Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

Doesn't mean she doesn't hook on the side. In fact, how many women do I NOT know that have regular jobs but make themselves available to you after work for a chance to supplement their incomes?

You lose cool points for that "I know first hand" comment. You only know what she tells you or allows you to know.

By that logic it doesn't mean that none of us don't turn tricks on the side either. There is no way to prove a negative. But maybe I assume they are not hookers because in the umpteen years that I have known them they have never asked me for anything and I have never given them anything. They are not running around in luxury and sporting the latest gadgets. They live modestly and even below modestly. But hell anything is possible. I just don't go around assuming by default that someone is selling ass; especially if I have known that someone for quite a few years. And besides, as tight as those monkeys are when I get back to them, if they were selling it to somebody then that somebody definitely had not been hitting hit right.

[SavePros321]

So I know first hand that they are not all hookers and many do have legitimate jobs.

Doesn't mean she doesn't hook on the side. I gave the example of the MILF hairstylist. She has a "legitimate job" (hell, she is a business owner), but still is available for P4P.

In fact, how many women do I NOT know that have regular jobs but make themselves available to you after work for a chance to supplement their incomes?

You lose cool points for that "I know first hand" comment. You only know what she tells you or allows you to know.

I've been watching a chica I've blown my load in on multiple occasions parade pics of her new boyfriend across her Facebook timeline over the past few days (no fake tits on this one; natural round melons). I'm sure her new novio thinks he knows first hand that she's never sold ass for cash either.

Oh, and this particular one I speak of happens to be an enfermera.

[Mr Enternational]

Say what you want about C Jack Sparrow, but this guy gets it!

There is a very, very fine chica from Medellin that I wanted to bang on my next trip, but she is currently living in Peru working as a "waitress" (cough), and won't be back until summer.

That could very well be the case if she was in a first world country. In a restaurant in Australia I did meet a girl from Colombia who was a real live waitress and was not there as a hooker as you guys are portraying every Colombiana who travels for work to be. One of my main Colombians is from Medellin and has worked in a factory in Panama for years. My ex girlfriend is Colombian but has lived outside of Colombia for at least the 10 years that I have been knowing her. When we met she was living in the hood in Caracas (I did stay there with them) with her son, who is now an engineering student at a university in Buenos Aires . Then she moved to Curacao. She now lives in Panama. She is a hairstylist. She does have implants that her boyfriend before I met her bought. So I know first hand that they are not all hookers and many do have legitimate jobs.

The Colombians who I have met in Peru who ARE hookers all have tit and ass implants. Does your girl fit this description? If not, then I am 90% sure that she is not working as a hooker in Peru. I would seriously doubt that she is there as a waitress though. Peru is not a big tipping culture and she would probably make out better as a waitress in Colombia. For the most part, the people that do the waitressing in Peru are teenagers.

[SavePros321]

Everybody knows but officially don't know where the money comes from; egoism is so strong that families know that the flower of the family does in Panama; but it's accepted since she actucally pays the bills. But, looking at it from another angle; they already plan for that when she is young, that she will be a family provider; as a prepago in another city, Bogota, or another country, Panama. So strong is the culture that holds back the female liberation. It's more terrible than we can imagine!

The family of course never mention it to the young girl, they know (and want it); when she moves alone to another, bigger city, where she can live "incognito", they know she waitress salary is so bad and that men will offer her good money as prepago! It`s not that just happens by accident!

Say what you want about C Jack Sparrow, but this guy gets it!

There is a very, very fine chica from Medellin that I wanted to bang on my next trip, but she is currently living in Peru working as a "waitress" (cough), and won't be back until summer.

[C Jack Sparrow]

Thanks for the various replies and perspectives.

Apparently there is a television series called "Sin tetas no hay paraiso" - about a girl who wants to get boob implants. So definitely an important (and interesting LOL) part of the Colombian culture.

According to this article http://www.theguardian.com/artanddes...ia-in-pictures one girl from Medellin claims she paid 4. 5 m pesos. It could be cheaper than that though.

I suppose, if you were to break down the society as the Colombians do, in 1-6 estratos you could probably say that 5,6 could definitely afford it.

Anything below is already sketchy, but I guess, if the culture is really to the point where there is no shame but rather pressure (e. G. , like social pressure to get a smartphone) like some here are suggesting and where the family would get involved, then I could see 3-4 also being reasonable possibilities.

Obviously if she is estrato 1-2, I think that, at that point, it is obvious what she is about.

I only ask and look into this to hear perspectives because I think it helps in terms of economizing time / effort invested in a girl and also deciding what kind of long-term potential she has.

Colombia has a very long and deep tradition of "prepagoism". It is as you say obvious where the money comes from.

The modern Colombia still have feudal patterns; extremely unjust in-equality. Erotics, sensualism, sex is something that is much more acccpeted, it's much more "natural" than in our 1st world societies. Hence, the stigma is not that strong. Everybody knows but officially don't know where the money comes from; egoism is so strong that families know what the flower of the family does in Panama; but it's accepted since she actucally pays the bills. But, looking at it from another angle; they already plan for that when she is young, that she will be a family provider; as a prepago in another city, Bogota, or another country, Panama. So strong is the culture that holds back the female liberation. It's more terrible than we can imagine!

The family of course never mention it to the young girl, they know (and want it); when she moves alone to another, bigger city, where she can live "incognito", they know that her waitress salary is so bad and that men will offer her good money as prepago! It`s not that just happens by accident!

That is the mentality of "los pobres". There does not exist thoughts of a marxist revolution; plain egoism combined with a vastly spread laziness is still King!

Marrying a "rich" man from The US or Europe is Bingo! And that means economic security for life for the whole Low-Estrato -family! Without any effort at all!

New breasts, ass, abdomen and facial feautures are the essential parts of the "product" the Lower-Estrato families "sell".

Of course it is important! Being the best looking girl in the barrio means a future. However, intellectual shortcomings are so inherent; treating that extranjero like a "Living Wallet", makes him wanna quit the whole thing! He feels he is the "Bingo". They often end up with a sudden separation and they are back to square 1. Just some basic recognition and backround research would prevent that. But the impulsivness are so strong and it never comes to that. And that patterns also is seen among university educated people in Laureles!

For us bad guys, we can then explore this culture; there are now an influx of 1000th of sweetshearts every year turning 18 in Medellin only! And with silicone breats and huge asses and flat abdomen!

I, and many like me, just love those girls! It`s such a turn on with those artifical body parts! it should not be, but it is! And all for $US50-75!

I once went to a girl from those web-escort sites; she had such big fake ass that I could not reach here her pussy or anal with my toungue! Her "nalgas" where so big that I couldn`t give her oral pleasure from behind! That is plastic surgery at it`s most!

Such girls on the streets is accepted here in Medellin; but what would people say if you took home such a girl to the States! LoL! She would be considered a freak!

[SavePros321]

Also, a girl can get a boob job by putting half the cost down at first and pay the rest over the next 2-3 months (during her follow-up appointments). So I'd say even an estrata 3 girl can get one, if she can save some money and get the rest from guy friends, girl friends, and even some family members might pitch in.

Any smart guy wouldn't just give a broad money to pay for her tits if there was nothing in it for him. So, again we've confirmed that a poor girl with no money for tits will sell ass to acquire them (or finish paying for them).

I suppose the underlining theme of the initial question was that the OP was trying to rationalize starting a long distance relationship with a chick whom he suspects may have history as a pro because she has fake boobs. Other posters want to convince the OP otherwise, and that "middle class chicas do it all the time (get boob jobs)".

Well, I regularly bang a MILF that would be regarded as "middle class". She owns her own hair salon. Doesn't stop her from hooking on the side by taking my pesos.

And she has fake boobs.

Stop believing you are going to find a "Unicorn" chica; they don't exist. Hooking is part of the culture and all women will not pass on the opportunity to sell ass for cash discreetly if the right opportunity presents itself, regardless of the "estrato".

Some poster a while back talked about knowing an agency that would hook you up with TV personalities that hooked on the side (back in the day). I'm sure these women would be considered to be in the upper echelon of society.

[Iguana Six]

Guys, just to add a little perspective, boob jobs are quite common in Colombia. In fact, to put things in perspective: the price of a boob job is relatively lower in Colombia than in first-world countries, while a small basic car in Colombia would cost almost twice as much than what it would sell for over here in the states. That goes to show you what the priorities are, LOL!

A small basic car is so expensive in Colombia because it must be imported. Colombia, like many countries in the region has a very inefficient personal income tax system, so it relies on Value Added Tax (VAT) sales tax systems and placing high tariffs on imported goods, especially luxury goods like autos, TVs, cell phones. This kind of taxation targets the rich, and hopefully encourages domestic manufacture of manufactured good. Eventually, the economy will rise to the level where someone will to open a automobile plant in the country, and the product will be competitively priced because of lower shipping and tax costs. Argentina got a Ford Falcon plant and Mexico got a VW bug plant in the 1960's.

Low cost plastic surgery in Colombia is low cost because a surgeon can make a good living, and while it is not what his counterpart in a big city in the US would make, he has lower costs, is not in fear of a law suit every month, and has volume / word of mouth advertising working for him.

As for the butt-jobs. I have seen bad ones where something was injected, which later turned into a discoloration. I've known one non-pro slim girl who had a butt that was just fine and firm and tight and would have benefitted from a boob job get a but got a butt job instead, which only accentuated her flat chest. Another was a full time pro who looked like a petit blonde Anne Hathaway, and then, when I saw here a year later, had gotten a boob job, butt job, dyed her hair black, and went from 95 lbs to 115 lbs. She had transformed form Nicole Ritchie to one of the Khardasian. It was as if someone put a battle ship's big 18 inch gun turrets on the front and back of a little cruiser. It is too much for her 4'11" frame.

[ColombiaLover]

Guys,

Headed back to MDE for 10 days later this month and have interest in a testosterone shot. Never tried it before, but have read experiences of other guys. Does anyone know of a pharmacy in Poblado that administers the shot?

Thanks in advance.

[Onibmab]

Thanks for the various replies and perspectives.

Apparently there is a television series called "Sin tetas no hay paraiso" - about a girl who wants to get boob implants. So definitely an important (and interesting LOL) part of the Colombian culture.

According to this article http://www.theguardian.com/artanddes...ia-in-pictures one girl from Medellin claims she paid 4. 5 m pesos. It could be cheaper than that though.

I suppose, if you were to break down the society as the Colombians do, in 1-6 estratos you could probably say that 5,6 could definitely afford it.

Anything below is already sketchy, but I guess, if the culture is really to the point where there is no shame but rather pressure (e. G. , like social pressure to get a smartphone) like some here are suggesting and where the family would get involved, then I could see 3-4 also being reasonable possibilities.

Obviously if she is estrato 1-2, I think that, at that point, it is obvious what she is about.

I only ask and look into this to hear perspectives because I think it helps in terms of economizing time / effort invested in a girl and also deciding what kind of long-term potential she has.

[C Jack Sparrow]

X-novia said that girls saves for 2-3 years, may include some occasional sex for money. She also said "amigos" or novios pay. She also said she can get some sort or butt-jobb for only 600 mil pesos, but that idea scares me. 600 mil, what can she get?

Other amiga got a bankloan. She said that all of her primas, amigas already have implants and all are from estrato social 1-3, where 6 is the most rich.

A girl at a nice location in Laureles had yet no breast implants; " I make 2 million a months, my amigas here with implants make 5 million".

It's a Catch 22. The girl needs the implants to finance them!

But I have met guys, both local and gringos, at New Life, asking if this or that girl was good, but also specifying that "if her tits are implants, I'll pass".

Personally I love breastimplants, while I think as an ass-man I prefer a hard aerobics ass. If a girl are born with fling-flung tits, she can't do anything about it except surgery. Asses though are about excercize-moral; You can always get a nice ass with effort!

The same for us with overwieght-problems; I CAN get rid if that "barriga de cerveza", but a small penis I can do little about!

[Phunluv]

Guys, just to add a little perspective, boob jobs are quite common in Colombia. In fact, to put things in perspective: the price of a boob job is relatively lower in Colombia than in first-world countries, while a small basic car in Colombia would cost almost twice as much than what it would sell for over here in the states. That goes to show you what the priorities are, LOL!

Also, a girl can get a boob job by putting half the cost down at first and pay the rest over the next 2-3 months (during her follow-up appointments). So I'd say even an estrata 3 girl can get one, if she can save some money and get the rest from guy friends, girl friends, and even some family members might pitch in.

You'd also be surprised at the number of girls from middle-class families getting boob jobs for their 18th birthdays. Not that different than what you see in certain circles here in the states, like a JAP getting a nose job at 16 or 17 years; or rich girls in certain neighborhoods in LA or Miami getting boob jobs sometimes as young as 16.

So it's not just a puta thing. It's almost a requirement nowadays in certain niches of the Colombian model / fashion world. Big boobs in high-fashion or euro-fashion are still almost forbidden of course, but we're talking the second-tier beauty contest circuit (Miss Cola, Miss Tanga, etc.), the Chicas Car Audio circuit, the models on the Linda Pop site, the girls that get paid to hang out in the "cool" club of the moment. Another good example would be some of the Aguila girls that have a small boob job (200 CC implants, not the monstrous 350 CC models, LOL!

[Ricardo Torres]

Usually the girls in the middle class families consult with mothers about aesthetic surgey, ie. Nose job and boob job, and the mother takes the daughter to the surgeon..

Did you use some statistical analysis Matty to come to this conclusion, or what are you basing it on, as nothing else would see relevant.

[Member #4394]

Usually the girls in the middle class families consult with mothers about aesthetic surgey, ie. Nose job and boob job, and the mother takes the daughter to the surgeon.

It doesn't mean with any certainty that a Colombiana was a puta or prepago if she has had a boob job. The middle class in Colombia is growing and more and more women have their own money to buy them. Plus Colombian men fix their women up like American fix up their cars.

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[Concarne]

I think you may have answered your own question there amigo, with he question being "how does a jobless woman from a poor area afford expensive body modifications like breast implants and butt injections?"

As far as how common it is, probably very common among full-time putas and chicas with sponsors (you know, the ones that seem to be on vacation 24/7, 365 and post photos of themselves in exotic locations, fancy hotels and resorts every other week).

Most of the semi-pro chicas I know can barely afford tuition, let alone breast implants.

I will add that some of the work they get is from least than reputable characters, non MDs and barely trained people in some cases. Some chicas in Mayo were telling me stories of friends that went to collagen injections parties and the nasty results. And some of them are scared away for sure. Works for me I hate silicon or implants of any kind even when very well done.

[Concarne]

Hey fellows!

Other than La Manzana. Anyone knows the location of other amanecederos or clubes nocturnos? I had some good pulls from la Manzana before. I blend and speak spanish so no worries.

Info appreciated!