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  1. #14759
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus2  [View Original Post]
    I know, it's not that fun to hang out with a girl you can't communicate with, but its working girls we talking about, I get bored after 2 days anyway and I always think that the perfect one is behind the next corner. I just feel that walking the tourist gringo path will fast get boring. 10 years ago I wouldn't asked these questions, I just would have done it and told the tale but I am not young anymore (years make you little bit lazy hehe).

    Cheers
    Well like I said in my earlier post. If you just want to deal with Pro's and working girls, You don't need to know Portuguese your money is good enough, But the working girls your dealing with is the left over trash that everybody has fucked already. Remember Brazil has a Population of over 200 Million People, So if you really want to see the Real Brazil and get access to Non-Pros and The Cream of the Crop it helps if you know Portuguese if you want to branch out and not just bang girls that everybody has fucked already.

    Some of the baddest chicks I fucked in Brazil were not chicks you would find in the Termas or at Balcony / Mabs.

  2. #14758
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    When mongering in Brazil, you do not need to know Portuguese as your wallet full of green cash will do the talking, Now if you want to venture out and get Non-Pros and Regular Girls or just get a Cheaper Rate, your Brazilian View will open up if you know Portuguese. The women will reward you, and you can expect better GFE, as they can actually communicate with you. Nothing is more boring to a Women or even a Brazilian women, to be in a room with a man she can't communicate with or express herself too. She will be bored to death.

    Communication is key and it makes a huge difference. So it helps to learn a language. Just like when I go to the Philippines and monger, out of all the countries I have been too, I have a more human connection with the Filipino women as they know English and it makes a huge difference in my mongering experience.
    I know, it's not that fun to hang out with a girl you can't communicate with, but its working girls we talking about, I get bored after 2 days anyway and I always think that the perfect one is behind the next corner. I just feel that walking the tourist gringo path will fast get boring. 10 years ago I wouldn't asked these questions, I just would have done it and told the tale but I am not young anymore (years make you little bit lazy hehe).

    Maybe my question was misleading. Year's ago I lived in China and the places I went to there I wouldn't recommend a newbie to; it would have been leading the lamb to slather, now my chines wasn't god at all but I dig get around with it and over the years I got the know how (today all gone) but without it I would had been screwed over million times (I only got screwed mile times learning hehe), now in China I never worried about things getting violent they just overcharge you as much as they could.

    So my question was more related to that, if I venture out to the places I find in gpgua (they have similar type forums in China) for example that's more for the locals and not for gringos without the ability to speak Porto will they try to royally screw you over every possible way or will I get something positive out of it, and from a safety perspective, is it worth the risk?. Or is it a risk? . to wandering off the normal gringo tourist grid without Porto.

    BTW I never been to Philippines but I done some in HK and SH, great girls but nothing compare to Brazilians when it comes to fucking hehehe.

    Cheers

  3. #14757
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus2  [View Original Post]
    With your experience, do you think it's possible to be successful with no Portuguese?. Or is it just a stupid idea to even try?
    When mongering in Brazil, you do not need to know Portuguese as your wallet full of green cash will do the talking, Now if you want to venture out and get Non-Pros and Regular Girls or just get a Cheaper Rate, your Brazilian View will open up if you know Portuguese. The women will reward you, and you can expect better GFE, as they can actually communicate with you. Nothing is more boring to a Women or even a Brazilian women, to be in a room with a man she can't communicate with or express herself too. She will be bored to death.

    Communication is key and it makes a huge difference. So it helps to learn a language. Just like when I go to the Philippines and monger, out of all the countries I have been too, I have a more human connection with the Filipino women as they know English and it makes a huge difference in my mongering experience.

  4. #14756
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus2  [View Original Post]
    I plan a new trip next year, but I guess I wait until after the Olympics. I think it's hard enough to get around in the tourist areas with only English but I would like to explore other areas like the ones you talk about. This trip we didn't even consider that, time was short and we just felt it would be too much work and as gringos with no Porto we would been too easy targets to roll around in those places / areas. And we believed that in those places / areas the ability to speak English among the working girls would be very limited. I don't know, am I right?

    With your experience, do you think it's possible to be successful with no Portuguese?. Or is it just a stupid idea to even try?

    The price for all night at mabs was what we paid 3-400 but I wouldn't agree that this is the bottom scrap, for sure the lowest 30% is not much but when we was there it always turned up hot ones late at night. The quality in places like Barbarella, 4 x4 is just more even and don't have that bottom scrap. The different from my perspective was that mabs covered all the scale and the ugly ones usually with god English ability's thrived on that (usually the ones working the crowd hardest). That's how I looked at the situation.

    The picture I got from the mabs girl I did when I asked why she didn't work in a place like Barb, she had the look, the moves, friends working there and everything required (I did 3 different from barb this trip). Normally at barb the get a customer every 2 e day, sure they get better paid but a bad week there can be hard. At mabs she got work almost every day, more party and she felt it was more fun going to mabs when she needed cash and bigger freedom. And I believe that's why the quality got up later in the evening, girls coming in from other venues. But I might be wrong.

    Barb supposed to be top of the pops but I wasn't impressed (only 1 high end club in SP impressed me this trip). I got the feeling that in Rio it's a lot of leg work if you want to find hot girls for a god price, and to speak Porto is an necessity, am I wrong here? Am I doomed to failure if I try those types of places without Portuguese?
    Very limited to non-existent english in most places but don't let that put you off-sign / body language is universal. Just don't go super gringo on the spots-below-key and blend in.

  5. #14755
    Quote Originally Posted by FuckAfMedDig  [View Original Post]
    All night shd be max 400 for mabs girls. Those hoes are scraping the bottom. You can better VM girls for 150/200 a night if you search.

    Yes it drives price up.

    Personally I find Tier 1 termas way too plastic-I think as my portugues increased to a fluent level, the clock watch of the 60 minutes in expensive termas doesn't appeal.

    I prefer the more ghetto vibe in centro spots or vm.

    More honest and if you make connect with girl properly, they will come for food / drinks / transport or minimal pay.

    First 1. 5 years I was all over MC etc-last year I find it has turned super plastic.

    Just my thoughts.

    Man like Vagabundo1 gets numbers and brings them over-clearly works-I don't even feel the chicks in 4 x 4 any more-few decent ones but vibe is factory-get a good ghetto chick and shell do you right.
    I plan a new trip next year, but I guess I wait until after the Olympics. I think it's hard enough to get around in the tourist areas with only English but I would like to explore other areas like the ones you talk about. This trip we didn't even consider that, time was short and we just felt it would be too much work and as gringos with no Porto we would been too easy targets to roll around in those places / areas. And we believed that in those places / areas the ability to speak English among the working girls would be very limited. I don't know, am I right?

    With your experience, do you think it's possible to be successful with no Portuguese?. Or is it just a stupid idea to even try?

    The price for all night at mabs was what we paid 3-400 but I wouldn't agree that this is the bottom scrap, for sure the lowest 30% is not much but when we was there it always turned up hot ones late at night. The quality in places like Barbarella, 4 x4 is just more even and don't have that bottom scrap. The different from my perspective was that mabs covered all the scale and the ugly ones usually with god English ability's thrived on that (usually the ones working the crowd hardest). That's how I looked at the situation.

    The picture I got from the mabs girl I did when I asked why she didn't work in a place like Barb, she had the look, the moves, friends working there and everything required (I did 3 different from barb this trip). Normally at barb the get a customer every 2 e day, sure they get better paid but a bad week there can be hard. At mabs she got work almost every day, more party and she felt it was more fun going to mabs when she needed cash and bigger freedom. And I believe that's why the quality got up later in the evening, girls coming in from other venues. But I might be wrong.

    Barb supposed to be top of the pops but I wasn't impressed (only 1 high end club in SP impressed me this trip). I got the feeling that in Rio it's a lot of leg work if you want to find hot girls for a god price, and to speak Porto is an necessity, am I wrong here? Am I doomed to failure if I try those types of places without Portuguese?

  6. #14754
    Quote Originally Posted by SeanEZ  [View Original Post]
    3 days Rio side trip recap. Went to MC on Sat, Mabs Sunday, 4 x4 and Centaurio (Ipanema). I was in Rio 8-10 years ago and had one of the hottest girls I've ever been with at L-Uumo. Not this time. Lots of young eye candy in Ipanema daytime but that's not the kind you get in the termas. Most girls were big butt ghetto hood rats for lack of a better term. MC and 4 x4 are not anywhere near what I had expected to be a Hi end clean, both rather dirty and dark dance floor places. Now maybe these were not the best nights and there are hundreds of other thermas in Rio but that's a lot of leg work. The ride from Ipanema to centro is at least 30 minutes and that's with no rush hour traffic. And if you are coming all the way on a 12 hour flight one should expect quality without therma hopping. Maybe things have moved to freelance scene in nightclubs I didn't get a chance to check those out. Also surprised a big city like Rio doesn't have a big late night freelance afters (like Love Story SP). If you've got a week and look in the right places you will probably do better. But in terms of quality and if you are looking for 18-21 age fresh girls I don't think you will find it in Rio easily. Maybe some escorts and searching Tinder profiles. I am comparing to what you get in Bangkok lots of fresh talent or German FKK clubs in terms of quality. But if you are looking to bang numbers Brazilian girls are the best, kissing, BBBJ etc etc is just normal for them. Also a disappointment compared to SP where you've got big clubs like Foto and Bomboa and Kilt full of hot babes, I think Rio is more oriented towards termas compared to SP. The SP girls reminded me a lot of London working girls, mid 20's to mid 30's, Gucci clad bitches and lots of silicon. Will post SP experience and prices in that thread.
    Well I just came back from Rio about a week ago. Most of the Action is in the Termas. I did not even bother to check out Mabs, as I know the quality will be subpar. After the Olympics Brazil will turn back into the glory days, Its already turning into a bargain. If you check Out Tam Airlines, They have specials to RIO, Round Trip Airfare for $500 Flat, And the Currency will be 5 to 1 by next year. You just have to wait until the Olympics Hype is over and then you are really going to see a bust, as everybody is going to cash out and run!

  7. #14753
    3 days Rio side trip recap. Went to MC on Sat, Mabs Sunday, 4 x4 and Centaurio (Ipanema). I was in Rio 8-10 years ago and had one of the hottest girls I've ever been with at L-Uumo. Not this time. Lots of young eye candy in Ipanema daytime but that's not the kind you get in the termas. Most girls were big butt ghetto hood rats for lack of a better term. MC and 4 x4 are not anywhere near what I had expected to be a Hi end clean, both rather dirty and dark dance floor places. Now maybe these were not the best nights and there are hundreds of other thermas in Rio but that's a lot of leg work. The ride from Ipanema to centro is at least 30 minutes and that's with no rush hour traffic. And if you are coming all the way on a 12 hour flight one should expect quality without therma hopping. Maybe things have moved to freelance scene in nightclubs I didn't get a chance to check those out. Also surprised a big city like Rio doesn't have a big late night freelance afters (like Love Story SP). If you've got a week and look in the right places you will probably do better. But in terms of quality and if you are looking for 18-21 age fresh girls I don't think you will find it in Rio easily. Maybe some escorts and searching Tinder profiles. I am comparing to what you get in Bangkok lots of fresh talent or German FKK clubs in terms of quality. But if you are looking to bang numbers Brazilian girls are the best, kissing, BBBJ etc etc is just normal for them. Also a disappointment compared to SP where you've got big clubs like Foto and Bomboa and Kilt full of hot babes, I think Rio is more oriented towards termas compared to SP. The SP girls reminded me a lot of London working girls, mid 20's to mid 30's, Gucci clad bitches and lots of silicon. Will post SP experience and prices in that thread.

  8. #14752
    Quote Originally Posted by SBTiger  [View Original Post]
    Not familiar with the Brazilian scene, planning to go to Rio or SP this winter.

    Do all these establishments provide rooms or you need to take them to your hotel or some place?

    Thanks.
    All night shd be max 400 for mabs girls. Those hoes are scraping the bottom. You can better VM girls for 150/200 a night if you search.

    Yes it drives price up.

    Personally I find Tier 1 termas way too plastic-I think as my portugues increased to a fluent level, the clock watch of the 60 minutes in expensive termas doesn't appeal.

    I prefer the more ghetto vibe in centro spots or vm.

    More honest and if you make connect with girl properly, they will come for food / drinks / transport or minimal pay.

    First 1. 5 years I was all over MC etc-last year I find it has turned super plastic.

    Just my thoughts.

    Man like Vagabundo1 gets numbers and brings them over-clearly works-I don't even feel the chicks in 4 x 4 any more-few decent ones but vibe is factory-get a good ghetto chick and shell do you right.

  9. #14751
    Quote Originally Posted by MRusa007  [View Original Post]
    Fellow friends.

    Contemplating a trip to Rio from Christmas to New Year. The flights are crazy expensive. The entire trip is all about mongering. I like MC. And had a crazy great time. 3 days 13 rounds 10 girls. I was able to afford the luxury and absolutely nothing nothing to complain. Had the best time ever.

    So during this season based on the flight cost it is very clear it is a peak holiday season for americans. Does it get difficult to get laid in MC due to crowd and being a catholic country do you think all these places will be closed and girls will leave to their home states?
    I often visit Rio over Christmas and NY. It is not the best time to visit if your main focus in on P4 P. All places are closed on the main holidays.

    NYE in Copacabana is a blast, not from a sex point of view, but great atmosphere and party.

    Most tourists at this time is non mongers, so the termas are usually not crowded.

  10. #14750
    Quote Originally Posted by MRusa007  [View Original Post]
    Fellow friends.

    Contemplating a trip to Rio from Christmas to New Year. The flights are crazy expensive. The entire trip is all about mongering. I like MC. And had a crazy great time. 3 days 13 rounds 10 girls. I was able to afford the luxury and absolutely nothing nothing to complain. Had the best time ever.

    So during this season based on the flight cost it is very clear it is a peak holiday season for americans. Does it get difficult to get laid in MC due to crowd and being a catholic country do you think all these places will be closed and girls will leave to their home states?
    Christmas to New Year is the peak season for all foreign tourism in Brazil. Propably the worst week to monger during the whole year. The 25:th all puteiros are closed, the same goes for the 26:th and 27:th, propably the 31:st as well. They should be open only the 28-30 of Dezember. Most likely many girls won't turn up during these three days. They will be with their families or travel.

  11. #14749
    Quote Originally Posted by SBTiger  [View Original Post]
    Not familiar with the Brazilian scene, planning to go to Rio or SP this winter.

    Do all these establishments provide rooms or you need to take them to your hotel or some place?

    Thanks.
    Terma and spa / massage parlors have rooms and you're supposed to do it in the house.

    Mabs is a bar with FL girls so you need to take them back to your apartment or hotel, alternative love motel (the girls know) and the same goes for Barbarella and other places (it's possible barb have rooms, I don't remember).

    In SP I think all the clubs like Bomboa, Gauguin, Casario (at least the one I been to) and so on have rooms for rent or love motel close by, but you always have the option to bring them back to the hotel. I didn't found a FL bar option like mabs in SP.

    God luck, Brazil is an amazing place to play around in.

  12. #14748
    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    Hi. That was Rio de Janeiro.
    I've answered your PM.
    Have fun!
    Thanks, Sperto. I wrote back to you just now.

  13. #14747

    Where do you take girls

    Not familiar with the Brazilian scene, planning to go to Rio or SP this winter.

    Do all these establishments provide rooms or you need to take them to your hotel or some place?

    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus2  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for all for writing here.

    It's a 2 part report on RJ, nothing new that's not written here already but I contribute anyway, maybe some other tourist get something out of this. A report from a short time tourist perspective didn't have time to write while there so it's not a day fresh report. Sorry for my crappy English.

    I am middle age, don't speak Porto and don't see the meaning of learning just for using it a couple of day with years between. Just there for a couple of days and didn't want to waste too much time searching pussy, (Centro spa and so on) so I spend some extra cash and did it the easy / lazy tourist trap way, I'm not much for the 3 e hole and I don't ask if they do. Been all over and I think I am pretty god to see the signs and picking out the god girls in this biz. I always aim for the lookers but think attitude beats look every day playing this game.

    Accommodation part 1. Rio apartment around posto5. Ok apartment, very basic, but it worked for us. Can recommend there service, don't have any complaints.

    First night.

    Late arrival so the terma / spa option wasn't there, well MC is open to 02.00 I think, but we skipped that. Taxi to Mabs, eat drink and checked out the options there, but it was a little too early to get rolling, but at that point we didn't know that, based on reports here we assumed that it will only be a place to drink and watch the world pass by. Off to senso?(not sure about the name) around the corner, not much happen there, some hot ones but still too early, A couple of beers and off to Barbarella.

    OK quality on the girls, there were some doable hot ones there. They had some sort of a pole dance but I wouldn't define this as a strip club in that matter, more like a restaurant environment with hot girls. Anyway, some of the girls dancing were very hot and I ended up with a hot mulatta with all natural things hanging around. Most girls had silicon, but she was only dancer that you clearly could see was all natural. Settled for 800 all night, (asked for 1500 all night) she stayed to 10-11 the morning after. Nice hot girl with a great natural body, god fuck but nothing I will remember couple of years from now. I realized that night that my problem have gotten worse. I can't cum with condom if I get a little too drunk, and to keep the balance of drunkenness to cum was going to be a little bit problems this trip, sure I could keep it up but to finish. Day time fuck and all-nighter was the solution, fuck them like crazy in the night until they couldn't take it anymore, and finish in the morning round heheheh.

    Day2. 4 x4 I think we arrive around 17.00 and I think it's free entrance if you session before 18.00.

    Not sure but some of the girls tried to get a session before a time to save some money for us hehehe.

    The quality was ok, I remember my only Rio trip (before this) years ago it was much better, but still some hot ones. Ended up session with a big ass morena that preformed really god, but I wouldn't repeat. They have something for everyone, extreme muscular to slimmer types, well worth a visit anyway.

    Back to mabs and a couple of drinks, still early and the quality were low so we walked up to Barbs.

    Some new faces but the mulatta from the day before was all over me and I didn't give me a chance to interview new prospects, so we left, back to mabs.

    Mabs after 24.00, I don't understand the complaints about that place. If we cut the worst bottom 25-35% (depending on day) the quality is not bad there. Maybe we were lucky or it's just my preferences but there are some really hot ones popping in and working the crowd late night, some nights more, other less but always when we were there it was some new hot faces in all shape and sizes.

    Late this night it was a slim model body (not swim suit curvy), short hair, great smile and probably 1,8 m in heels (1,7+m without) that got my attention. Funny girl, I got the vibe that she would be god, and she was. Insane fuck that night that definitely will go in my memoirs, my body the day after felt like I had been to the gym for the first time in 10 years and overwork. She woke me up early, couldn't sleep, I was snoring to loud and she had a meeting for something early that day. Got here phone info and she wanted to meet up in a day or 2 after she finished here things back home (lived 1-1,5 h outside Rio) and that was not a problem for me, I could had done that one all the trip.

    Day 3. Took me most of that day to recover from the night before. Late dinner and drinking at mabs, they have decent food there and it's a fun place to sit at watch the world go by. We figured out that the talent would get better later so we went up to barbs to kill a little time and to see if there was something new there. My wingman ended up with the same girl from first night and my mulatta was all over me again, and I did my best to avoid her. I manage to keep other company at the table but she was around all the time like a shark ready to attack, followed me out smoking and. I am just too nice to tell them f off in a hash way. When she did here show I manage to get a short cut colored hair girl with a huge smile to the table that I checked out earlier. Nice bob job, not that big bum, MILF, funny in a little freaky way that gave me the god vibe.

    Problems with having a wingman. We didn't plan to take any girl from there so the price for the first night (800, to high), ah well he took that bite again. And when someone make a deal, it's hard to get other girls to settle for less. If you're out with a wing man, make a plan what to pay before you go and stick with it. I am sure that you get barbs girls for 5-600 a night if you stick with it and tell them you don't have more. The same goes for all the places where you need to negotiate the price and it doesn't matter if the girl is hot or not, If one settles for a price the other will follow, hot or not.

    Negotiations is still for me an important part where the final scanning take place, if it's fun I am god to go, but if it's a slightly bad mode creeping in, I dump here and it doesn't matter how god she is looking. I never had a god session with a girl where the price negotiations have been boring.

    This one wanted 1200, I told her wow! Are you that god and then she swallowed my finger to the root and licked my hand. Blablabla funny discussions. Later I told her 800 is my final (we already knew that was the price) I showed my pinky and told her I got a small one and I am finished in 3 min hehehe she said OK I got a big clit, you can suck on that the rest of the night when you're done so let's go. Hehehe. . 4 h PSE later after banging all over the apartment (except my wing man's room) she slap my face, hey all night doesn't mean that we should fuck all night. I need food now.

    Written here many times but I take it one more.

    Don't! Go out walking late night in the Copa area, dingy characters lurking everywhere, crack smokers and. Just don't walk around and check the area before stepping out from the cab. Not that I am scared but better safe than sorry.

    Anyway a freaky great session that also goes in my memoirs. We changed numbers for future meetings, definitely repeat worthy.

    Morning after I felt like I was run over by a truck or 2. , 2 crazy fuck sessions in 2 days is too much.

    Day 4. Later that day around 16.00. In search for Eden spa on I think 186 (searched in the shopping mall), but it was on Copa av. 183, the apartment building close the shopping mall, we ended up in.

    Rua Hilrio de Gouveia, 66 - sala 201. http://deliriooriental.com.br/ 300 are ok quality on the girls and I am pretty sure I did this one. http://espacoterapias.com.br/anuncio...ta=renata-euro The girls in the pages seems to work everywhere, so the homepage ads don't fit with reality, same as with Eden) Great curvy body big bum, but the bob job was so-so done.

    After shower she didn't waste any time on massage and went straight for a long BJ and a fuck session. All over the room, that was I my opinion too small to fuck in. I would repeat that if I had the chance. Not the hottest one but she did a great job and so fun to watch that curvy body bouncing around. Got a short sloppy massage after the session, shower and by byby.

    I think its 50-100 cheaper if you can avoid the barker outside, but he sits outside the entrance so it can be difficult. After that I was drained.

    We popped in our heads to a club called Cicciolina? Close to barbs a couple of times this trip and one time went in for a drink. Not much people there, the girls was so overly pushy so it was embarrassing, I suggest we leave that place empty, an absolutely no go place. Barb and senso are at least well managed and the girls are not so pushy + much better looking girls.

    Food and drink at mabs, the slim MB girls send mess and want to meet, the freaky barb sent a pic and wanted to double tag me with her friend and I just wanted to rest and sleep. Ohh well I am not that young anymore. Went to sleep and the day after off to SP.

  14. #14746

    Christmas to NYE

    Fellow friends.

    Contemplating a trip to Rio from Christmas to New Year. The flights are crazy expensive. The entire trip is all about mongering. I like MC. And had a crazy great time. 3 days 13 rounds 10 girls. I was able to afford the luxury and absolutely nothing nothing to complain. Had the best time ever.

    So during this season based on the flight cost it is very clear it is a peak holiday season for americans. Does it get difficult to get laid in MC due to crowd and being a catholic country do you think all these places will be closed and girls will leave to their home states?

  15. #14745
    Quote Originally Posted by Haven123  [View Original Post]
    Sperto, sorry was that Rio or SP? It's been almost 3 years since I was in Brazil last. And more than 15 years since I was in RIO last! LOL.

    Anyways, I will be arriving in Jan for 3 weeks. I will be in SP for a week and then I don't have any specific plans fo4 the remainder of my trip. But I have to return to SP for my return flight. I am particularly interested in the smaller towns and cities. Maybe in Minas or Parana. I sent you a PM and maybe you can take a look at it??

    Thanks, Sperto.
    Hi,

    That was Rio de Janeiro.
    I've answered your PM.
    Have fun!

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