FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Pistons]

I was here the night of 31 December. I am not a fan of FFK anyway I liked to try.

There was a ratio of 1 girls for 10 customers and they were not really happy to work within the FKK during last day of the year. Moreover the quality of girls was so poor. Some of them had a standing right for partytreff. It was like gay club were it was possible to see only bears moving around different rooms. No tracks of women.

Absolutely never again.

Haha, why would you go there on that night?

[European Man]

I was here the night of 31 December. I am not a fan of FFK anyway I liked to try.

There was a ratio of 1 girls for 10 customers and they were not really happy to work within the FKK during last day of the year. Moreover the quality of girls was so poor. Some of them had a standing right for partytreff. It was like gay club were it was possible to see only bears moving around different rooms. No tracks of women.

Absolutely never again.

[Pistons]

Why should I care? I don't. If the girl is pretty and give good service she could be from Mars and I wouldn't care.

HB.

Yes, that is our take on it. Question is how they see it. .

[Sirioja]

Why should I care? I don't. If the girl is pretty and give good service she could be from Mars and I wouldn't care.

HB.

I agree and for my tastes, some Romanian are the best sensual women, even some who are only about 20.

[Optimist]

PL and Pistons and HB. I have done a reply under the FKK Lounge section.

[Hessen Bub]

How do we know which girls are gypsies?

Why should I care? I don't. If the girl is pretty and give good service she could be from Mars and I wouldn't care.

HB.

[Pistons]

Should really stop calling them 'gypsies'. It is a derogatory ethnic slur not helping anything...

Some may call them non-europeans based on old customs and their part indian past. But if take a genetic sample from a group of them you'll be certain to find just as much european blood in them as most other balkan peoples... Because it is probably widespread for centuries that some of their girls have had local boyfriends who made them pregnant Which is why they 'look' european...

And probably more than in or just as much as in greeks who once came from egypt... or other peoples in the region who mixed with turks...

[Ararat]

Expect that the vast majority of the Romanian girls in the clubs are gypsies. Expect that none of the Romanian girls you meet in the workplace are gypsies.

Expect that the vast majority of the girls in clubs like manele (whether gypsy or not). Expect that the vast majority of girls you meet in the workplace hate manele.

[PussyLiccker]

There are more gypsies in clubs than is obvious. They don't all have the obvious physical characteristics. I never find a girl reluctant to admit being a gypsy, but I only ask them after a session is almost over.

The discussion of whether she is gypsy or not ever comes up as I'm not interested enough to find out. It comes up when talking with some guys, and some guys will say so and so is gypsy or whatever. Out of how many Ro girls would you say were gypsies? Which clubs do you meet them the most? Are there any distinguishing characteristics that are more common?

The girl that I've met that told me she was Gypsy just outright told me and showed me pictures of her outfits on her phone. That was before the session when talking outside the room. Apparently, she seemed to be proud of it. I was just attracted to her as she was pretty, and she just wanted to show off the pictures. This was contrary to what I would have expected with negative connotations regarding Gypsies.

Is there a link between Manele and gypsy Ro(I know the genre is performed by gypsies)? Somebody told me Manele is just popular among youths in Ro, and I have read that it's not a genra just for Gypsies, but a popular genre in Ro(More in the 90's?). Although I read that Ro is trying to unpopularize the genre due to it's unsophistication. I have met Ro that get's into Manele at various clubs. Also, those that hate it, and prefer house or hiphop.

[Pistons]

It's on the same lines as a job in the service industry. They tell their clients what they think they want to hear. Why should that be surprising? They will soon realize, there are men that come in for the experience beyond just suck and fuck, and therefore they learn to provide. Lies(or a different truth), whatever, etc. We've all heard very similar stuff from girls that are commonly said I'm sure.

True, which is why alot of people in the service industry call themselves prostitutes as well.

In sales there are lots of books to overcome this idea of lying mentally. Basically by suppression... (this is also probably why alot of sales people attend FKK's and brothels in general too)

The suppression is in a sense inhumane, and as one of you also mentionned here, it causes some people to move over to scams or crime. Just basic poverty, and if the group you live in stay poor for too long, they loose hope collectively.

[Sirioja]

Blond, silicon, Keira may have good reasons not to say where she is really from, about people around her life.

There are many lovely gypsie girls in FKK like Helli. Romanian girls often lie about where they are from, because too numerous in FKK and they know some men don t like them or don t trust them.

Just back from 3 days in Hamburg where only a very few Romanian girls among many German or Polish, but my dreamed girl was a smiling, friendly, slim, lovely, sweet brunette and I will miss Nicole from the black sea and how she looked at me in the eyes, when kissing for a long time. Romanian girls are the most sensual with Russian and Latvian, compare to average German or polish.

[McAdonis]

Are you guys really meeting lots of girls in (non-Palace) FKKs who are trying to scam you?

Not really me personally. Girls confess things to me though.

Let's say there is a really naive desperate 40 year old virgin customer who has a life savings of 50 K EUR. If the WG pretends to have feelings and knows that her customer bites hook, line and sinker, I think its disingenuous for her to do 500 hours of room time to drain his life savings. She's lying in order to close her sale. In other words, under the pretense that they are in love.

[McAdonis]

My personal experience of three visits to Romania, but not Bucuresti, is of overwhelming honesty, politeness and helpfulness, even in the poorest gypsy villages.

I never find a girl reluctant to admit being a gypsy, but I only ask them after a session is almost over.

I actually offered to buy drinks for the Romanian gentlemen that helped me. They refused.

Sometimes girls never come clean. Keira at Sharks I've sessioned more than once. She sticks to her story about being Slovakian. She's overheard speaking Balkan languages all the time. Maybe she's telling the truth and is just linguistically gifted.

[UltraHappy]

I don't know where you guys are finding all these scammers in the clubs. I, for one, choose my girl and go to the room with her. With few exceptions, she gives me good service (indeed, I would say great service more than 66% of the time). Then I pay her.

Then later, I often ask her to go to the room with me again. We have a great time. And, I pay her. Then, I do this with another girl with the same result.

The number of times that girls have attempted to "scam" me in the club are so few that I barely remember them. Now if you guys are talking about your visits to Palace, I could understand where you are coming from.

Because most girls perceive me as a nice guy who respects them, they actually feel compelled to be honest with me. They could be lying to me and trying to trick me and tell me that they love me, etc to try to trick me into giving them more money or by telling me sob stories, but to my surprise, none of my girls actually do this. I think also that the whole lying / scamming thing is perceived as too much work for most of the girls. They'd rather just do their job and get paid for services rendered -- much easier and less stress. In my entire FKK career, which granted hasn't been as long as many of the other members here, I would guess that only two girls have given me sob stories and tried to elicit extra money out of me for something other than services rendered.

Sometimes I think it would be nice for me if the girls lied to me more and tried to trick me into thinking they have feelings for me. That way, I could live out my fantasies easier. Then again, that would have been easier for the girls when I was getting started in the whole FKK scene. Now, this would be much harder for the girls to pull off now that I am a little bit wiser than at the beginning.

Actually I met one nice girl at Oase who would lie to me and say all kinds of nice things to me. She was an excellent actress. I told her how much I appreciated her lying to me and asked to continue lying to me. Unfortunately, she left Oase a couple months ago. Perhaps I will get lucky and meet another good actress. To be clear though, she did not try to scam me by lying to me -- she was just trying to provide good service / fantasy.

As for my travels in Romania itself, my only run-ins with Gypsies were at the restaurants with open outside eating areas. The Gypsies would come around with their bags of merchandise and try to sell us stuff. We would look at their stuff and thank them for taking the time to show us their merchandise and then, they'd be off. Perhaps I have not travelled extensively enough in Romania to encounter the troublesome Gypsies you are referring to. I totally get what you are saying about the open discrimination against Gypsies in Romania by the Romanians though. That is definitely without a doubt apparent and obvious.

Are you guys really meeting lots of girls in (non-Palace) FKKs who are trying to scam you?

[Optimist]

Scamming is so rampant in RO, I believe ROs develop a natural distrust. I was in Bucharest main train station last year trying to buy an international train ticket. This middle-aged gentleman and his son were gracious enough to help translate for me with the sales lady. During this transaction, a 70-year old white RO beggar lady interrupted the four of us crying, with a sob story. None of the three ROs even acknowledged her presence.

Scams happen everywhere of course. Nigeria, Asia etc.

Number of gypsies in mainstream FKKs is hard to say. I assume most will not admit it if they can pass off as a non-gypsy.

I was making smalltalk with young ROs in pubs along Strada Selari in Old Town Bucharest. Small sample size that was limited to "big city people" but seems most ROs absolutley HATE gypsies and they have no notion of political correctness about it. Madonna was greeted with chorus of boos once when she tried to defend gypsies. Never heard a single Manele song in any pub entire time BTW. Musical taste is usually acquired via social circles--just saying.

My personal experience of three visits to Romania, but not Bucuresti, is of overwhelming honesty, politeness and helpfulness, even in the poorest gypsy villages.

As you say, other Romanians hate gypsies, but I think that given the scale of corruption amongst the country's elite and for example, local police, the hate for gypsies is irrational. It's just that some gypsies flaunt their dubious wealth by building huge houses with for example Euro signs on top, and also gypsy crime tends to be street level and therefore obvious. All societies love having a marginalised group to hate if they can get away with it.

Yes, if one says one likes manele, one is immediately an outcast.

There are more gypsies in clubs than is obvious. They don't all have the obvious physical characteristics. I never find a girl reluctant to admit being a gypsy, but I only ask them after a session is almost over.

Sorry to add to the trend for the Oase thread to be a general discussion thread.