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  1. #7726

    Spotting the performers

    Quote Originally Posted by EricCartman  [View Original Post]
    Back to the main lounge and it was *really* hard to try to find a next target. There are a lot of blondes walking around, in addition to the regular dark-haired romanians, but it's really hard to tell who is any good just by watching. Also some were so "fierce" in their bottle blonde look and fake boobs that I have to think they would be terrible in the room. A lot of the girls just have terrible non-friendly body language. There were a couple of blondes who I liked physically but I was afraid the session would be sharky and terrible.I still find it much more difficult to make a connection with the girls than with garotas in Brazil. But hey when in Germany.
    Any other suggestions on how to sort out the better performers from the weak ones, especially when you don't know their names, gratefully appreciated.
    Cartman
    This is an interesting question and one which I do wonder if the more frequent mongers have an answer to. But I rather doubt it and I read the german FKK forums quite a lot. Part of your problem was the venue. I actually like Artemis as a Club, and I love Berlin as a city but I'm afraid the service levels there, or rather the attitude of the girls before the room, can be very difficult. There is a good reason for this: a complete lack of competition from any other FKK club in Berlin. I have tried the FKK clubs in Hessen and NRW and I think the girls are far more friendly, want to tell you more about what is on offer instead of the immediate "take me to the room" attitude in Artemis. This is because in Dusseldorf / Cologne and Frankfurt there is a choice of clubs for men to frequent. So if they want your business they need to try a little harder for it. In Artemis they have a captive audience and they know it. This is tarring too many girls with one brush. Some are lovely. Like the lovely Gina you sessioned with. I've not roomed with her as she isn't my type to look at but I've spent time talking to her and she is a really nice girl. Others at Artemis are not so friendly. A plump blonde there in February was horribly rude to me when I rejected her for a 3 time (get the message please). I stupidly said "maybe later" to get her to leave me alone. What a foolish error. When I later said no again she started shouting. Very loudly "liar, liar liar". A lot of girls were looking at me wondering what I'd said or done and I wondered if I'd get another session from anyone. Happily some of them know her too well and it was ok. But a good example of the attitude.

    I had a 30 min session with another girl (romanian) on that occasion. I told her twice I wasn't interested in CIM or anal extras. When I asked her if she wanted to extend to an hour she told me this was ok only if I did the extras! End of session! I'm back in Artemis in a few weeks. Hoping the attitude improves, but I doubt it. It will only change when the long promised new FKK club ever opens and there is competition.

    However this still doesn't really answer your question about spotting the good performers. The only tip I could pass on. Which I got from one of these forums and has worked very well for me. Is to position yourself somewhere outside of the rooms / stairs so you can see the chemistry / reaction of guys coming out of the rooms. If they are coming out looking so-so, neither pleased nor disappointed, I tend to think the session was mechanical and the girl might not be great. If a guy comes out all smiles and they are having banter. I look more carefully at the girl to see if she too is in good spirits and that is a sign that maybe it was good for both and she is worth trying. All that said. There is a phrase on here YMMV. Your mileage may vary. It's true. One man's poison is another man's petal. Also, with the euro in the dire state it is, 50 or 60 (in artemis) for 30 minutes or double for an hour is not actually much of a risk. If I very much fancy the girl I'm going to go there to find out! Final tip of course is simply to ask a guy you've seen previously be with a girl. Nobody is offended if you ask for some general feedback without detail on a girl's level of service. I've done that plenty of times. Indeed I'll speak to a few guys in any club, find out who is a regular and ask for some tips. They've often come in very valuable. Some guys post long lists but unless there is a very detailed description it is useless unless you print it off. And if you walk around a club with a list in your robe, spot a girl on it, walk up with list in hand and say: "ah. Blonde, big tits, nice ass, curly hair, bad tattoo on left leg, tight pussy. Hi - you must be Mary?" it doesn't tend to start a session of well and you look a complete nerd! The forums are great when two or three guys comment that they have all sessioned with a girl recently and she was great or awful. It's worth remembering those names. I did that in my trip earlier this year when Danny posted about a girl he thought was poor. When she approached me I thought he must be mad as she was very pretty. So I ignored his advice and it was. More than poor! Lesson learned. I've had the opposite though. Gone with someone who might not normally have got my attention but got rave reviews here so gave her a go and ended up very pleased I did so.

    If some of the more regular guys at Artemis can add any tips to picking out the great performers it would benefit us all.

  2. #7725
    Quote Originally Posted by EricCartman  [View Original Post]
    Returned about 8 pm to Artemis on a Weds night. As others have noted, Wednesday is "not naked" day at Artemis so the girls were wearing bikinis, bra / panties, or even tight dresses. Not sure why they feel the need to do this 1 x / week, as naked makes it harder to hide things.

    Waited about 20 minutes and was rewarded with Gina (black girl from Namibia) returning to the main lounge. Grabbed her for what ended up being 1. 5 hrs in the room. I like the rooms out by the outside pool. You can just ask and the girls go out there no problem. Gina was fun and friendly. I think we started around 20:45 and we ended at 10:25, but she had lost track of time a bit and only charged me for 1. 5 hrs. All in 160 Euro.

    Had a steam and a dry sauna in the newer outside area, then a bite at the buffet. Reasonably decent food, actually. Back to the main lounge and it was *really* hard to try to find a next target. There are a lot of blondes walking around, in addition to the regular dark-haired romanians, but it's really hard to tell who is any good just by watching. Also some were so "fierce" in their bottle blonde look and fake boobs that I have to think they would be terrible in the room. A lot of the girls just have terrible non-friendly body language. There were a couple of blondes who I liked physically but I was afraid the session would be sharky and terrible.
    I am no veteran by any means but after having made three visits to Livingroom in NRW recently and being able to compare to a number of visits done to Artemis this spring, the difference in the level of GFE service and DFK is huge in favor of Livingroom.

    Artemis is great for optics and has a lot of beautiful girls but not very many that does good GFE and DFK. I tend to go for the non sharky girls at Artemis. The good girls seems to sit and wait for customers. I am also avoiding girls sitting in a group together seeming not being interested in the men at all. Good luck with the hunting!

  3. #7724

    Dessous tag

    Cheers guys!

    I have an option go to Artemis either on Wednesday or Friday.

    Just need an opinion from regulars is Dessous Tag worth it to go, because last time when I was there to see totally naked ladies was a big bonus. What is your impression or recommendation.

    Thanks!

  4. #7723

    Artemis Day 2

    Returned about 8 pm to Artemis on a Weds night. As others have noted, Wednesday is "not naked" day at Artemis so the girls were wearing bikinis, bra / panties, or even tight dresses. Not sure why they feel the need to do this 1 x / week, as naked makes it harder to hide things.

    Waited about 20 minutes and was rewarded with Gina (black girl from Namibia) returning to the main lounge. Grabbed her for what ended up being 1. 5 hrs in the room. I like the rooms out by the outside pool. You can just ask and the girls go out there no problem. Gina was fun and friendly. I think we started around 20:45 and we ended at 10:25, but she had lost track of time a bit and only charged me for 1. 5 hrs. All in 160 Euro.

    Had a steam and a dry sauna in the newer outside area, then a bite at the buffet. Reasonably decent food, actually. Back to the main lounge and it was *really* hard to try to find a next target. There are a lot of blondes walking around, in addition to the regular dark-haired romanians, but it's really hard to tell who is any good just by watching. Also some were so "fierce" in their bottle blonde look and fake boobs that I have to think they would be terrible in the room. A lot of the girls just have terrible non-friendly body language. There were a couple of blondes who I liked physically but I was afraid the session would be sharky and terrible.

    Ended up going with Lorraine from Hungary. She has great muscular legs (was wearing boots) from apparently having played handball before her working girl career. Reasonably nice personality, some light kissing, good eye contact. All in all a reasonable service. 110 Euro including the basic 30 minutes and some extra. Did not clock-watch esp after I agreed to the extra.

    I still find it much more difficult to make a connection with the girls than with garotas in Brazil. But hey when in Germany.

    Any other suggestions on how to sort out the better performers from the weak ones, especially when you don't know their names, gratefully appreciated.

    -Cartman

  5. #7722
    Quote Originally Posted by HessenBub  [View Original Post]
    I've never heard of a FKK club where the female part of a couple doesn't have to pay entry.

    HB.
    This corresponds to my experience. Oase was certainly quite happy to take my money for two entry fees every time I showed up there with a female guest. If someone knows better, than please tell me because I will certainly be bringing other girls there in the future.

  6. #7721
    So who are the salaried employees who don't pay entrance fee? Hopefully Mauro does nt charge himself, LOL. The bartenders, cooks, bouncers, cleaning people etc? What about the masseuse, wonder if s / he has to pay, since they freelance and get paid similar to the hookers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ortos  [View Original Post]
    I think you got this one absolutely wrong: Everybody pays entry fee to get into Oase. Even Mauro's mother has to pay to get in!

  7. #7720
    I've never heard of a FKK club where the female part of a couple doesn't have to pay entry. That may be true for Party- or Swingerclubs.

    HB.

  8. #7719
    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus8  [View Original Post]
    Perhaps I misjudged Brianna bc I was put off due to her approach. Maybe I should try her next time or perhaps she likes you.

    Cheyenne? Black curly hair wearing glasses?
    Brianna can be a bit pushy but I have read other positive reviews of her and we had great fun in the room with lots of kissing.

    Cheynne is the best PSE style girl I've tried in Artemis. No glasses what I recall, silicones that look a bit oversized on her petite frame. She is really skinny and her whole back is covered with a tatoo with a couple of faces if I recall correctly. Her hair is sometimes put up in a knot. I did a lot of positions with her, she did deepthroat, CIM and anal with great enthusiasm. I like to do anal in mish with eye contact and she was great at that. In doggy she was very active and pushed herself onto my dick. I've had a couple of different sessions with her and would repeat every time.

  9. #7718
    Quote Originally Posted by RempNobbes  [View Original Post]
    I only know that a couple, men and girl can enter Oase. The girl does not have to pay entry fee.
    I think you got this one absolutely wrong: Everybody pays entry fee to get into Oase. Even Mauro's mother has to pay to get in!

  10. #7717
    Thank you for your answers gentlemen.

    I tried to search info at Artemis homepage before, but they didn't mention anything about female guests.

  11. #7716
    Quote Originally Posted by Guy93  [View Original Post]
    What is Artemis policy when it comes to female guests? Are they even allowed to entry the club?

    Do they get free entry or free entry when they come with a man or have they always got to pay that 80?
    As far as I know not. In Artemis there are no couples, men and girl, even so lonely women or lesbian couples allowed. I only know that a couple, men and girl can enter Oase. The girl does not have to pay entry fee. One other club now is the Oceans in Düsseldorf. There are couples, men and girl, as so women alone and lesbian couple allowed. They have free entrance all the time.
    I really saw some joining the club with bathrobes. Interesting aspect. One time I came from the sauna, I disturbed accidentally a couple in the shower area. The women started to blow her (a) man.

  12. #7715
    Quote Originally Posted by Guy93  [View Original Post]
    What is Artemis policy when it comes to female guests? Are they even allowed to entry the club?
    No admittance for female guests.

  13. #7714
    Quote Originally Posted by Guy93  [View Original Post]
    What is Artemis policy when it comes to female guests? Are they even allowed to entry the club?

    Do they get free entry or free entry when they come with a man or have they always got to pay that 80?
    Female guests are banned unless she wants to work in Artemis. In this way she needs to book time for interview. But only entry is not allowed for women guests.

  14. #7713
    Quote Originally Posted by Hermann666  [View Original Post]
    Brianna from Spain does kissing with lots of energy. She's short and super tiny with black hair and blue lenses over the brown eyes.

    Also Cheyenne, German super thin girl with silicone and a tattoo over her whole back, is really hot, but no kissing. She's more of the PSE type. Looks a bit like Anne Hathaway.
    Perhaps I misjudged Brianna bc I was put off due to her approach. Maybe I should try her next time or perhaps she likes you.

    Cheyenne? Black curly hair wearing glasses?

  15. #7712
    What is Artemis policy when it comes to female guests? Are they even allowed to entry the club?

    Do they get free entry or free entry when they come with a man or have they always got to pay that 80?

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