Nairobi

[Global Surfer]

Street violence is undeniably a problem and is attributed to rising unemployment secondary to loss of tourism amid political uncertainty and terrorism. Probably there is also some variation in perceived threat vs real threat. The hotel security guard commended me on "coming back alive" when I returned after dinner from Tom Mboya road. He advised me never to get out of the CBD after dark. Next day I was chatting with (or trying to chat up) the receptionist and her opinion was that the law and order situation is acceptable. I suppose that the some areas of Nairobi are no go areas at night. While CBD appears to be safe but iron bars on cash counters in ordinary shops and the sheer number of security guards are not encouraging.

To add to that, I witnessed three fights in four days including two in Simmers.

• A SW standing close to the wall was attacked by a few SWs from outside the club.

• A woman came and attacked a man and tried to drag him out of the club. I was told later that she was trying to take her husband back.

• A street fight between two young men. Interestingly passer by patiently waited for the outcome.

Airport is very basic. More basic then I was expecting. Flight landed at around 02:00 pm and I decided to take the bus #34 to the city. There was not much point in saving GBP 10 taxi fare while staying in Hilton but I wanted to see real Nairobi and I definitely got that. Approximately 1 hour drive is through the slums with virtually non-existent roads and no sewerage. The traffic can be described as chaotic chaos.

I find most Kenyans fluent in English and friendly. There is plenty of talent both on the street and inside bars and is cheap and available. First time I realized what does the word 'semi pro' means as I noticed girls falling in love with me in apparently non pro places like Samba Brasilia on Moi Ave and I – something (I forgot the name) on Kimathi Street even though I had company (of course another wg). Food outside CBD is real Kenyan, nice and very cheap. Inside CBD you can find western burgers and coffee for half the price you pay in West.

Downside are.

• Risk of mugging / violence.

• Relentless begging for drink and sometimes even petty cash by WGs.

[Naked Gunz]

It should be good. Full of people but hard to tell exactly pros from none pros.

As long as they are not with a man they are available-at least for a subtle approach. Does not take much, just a little eye contact. Pros are the same the world over. Traveling alone or in packs, dressed overly sexy.

I gave her 100 USD.

You overpaid, but that's okay. I'm sure she was very happy with your generosity.

Black Diamond was almost dead, but again it was a Wednesday

BD is better Fri. And Sat. Going there early is actually a plus because you sit at the bar and watch them parade in as they go straight for the balcony. Its like a fashion show and since your early you get first pickings. Don't forget Tinder, the massage parlors and some internet connects before arrival to make things a bit easier.

[Aldente004]

Hi,

I was in Eron Hotel and I used Tinder.

The Hotel cost about 3000 Ksh. Per night for a double and it is clean. To bring somebody for a night is not a problem.

Just the area is not the best.

Tinder is great in just 2 hours a lot of contacts who a willing to play the game.

Greetings.

[TigerWoo]

So I like more upscale places and this was my rookie trip to Nairobi, so bound for making loads of mistakes, and here the result: I stayed at Sankara (not a mistake expensive but great Hotel) from Tuesday to Friday. Tuesday night tried K1, since understood.

It should be good. Full of people but hard to tell exactly pros from none pros. Ended up back alone at Sankara and Rooftop Bar was closed. Wednesday went to Black Diamond (too early around 22.00), only good looking one was from Tanzania, but she really had a.

Bad odor, so went back to Sankara rooftop. There was 3 girls at the Bar, only one really good looking, but also 6-7 men sitting around, so she was not in a hurry. Talked to her briefly and she asked 20000, so I passed, mainly because I had to get up early (anyway looked like she.

Had been flirting for a while we a body builder type sitting near. Or that was at least the explanation I gave myself) My last night I had to do something. I have asked one of the drivers connected to the Hotel that have been driving me around in daytime and he.

Recommended me to try Gipsy Bar right next to the Hotel. I would not call it an upscale place, but it was okay, and there were a few nice looking girls. I ended up with beautiful 25 year old, did not talk money at all, she just went with me and in the morning I gave her 100 USD.

And some taxi money and she seemed happy. I have good upscale experience from Hong Kong, Bangkok, Singapore, Dubai and Europe, but this was my first Africa trip and I probable did not go to the most upscale places in Nairobi as I wanted to (or did I?) Conclusion is that Rooftop at Sankara.

Seems expensive and I am not sure that the talent justify that. K1 I think is good, but you just need to spend a little more time there and preferable with some friends I guess. Black Diamond was almost dead, but again it was a Wednesday and before midnight. Gipsy I liked.

But ratio men to women was actually not great, I just got lucky. Hope this is helpful, but I still very much would like to get some more advice from the more experienced gentlemen here, as to more upscale bars and clubs, as I do not mind paying for 8-10 quality girls.

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[Naked Gunz]

I checked out new Madhouse Not very impressed. I logged into Tinder and matched with over 20 top quality ladies Sankara bar for the first time which was very good if you want an escape from the typical Kenyan club nights (though it does close early).

Wow great post! Detailed, informative and not full of superfluous BS, like how you pulled out your dick and fucked her- which many here seem to crave. Thanks!

[Kib123]

No!

First, my post is not personal its come to illustrate how scammers "some" of kenyan could be.

When I have lived in mombasa I saw crazy things such as my fiend bought furniture to his hotel and has pay some of the money in advance in order to give the supplier a starter to make his furniture. The supplier never deliver the Merchandise.

Another case he bought copper wires for electricity. He got everything but no copper inside the plastic isolation.

I have many more examples all of them during my year stay in Mombasa when I saw how they make business.

Conclusion: pay nothing in advanced even via "trusted" website. If you book an hotel go directly to the property check everything and then pay only for the shortest time possible to test things. Then you may extend your stay.

Things are getting more complicated in Kenya especially when we need also to consider security.

We all do mistake that's life but again never trust anyone in Kenya especially hotel stuff that often Cooperating with Thieves.

Not sure I woul blame these on Kenyans more than I would blame them on amateur greed. Trying to get a killer deal rough shoddy channels rarely works anywhere.

[Jamie69]

Another week here and I have reported here before on my usual locations so just some updates on new places.

I checked out new Madhouse (literally round the corner from the old one). I was there from about 2 am to 4 am on a Thursday. Not very impressed. Spread over one floor and one long bar and not the same atmosphere as the old one. Not too busy but the women were hard core, not impressive and a bore. Was not tempted to return with so many other venues on offer. There is a small VIP room but I didn't bother checking it out.

One afternoon when bored I logged into Tinder and matched with over 20 top quality ladies within a couple of hours one of whom I met (there are some out and out pros on there). I don't usually use such sights as I much prefer the thrill of walking into a club, spending some time checking out the options, doing some flirting and catching the number one target. Plus its easier to walk away than if you have arranged to meet someone online. However I have to admit that the quality on Tinder was very good and easy to hook up.

I also went to the rooftop Sankara bar for the first time which was very good if you want an escape from the typical Kenyan club nights (though it does close early).

[Member #4178]

Happy?

No!

First, my post is not personal its come to illustrate how scammers "some" of kenyan could be.

When I have lived in mombasa I saw crazy things such as my fiend bought furniture to his hotel and has pay some of the money in advance in order to give the supplier a starter to make his furniture. The supplier never deliver the Merchandise.

Another case he bought copper wires for electricity. He got everything but no copper inside the plastic isolation.

I have many more examples all of them during my year stay in Mombasa when I saw how they make business.

Conclusion: pay nothing in advanced even via "trusted" website. If you book an hotel go directly to the property check everything and then pay only for the shortest time possible to test things. Then you may extend your stay.

Things are getting more complicated in Kenya especially when we need also to consider security.

We all do mistake that's life but again never trust anyone in Kenya especially hotel stuff that often Cooperating with Thieves.

[Naked Gunz]

What kind of person will pay to kenyan prior of getting anything first? Unbelievable amateur move.

Okay, normally I would unleash my wrath at your jab at me, but I neglected to give all the details to this transaction. It was through a travel website. A MIDDLE FUCKING MAN THAT HELD THE MONEY UNTIL ALL WAS SETTLED! I did not send money across to the planet to a complete fucking stranger. Happy?

[Member #4178]

A lying ass Kikuyu advertised his apartment as being in Westlands, which I booked, but upon arrival found it in Eastleigh. It took lots of calls and talking to get most of my money back from that scumbag. That kind of stuff can overwhelm a first timer.

What kind of person will pay to kenyan prior of getting anything first? Unbelievable amateur move.

[Naked Gunz]

By the way Nairobi has much more to offer than the CBD and Westlands.

Yes but its usually newbies that inquire and the reality of NBO is that your first few solo trips probably should be worked from the CBD. Its just so much easier. After a few trips you learn what clubs / bars you prefer, how to ride the bus / matatus, and how to score all types besides pros. A lying ass Kikuyu advertised his apartment as being in Westlands, which I booked, but upon arrival found it in Eastleigh. It took lots of calls and talking to get most of my money back from that scumbag. That kind of stuff can overwhelm a first timer.

[SceticoBlu]

Has anyone stayed here recently? I have used both (both are pretty crappy but cheap) and they were cheap. Just looking for recent feedback on these very central Locations.

By the way, the standard varies wildly; my last room was in Terminal facing the street and the room was excellent with a very interesting view at a couple of streetwalkers in the afternoon outside the shopping mall. Both dressed as non-pros; they actially looked like regular business ladies. Maybe I shall have a go in a couple of weeks.

Thanks for any input and have a safe trip.

I stayed there 2012 and 2013, the prize for the single being KSH 1800 at this time. When I walked by 2 months ago the receptionist said its 3000 now. The side of the Nakumat Lifestyle opposite the hotel (in fact its a 1 star GH in relatively central location) is still under construction so there is noise (which however was always a problem there) and the cafe with the terrasse is closed.

By the way Nairobi has much more to offer than the CBD and Westlands.

[Jazz123]

Has anyone stayed here recently? I have used both (both are pretty crappy but cheap) and they were cheap. Just looking for recent feedback on these very central Locations.

By the way, the standard varies wildly; my last room was in Terminal facing the street and the room was excellent with a very interesting view at a couple of streetwalkers in the afternoon outside the shopping mall. Both dressed as non-pros; they actially looked like regular business ladies. Maybe I shall have a go in a couple of weeks.

Thanks for any input and have a safe trip.

[Nobetane]

Thank you!

Great insightful reporting. Well appreciated.

[Naked Gunz]

Thanks for providing the price range.

I planned to visit Nairobi a few months ago and got excellent information from member specially from Naked Gunz. Are police scan common in Nairobi? Involving fake police or genuine police?

Did someone call me? Helloooooooooooooooooooo! My advice: Cops are not in the position to scam you unless you are doing dirty deeds to attract their attention anyway. True? For instance, A friend took a sexy young thing from Simmers that claimed she was 19, yet had no identification. Well, she is in a bar with a drink. All is good. The hotel (Chesterhouse) requires the lady show her documents upon entry. He bribed the guards a few hundred shillings each to poo poo the rules. They are meant to be broken-no?

While his penis was doing what is does best, he said he kept the vision of the surly guard that took his shillings in his head. The guards eyes said "It's not enough". Now, had these gentleman called certain buddies with real law enforcement powers, his ass and wallet could have been in real danger of probing. She could have been 100 yo. A quick convo in Swahili between her and cops could result in serious bribe money. Fortunately, the Gunz, I mean my friend, thought better of an all night party and sent her right back to Simmers after a quick shag. After all, the city is literally full of pussy. No need to risk the rest of the trip.

Global Surfer, your not thinking "Globally" . Realize that Kenya is in a tourism crisis. Only horny dogs are going there. Any cop shaking down a tourist now is a fucking idiot and not getting the memo from the top. Any problems should be challenged if you are not doing dirty deeds. If it were to happen, I would think it would not happen in Nairobi, but in Mombasa and other areas, away from big bosses in the big city. I don't go to Mombasa. People tow the line more in Nairobi.