German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Optimist]

Really helpful and interesting experiences from everybody. It's very complicated since if it turns out a girl really has strong feelings that can be really difficult. One worker got to the point where she said that if people had sex then it meant they should be married: somehow she could have sex with other customers, no problem, but with me sex was only permissible if we got married. This also happened with another worker. It was a real nuisance. They were willing to meet and chat for free, but no more sex.

One time it got even wierder and one girl made it quite clear she didn't want me to visit FKKs at all.!

Less problematical recently a worker kept asking me to stay and making upset faces, so I said that living with her in a clubroom was both far too expensive and not a life: she howled with laughter. I said I had run out of money, at which point she decided it was to allow me leave.

Knowing people makes a great life

[Hessen Bub]

However this telephone contact can very quickly develop into a friendship / acquaintanceship which is very likely to limit your freedom when you visit the establishment in which this particular girl works. I have often observed situations where a guy visiting the club in which his telephone friend works is limited to just going with this particular girl and no other working girl in that establishment.

I never have or will let that happen. It's nice to know which favorite girls are working when and where. But that's it. Some girls tried the "and then you only go to the room with me and no other girl" on me. Failed.

HB.

[PussyLiccker]

I thought there are typical stages punters go through. Like the newbie stages where the punter feels something special for the girl when running into a good service for the first time. At this stage, most vulnerable to getting sharked or spending a whole lot on this girl. Then after, getting with enough girls, realizes that there are other girls that offers similar level services. When girls find these men, it's like a jackpot.

If the girl sacrifices something, then it's plausible there is something there. If thousands of Euros invested, and girl gives up her ass? Sounds hardly like any illusion. Sounds like a really expensive extra. LOL.

I've had something similar happen on a second meeting with a girl, and she was tight, so I gave up.

[Trans Atlantic]

McAdonis has a good point. Don't bail her out but give her the opportunity to earn it.

[McAdonis]

Indeed, over the months I have spent thousands of euro on the girl and she does a genuinely good session for me doing all the naughty things I like but she does not like anal that much and only does to please me per her words. Indeed she does look in pain when my cock is in her arsehole, asking only that I hurry up and come rather than prolong the anal fucking. I wonder if this is what Sirioja means by rude sex?


So all in all, I have paid probably the deposit on the Bucharest apartment but she does not seem to have any money.

The three girls that I "started" to develop feelings were girls for which I had an instant connection with. In other words, the first session was 50 EUR /30 min. The second session they offered either unpaid extras and / or free time inside / outside the room. Since the response from them was already warm by the time I had 50-200 EUR invested, I think I was able to more easily delude myself into believing that I offered them something more than money. I mean one girl, I had one 50 EUR sessions on the first night. Then she started giving me her 5 EUR cocktail coins so we could drink together, making it feel like a "normal interaction". Two hours and who knows how many drinks later, we did another 50 EUR /30 min session. I only considered those three "special". My problem is I force people to earn my trust. In the context of WG's, that means I am transfixed on the fact that they are only after my money. The burden is on them to prove otherwise, which the above-forementioned did to some degree.

As for other "traditional favorites", there have been girls that have gotten thousands of euros from me, but that was over the course of years. And I paid them essentially all based on standard pricing (except for the occasional waiving of fees for being five minutes over). I've never came close to developing feelings for them because I just can't get past seeing them as someone that performs a service for money (like a masseuse or housecleaner).

I agree that a girl asking for tips and gifts can be a turn off but if you have feelings for a girl then it is hard to say no and have perspective if you have no one like you doing this hobby and can explain to them what is happening to make sure that you do not do things on a whim. I mean if a man has his own money with no calls on those assets like wives or children or other dependents then it can be easy to fritter cash away with nothing else to spend their money on.

It is unclear as to what you were willing to tip or gift to a girl on a whim. But you're talking about needing other mongers to give you a sanity check. So in the past, you must have considered gifting something substantially expensive to a WG--even if only momentarily? If you are really serious about helping this WG with her apartment, that is your prerogative and your money. But I wouldn't just gift it to her in a lump sum. She might just run off with the money. Why not seek overnight sessions? Essentially, you are a making a commitment to "elite level" customer status. And she is actually earning that money.

You mention feelings. If those feelings are reciprocal, then she'd be willing to sacrifice things of value to her: time and money. Just curious--if you were to have an emergency like losing your passport and wallet, do you think she would drop everything, leave the club and go help you (loan you pocket money for a hotel, cab, etc)? Or if you told her your investments tanked and that you had to cut back the amount you spend on her over the next six months, would she cut back her services? Clearly she seems to be testing you, why not test her back?

[Capt Dan]

The best, for me, is a club like Oase or Sharks (used to be World too), where, when I walk in the door, there are multiple possibilities of girls, either from a pool of historically acquired regular girls or girls I did once and want to repeat with, and ever changing enticing new girls just joining the line-up. (Sorry, I didn't mean that last sentence to sound like text from a tourist brochure to FKKdom.).

I can understand why Ortos would wonder about the advantages of having telephone contact with FKK / Sauna working girls. Like him I prefer to walk into a club and have unhindered selection of whatever lady takes my fancy. However, when you regularly visit these FKK establishments it is difficult not to strike up acquaintanceship with the independent contractors and if you are a nice guy with a tendency to spend money it is very easy for you to become the favourite of some of these working girls and possibly not always for the wrong purely financial reasons.

Knowing what her schedule is.

Knowing if she switches clubs.

Knowing when she is on holiday.

Seeing her outside for either just a coffee or drinks or dinner.

Or taking her to a hotel. Money involved or not.

HB.

As HB points out there are some advantages to having telephone contact with a club girl. However this telephone contact can very quickly develop into a friendship / acquaintanceship which is very likely to limit your freedom when you visit the establishment in which this particular girl works. I have often observed situations where a guy visiting the club in which his telephone friend works is limited to just going with this particular girl and no other working girl in that establishment. Generally speaking this special relationship is easily broken and the special favours which are offered by the club favourite in question, can very quickly be withdrawn, unless the relationship is based purely on monetary gain. In other words there can often be an expectation on the girls side that you will go exclusively with her when you are in the club. If the relationship is based purely on cash advantage, any transgression will be quickly forgiven provided the bulk of your zimmer money is being delivered to the working girl friend in question. Sometimes there is a genuine attachment and the transgression is never really forgiven, although she may continue to take your zimmer money. If there are emotional attachments involved well then even a hooker can have feelings!

Saying all that, there are advantages to striking up friendships with some of these girls, provided you are willing to capitalize on the relationship. Recently enough, one of my FKK working girl acquaintances offered to come to my home town for a month for a cost to me of Euro 3000 (or Euro 300/ day). My guess is that I could have very easily negotiated this price down by maybe a third. I believe this girl is perhaps seeking more than money (perhaps a better life) and that is why I was given this offer. I have not (yet!) accepted this proposal, although from time to time I still consider it.

[FredZee]

If you cannot choose the time then asking the question is it any good to go to the clubs in the next two weeks due to the girls being on holiday is purely academic. You are going to the clubs or not going to the clubs. It is purely based on if you want to go unless there is some girl that you wish to see.

If you are like Ortos and do not take the handy number of any girls then you will have to take pot luck to see if any girl in any club that you pick will take your fancy. It is what we all do when we go as we have no idea really who we are going to see in the club.

Have fun.

Thanks for all who have responded. My question was really a matter of never having been at the clubs in July and if there is one better than another during this time but from the postings it all comes down picking between Oase, Sharks and World with Oase and Sharks being in the lead it seem as places to go to.

Have fun I will!

[Optimist]

I wouldn't pay for a girl to spend a holiday with me. If she wants to come and join for a day or a week, perfekt. I'll take care of the expenses for both. That's it. But to each his own.

That's my hope. I've currently got a girl saying she'll come to London to meet up and sightsee, and I'll pick up the basic expenses. Time will tell if it happens. Without her telephone number it wouldn't be possible. As you say, it might not suit everybody

[Hessen Bub]

Just ask Agnes for her mobile number. She does have a "client phone" and why shouldn't she give it to you?

I wouldn't pay for a girl to spend a holiday with me. If she wants to come and join for a day or a week, perfekt. I'll take care of the expenses for both. That's it. But to each his own.

HB.

[Ortos]

If you are like Ortos and do not take the handy number of any girls then you will have to take pot luck to see if any girl in any club that you pick will take your fancy.

Hold on, Cowboy: Where did you ever get this information? I never said I "do not take the handy number of any girls," did I? I just questioned the overall advantage of meeting outside the club. If, ultimately, it results in generating additional business / income for the girl (I dismiss the occurrance of a girl meeting you for sex without money involved as a rare and idealistic phenomenon), then it is of mutual benefit for both man and girl to exchange these numbers.

But nothing is ever written in stone: so many times I've asked a girl coming out of the session if she would be working the next day, etc. , and I show up and guess what?: she had a sudden change of plans.

At the end of the day, for me, I never know for sure which girl (s) I will session with until I have a shower, get changed and scan the line-up that day. Sure, I walk in hoping girl x, y, z will be there and available, but I never know 100% who I'm goin' bang for sure until I get there.

The best, for me, is a club like Oase or Sharks (used to be World too), where, when I walk in the door, there are multiple possibilities of girls, either from a pool of historically acquired regular girls or girls I did once and want to repeat with, and ever changing enticing new girls just joining the line-up. (Sorry, I didn't mean that last sentence to sound like text from a tourist brochure to FKKdom.).

[Syzygies]

Can somebody explain what the advantage is in maintaining contact with a girl (s) outside the club? Is just personal ego boost, or what? I don't see the real benefits.

Its not intended to be an ego thing for many. If you have a super favourite girl and wanto check when she is working, would be very handy. Choose wisely which girls to make contact. In many years of FKK I only collected contact numbers for about 6 girls. I met some of the girls outside to save an FKK visit. Lavinia I never met outside but just checked when she was working.

I would love to be able to check when Sharks Agnes is working, but cannot. 3 visits in a row managed to miss her. So bad. Like I need a club spy.

[Dufey]

I have heard guys providing assistance to girls in return for her to hang out and provide sexual services. Like for example a student in one of the poorest European country going to school or whatever and looking for supplementary fund to pay for things.

Yeah, I know a guy that invests hours in picking amateur girls off Craigslist to book to be his paid for escort. It can get it for 300 per day or sessions for 50 for as long as it takes.

He takes these girls on holiday with him for several days at a time. That is not too bad when you pay just 250 to 300 per day so a 5 day trip can be 1250 to 1500 which is what some guys can spend in the FKKs over a weekend.

We go to dinner together and I talk to him about FKKs and he tells me about all the deals he gets on Craigslist.

Something has to be said for these amateur student types that are a little naïve so this much older guy takes advantage of them as he is won't to do.

[Dufey]

Its really work that is taking me to the Frankfurt area during this time. So, not a matter of picking a good or bad time as its just the luck of the work schedule. Good or bad. Having said that, any preference order or its pretty much all the same, not as good as it would be any other time outside of the summer months?

If you cannot choose the time then asking the question is it any good to go to the clubs in the next two weeks due to the girls being on holiday is purely academic. You are going to the clubs or not going to the clubs. It is purely based on if you want to go unless there is some girl that you wish to see.

If you are like Ortos and do not take the handy number of any girls then you will have to take pot luck to see if any girl in any club that you pick will take your fancy. It is what we all do when we go as we have no idea really who we are going to see in the club.

Have fun.

[Dufey]

Can somebody explain what the advantage is in maintaining contact with a girl (s) outside the club? Is just personal ego boost, or what? I don't see the real benefits.

It is to know when a girl changes club or if you want to see her and you do not know what days she is working. Also it is nice to chat about stuff like what you do if you have friends.

The conversation does not always be if the girl does AO, or whether she will swallow your load or if you want her lick your hairy balls while you smoke and hold her head.

[PussyLiccker]

Guys need to realize if they are unable to pick up young girls with the same looks in real life, the FKK girl they are dreaming of is likely out of grasp.

That's the draw for me. With thousands of girls situated in various clubs and venues I like to find the hot ones I dream about. You run into them, and service is good, it's priceless. Who may be lurking somewhere in some club, there is no telling. With so many girls, with varying looks, it's a priceless moment when you stand there stunned(Thinking holy shit!) once you spotted one. But, I realized it's pretty rare. I had this happen in the past, but it's just random occurances, and they tend to disappear after a brief period. It was weird, one was at LR out of all places. When I first saw her I was thinking, what the hell is she doing in this club? Why isn't she in GT or something. I think it was good thing she was at LR because service was good and probably have enough experience without crowd of punters bringing down her service. Some girls like smaller environments as I've heard this from girls. Could be less competition or relaxed environment.