Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[Red Kilt]

Anyone ever heard about the Pinay Walks website? What is it about?

It is a quaint expression used by a group of girls in the Philippines.

"Going for a walk" means going out to look for a guy for sex to help pay a bill.

It is not in common use and used more by the educated classes.

It is a euphemism that doesn't sound as crass as "going out to get laid" or " I need to get cash to pay a bill so I will find a guy for sex".

Pinay Walks is a variation on Craig's List

[Fredje1961]

Anyone ever heard about the Pinay Walks website? What is it about?

[Wicked Roger]

But for his part, a bit of simple internet snooping would have found her social media accounts. For those of you not aware, there are sites out there that search for other people's information. Google is always free. Spokeo is a paid site ($15 for 3 months, or about $50/ year), but also reveals a lot about someone if you have: an email address, or their phone number, etc.

For the snooper: I think Huts mentioned it before, and it bears repeating. Many pinay have multiple FB accounts.

Am helping a good friend at present. He is paying school / uni fees and accommodation plus an allowance. But last year I saw a FB profile with a Pinky. Immediately te profile (his and hers) disappeared but not before I got all the screen shoots I needed for him, said he hacked it etc. All FB pages had gone but.

Now I find more another profile and she has had a baby with same guy and the baby has a FB page (with the proud parents on the page.

How stupid can you get?

My mate is with one of her friends at the moment shagging her and he also helps this friend so he will now get the truth as the other friend (who I also shag at times as she very good in the sack) was pictured at the wedding and said was her baby LOL when clearly was not. The threat of no help forever will get the truth.

So pays to be diligent gents as this girl been pushing for more allowance and allowance on time last 3 months (ie after the baby was born).

Now he will call the school and speak to the Registrar (another trick you can do) and they generally confirm if the cutie is enrolled etc.

So plenty of thing you can do easily and cheaply.

[Pantot]

Although, the cam option will help to weed out the pros' as most pros are now using their expensive note books and smart phones to go on cam. A non pro usually uses a piece of shit (pos) phone with no cam, same with the semi pros "working" their way through college. Where as a pro is a sure thing she will most likely cost 50% more and be less GFE.

Maybe I have a different definition of pro than you cite. For me the real professional girls are the cheapest of all. For me a pro is one working / worked in a bar and her pussy as a commodity has been reduced to the lowest value of all pinay. After all she's used to fucking complete strangers with no other investment in them all night for only 1000 to 2000 pesos. All my pinay 'GF' who are ex pro bar workers who I once barfined don't really ask for money and if they do its not much and usually take 'no' pretty well. They are just happy with a guy who treats them with respect and actually maintains contact with them.

In my experience the total non pros are the most expensive of all to try to maintain. They think thier virgin or almost virgin heheh pussy is worth its volume in gold. The real pro has other sources of income and visitors etc, so your contribution is just a drop in the bucket. With the real non pro if you are the possibly the only (or maybe maybe 1 of a few) non pinoy source of 'help' they can get expensive in between actual visits.

If by pro you mean scammers always scheming and begging for money I have no time for them. They just aren't worth it.

I have had my best sexperiences with semi pros and non pros, using pos phones.

Just my 20 pesos. LAT.

Me too. They are the best. Especially the ones who live far from Angeles or Manila. They are the least mentally corrupted and westernized. And Filipinas are very adaptive and can be trained quickly to do it how you like it. Whatever it may be.

[LuvAsianTang]

I don't think so Forest, as I doubt whether the girls would have that reciprocal capability. Also, watch out for the automatic recurring membership. Uncheck the box.

Although, the cam option will help to weed out the pros' as most pros are now using their expensive note books and smart phones to go on cam. A non pro usually uses a piece of shit (pos) phone with no cam, same with the semi pros "working" their way through college. Where as a pro is a sure thing she will most likely cost 50% more and be less GFE. I have had my best sexperiences with semi pros and non pros, using pos phones.

Just my 20 pesos. LAT.

[WestCoast1]

It can go the other way, too. I have met guys here, usually older, who have NO IDEA what their pinay playthings are up to online in the most publicly obvious manner. As in, the filipina has facebook and dateinasia profiles in her own real name name, facebook plastered with pics of her and other guys, and the clueless expat intending to wed her has been skyping her for a year and a half and now coming to visit her somehow thinking he is the one and only. Shit like this can be solved with a google search. Maybe they want to believe. It just boggles the mind.

The point being simply that Filipinas can also be extremely lax concerning cyber identity obfuscation, in fact quite often willingly giving out personal data that will easily reveal an online trail, or simply not having the common sense to separate their real social media accounts from their, um, romantic activities. It can work both ways. Seen many dumbasses, on both sides of the equation.

Yes, same. A few years ago on the Manila thread I wrote about meeting a girl whom I'd chatted with online for several years (Antipolo). She brought her mom, aunt, and younger sis to meet in Ortigas. She ended up staying about 5 nights. She had a Friendster account (remember Friendster? When I left, she had a public gallery of pics of our time together (many of the pics were from my point / shoot cam, which watermarks the pics with the date stamp). 3 weeks later, out of the blue, she asked for money for some family emergency around noon (phils time) on a Saturday. To which I said 'no'. The next day on her YM avatar was a picture of her in a wedding dress, sitting on a (much older) kano's lap (he in a tuxedo). The message on her YM: "I'm married!" About 6 hours after asking me for money while she was on cam (in her street clothes), she got gussied up and married. Yes, she completely forgot to tell me in chat that her foreigner fiance was getting his haircut at that moment. A day or so later on her Friendster another public picture gallery went up, with pics from the wedding (she never bothered to remove the gallery with my pics). Its bad enough behavior that she asked foreigner #1 for money, then married foreigner #2 a few hours later.

But for his part, a bit of simple internet snooping would have found her social media accounts. For those of you not aware, there are sites out there that search for other people's information. Google is always free. Spokeo is a paid site ($15 for 3 months, or about $50/ year), but also reveals a lot about someone if you have: an email address, or their phone number, etc.

For the snooper: I think Huts mentioned it before, and it bears repeating. Many pinay have multiple FB accounts. One is for her family / close friends to see. The other is for visiting cano to see. If you want to see if she has an extra FB account, try typing her first and last name into the FB search box backwards. Instead of typing Analyn Toredo, type: nylana oderot, and see if anything pops up. You might be surprised at what shows up on her nylana oderot FB account (recent pics of her, hanging all over her local pinoy BF). Thanks Huts, its been invaluable. For two years or so I've posted several girls in the PG from the central Luzon province. They bus to Manila for me, or on occasion I bus there. There are more than two girls (all friends who went thru school together), and they rotate to keep fresh bodies in my bed. One is a stunner, and I've asked her in person and online why she doesn't have a local BF (always denies it). Recently I used Huts trick to find her other FB account. In some pics she's sitting in a young pinoy's lap, looking lovey / dovey. While chatting her friend recently, the friend herself gave it up: "No. That not her BF! That is her gay brother! The guy standing behind the brother is her BF. Her heart beat to him". Great!

Most guys on ISG are most likely not the guys who get caught in these scams, but it is amazing how many other naive souls put everything out in cyberspace when they are seeking relationships and have no idea of the consequences. They feel that they have to be honest and use all of their real details in order to 'catch' another honest man / woman.

Every day there are stories in the press about men & women who have been conned into sending huge sums of money to chat friends etc as one simple example. These are the people who get scammed and blackmailed so easily. Why else do the Nigerian scammers still persist years after that scam was exposed?

I find it difficult to imagine how it could possibly happen but I know it does. My filipino friend in the NBI assures me it happens regularly.

An apology to the membership. My previous posts regarding blackmailing / scamming were not necessarily aimed at any of you. You are experienced gents, and many of us are not afraid of exposure. However, while that % might be high here on ISG, there are those who cannot risk such exposure. They lead double lives (I think there is a perception, if a layman was reading the posts here, that we are all single / divorced world-travelers looking for hookers; but many of our rank don't fall into that category). Outside of ISG, many folks lead the double-life also, and cannot risk exposure. Its the fear of being exposed that causes them to give in to blackmailers.

[Roll Aides]

Most guys on ISG are most likely not the guys who get caught in these scams, but it is amazing how many other naive souls put everything out in cyberspace when they are seeking relationships and have no idea of the consequences. They feel that they have to be honest and use all of their real details in order to 'catch' another honest man / woman.

Every day there are stories in the press about men & women who have been conned into sending huge sums of money to chat friends etc as one simple example. These are the people who get scammed and blackmailed so easily. Why else do the Nigerian scammers still persist years after that scam was exposed?

I find it difficult to imagine how it could possibly happen but I know it does. My filipino friend in the NBI assures me it happens regularly.

It can go the other way, too. I have met guys here, usually older, who have NO IDEA what their pinay playthings are up to online in the most publicly obvious manner. As in, the filipina has facebook and dateinasia profiles in her own real name name, facebook plastered with pics of her and other guys, and the clueless expat intending to wed her has been skyping her for a year and a half and now coming to visit her somehow thinking he is the one and only. Shit like this can be solved with a google search. Maybe they want to believe. It just boggles the mind.

The point being simply that Filipinas can also be extremely lax concerning cyber identity obfuscation, in fact quite often willingly giving out personal data that will easily reveal an online trail, or simply not having the common sense to separate their real social media accounts from their, um, romantic activities. It can work both ways. Seen many dumbasses, on both sides of the equation.

[Slippery]

I don't think so Forest, as I doubt whether the girls would have that reciprocal capability. Also, watch out for the automatic recurring membership. Uncheck the box.

[Member #4643]

I am going to sign up for one month. I have a lot of names and phone numbers from DIA, but I am told that many of the DIA girls do not answer their phones (that certainly was the case for me in Cebu last year, but then again, I arrived the day of the typhoon).

By the way, I have discovered that there are a lot of DIA girls who are willing to visit me "at my hotel", but the moment one mentions "naughty fun", they suggest we meet in a public place. I think that in communicating with the girls, it sometimes is worth giving them plausible deniability. In my three trips to the Phils, there never ever was a girl who came to my hotel room who didn't have sex with me. There is really no need to get the girl to state that she will sleep with you; getting her to your room is enough (IMO).

Here is the question: is it worth being a Platinum member? It only costs $10 more, but it looks like the only real advantage for me is that one can use FC for cam.

[Pantot]

If you've already sent the cam girl some WU money for a cam show, she has some of your personal details (ie, your name). If she records you wanking off with her after that, and you don't want that posted online (your married, or you're single and you don't want your family / kids / employer seeing that), you pay up.

OK fair enough. So she knows your name and country. What does she do with that info? Again, where does she post the incriminating image? Videos especially are almost impossible to disseminate to a potential audience which can be shocked! And ruin you.

Start here. Dragonladies dot Org is one of the larger anti-scamming websites / BBS on the 'net regarding pinay scammers. There is a whole thread on blackmail:

http://dragonladies.org/bbs/viewforum.php?f=108 and http://dragonladies.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=4521.

Those who post often do it on youtube, which quickly takes it down.

Dragonladies? To quote them "Welcome to Dragonladies dot Org! We focus on internet romance scams, from Asia. " Its trying to protect ultra naive men from predatory Asian ladies.

Where the cheapcharlieporiegner dot Org equivalent? And even if there was whose wife, boss, clients, kid, neighbor etc is going to be exposed to it?

Its like fellow discreet pot smokers-- if your client / boss actually miraculously stumbled on it, his sympathy and respect for you would increase as obviously he shares your proclivities.

We as experienced Phils mongers should be pointing out the folly of the scams efficacy in implementation of the retribution by the blackmailer in reality and the simple steps to avoid it to the noobs rather than fuel the paranoia. IMO.

The benefits of showing your face, dick etc in cam upon initially meeting an online pinay and getting her to do the same in return, along with a quick CP call, to assure she is who she says she is massively outweighs the remote possible pitfalls in saving wasted time and possibly even money. I like fit 18 to 25 yo pinays with no kids and my guess is in today's cyber world 50% of those claiming to be that are something quite different and I have zero time to waste with them. In fact I loathe those creatures and patience with them decreases each year so I refuse to grant legitimacy to power they do not possess.

I still enjoy finding the fresh blood online and am pretty addicted to it.

[WestCoast1]

I just ask for the cell number and call her when she is on webcam.

What cell phone number?

You see it, right? She will tell you she has no cell phone; she had to pawn it. There is an answer on their part for most everything you can think of. However, if you finally outwit the operators on the other end of the line, they just go offline, and look for other rubes. If you won't get naked with her, many others will. You can ask her to do any of many things: wave to you, write you a note on paper and hold it up, call you, answer a vid call, etc. If its a video loop, then she won't look up from the keyboard. If she's "live", then she will do those things for you, but only to a point.

There is a *vast* online pay-per-view naked cam system going on worldwide: both cam sites, and also private operators (especially SE Asia -- and also in western countries) that accept WU / Xoom. There are many people, viewers / purchasers (dare I say hundreds of thousands, or more?) who routinely get naked on cam with those girls (or guys, or couples). That's the point, she's looking to "make you happy", a happy ending: few people watch a cam show without the intent to masturbate while the girl is doing the same. The number of men who have made this their primary sexual activity is rather large, and a good chunk of them stupidly expose themselves to risk by turning their cam on. Even young men, gwapo and healthy, will sit in their mother's basement and do this (as opposed to actively dating). Many of the girls (not cam-site girls) are actively working DIA and other dating sites. This is her (or her handler's) sole purpose for her dating site account.

[KongKing]

The DateinAsia (DIA) dating website has been making a few changes lately. For instance, in the profile information the last line of the profile did say "Member Since (and the date of joining DIA)". In the last 24 hours this has been removed. I have mixed feelings about this. I am pleased my joining date, as a long in the tooth DIA member, has been removed. But I am very keen to see how long the Filipina has been a member. The newer the better! So I emailed DIA today and asked: is this a planned change or a website glitch? And DIA promptly replied "It's a planned move, but we are not certain whether if it will stay this way or not. The problem is that this feature is both one of the most hated AND one of the most loved. ".

Another change, for the better, has been DIA's consolidation of city / town names where there are alternatives. For instance, using the Search function, you needed to do separate searches for Cagayan de Oro, Cagayan de Oro City, CDO, CDOC, City of Golden Friendship, etc. Now one Search consolidates these aliases.

KongKing.

P.S. : In the process of posting this I see DIA has just brought back the "Member Since" option. Perhaps feedback, like mine to DIA, has brought about a change of heart.

HaPPy NeW YeaR!

[Red Kilt]

Give me a for instance anybody.

Most guys on ISG are most likely not the guys who get caught in these scams, but it is amazing how many other naive souls put everything out in cyberspace when they are seeking relationships and have no idea of the consequences. They feel that they have to be honest and use all of their real details in order to 'catch' another honest man / woman.

Every day there are stories in the press about men & women who have been conned into sending huge sums of money to chat friends etc as one simple example. These are the people who get scammed and blackmailed so easily. Why else do the Nigerian scammers still persist years after that scam was exposed?

I find it difficult to imagine how it could possibly happen but I know it does. My filipino friend in the NBI assures me it happens regularly.

[WestCoast1]

I am assuming of course one would not give their real name and identifying personal online details to someone they barely know in a quick mutual wank session.

If you've already sent the cam girl some WU money for a cam show, she has some of your personal details (ie, your name). If she records you wanking off with her after that, and you don't want that posted online (your married, or you're single and you don't want your family / kids / employer seeing that), you pay up.

Give me a for instance anybody.

Thanks

Start here. Dragonladies dot Org is one of the larger anti-scamming websites / BBS on the 'net regarding pinay scammers. There is a whole thread on blackmail:

http://dragonladies.org/bbs/viewforum.php?f=108 and http://dragonladies.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=4521.

Those who post often do it on youtube, which quickly takes it down.

[Hutsori]

Assume the 'girl' doesn't know your real name, actual address, employer, your real Facebook with your full name pics and links to everybody in your church... they could never deduce it on their own based on your face and dick alone, and therefore have no idea how to reach the target audience to shame you.

Echoes my feeling and utter lack of concern about this. Seems to me those who get stung were too forthcoming with their personal deets or a hold a way overblown sense of themselves.

I was once punked by someone but not for cash. I've exchanged nude photos with girls. One morning at about 4 am I received a phone call from a Filipino bloke who wanted to visit my place for the hot man-to-man action I was seeking. "P*ss off," and I hung up. A few minutes later another call from a different bloke. Several SMS messages arrive. Well, something's up. Turned off my phone and went to back to sleep. In the morning I found many more SMS messages and my toss-away email inbox was filled with messages from Filipino guys. Lucky me. I sorted it all out. Someone, I assume a girl I met before, posted my photos and contact info including my address on Craig's List and a few gay hook up sites. I flagged "my" m2m personal on CL, and that was soon deleted, and couldn't do anything about "my" personals on the gay sites. Then I bought a new SIM. I probably could have waited it out and kept my number, but the calls and texts were getting annoying. The outcome: no person in my life has ever said to me, "Hey, I saw your photos on themanhole.com. "