal market for girls below the legal limit. we all know that. at least if the legal age is 21, then the ones who sneak by under the radar or are traffiked are still over 18.

look, i understand the logic. there are some very mature 18 years olds, and yes, some really need the money, and yes, there is an additional factor of safety when its legal. but given the unique nature of the job and its far reaching consequences, i think that an additional safety factor of 3 years is reasonable. i am not going to preach and say that its unethical at 18, but that the suggestion of raising the age to 21 makes common sense and is probably a good idea.

we make compromises in society all the time. here in the usa, the legal age to drive is often 16, but the right to drink is over 21. i think that putting in a 3 year safety factor, at the risk of offending all those 18 year olds demanding their right to hook, is a reasonable compromise.

see the links above, about the sexual trade union theory.

i just had an aging professional hit on me, she must have been way over 35. she said that young girls are very immature. when i said that maybe the minimum age in the fkk should be 25, she wholeheartedly agreed.

now, trafficking is the favorite lie of feminists, repeated for a century.

the most famous trafficking activist, that spoke in the united nations general assembly and in the white house has been proven a fraud. this was on the cover of time (or newsweek).

somaly mam: her own story is a lie. she had auditions for girls to train to tell sob stories to a gullible press and international institutions.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/06/s...f-personality/

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-do...afficking-hoax

http://mythofsextrafficking.********.ch/ sorry this was censored out, it had the word blog followed by the word spot.

it is all lies, by feminists allied with religious zealots, to prevent men from having sex.

there are a few articles about sex trafficking hoaxes during super bowl, where they claim there are thousands and no trafficked women are found.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...in_time_fo.php

http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-02-...titution-hoax/

recently britain had a several month long intense nationwide police hunt for trafficked women and found about three.

age restriction is sensitive topic because it is true to say that when you are 18 years old, you are more naive and easily drown into temptation via wrong intention of others, and in the area of prostitution so called pimp or similar character is the one who try to convince naive girls into prostitution. this always has been the problem that is why fkk was legalized and controlled to secure working girls, and also us mongers.

for us, it is better with age restriction at 18 years old, but rationally speaking, raising it to 21 do make sense to certain extent. you are your own boss of life, but you cannot expect all 18 years old girls to be mature as 21 years old. they could still be naive.

well you can not expect all 21 year olds to be as mature as 30 year olds. they still could be naive. i would say, real wisdom is only acquired by the age of 70.

i stated it before: 18-21 year old girls are far more often trafficked than girls above 21. that is the main reason. for me.

if there is a legal age for a profession. why should that be a violation of agg?

hb.

as pointed out above, almost all trafficking stories are elaborate hoaxes, a conspiracy.

if trafficking is almost non-existent, if it is a feminist hoax, then there are not more 18 to 21 year old girls trafficked.

and also, there are certainly more 21 to 45 year old girls traficked then 50 to 70 year olds. so we should only allow girls over 50.

furthermore, if we have trafficked unfree people that make jogging shoes, we do not outlaw jogging shoes altogether. or put the minimum age for jogging shoe factory workers up to 21 or 25.

also, giving talent work visas to 18 year old illegals could stop sex trafficking of girls who are not allowed to do the sex work they want to do and thus get trafficked willingly.

some other potential sex trafficking has to do with men threatening a girl's family in their home country. this needs to be fought by putting the home country in order. prostitutes are better prey for extortion rackets because they earn more then a construction helper. but it does not have anything to do with prostitution per se.

[Mr Ho]

It's going to be like 25 km from Berlin city center. Hope it will be more successful than Paradise in Saarbrcken.

HB.

Which means, if I like that new FKK in Potsdam, I just shift my base hotel in Potsdam. I guess hotel rate is cheaper in Potsdam, so that may serve my interest.

It seems it will be bigger than Artemis. It even says it will have casino. Which I do not care much as I am already gambling with girls how good their service will be in the room.

Sometimes I hit Jackpot and I get more than fkk house promised to clients. Sometimes, not. , but when I hit jackpot and make right decision choosing right girl, it is worth it.

It will even be more competition for FKk artemis, if this new fkk decides to set their entrance fee and session fee with girls cheaper than Artemis!

[Hessen Bub]

It's going to be like 25 km from Berlin city center. Hope it will be more successful than Paradise in Saarbrücken.

HB.

[Mr Ho]

Somebody must have heard your wishes! A new FKK Grand Plaza is about to open in the Potsdam area, officially the 15th of October. I highly anticipate more competition for Artemis and their high pricelevel!

http://www.fkk-sauna-clubs.de/potsda...and-plaza.html

This is good news Potsdam is not that not hard to leach, but is still far out of Berlin, but the question is that if this club is close to public train station or not? I think that may decide how convenient it would be international monger who do not want to rent car and drive in Germany.

Artemis is easy to leach both by taxi and public transport and for this reason, artemis had been real convenient to me.

However, there will be competition for Artemis, so they need to improve somethings to keep repeating customers.

Opening of new big (scale fkk has synergy affect that should lead to increase in level of girls and should put smile on our face.

[Diet Coke]

Somebody must have heard your wishes! A new FKK Grand Plaza is about to open in the Potsdam area, officially the 15th of October. I highly anticipate more competition for Artemis and their high pricelevel!

http://www.fkk-sauna-clubs.de/potsda...and-plaza.html

It will be interesting when info is available on prices. Also whether easily reached by public transport plus walking or short taxi.

[Sucker17]

Somebody must have heard your wishes! A new FKK Grand Plaza is about to open in the Potsdam area, officially the 15th of October. I highly anticipate more competition for Artemis and their high pricelevel!

http://www.fkk-sauna-clubs.de/potsda...and-plaza.html

Haha, I always thought German FKK is more like demand being stronger than supply, but it is surprising to know that they make such offers for birthday.

Berlin need bit more competition because there is just Artemis. Berlin need other big FKK club and I feel there is demand for it in Berlin considering it is one of man tourist destination in Germany and considering the messe / trade shows that takes place there in frequent basis.

[Mambomike]

No one told you this, but if you get free entry on your birthday, they line up all the girls to give you a spanking.

I will be in Frankfurt on my birthday and I just wonder which clubs give you free entry on your birthday? I know this question has been asked by others but I can't seem to find the answers for Frankfurt clubs like Oase, World, Mainhattan, Palace or Sharks. I will be in a hotel close to Mainhattan.

[Sucker17]

Thank you for the replies. I managed to find info about the NRW clubs but since I'll be in Frankfurt due to work it won't be possible to visit those clubs. I guess Palace is possible, but I am a bit hesitant about going there. The last time was no thrill to be exact.

[Mr Ho]

I will be in Frankfurt on my birthday and I just wonder which clubs give you free entry on your birthday? I know this question has been asked by others but I can't seem to find the answers for Frankfurt clubs like Oase, World, Mainhattan, Palace or Sharks. I will be in a hotel close to Mainhattan.

Haha, I always thought German FKK is more like demand being stronger than supply, but it is surprising to know that they make such offers for birthday.

Berlin need bit more competition because there is just Artemis. Berlin need other big FKK club and I feel there is demand for it in Berlin considering it is one of man tourist destination in Germany and considering the messe / trade shows that takes place there in frequent basis.

[Breadman]

In Hessen, Palace and Mainhattan are reported to offer free entry on birthday. World is reported to give you a free bottle of prosecco (you get a voucher from reception after showing your identification; you give the voucher to the bar).

I know Palace offers you free entry and Sharks 20 euro's off the entry price but I've never heard of free entry at Mainhattan or the deal at World. Since Mainhattan was the sister club of World, I would think it unlikely one would offer free entrance and the other a bottle of prosecco.

Other clubs that offer free entrance are Yin Yang, Goldentime, Living Room, Samya and Bernds.

[UltraHappy]

I will be in Frankfurt on my birthday and I just wonder which clubs give you free entry on your birthday? I know this question has been asked by others but I can't seem to find the answers for Frankfurt clubs like Oase, World, Mainhattan, Palace or Sharks. I will be in a hotel close to Mainhattan.

In Hessen, Palace and Mainhattan are reported to offer free entry on birthday. World is reported to give you a free bottle of prosecco (you get a voucher from reception after showing your identification; you give the voucher to the bar).

Or so it has been reported.

I personally would not celebrate my birthday in Palace even with the offer of free entry.

Plenty of clubs in NRW offer free entry on birthday.

I ran a search of the forum using the keywords "free" and "birthday. " After eliminating a few bogus results, here are some posts with relevant information:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...794&viewfull=1#post1544794.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...836&viewfull=1#post1523836.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...130&viewfull=1#post1508130.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...611&viewfull=1#post1507611.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...957&viewfull=1#post1495957.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...056&viewfull=1#post1494056.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...085&viewfull=1#post1391085.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...003&viewfull=1#post1391003.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...784&viewfull=1#post1389784.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...141&viewfull=1#post1344141.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...070&viewfull=1#post1344070.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...545&viewfull=1#post1334545.

There are plenty more posts on this subject but I quit looking after the first page of results.

[Sucker17]

I will be in Frankfurt on my birthday and I just wonder which clubs give you free entry on your birthday? I know this question has been asked by others but I can't seem to find the answers for Frankfurt clubs like Oase, World, Mainhattan, Palace or Sharks. I will be in a hotel close to Mainhattan.

[Hessen Bub]

I do. Look at Goldentime, they now have a limit on age (over 21) and a limit on certain nationality's working in the club. They never had that before, why now? Could it be the senior girls grouped together and got this new house rule passed?

No, that is bullshit re the age restrictions. That is an agreement between the authorities and the club. Same thing as Palace in Frankfurt and AFAIK also Paradise in Stuttgart. For girls under 21 there are stricter and different criteria that apply when it comes to defining if a girl is trafficked or not. And that is German law. Having girls under 21 banned from the club may save the club a lot of trouble. Weren't there some checks and raids at GT?

HB.

[Hessen Bub]

Google "the myth of sex-trafficking". Some interesting stuff out there.

You probably also believe in the chemtrails theory.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemt...spiracy_theory

HB.

[Manny51]

wrong. it is a dead loss to individual girls as they can make a packet when they're young. by the time they're 18 many will already have lost a lot of money they could've made earlier. imagine taking the 3 or 5 best years out of anyone's career by preventing them to be gainfully employed.

maturity is neither here nor there with women. females are officially children anyway (female hypoagency). females are victims (while men are predators). females never do anything of their own volition, they're always forced into it (it = prostitution, marriage, sex, work). females become x-rated actresses when they're 20 and when they become 40 and past it, they sue the whole world on the grounds that they were traumatised and forced into sucking cock when they were young. women get raped and beaten (you and me are [CodeWord127] and brutes you see). this will never end. zillions of years ago, women didn't have the right to vote, so you can't change the past. feminism is a perpetual revolution, literally. and older women have only one enemy in society: younger women.

and of course because women are such victims, society should compensate them by taking money away from you through taxation.

google "the myth of sex-trafficking". some interesting stuff out there.

i detect a note of sarcasm / satire between the lines of your post. which is fine. i get it. i also think that, in today's progressive society, the cries of [CodeWord123] and [CodeWord908] are a little bit overdone. not that it doesn't happen, but its certainly a much better situation overall than say 20 years ago.

of course we want younger prettier girls, as would the fkk owners. and true, we would be depriving them of some early age income. that being said, hessenbub makes the point it is precisely the youngest and naive of the women, who are the most valued by men and the most susceptible to people who would take advantage of them somehow, whether by force or not. i think its easy to forget how naive we all were at 18. and to coldly say, "well they are 18 now and an adult, and i like young pussy. " that's a little cold. even in a libertarian society, we should have some sense of community in the world, and maybe protect these young women from themselves. i am willing to bet that some women who go into the profession later regret it in life, for various reasons. maybe an additional 3 years might help those women identify themselves. and for those women who are all for the sex, there will be still plenty of horny guys.