Medellin Reports

[Mongerer88]

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com...gainst-law.htm

I have never read anything other than the federal law making it a US Criminal violation for an American to obtain sex with a minor overseas, and the military policy prohibiting servicemen from obtaining commercial sex while on "R&R"
This article seems to confirm it.

Savepros seemed to make a distinction regarding prostitution being legal in the foreign country. I don't think that matters. If it is illegal in the foreign country, the foreign country can prosecute. But the U.S. could only prosecute it the lady were underaged, from my understanding, regardless of the law in the foreign country.

The Swedes did in fact pass a law that has the effect you described for its citizens.

I am not so sure.

However I have come across research in the past which indicates that it is illegal for americans to travel to a foreign country with the intent on procuring sexual services for money. I think it was on one of the Govt websites. Some mongers have mentioned that it implies only sex with minors but when I read the comment it seemed to be all inclusive.

Maybe someone can find this information and post it from a reliable source? Unfortunately I have to go to bed within the next 3 o minutes. I have a 5 am wake up call.

[The Cane]

The article mentions that US prosecutors arrived last week to try to identify the customers of Jake.

Well, that task should be easily accomplished given that Jake, having great respect for the law, most assuredly made and kept copies over the years of all of his clients' passport data pages LOL! Every last single one of them. After all, the law requires it LOLOLOL!

[Artisttyp]

It is not illegal for you as an American Citizen to engage in "legal-aged" prostitution in another country where it is already legal.

I am not so sure.

However I have come across research in the past which indicates that it is illegal for americans to travel to a foreign country with the intent on procuring sexual services for money. I think it was on one of the Govt websites. Some mongers have mentioned that it implies only sex with minors but when I read the comment it seemed to be all inclusive.

Maybe someone can find this information and post it from a reliable source? Unfortunately I have to go to bed within the next 3 o minutes. I have a 5 am wake up call.

[Knowledge]

Your "translation" omitted a point that throws your prediction into question. The American prosecutors, according to what you posted in Spanish, arrived in Medellin to identify clients of the suspect in order to prosecute them for crimes against minors.

US Genearl Attorney personnel arrived to Medellin in order to establish identity of all of Jake's clients in order to prosecute them in the States.

If I was a gringo (or gringo like foreigner) I would keep my ass away from any type of prostitution anywhere in Medellin for the next couple of months. You will soon see gringos being arrested downtown. Fair? I am not a policy maker I am just saying it will happen.

Fiscales de LOS Estados Unidos llegaron esta semana al pas para tratar de establecer la identidad de LOS clientes de Jay Harry Drivas, para procesarlos por crmenes sexuales contra menores.

[SavePros321]

If I was a gringo (or gringo like foreigner) I would keep my ass away from any type of prostitution anywhere in Medellin for the next couple of months. You will soon see gringos being arrested downtown. Fair? I am not a policy maker I am just saying it will happen.

I doubt it. They are not going to have a squad of "special police" going into Casas and dragging out gringos naked into the streets, lmao!

Some of you are letting your imaginations get the best of you. It is not illegal for you as an American Citizen to engage in "legal-aged" prostitution in another country where it is already legal.

[Blue Touch]

Jake had two operations- prostitution of regular girls and secret operation of minor girls. Yes, the US authority is looking for the customers for the latter.

Colombiajake.com, such was the website that, according to police, was used by tens of [CodeWord914], all coming from the United States, who paid millions of dollars for sexual services in Medellin.

The owner of the illegal business, Jay Harry Drivas, 53, was captured by police this week. The man known as 'Jake', was the head of a prostitution ring that victimized children between 12 and 14 years old and worked the facade of an office of tourism plans that promoted via the Internet.

"It was received like a king in the tolerance zone of downtown Medellin. There knew everyone says one of the officers who put him behind rejas- (.) At that point contacted many of the young people, especially girls, who offered to customers. If using drugs, it was easier for them to serve because they offered marijuana and coca. " (Read: Captured 'Jake', the gringo who led network of sexual exploitation).

In that area of ​8203;the capital of Antioquia misery abounds. The US says the police took advantage of the low level of schooling of the children, their low economic level and lack of parental care. While he earned in dollars they paid them a Pyrrhic sum for 'walks' with strangers that sometimes lasted up to a week.

General William René Salamanca, director of Protection and Special Services of Police, says crawling web pages that more frequent sexual predators was key to reach 'Jake'.

The man, born in Massachusetts, was installed in 2009 in the exclusive sector of El Poblado, Medellin. There lived a life full of luxury: ate in the best restaurants, buy branded clothes and driving a high-end car, always accompanied by beautiful women. (Also: So operated 'Jake', the gringo who led network of sexual exploitation).

"We identified six months ago on the web and begin to track," said the official.

The researchers had to resort to an undercover police, with good English, who contacted 'Jake' showing interest in the tour package offered. "At first, it failed twice in our attempt to contact you because we speak in Spanish, and although he speaks our language, tourism and denied any sexual activity. When we did in English, gained confidence and began trading "says the source. The alleged customer requested the services of two minors, and the US agreed.

Drivas traveled at least three times a year to the United States to promote their services and publicize their website. "In public places he accosted older men, who had been speaking of a world of adventure in Medellin. And he said that at the web address find the route.

Basically, he is driving two lines of prostitution. Of legal age, whose pictures and names had a list that was seized the day of his capture, he had more than 200 records. The other, more reserved, including the services of minors.

Customers 'Jake' traveled from cities like Cheyenne, Lincoln, Dallas and Atlanta and acquired one of the two 'package tours' offered, which always included the company of a woman.

"The hitched with images of the city, and videos that 'Jake' up to their website, which could see customers narrating their experiences in locations like Park Village, about how wonderful the city, good food and excellent attention of his host, "said one of the researchers.

'Jake' offered them to their VIP customers exclusive apartment for alternative nights. An inflatable jacuzzi became the most representative of the services offered by icon. "Indeed, the day he was captured, in that apartment, which was in arriendo- was in the jacuzzi with a girl of 12 years and was seized psychoactive substances, sexual pills and 33 million pesos in cash," says Salamanca.

Tour packages 'Jake' were handled in two ways, according to the customer's pocket.

One for $ 10,000 that included plane tickets, lodging and sightseeing around the city, plus the chaperone of your choice, which could choose in the catalog that appeared on their website. The sexual service was paid apart, depending on customer tastes.

The second package, for five thousand dollars, differed mainly at the level of the hotel.

US prosecutors arrived this week to the country to try to establish the identity of customers Jay Harry Drivas, to prosecute sex crimes against children. "In Colombia await you at least 20 years in prison for crimes related to induction to prostitution, trafficking and possession of psychoactive substances and sexual exploitation involving minors. But the United States also intends to take it to try him there, "says Salamanca.

The US passed its luxury stays Bellavista prison in Medellin, where he will undergo a psychiatric evaluation because from the moment of his capture has attempted suicide twice.

But that is not the only case of foreigners captured in Colombia and linked to sexual exploitation networks. So far this year as they captured four foreigners arrested for crimes such as child pornography, promotion of prostitution and pimping minor. Two of those who have fallen are Mexicans and two other Americans.

[Member #4398]

The article also mentions that Jake is being evaluated by a psychiatrist due to two suicide attempts. And also that he will get a minimum of 20 years in jail with the current charges, and the police infiltrated his operation by baiting him, posing as English speaking clients requesting minors and he took the bait. It also said that when they found him he was in his Jacuzzi with a 13 year old.

Interesting new Jake article.

http://www.eltiempo.com/politica/jus...ellin/16647157

The article mentions that US prosecutors arrived last week to try to identify the customers of Jake. Jake's customers have much more to worry about than their global entry passes. I feel for them. I'm sure many of his customers wanted nothing to do with girls too young yet they are probably now dragged into this guilty by association. Of course it would be hard to prove anything, but still.

[RedTibetan23]

Wall Street Journal content is restricted to subscribers. You will have to state the punchline here, if there is one.

Apologies for that. Cut-and-paste from the article below. Not sure I have a punchline, just sharing it appears that prison isn't new to him.

In 1995, stockbroker Jay Drivas sold an elderly Florida woman and her daughter $67,000 worth of notes backed by used-car loans to people with poor credit histories. What the woman and her daughter didn't know when they bought the notes was that Mr. Drivas had just been convicted of attempted sexual battery, a felony, and was awaiting the outcome of an appeal, according to the women's lawyer, Allan J. Fedor. "he was socking away the nuts for the winter," Mr. Fedor said. In March 1996, his appeal unsuccessful, Mr. Drivas entered prison, serving nine months of a 15-month sentence.

Mr. Fedor's clients, who didn't wish to be named, probably didn't ask Mr. Drivas, the stockbroker, if he had ever been charged with a felony, Mr. Fedor conceded. And had they looked into his past, they would have discovered that in 1994, Florida securities regulators barred him from holding a management job after learning of an NASD investigation into allegations he forged a branch manager's signature.

[SnowMan321]

Interesting new Jake article.

http://www.eltiempo.com/politica/jus...ellin/16647157

The article mentions that US prosecutors arrived last week to try to identify the customers of Jake. Jake's customers have much more to worry about than their global entry passes. I feel for them. I'm sure many of his customers wanted nothing to do with girls too young yet they are probably now dragged into this guilty by association. Of course it would be hard to prove anything, but still.

[Cursnoop]

I wholeheartedly agree.

First Cuba Dave in Costa Rica, now Colombia Jake in Colombia. Countries simply aren't going to allow foreigners to exploit them financially. They can make your crimes look so much bigger than they are in order to stack the charges up so high that you won't be afforded the opportunity to do it again.

As tempting as it may be to start a little gig getting paid for information, it just isn't worth it in the long run.

Enjoy your time there, leave and tell a few friends. Repeat.

I think the thing is Colombians don't send people to USA and other part of the world to promote prostitution while guys like Jake does that and they also be going to far by going to high schools and college to hand out prostitution employment flyers to girls.

[ColBoxer]

US Genearl Attorney personnel arrived to Medellin in order to establish identity of all of Jake's clients in order to prosecute them in the States.

If I was a gringo (or gringo like foreigner) I would keep my ass away from any type of prostitution anywhere in Medellin for the next couple of months. You will soon see gringos being arrested downtown. Fair? I am not a policy maker I am just saying it will happen.

Fiscales de LOS Estados Unidos llegaron esta semana al país para tratar de establecer la identidad de LOS clientes de Jay Harry Drivas, para procesarlos por crímenes sexuales contra menores.

[Knowledge]

Wall Street Journal content is restricted to subscribers. You will have to state the punchline here, if there is one.

I wrote something longer, but apparently got disconnected from the site in the middle of it so I don't think it'll post. My shorter version is this: see the name about 2/3 rds of the way into the article below:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB913232501391848000

There are a few other things you can find online which further tie in the name and the state it occurred in.

[Knowledge]

Robberies happen at other hotels too. Take reasonable precautions and you will have an enjoyable visit to the country.

No need to fear staying at the Mansion. Authorities have no problem with the way they run their business. They are legit. If you don't have a reservation, there is usually a waiting list so it will be difficult getting in on short notice. If you already have a reservation, definitely don't pass up that opportunity.

[Combo]

I wholeheartedly agree.

First Cuba Dave in Costa Rica, now Colombia Jake in Colombia. Countries simply aren't going to allow foreigners to exploit them financially. They can make your crimes look so much bigger than they are in order to stack the charges up so high that you won't be afforded the opportunity to do it again.

As tempting as it may be to start a little gig getting paid for information, it just isn't worth it in the long run.

Enjoy your time there, leave and tell a few friends. Repeat.

It's more than the financial gain. These guys were very open about what they were doing (even bragging about it). While prostitution is legal in many of these countries (and widely practiced by their own citizens), it is done discreetly. Their laws accept that people will do it, but it's also expected that it be somewhat discreet. Especially in a Strata 5 neighborhood like Poblado.

Cuba Dave and Jake were begging for the trouble that came their way.

[RedTibetan23]

I wrote something longer, but apparently got disconnected from the site in the middle of it so I don't think it'll post. My shorter version is this: see the name about 2/3 rds of the way into the article below:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB913232501391848000

There are a few other things you can find online which further tie in the name and the state it occurred in.

I think I forgot it on my re-post:

http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/...08/daily2.html