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  1. #23294

    Car Rental Info from the airport vs Sosua

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Have been in Sosua 8 hours now and have had two very good sport fucking experiences pulling off the Strip and side streets. The festivities actually began on last. Friday when I crossed the border into Tijuana, Mexico and spent the weekend with my Mexican squeeze who I banged 6 times. I then crossed back into the US and flew to JFK Sunday evening and took the flight this morning into Puerto Plata. The flight arrived early and when I arrived I picked up my rental car and checked into CC, cashed some money, hit the market, and set my room up. Walked around town thinking I might grab something before dinner but decided against as I was a walking zombie having gotten no sleep all night after flying 9 hours to get here. After dinner I felt better and decided I'd grab a Chica and call it a night. Left the hotel and walked by New Garden and passed a girl with big knockers and a bigger ass, somewhat plain faced, not ugly, and not fat. I inspected the merchandise and found all the curves appealing to me. This is because my Mexican squeeze is a petite little spinner and this was very different then my weekend in Tijuana. So the chit chat started and she remarked how she liked the color of my hair and beard. That was a new one and I told her that lots of girls say nice things on the street but can be a dead fish in the room and hurry things. She swore to me she was not that way, liked too be caressed, etc. She sounded sincere so I asked how much for a "rato" and she said 1,500 Pesos. I told her I would giver her 1,200 Pesos and a tip for good service so off we went. In the room she was quite sexy shaking her booty around and lit up like a Christmas tree after I gave her a massage. Her blow job wasn't the greatest but she had nice moves and got off a couple of times as she actually squirted a little bit. It took a while for me to finish having not slept much but said to take all the time I wanted. Very loving, into touching, being held, etc. She walked out with 1,500 pesos. After this I decided to walk around the Strip and hung around Central Bar, went past Rumbas checking things out. I noticed a thin taller darker Chica that is my favorite body type. Slender with a little bubble gum butt and be cups. .
    Will be in Sosua this weekend. I normally rent a SUV from in Sosua for around $30/ day. Checked online I saw that renting a car from the airport (compact car) can be had for about $20/ day. How much did you pay I understand that the $20 is the base price not including insurance. I do not have a credit card which includes car insurance so I guess I would have to pay more. Or can I just rent the car for the $20 with some type of hold on it on the credit card.

  2. #23293
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Have been in Sosua 8 hours now and have had two very good sport fucking experiences pulling off the Strip and side streets. The festivities actually began on last. Friday when I crossed the border into Tijuana, Mexico and spent the weekend with my Mexican squeeze who I banged 6 times. I then crossed back into the US and flew to JFK Sunday evening and took the flight this morning into Puerto Plata. The flight arrived early and when I arrived I picked up my rental car and checked into CC, cashed some money, hit the market, and set my room up. Walked around town thinking I might grab something before dinner but decided against as I was a walking zombie having gotten no sleep all night after flying 9 hours to get here. After dinner I felt better and decided I'd grab a Chica and call it a night. Left the hotel and walked by New Garden and passed a girl with big knockers and a bigger ass, somewhat plain faced, not ugly, and not fat. I inspected the merchandise and found all the curves appealing to me. This is because my Mexican squeeze is a petite little spinner and this was very different then my weekend in Tijuana. So the chit chat started and she remarked how she liked the color of my hair and beard. That was a new one and I told her that lots of girls say nice things on the street but can be a dead fish in the room and hurry things. She swore to me she was not that way, liked too be caressed, etc. She sounded sincere so I asked how much for a "rato" and she said 1,500 Pesos. I told her I would giver her 1,200 Pesos and a tip for good service so off we went. In the room she was quite sexy shaking her booty around and lit up like a Christmas tree after I gave her a massage. Her blow job wasn't the greatest but she had nice moves and got off a couple of times as she actually squirted a little bit. It took a while for me to finish having not slept much but said to take all the time I wanted. Very loving, into touching, being held, etc. She walked out with 1,500 pesos. After this I decided to walk around the Strip and hung around Central Bar, went past Rumbas checking things out. I noticed a thin taller darker Chica that is my favorite body type. Slender with a little bubble gum butt and be cups. She walked by and I asked her what's up and she said she was going to have a beer and kept walking. That was kind of strange, what are these girls doing there unless there looking for customers. I waited a minute and then decided to find her. She was in the bar opposite Rumbas and I had her come outside so I could talk with her. She had a cute face and I was turned on looking at her body. Turns out she was half Haitian and half Dominican. Only an hour and a half had passed after being with the last one and was concerned that I might not be able to finish with her, I was also concerned she would have "saggy tit syndrome" prevalent on a lot of these Haitian Chicas. So the negotiations began and she asked for 2,000 Pesos. No way Jose, I told her I was going to take a walk and she said how much so I told her 1,250 Pesos and a possible tip. She said lets go. We got in the room and she hopped in the shower. I decided to hop in with her and what do you know, no saggy tits, however she had told me she had one three year old and had a see Section. Bingo, I knew at that point I was going to finish with this one. I gave her a limited massage and then she started stroking me and then asked for a condom. I then said what about a blow job. She said okay and was reluctant to do it without but did, and then reversed herself and wanted me to go down on her as well. At this point I did and then she really go into it. I finally donned the condom and oh my was she ever tight and into squealing, etc. She did a number on me and walked out with 1, 500 pesos as well. Will probably do her again tomorrow and then wife up with my Haitian later in the week who's an animal as well. The surfs up and I will be hitting Playa Encuentro in the morning.
    Good report!

    Almost like being there.

  3. #23292
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    Dominican mindset is to take as much as they can get now without thinking about tomorrow.
    That is the mindset with many working girls all over the world, not just the DR.

  4. #23291

    WE ae discussing The DR not Brazil

    What you pay and everything else is different in Brazil. Go to a DR Casa and tell me you got GFE. I just checked flights to Rio 1200 including the visa. That is what I pay for a week in Sosua.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    Not true, I have been to Casas in Brazil and the Girls give you GFE. The difference is with Brazil girls that get into the puta game, they take pride in it, and they love what they do. They will do everything to impress you, hoping that you will repeat another session.

    Dominican mindset is to take as much as they can get now without thinking about tomorrow.

  5. #23290
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    She did a number on me and walked out with 1, 500 pesos as well. Will probably do her again tomorrow and then wife up with my Haitian later in the week who's an animal as well. The surfs up and I will be hitting Playa Encuentro in the morning.
    Nice "Boots on the ground" report!

    Thanks!

  6. #23289
    Quote Originally Posted by MexBrown50  [View Original Post]
    Once they come to your room they show true colors by taking their mask off.

    This is my bottom line: chicas opinion of me for being cheap, is equivalent to toilet paper to me. I wipe and throw in the toilet, her opinion.
    A wise person said, "Smile and the world will smile back at you". Your opinion of chicas and their reaction to you, are completely in line with that.

  7. #23288

    Ground Report From Sosua- Why I like this Place!

    Have been in Sosua 8 hours now and have had two very good sport fucking experiences pulling off the Strip and side streets. The festivities actually began on last. Friday when I crossed the border into Tijuana, Mexico and spent the weekend with my Mexican squeeze who I banged 6 times. I then crossed back into the US and flew to JFK Sunday evening and took the flight this morning into Puerto Plata. The flight arrived early and when I arrived I picked up my rental car and checked into CC, cashed some money, hit the market, and set my room up. Walked around town thinking I might grab something before dinner but decided against as I was a walking zombie having gotten no sleep all night after flying 9 hours to get here. After dinner I felt better and decided I'd grab a Chica and call it a night. Left the hotel and walked by New Garden and passed a girl with big knockers and a bigger ass, somewhat plain faced, not ugly, and not fat. I inspected the merchandise and found all the curves appealing to me. This is because my Mexican squeeze is a petite little spinner and this was very different then my weekend in Tijuana. So the chit chat started and she remarked how she liked the color of my hair and beard. That was a new one and I told her that lots of girls say nice things on the street but can be a dead fish in the room and hurry things. She swore to me she was not that way, liked too be caressed, etc. She sounded sincere so I asked how much for a "rato" and she said 1,500 Pesos. I told her I would giver her 1,200 Pesos and a tip for good service so off we went. In the room she was quite sexy shaking her booty around and lit up like a Christmas tree after I gave her a massage. Her blow job wasn't the greatest but she had nice moves and got off a couple of times as she actually squirted a little bit. It took a while for me to finish having not slept much but said to take all the time I wanted. Very loving, into touching, being held, etc. She walked out with 1,500 pesos. After this I decided to walk around the Strip and hung around Central Bar, went past Rumbas checking things out. I noticed a thin taller darker Chica that is my favorite body type. Slender with a little bubble gum butt and be cups. She walked by and I asked her what's up and she said she was going to have a beer and kept walking. That was kind of strange, what are these girls doing there unless there looking for customers. I waited a minute and then decided to find her. She was in the bar opposite Rumbas and I had her come outside so I could talk with her. She had a cute face and I was turned on looking at her body. Turns out she was half Haitian and half Dominican. Only an hour and a half had passed after being with the last one and was concerned that I might not be able to finish with her, I was also concerned she would have "saggy tit syndrome" prevalent on a lot of these Haitian Chicas. So the negotiations began and she asked for 2,000 Pesos. No way Jose, I told her I was going to take a walk and she said how much so I told her 1,250 Pesos and a possible tip. She said lets go. We got in the room and she hopped in the shower. I decided to hop in with her and what do you know, no saggy tits, however she had told me she had one three year old and had a see Section. Bingo, I knew at that point I was going to finish with this one. I gave her a limited massage and then she started stroking me and then asked for a condom. I then said what about a blow job. She said okay and was reluctant to do it without but did, and then reversed herself and wanted me to go down on her as well. At this point I did and then she really go into it. I finally donned the condom and oh my was she ever tight and into squealing, etc. She did a number on me and walked out with 1, 500 pesos as well. Will probably do her again tomorrow and then wife up with my Haitian later in the week who's an animal as well. The surfs up and I will be hitting Playa Encuentro in the morning.

  8. #23287

    Thank God Mother Teresa is in Sosua

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrx2005  [View Original Post]
    Anyway, I have set out to work on many of my shortcomings. Thats a mission in life. We all do it. Very often I take the time out to also help those in denial of theirs. Especially when it comes to dealing with PFP women.
    You have lots of hats here in Sosua, DR. Phil and now Mother Teresa for mongers. Arrogant beyond belief, and what's sad is you don't even realize it.

  9. #23286
    Quote Originally Posted by MexBrown50  [View Original Post]
    Yes Black43, Right now I am in Sosua on ground. Some chicas are on the street / every fucking thing you want and every way you want. Once they come to your room they show true colors by taking their mask off. I had only one encounter so far. But I paid and kicked her out the door. The thing with me is I always stick to 1000 pesos per ST and no propina and no motoconcho ride money. No way from me. They call me cheap and bull shit to play with my head (bighead) and give me looks. Anyways, I am not looking for a great relationship, two hour. Not me. If the chica so good I had a sex machine once, and she has been servicing me so far. And I buy her food, some drinks cheap and sometimes good propina. But that's me.

    This is my bottom line: chicas opinion of me for being cheap, is equivalent to toilet paper to me. I wipe and throw in the toilet, her opinion.

    I am not a heartless man. I am discriminating fucker.

    Thanks for the report.

    I will be leaving end of this week. This is my first trip. I only had a week.

    Take care you all.
    LOL you are cheap though. A lot of guys complaining about shitty service but want to give the girls bottom dollar. What motivation do they have besides the measly 20 dollars your giving them for the deed. I'm not saying you should overpay but stick to the standard and you might have better sessions. From my experience st 1500-2000 tln 2000-3000 ymmv. I fall into the category of the sports fucker. I could care less about GFE it actually creeps me out. I like the girls to be friendly but don't want them kissing me or holding my hand other BS. After I nut I want them to leave unless I'm preparing to go for another round. I go for quality and am willing to pay more to get it but to each his own.

  10. #23285
    Quote Originally Posted by Black43  [View Original Post]
    I just got back from Sosua yesterday. Right now, Rumba is ground zero for night action in sosua and I didn't find any other spot that comes close. Day action can be found in other ways, but more on that later to stay on topic. I've only seen Classico packed with good chicas only one night out of my stay. During the weekdays, just a few tourists dancing with their friends amongst themselves which looks kinda sad. Plus it's the Rumba chichas moving to Classico anyway, so the same chicas.

    It's best to see Rumba as a Blackjack table that pays out in good / bad chicas or good / bad pussy. As you can hit, stay, split, double up, and use strategies to up your odds in blackjack, you have some controls to up your odds to get good chicas as well. Interviewing, observing, moving around, dance, buy / deny drinks and see how chicas react, have a pleasant conversation if you speak Spanish, negotiate really hard on price and so on.

    Also, another hidden factor is that all the chichas are watching all the guys / potential customers in Rumbas. Far more chicas in Rumba than there are men, most of the chicas are just sitting in their chairs watching you. They know what you drink, how much can you drink, how much you already drank, do you have a ego, are you fun, are you annoying, can you dance, how much money you spend, which chica you took out already, how long you took her out and everything you did the previous nights. Some of the chicas already knew my hotel room before I even got to Rumba. Rumor mill does work overtime in Sosua whether it is accurate or not.

    Ultimately, it is random chance. You can have 20 bad chicas in a row as you can have 20 good chicas in a row. Even one bad chica is demoralizing. Like the house always wins in blackjack, bad chicas happen. Time, energy, and money wasted. And if she is hitting you up for more money or having shitty attitude in 3 am, it really sucks. The fact that you have to pony up the money just to find out if you have a bad chica again is something to make any man pause. Just like blackjack you have to pay to play again.

    On a brighter note, not only did I have bad WTF moments from Rumba chicas, I found my best "wow, you really exist" chicas in Rumba. Unlike blackjack you get to keep the good chicas in your rotation. And I can tell you for certain, that is a beautiful thing.
    The action varies a lot from week to week, season to season, day to day, so it's hard to generalize, but I think you have generally nailed what Sosua is all about these days.

    You are right on with the quick pick ups, it's a coin toss, but with a little set up time, by the time you get to your 20 chicas, you should be able to get those odds in your favor.

    Then, like me, you'll not only be sayin', "Wow, she really exists", but at the airport on your way out, It'll be. Wow, Sosua really exists!

    Post more on your day time stuff.

  11. #23284
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    If you go to a casa are you expecting GFE. NOOO! Same is true for Sosua. In Sosua you will see a couple 100 putas in one place. Every one of then will let you have sex for a small price. I like to have a basic relationship with the girls I deal with. I like seeing them again and we both want to hook back up. The girls are very sharp and see way more then we do. Most are willing give more if they feel you are willing to do more. Your choice quality or quantity. You can have either but it hard to have both. . .
    Not true, I have been to Casas in Brazil and the Girls give you GFE. The difference is with Brazil girls that get into the puta game, they take pride in it, and they love what they do. They will do everything to impress you, hoping that you will repeat another session.

    Dominican mindset is to take as much as they can get now without thinking about tomorrow.

  12. #23283
    Quote Originally Posted by Wrx2005  [View Original Post]
    Sosua is good for what it can provide. Now it may be more of a challenge to find chicas that give what you pay for. But they are out there, even in Sosua. There are several factors that become important. One is the amount of time one has to monger when they come. A dude with only a few days to 2 weeks, may be pressed to try to make the most of his time in Sosua. That can lead to making hasty decisions in selecting chicas. Another drawback, is not getting quality intel from ones own observations of chicas or the observations or experiences of other mongers.

    I have spent a lot of time in the DR in the last 4 yrs. I have stayed sometimes 7 weeks, 5 months, and averaged 3 weeks per visit. In that time, I have got used to seeing many of the chicas when they got started and those that have been in it awhile. I have very little interest in getting with any of those chicas. They are like fixtures in Sosua. So if I do partake, I'm looking for new faces that come to Sosua to work. And this is where I can enjoy what Sosua has to offer and eliminate much of the frustration that guys are experiencing.

    Aside from that, many guys that are fixtures here as well, seek outside of Sosua for talent. Something many guys with only a few days on vacation will NOT be doing. So in essence guys only know Sosua, and so they pick from what is there. I have heard some guys say that someof the chicas they met in Sosua, if you interact with them in a non PFP environment, the chicas don't act the same way. So in essence there is something to be said about how the vibe and construct in Sosua molds and shapes the behavior of everybody (mongers and chicas).

    Many guys drawbacks to venturing away from Sosua is due to poor command of spanish. Not really interested in getting into the culture. Not really having time to cultivate a connection because they have wives and girlfriends back home. All in all, I would suggest a guy hold onto those chicas that do a good job. And consider having them as regulars, and have enough of them so you can rotate them for varieties sake. Enjoy them for as long as that will last. They may not be available the next time you come. Or they may change on you. Be willing to go to other areas of the DR to meet chicas. If it works for you, use latin dating websites. If you seek out ladies that actually work or are seriously going to school, you may make a great connection. But if you pick girls that are unemployed, or pretending to be students and have nothing going for themselves, be prepared to waste your time and/or money. Don't blame it on the website, blame it on the type of chicas you settle on meeting.

    Overall, a monger that stays here for an extended period can often do better finding quality performance consistently, than a guy with little time and unlucky. Sometimes thats all it is. Being lucky choosing a chica and being pleasantly surprised.
    Good advice!

    If I had taken the time to research and collect the most popular posts in this forum including some of my own, and repeated them above. I couldn't have said it better.

  13. #23282
    Quote Originally Posted by Black43  [View Original Post]
    I just got back from Sosua yesterday. Right now, Rumba is ground zero for night action in sosua and I didn't find any other spot that comes close. Day action can be found in other ways, but more on that later to stay on topic. I've only seen Classico packed with good chicas only one night out of my stay. During the weekdays, just a few tourists dancing with their friends amongst themselves which looks kinda sad. Plus it's the Rumba chichas moving to Classico anyway, so the same chicas.

    It's best to see Rumba as a Blackjack table that pays out in good / bad chicas or good / bad pussy. As you can hit, stay, split, double up, and use strategies to up your odds in blackjack, you have some controls to up your odds to get good chicas as well. Interviewing, observing, moving around, dance, buy / deny drinks and see how chicas react, have a pleasant conversation if you speak Spanish, negotiate really hard on price and so on.

    Also, another hidden factor is that all the chichas are watching all the guys / potential customers in Rumbas. Far more chicas in Rumba than there are men, most of the chicas are just sitting in their chairs watching you. They know what you drink, how much can you drink, how much you already drank, do you have a ego, are you fun, are you annoying, can you dance, how much money you spend, which chica you took out already, how long you took her out and everything you did the previous nights. Some of the chicas already knew my hotel room before I even got to Rumba. Rumor mill does work overtime in Sosua whether it is accurate or not..
    Yes Black43, Right now I am in Sosua on ground. Some chicas are on the street / every fucking thing you want and every way you want. Once they come to your room they show true colors by taking their mask off. I had only one encounter so far. But I paid and kicked her out the door. The thing with me is I always stick to 1000 pesos per ST and no propina and no motoconcho ride money. No way from me. They call me cheap and bull shit to play with my head (bighead) and give me looks. Anyways, I am not looking for a great relationship, two hour. Not me. If the chica so good I had a sex machine once, and she has been servicing me so far. And I buy her food, some drinks cheap and sometimes good propina. But that's me.

    This is my bottom line: chicas opinion of me for being cheap, is equivalent to toilet paper to me. I wipe and throw in the toilet, her opinion.

    I am not a heartless man. I am discriminating fucker.

    Thanks for the report.

    I will be leaving end of this week. This is my first trip. I only had a week.

    Take care you all.

  14. #23281

    On the Money

    Sosua is like fast food places. You can satisfy your hunger but do not think your are getting 5 star restaurant service. WRX is right the regulars have one thing in mind. They need to get paid so they can eat. They see 100's of guys every week. If you can find a fresh chica you have a chance for a better response. The hard core girls a more aggressive. They have a game they play to get you excited but become non performers once in the room with you. Rumba attracts scores of these girls.

    If you are a short timer on the scene then you are more at risk of pulling a stinker. You can find some excellent talent but it takes patients and practice. If you want GFE you have to earn it. You need to repeat with the girl and maybe have a meal with her. The week end warriors set the tone that the girls live by. Once they become hard they are difficult to crack. In truth hardcore girls work for most sport fuckers to Sosua. If you go to a casa are you expecting GFE. NOOO! Same is true for Sosua. In Sosua you will see a couple 100 putas in one place. Every one of then will let you have sex for a small price. I like to have a basic relationship with the girls I deal with. I like seeing them again and we both want to hook back up. The girls are very sharp and see way more then we do. Most are willing give more if they feel you are willing to do more. Your choice quality or quantity. You can have either but it hard to have both. . .

  15. #23280
    Quote Originally Posted by ZipHead  [View Original Post]
    Been here for a few days and have to say either my mongering skills are going downhill or the Sosua chica union is getting to be too formidable for me to deal with anymore. I've never been one to advocate the "wifeing up" procedure but I'm getting to think that might be the answer to the consistently crappy rushed service I'm getting from these ladies. Perhaps finding one you are compatible with and sticking with her is the way to go. I've had several days to sample (pics to follow in a few days when I'm out of the country) several chicas and invariably they are promising more than they deliver, don't want to kiss, very little in any GFE, sometimes reluctant to let me DATY and in general a rushed and very businesslike pain in the ass. When I can drag the process out a little as soon as I nut they are practically BOUNCING out of the rack to jump in the shower and get their clothes back on and then hassle me about more money, propinas and motoconche money. I've honestly just about had it, and believe me, this ain't my first rodeo either here or in other well known mongering destinations. The only really good experience I've had so far is with a very plain looking chubby chica who I would NEVER give a second glance to; met her at a beach bar I hang out at and she was a friend of the owner and seemed sweet despite being "poco gordo"(a little fat). Ended up being totally GFE and a lot of fun in the rack and nice company for dinner. Proves that fat chicks need lovin too!!

    I understand that these ladies are not professional courtesans and yes, they are human beings, too. I always try to treat them well and with respect but I've been comparing notes with other mongers here and seem to get a lot of the same story. Just seems I used to get better service for the most part in past years. Who knows, maybe it's me. I enjoy this place and will probably return but it sure isn't Thailand, let me tell you.

    Staying at Mary Rose apartments this time and I CANNOT say enough good things about the property or Rick, the manager and owner. Really nice place.
    Sosua is good for what it can provide. Now it may be more of a challenge to find chicas that give what you pay for. But they are out there, even in Sosua. There are several factors that become important. One is the amount of time one has to monger when they come. A dude with only a few days to 2 weeks, may be pressed to try to make the most of his time in Sosua. That can lead to making hasty decisions in selecting chicas. Another drawback, is not getting quality intel from ones own observations of chicas or the observations or experiences of other mongers.

    I have spent a lot of time in the DR in the last 4 yrs. I have stayed sometimes 7 weeks, 5 months, and averaged 3 weeks per visit. In that time, I have got used to seeing many of the chicas when they got started and those that have been in it awhile. I have very little interest in getting with any of those chicas. They are like fixtures in Sosua. So if I do partake, I'm looking for new faces that come to Sosua to work. And this is where I can enjoy what Sosua has to offer and eliminate much of the frustration that guys are experiencing.

    Aside from that, many guys that are fixtures here as well, seek outside of Sosua for talent. Something many guys with only a few days on vacation will NOT be doing. So in essence guys only know Sosua, and so they pick from what is there. I have heard some guys say that someof the chicas they met in Sosua, if you interact with them in a non PFP environment, the chicas don't act the same way. So in essence there is something to be said about how the vibe and construct in Sosua molds and shapes the behavior of everybody (mongers and chicas).

    Many guys drawbacks to venturing away from Sosua is due to poor command of spanish. Not really interested in getting into the culture. Not really having time to cultivate a connection because they have wives and girlfriends back home. All in all, I would suggest a guy hold onto those chicas that do a good job. And consider having them as regulars, and have enough of them so you can rotate them for varieties sake. Enjoy them for as long as that will last. They may not be available the next time you come. Or they may change on you. Be willing to go to other areas of the DR to meet chicas. If it works for you, use latin dating websites. If you seek out ladies that actually work or are seriously going to school, you may make a great connection. But if you pick girls that are unemployed, or pretending to be students and have nothing going for themselves, be prepared to waste your time and/or money. Don't blame it on the website, blame it on the type of chicas you settle on meeting.

    Overall, a monger that stays here for an extended period can often do better finding quality performance consistently, than a guy with little time and unlucky. Sometimes thats all it is. Being lucky choosing a chica and being pleasantly surprised.

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