Medellin Reports

[Vegas Jeff]

Well tonight is my last night in Medellin. I will be headed to Cartagena for a few nights. As always, the Mansion was fun. We got all the support we needed and I 100% will be back.

Viper 10.

Nice reports, Viper.

You are doing everything right IMO. You got out and saw some of the the city's different P4P venues. You might have blown too much money for mediocre results at La Isla but you never would known anything about the place if you didn't go there and experience the girls at least once, right? I applaud you for getting out there and having another experience to compare to your others.

I also want to add that you are not a sucker for getting involved and spending money on the party. The guys who didn't chip in are cheapskates and / or disconnected and don't get it IMSO. As you said a gesture would have been nice. For you new guys who are staying at The Mansion. If you see food in the common areas for the girls, that sh*t didn't just appear by magic. Offer to kick in a few pesos. As I always say be a gentleman, don't be cheap, and repeat habits that work.

Continued luck with the rest of your journey.

[Old Parr]

Blue Change. Thanks for your response. I am not concerned about what the girls think of my height, just concerned about finding petite girls. I am aware that it is over 2400 pesos to the US Dollar so Columbia would be an excellent value now.

I contacted the Mansion about using the bar without staying at the hotel and this is the response I got:

"The bar its only for guest but when we are fully booked we make a few exceptions, if you are in town email us and we can ask if this can be done. Please keep in mind if you do come there is a cover fee of $50.000 COP. "

While the Mansion is available the first night I would be in town, after that I would have to find other arrangements and hope that the Mansion lets me use the bar. I see ColumbiaJake has good reviews for tours and assisting gringos, but the concept of a complete monger hotel like the Mansion is pretty compelling and it seems like I screwed up by waiting to book this trip. Given this I may go with Costa Rica (I did find a few reviews on the Costa Rica Forum comparing Columbia to Costa Rica, the one from Chris Long in September 2013 is pretty detailed and not that favorable to Costa Rica). Any other advice or thoughts from the Forum would be greatly appreciated.

If it's your first time and your Spanish is only so-so, given that the Mansion is booked, you may want to give Cartagena a try for a maiden voyage to Colombia. What are your dates? Many times a guy can meet-up with a fellow monger there to get a quick run-down on things and have a great time on his own even though it's his first time.

Again, if the Mansion weren't booked, then you'd be set, but with not being able to stay there, you may want to consider Cartagena.

What Hilltopper forgot to include in his post is that Cartagena is twice as expensive for basically everything, and if you think that you are going to be better off in Cartagena because of the language factor forget it. It is no different in Cartagena than it is in Medellin. My advice to you is to stay in Medellin, as I am sure you will enjoy your stay much more than you would if going to Cartagena and spending a fortune. Also staying at the Mansion or whatever it is now called your first night you will have the opportunity to meet others who can share there knowledge with you. I think Hilltopper is asking you to come to Cartagena possibly because he is looking for a date.

[NCal2014]

Hey man good TR. It never even crossed my mind to throw your own party like you own the place. I'm sure by now maybe some more guys have thrown more cash in the hat. Maybe they ran out of cash late at night and only had 150 k left for their chica fee. I know that happened to me once or twice where I took money out early went shopping etc and forgot to go back to the ATM at night. For a party with 30+ chicas and free booze. It should be 150 k min per guy. More if they had a good time. Just to show the gesture of appreciation to you and Robert and the house staff. I have a few questions I hope you don't mind me sending you a PM. How many guys were there? For 30 chicas you would need at least 12-15 guys. I would think. My buddies are now asking me to take them on a trip there. We might do the same as you did. I already have a ton of ideas. BTW you should've had as much free sex from any of the girls as a thank you for the invite to the party. Just my 2 cents. Great tr. Any pics?

[SavePros321]

Of course the free boos for the girls turned into free boos for the guys also. Mind you I have no problem offering to all the guys, but I must say I was surprised how little offers I got. One doctor who is a stand up guy offered to buy a bottle and ended up buying 2 bottles. Another guy put in 100 k. Other than that, not one other guy even offered money or to buy a bottle. Nothing. It's really not about the money. It's more of the gesture. I was really really surprised guys didn't offer anything. Oh well.

Most of us are probably surprised that you were surprised, LOL. You paid for all the booze and paid 20k to each chica that came. All the guys had to do were show up! If it were anywhere other than the mansion you could have easily have had a sausage fest (too many bros, not enough hoez) on your hand.

The way I have always seen those kind of parties done in the past is to have the guys pay 30-50 k if they want to get into the party. That way you don't have to expect them to be on the honor system (asking them to contribute something).

Just don't do like a few sleeze bags have done in the past: charge guys to get in and then ask them to split the final bill with you at the end of the night.

[Bart1]

The cambio at Oviedo is paying 2125 pesos to the dollar today. Meanwhile an ATM withdrawal netted me about 2330. I think you can do better with a Schwab account. The published rate today is 2444. Bringing cash is not a good idea in the current environment. Use a no-fee or low-fee ATM card. Another option is to send yourself money via xoom.com, they post 2327 today, minus a $5 fee.

Goggle "is xoom safe company" and read some reports before using them.

[Viper10]

Today my buddy and I visited Energy. I was very impressed with the place. Very clean and we got there right when all the hotties were available. I must admit I didn't expect such a solid lineup. Pricing is 130 k for the hour, which includes a shower, massage and everything else. I paid my girl a tip of 50 k for a BBBJ and CIM. My buddy also had a great experience. We just couldn't believe for $60 you get an hour of this.

We slept until 7:30 pm and then got ready for La Cueva. It was Sunday night so Cueva was dead. We decided to hit the strip clubs. We hit San Diego first where there was definitely some talent. My buddies wanted to see La Isla since it is talked about so much. We had a bottle and red bulls at San Diego and on the CC came out to 283 k pesos. They charge 16% surcharge for CC. We headed to La Isla and it was closed. Bummer. We then went to Fase II. Not bad. Some quality there. 2 of my friend liked Fase II better and 2 of us myself included liked San Diego. We had a bottle there and I think it was around 350 k for just the bottle, no red bulls or anything. They charged 10% surcharge for putting it on a credit card. When it was nearing their closing time of 2 am, we started to negotiate with 3 girls. All of them had no problem leaving after 2 am, skipping the house fee and coming short time for 200 k. So we negotiated 200 k each for ST and then told them if we wanted them all night we would pay more. Result? Nobody really clicked with their girl. They were ok. It's hard to get a good GF experience with strippers that you just met for an hour. We didn't get time to party and relax and really get into it with them. So what do you get? Mediocre results.

Day 4.

We had set up a party at La Cueva for a couple days. I am sure someone will write up how awesome it was. Pretty much everyone we talked to said it was the most talent and the busiest they have ever seen it. It was incredible. We promised 30 girls with of course the help from Robert 20 k pesos each for coming. That was their taxi money. We had expected to also order pizzas for everyone but once the party started we said forget it. We will put that money in prizes. We had promised 500 k in prizes in the promotion of the party. I would think that we had more than 30 girls last night there. Quality was really good. Everyone had a good time. We ended up giving a little bit more than a million in prizes. We had drinking contests, best tits contests, biggest tits contests, smallest tits contests, best ass contest, best dance, and of course the birthday cake celebration where one girl was full of whip cream and my buddy who's birthday party it was got to lick it up. Of course it wasn't really his birthday, we just said that. LOL. We had free boos for the girls. I will get the bill tonight, but it won't be pretty. At least 3 gallons of Aguadiente, who knows how many tequila bottles, and they ran out of absolute vodka that's how much we drank. LOL. Of course the free boos for the girls turned into free boos for the guys also. Mind you I have no problem offering to all the guys, but I must say I was surprised how little offers I got. One doctor who is a stand up guy offered to buy a bottle and ended up buying 2 bottles. Another guy put in 100 k. Other than that, not one other guy even offered money or to buy a bottle. Nothing. It's really not about the money. It's more of the gesture. I was really really surprised guys didn't offer anything. Oh well.

In review, the party turned out to be a blast. I have to say I really do think more than 30 girls showed up. Everyone had a great time and all of us got awesome girls to go home with. Funny, every other day there was at least one three some in one of the rooms. And yesterday, the day that there was more girls than any other night, no one got a three some. LOL. Go figure. Well tonight is my last night in Medellin. I will be headed to Cartagena for a few nights. As always, the Mansion was fun. We got all the support we needed and I 100% will be back.

Viper 10.

[PianoPlayer]

The cambio at Oviedo is paying 2125 pesos to the dollar today. Meanwhile an ATM withdrawal netted me about 2330. I think you can do better with a Schwab account. The published rate today is 2444. Bringing cash is not a good idea in the current environment. Use a no-fee or low-fee ATM card. Another option is to send yourself money via xoom.com, they post 2327 today, minus a $5 fee.

[Hilltopper]

Blue Change. Thanks for your response. I am not concerned about what the girls think of my height, just concerned about finding petite girls. I am aware that it is over 2400 pesos to the US Dollar so Columbia would be an excellent value now.

I contacted the Mansion about using the bar without staying at the hotel and this is the response I got:

"The bar its only for guest but when we are fully booked we make a few exceptions, if you are in town email us and we can ask if this can be done. Please keep in mind if you do come there is a cover fee of $50.000 COP. "

While the Mansion is available the first night I would be in town, after that I would have to find other arrangements and hope that the Mansion lets me use the bar. I see ColumbiaJake has good reviews for tours and assisting gringos, but the concept of a complete monger hotel like the Mansion is pretty compelling and it seems like I screwed up by waiting to book this trip. Given this I may go with Costa Rica (I did find a few reviews on the Costa Rica Forum comparing Columbia to Costa Rica, the one from Chris Long in September 2013 is pretty detailed and not that favorable to Costa Rica). Any other advice or thoughts from the Forum would be greatly appreciated.

If it's your first time and your Spanish is only so-so, given that the Mansion is booked, you may want to give Cartagena a try for a maiden voyage to Colombia. What are your dates? Many times a guy can meet-up with a fellow monger there to get a quick run-down on things and have a great time on his own even though it's his first time.

Again, if the Mansion weren't booked, then you'd be set, but with not being able to stay there, you may want to consider Cartagena.

[SavePros321]

I think that most of the members that talk about FB Chicas just want to know about the average cost 100,000 is about the norm from the ones I have chatted with but not very many here share things here.

That would be useful other than the escorts and massage but if we share we could have more of a idea of what to expect.

"From the ones I have chatted with".

Then another guy comes along and says "average 80k from the ones I've chatted with. " Then another comes along and says "average 180k..."

Which is why I said it is bettter to just ask the chica for yourself. If a chica tells you 100k on facebook, and in another message tells your buddy 250k because she thinks he is a fat slob, then posting averages isn't going to be very helpful. But you'd have to know she was a mansion chica to begin with.

Not the same in an environment like the Mansion were the prices do not vary much from chica to chica, if at all. Chicas you meet on Facebook are independents who can charge what they want. If she also happens to be a chica that does business at the Mansion, then you have something better to go by. But you'd have to know she was a mansion chica to begin with.

[Optic Guard]

"FB Chica" is a misnomer: they don't work for Facebook, LOL.

As far as a chica that you met on Facebook? Whatever the two of you decide on. I would work it out before inviting her over so that there is no misunderstanding though, because if she arrives and you were thinking 70k and she was thinking 250k, you've just wasted each other's time (and it already takes them forever to get to your place due to traffic).

Don't worry about guys telling you "don't pay more than this or that. " The only guys that have to worry about other guys over paying and spoiling the market are the guys that stay at puterias like the Mansion. Medellin is a HUGE city. Any one chica holding out for 300 k will lose business to all of the other chicas willing to take much less. The only place that 300k demanding chica can stay in business (as an independent) are places like San Jose (CR) or Panama.

The flip side to that is if you come there acting like a Cheap Charlie, chicas are not going to go out of their way to come and meet you. You'd be better off going to El Centro or La Mayorista for 35k fucks.

I think that most of the members that talk about FB Chicas just want to know about the average cost 100,000 is about the norm from the ones I have chatted with but not very many here share things here.

That would be useful other than the escorts and massage but if we share we could have more of a idea of what to expect.

[SavePros321]

What are you guys paying for a FB Chica to visit your apt these days?

"FB Chica" is a misnomer: they don't work for Facebook, LOL.

As far as a chica that you met on Facebook? Whatever the two of you decide on. I would work it out before inviting her over so that there is no misunderstanding though, because if she arrives and you were thinking 70k and she was thinking 250k, you've just wasted each other's time (and it already takes them forever to get to your place due to traffic).

Don't worry about guys telling you "don't pay more than this or that. " The only guys that have to worry about other guys over paying and spoiling the market are the guys that stay at puterias like the Mansion. Medellin is a HUGE city. Any one chica holding out for 300 k will lose business to all of the other chicas willing to take much less. The only place that 300k demanding chica can stay in business (as an independent) are places like San Jose (CR) or Panama.

The flip side to that is if you come there acting like a Cheap Charlie, chicas are not going to go out of their way to come and meet you. You'd be better off going to El Centro or La Mayorista for 35k fucks.

[Iguana Six]

Answers below.

Hi,

Sorry for adding newbie questions to your forum, but I will soon have 4 days free after a business trip to Panama and I am trying to decide between Medellin and Costa Rica. However the Mansion is fully booked for several nights when I will be in town.

*Don't let that stop you. If both Mansion properties are booked, try renting an apartment close by. There are a couple of outfits that offer short term rentals of furnished, turn key apartments in the neighborhood.*

My questions:

1. From Forum reports, the Mansion bar seems to be a favorite place, do you have to be staying there enjoy the bar and premises?

*No. When they are booked, it is possible to pay a cover charge to enter la Cueva. I have heard it is about 40 pesos.*

2. There aren't that many reports that compare Medellin to Costa Rica (San Jose / Jaco Beach), but those that do seem to put the Medellin girls fairly far ahead. Is this something that can be dealt with by just paying more for higher quality in Costa Rica or is the talent just not available? Anyone with experience in both places care to weigh in?

*Paisitas are gorgeous and most are unspoiled. There is no comparison. The 50th percentile Medellin girl is more attractive than than the top 5 percentile San Jose girl. The Colombianas that come to San Jose are usually at the top of the game in the San Jose venue, and even those are 10 years older, much more jaded, and much more mercenary when they were 10 years younger and just getting their toes wet locally in Medellin. Think of it this way. You have two friends you went to high school with. Both were interested in the military. One joins the local national guard unit, goes to weekend drill for few years, and never deploys overseas. He never leaves town, so you hang out with him and he is still the same guy you hung out with in high school. The other, you don't see until the 10 year high school reunion. After he enlisted, he became some kind of commando, spent many years overseas, has the scars to prove it, and occasionally wakes up with nightmares. He is not the same kid you went to school with. So, imagine the difference between young Colombiana who is 20 and comes to the Mansion once in a while vs. the 30 year old, plastic enhanced, battle scarred veteran you will encounter at the Blue Marlin Bar in San Jose? or the massage parlor in Panama? Or the casino at the Veneto hotel in Panama? *

3. Costa Rica seems to have a lot of good daytime non-mongering activities (beach, surfing, ATVs, etc.) however the recent Medellin reports and the Medellin Reports of Distinction really don't seem to give much if any info on non-mongering daytime activities (other than walking around a nice mountain city and seeing Pablo Escobar's haunts, what is there to do during the day other than visit the Casas?

*The weather if beautiful, the Poblado area is safe, and you can go to most parts of the city in the day time and not worry about crime. The food is good, the shopping is nice. What would you do if you visited San Francisco? Take the cable cars and enjoy the views. Ride the metro train. There is a paint ball place in the hills above Poblado. See a movie. Enjoy the food (the vegetables, grown in that rich, volcanic soil are incredible - not that near-hydroponic shredded cardboard stuff you buy back home.) Get your shoes shined. Eat in the local holes-in-wall. Get some tailoring done. But mostly, walk around and smell the fresh mountain air, watch the locals go about doing their daily routines, take a spanish speaking buddy and ride the buses and taxis. Get a map and explore. (for safety's sake remember the old adage "Nothing good happens after xx O'clock, so get back home before things get dangerous.) Hit the gym in the mall and enjoy the eye candy. It's a vacation. Rest and recreation. Get a manicure and pedicure. Get a haircut and a massage. Recharge before you go back to the grind. *

FYI. I am a 40 year old, fit normal English speaking gringo looking for a quality trip (good quality pros) and not on a budget or very concerned about pricing. I am also a fairly short guy and most of my mongering experiences have been with Asian spinners. Obviously I realize that is not an option in Latin America, but are petite girls pretty common in these places? Finally, I will be travelling alone. Not sure if this impacts the choice of one location over another.

*Would not worry about. There are many nice little spinners in town.*

Thanks in advance for any responses. I know I am a noob, but I have tried to read the Forums and ask reasonably focused questions.

[FarmWorker]

What are you guys paying for a FB Chica to visit your apt these days?

[Hutzesq]

Hi,

Sorry for adding newbie questions to your forum, but I will soon have 4 days free after a business trip to Panama and I am trying to decide between Medellin and Costa Rica. It seemed that booking 4 days at the Mansion was the obvious choice for a non-Spanish speaking noob like me (if only my high school Spanish textbook had pictures from this forum instead of stupid cartoon bullfighters, I am sure I would be fluent). However the Mansion is fully booked for several nights when I will be in town. My questions:

1. From Forum reports, the Mansion bar seems to be a favorite place, do you have to be staying there enjoy the bar and premises?

2. There aren't that many reports that compare Medellin to Costa Rica (San Jose / Jaco Beach), but those that do seem to put the Medellin girls fairly far ahead. Is this something that can be dealt with by just paying more for higher quality in Costa Rica or is the talent just not available? Anyone with experience in both places care to weigh in...

Blue Change. Thanks for your response. I am not concerned about what the girls think of my height, just concerned about finding petite girls. I am aware that it is over 2400 pesos to the US Dollar so Columbia would be an excellent value now.

I contacted the Mansion about using the bar without staying at the hotel and this is the response I got:

"The bar its only for guest but when we are fully booked we make a few exceptions, if you are in town email us and we can ask if this can be done. Please keep in mind if you do come there is a cover fee of $50.000 COP. "

While the Mansion is available the first night I would be in town, after that I would have to find other arrangements and hope that the Mansion lets me use the bar. I see ColumbiaJake has good reviews for tours and assisting gringos, but the concept of a complete monger hotel like the Mansion is pretty compelling and it seems like I screwed up by waiting to book this trip. Given this I may go with Costa Rica (I did find a few reviews on the Costa Rica Forum comparing Columbia to Costa Rica, the one from Chris Long in September 2013 is pretty detailed and not that favorable to Costa Rica). Any other advice or thoughts from the Forum would be greatly appreciated.

[PapaJoe]

Hi,

Sorry for adding newbie questions to your forum, but I will soon have 4 days free after a business trip to Panama and I am trying to decide between Medellin and Costa Rica. It seemed that booking 4 days at the Mansion was the obvious choice for a non-Spanish speaking noob like me (if only my high school Spanish textbook had pictures from this forum instead of stupid cartoon bullfighters, I am sure I would be fluent). However the Mansion is fully booked for several nights when I will be in town. My questions:

1. From Forum reports, the Mansion bar seems to be a favorite place, do you have to be staying there enjoy the bar and premises?

2. There aren't that many reports that compare Medellin to Costa Rica (San Jose / Jaco Beach), but those that do seem to put the Medellin girls fairly far ahead. Is this something that can be dealt with by just paying more for higher quality in Costa Rica or is the talent just not available? Anyone with experience in both places care to weigh in?..

From what I recall the Cueva and pool at the Mansion are for guest only. Since this would be your first trip to MDE, the Mansion is full, and your Spanish leaves something to be desired I would do SJO.