Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[Mr Enternational]

Pawned her phone? A girl just told me the only way I can contact her is via dating site messages because she pawned her phone. Of all her worldly possessions, surely her phone is the last thing she would pawn. Or borrow a friend's phone love, how are we supposed to arrange to meet so you can collect your pay check if you don't have access to a phone?

Are you brand new? They pawn phones all the time. I had a real girlfriend that I never gave any money to do the same. You can arrange a meet up on the dating site just as she told you. Communication is communication.

[Ceegee]

Pawned her phone? A girl just told me the only way I can contact her is via dating site messages because she pawned her phone. Of all her worldly possessions, surely her phone is the last thing she would pawn. Or borrow a friend's phone love, how are we supposed to arrange to meet so you can collect your pay check if you don't have access to a phone?

Figured it out. It's a scam, what a surprise. A different girl told me the same thing, but called me via Skype and showed me her tits on cam. Great tits. Of course she needed me to send her 1000 pesos now so she could get her phone back so we could meet.

So now any girl that doesn't have a phone gets instantly blocked. I got to see a great pair of tits for free though LOL.

[Ceegee]

Pawned her phone? A girl just told me the only way I can contact her is via dating site messages because she pawned her phone. Of all her worldly possessions, surely her phone is the last thing she would pawn. Or borrow a friend's phone love, how are we supposed to arrange to meet so you can collect your pay check if you don't have access to a phone?

[Ceegee]

You are only blackmailable if you are blackmailable. I use my regular page and have not had a problem. Only one problem was a pesky girl kept asking for money and I blocked her and she made up new FB pages to contact me. I just blocked those pages too.

If he is worried about it, it seems he might be blackmailable. Pinays keep asking for my FB, I just tell them I don't have it. Get a second phone, disposable sim, fake name, compartmentalize everything related to mongering so that when you leave, you are a ghost. That way you can contact them if you want to, but they cannot contact you. I've seen too many friends get this wrong and lose half of everything they own, including access to their kids.

[Dg8787]

So let me first mention that I am a newbie and learning the ropes. I will be arriving in Manila this month and have been using pinalove app to make some contacts. So I would get the girl's no and then chat on viber or WhatsApp or Line. Now I have been using my regular number for these chats, not sure how many know that on Facebook if you provide your number people can actually search with that. So I had two women do that and send me a friend request. Wooho! Well luckily their intention were not bad and I had to tell them that I can't add them as friends. One stopped communicating with me but the other and luckily the hotter one did not mind it. But can someone tell me that exposing ourselves can really lead to something like 'blackmailing' in the future? I have done a bit of mongering in Pattaya and added a girl on Facebook but never had any issues.

You are only blackmailable if you are blackmailable. I use my regular page and have not had a problem. Only one problem was a pesky girl kept asking for money and I blocked her and she made up new FB pages to contact me. I just blocked those pages too.

[Member #4558]

So let me first mention that I am a newbie and learning the ropes. I will be arriving in Manila this month and have been using pinalove app to make some contacts. So I would get the girl's no and then chat on viber or WhatsApp or Line. Now I have been using my regular number for these chats, not sure how many know that on Facebook if you provide your number people can actually search with that. So I had two women do that and send me a friend request. Wooho! Well luckily their intention were not bad and I had to tell them that I can't add them as friends. One stopped communicating with me but the other and luckily the hotter one did not mind it. But can someone tell me that exposing ourselves can really lead to something like 'blackmailing' in the future? I have done a bit of mongering in Pattaya and added a girl on Facebook but never had any issues.

Firstly I hope for Gods sake you have created yourself with a fake FB account? If you use an account of origin aka one with your personal real info and real friends / family on, well, I don't know about blackmailing, but you could at least get some trouble explaining why a naughty pinay is posting shit about you (if you from some reasons don't come to one agreement of sorts). Been there done that many years ago. I am wiser now. With my new fake FB I didn't have any issues at all. But the account can not in anyway be connected with your original account. Even having the same pic in the two or more accounts will tip the ladies off in there "friends suggestion" you might have more than one account and depending on your safety level / privacy settings they could maybe do some shit to you. But if you behave and don't get yourself enemies you will most likely be fine. Anyway a fake FB is the way to go as at least I don't want my real world colliding with my monger world.

So create yourself a second new life, fill it up with pinays (just search for "pinay dating" in FB). If you have a pic of yourself use it and preferably from you in Phils somewhere to actually prove you have been here before. It tends to help with girls accepting your request. Good luck.

[BrainDrain]

Bit of a washout really! I don't really have the time to scroll through endless profiles or wait until somebody walks by, as I'm here to work, not play. Clearly I need to go to a more guaranteed location like FL168, EDSA FC, Angeles, MBC perhaps (or is it LA Cafe. Can't remember). Makati and P Burgos is closest but I don't have the money for that either. Leaning towards combining Divisoria (for shopping) and MBC / LAC at the weekend, both a good hour from here and both sort of close to each other so hit two birds with one stone.

Which part of Manila are you in? I think you are over engineering something.

I think you are right to turn down the $100 massage.

Install WeChat and use a Philippines number. Use Nearby to find females in your local area.

Suggest less pressure on the sure thing commitment prior to meeting. Even if you get a massage only, meet the girl, ask her if she has friends that are looking for a cash. They will know what you mean. More fun than spending the night in manila alone and frustrated. Few pinay will confirm sex on the chat, but give them a bedroom, low light, a nice attitude and a naked cock and they seem to work it out.

By the way, which area of Manila are you in?

BD.

[Drukyul2000]

Planning on my first trip to asia (phillipines). RTFF and Tried to sign up for DIA from India and get a message saying not available in this country. Anyone else run into this?

I have been to central and south america few times and have used FB and RL mostly.

You can't sign in from India but will be able to once you are in Philippines. Maybe I am a little late but I hope this helps, that's the way DIA works, you can also try pinalove app, you can use it from anywhere like any other app.

[Drukyul2000]

Members, I am often PM'd me asking advice about going on dating sites without revealing their face.

Recently I was asked about using fake pic on DIA.

Lets share the collective wisdom rather than keep it private?

My advice is if you can't post a pic of yourself then don't go on dating sites.

Remember the disappointment of contacting that hot chick who turned out to be a fake / scammer?

Public dating sites are very high risk, private dating sites less so but the risk is still there.

General advice on OPSEC: assume all websites (including this one) are compromised & your detail will be posted online at some point...

So let me first mention that I am a newbie and learning the ropes. I will be arriving in Manila this month and have been using pinalove app to make some contacts. So I would get the girl's no and then chat on viber or WhatsApp or Line. Now I have been using my regular number for these chats, not sure how many know that on Facebook if you provide your number people can actually search with that. So I had two women do that and send me a friend request. Wooho! Well luckily their intention were not bad and I had to tell them that I can't add them as friends. One stopped communicating with me but the other and luckily the hotter one did not mind it. But can someone tell me that exposing ourselves can really lead to something like 'blackmailing' in the future? I have done a bit of mongering in Pattaya and added a girl on Facebook but never had any issues.

[Simmer]

First off my experiences are probably not typical. Shy bloke, cautious, in the 35-45 range, a tad overweight but not gross, sun roof but remaining hair kept at #2/#3. In all these my profile clearly stated I wanted company in the evenings and maybe more, and only here for 2 weeks (ie no LTR).

I setup a Mingle2 account nearly a month before coming to the Philippines. Bad idea: do it much closer to the time. Reactivated it when I got here but didn't upload a picture for fear of others finding it. Bad idea (probably). No hits anyway.

I mentioned this one earlier on another subforum but repeating and completing the story here. Set up Tinder yesterday. Spent something like 3 hours swiping (and another hour today). Got three hits. First was a mistake, swiped the wrong way, though she wasn't that bad. Conversation kind of died naturally but I killed it completely by unmatching. Second girl came out after introductions with "want sexy massage". Carefully asked if she needed financial help for her "studies", she admitted it right away. Further on wanted $100 and I balked at that. Politely left it at that until today. Girl #3 denied wanting financial assistance and wanted to meet up last night but I declined on the account of lateness and tiredness. Agreed to come over tonight. By lunchtime today she'd disappeared from my matches. No final message. Went back to girl #2 and offered 1500 PHP and a meal. She countered with 2 k. Ok with that. Clarified full sex but she then responded that "she is nice girl, doesn't do that". Guess she really was only offering a $100 massage. Bloody hell, even in the US I'm led to believe that AMPS will do the same for less (more for FS mind). Dismissed her. Yes, dinner would have been nice, but sod the rest. Then girl #3 reappeared in my contacts. Sent her a message again but no reply. Two days and far too long on Tinder and no results!

Badoo was next. It wanted a large amount of Facebook data and I was somewhat nervous of what came up in my Badoo profile (Tinder too but that was easier to tame). Took the chickenshit route and backed out, deleting the app from Facebook too. Next time learn the lesson others have said here: set up a new FB account for these websites.

Next, not online experiences, but with slightly blue balls I went out shopping in BGC High Street. Firstly a bar / restaurant area not on the high street but the next road over. Possible potential here but quiet at 7 pm. Slowly walked along the high street, checking out possible places where FLs might hang out. Trouble is, BGC High Street is a bit scattergun approach for bars and restaurants, mostly regular stores interspersed with the occasional bar, so not many clusters. Closer to Market! Market! There is an area with a small cluster so here I sat outside checking out the people walking past, hoping that some would make eye contact. Well, some did, but either 50+ or grossly overweight. Plenty of people but mostly couples, people finishing work, or families.

Bit of a washout really! I don't really have the time to scroll through endless profiles or wait until somebody walks by, as I'm here to work, not play. Clearly I need to go to a more guaranteed location like FL168, EDSA FC, Angeles, MBC perhaps (or is it LA Cafe. Can't remember). Makati and P Burgos is closest but I don't have the money for that either. Leaning towards combining Divisoria (for shopping) and MBC / LAC at the weekend, both a good hour from here and both sort of close to each other so hit two birds with one stone.

[Red Kilt]

Just to say that all our experiences are anecdotal only and we should be very very cautious in making general assumptions.

W's statement highlighted above should be stressed over and over to all mongers venturing into chat rooms or dating sites after having read about other guys' exploits.

I am loathe to describe "blow-by-blow" accounts of experiences because when I do I get PMs from guys telling me they followed my steps and either nothing happened or something completely different transpired.

Remember, YMMV is mostly "Your mileage will (almost certainly) vary".

[Wolvenvacht]

I have some experience in both your mentioned countries and with girls from the middle / upper socioeconomic brackets. What I find dealing with these girls are that they are pretty much the same. They are well educated, comes from "do well" backgrounds or they fought and worked their way up themselves. In fact I see very little difference between Thai / Phil (ex from the obvious, English ability).

They despite everything involving mongering so you better stand out as you do the same (white lies will of course do). So while dealing with ladies of such you better not invite her to Sukhumvit Soi 11 or even worse Soi 4 (Nana play grounds)

As all generalizations go, this is right and wrong at the same time.

My previous Thai GF is a master teacher, now doing the last year of her PhD. My present Thai GF still lives at home, takes care of her parents and works in a government hospital. They are definitely middle class at least and "good" girls.

Never ever did I hear them speak badly about girls that choose to work in the sex trade and both know very well I will use such services when I'm not with them. My present GF even accompanied me for a visit to Soi Cowboy and commented on the visual quality of the workers there. I think I was more embarassed than her by her candid comments. Last year I sprained my back and she send me to a massage shop in Chiang Rai (where she lives) that definitely offered happy endings. As I was really only there for a good back massage, I choose an old massage lady and kept on my boxer shorts, so "nothing happened" (other than she unbloicked by back). Back in the hotel my GF was most surprised I did not choose some young masseuse and had her "finish" me. Given that my back was OK again, the GF then proceeded to give me the happy ending I should have taken in the massage shop, murmuring all the time "not normal you take old lady".

Just to say that all our experiences are anecdotal only and whe should be very very cautious in making general assumptions.

[Member #4558]

Guys are always saying shit like this and I find it to be very far from the truth. How many women have you taken to these places?What has been your experience with having normal chicks around the scene? Or are you not speaking from experience, but from what you feel or think would result?

Well congratulation on your great results. We obviously have different experience or we aren't talking about the same level of girls. No intention making this a pissing contest and I leave it at that you have your experience and I have mine. I have of course made enough errors to know exactly what I talk about (through my eyes of course and adjusted accordingly). Girls I meet as described in previous post I of course never meet in places dedicated for redlight activities. I am not such a huge fan of those places / areas myself but have no trouble staying close or in one if I am doing FL or Datingsite hunts (often the same but in different wrappings) myself and that's the main point of a trip / stay. Those girls are not so area sensitive and / or I call the shots on where to meet since I will pay anyway. For the other tier girls I have of course taken in some info prior to meetings and decided its a bad idea to meet them at such places as described. Maybe some wouldn't care, I will never find out.

[Mr Enternational]

So while dealing with ladies of such you better not invite her to Sukhumvit Soi 11 or even worse Soi 4 (Nana play grounds) or for Manila obviously EDSA, Burgos and FL's hunting grounds are off limits.

Guys are always saying shit like this and I find it to be very far from the truth. How many women have you taken to these places? I have taken many and I must say that none of them have ever given a rat's ass. The only place I have ever stayed in Bangkok is on Soi 4. Nana Hotel, Ibis, and Grand Suk. So every regular chick that I know in Bangkok has had to visit me at those places and they went to the Soi 11 disco with me.

I have lived in Pattaya for 6 years and last night my normal girl from Laem Chabang drove here after work to stay with me and we went out to eat on Soi 7. All she said was she had never been on the street before because all she knows about Pattaya is Central Festival, Royal Garden, and The Avenue malls. I teased her about going to hang out and have drinks with one of the ladyboys who was standing over at one of the bars. I have taken other normal chicks who visit me from Bangkok to Soi 6 when Skeeter owned Sky Bar, as well as the discos on Walking Street. (Hell. Even my mom, dad, stepmom, and aunts have been to the Walking Street discos with me.).

For 2 trips in a row to Manila my girl who works at the supreme court has been to eat with me at LA Cafe.

I have done the same in Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, Aruba, and Peru. I even took one of my Colombian chicks to a house of ill repute and to my surprise she said she wanted to watch me fuck one of the chicks.

What has been your experience with having normal chicks around the scene? Or are you not speaking from experience, but from what you feel or think would result?

[Member #4558]

Perhaps it isn't possible because of how and where you are meeting them? My experience is deep in Thailand and very light on PI. But if you had a job here in PI and met a middle class or upper, middle class woman in a business context, would it be different? Or is it likely that the IT director of a bank also has a BF who is pimping her out?

I have some experience in both your mentioned countries and with girls from the middle / upper socioeconomic brackets. What I find dealing with these girls are that they are pretty much the same. They are well educated, comes from "do well" backgrounds or they fought and worked their way up themselves. In fact I see very little difference between Thai / Phil (ex from the obvious, English ability).

They despite everything involving mongering so you better stand out as you do the same (white lies will of course do). So while dealing with ladies of such you better not invite her to Sukhumvit Soi 11 or even worse Soi 4 (Nana play grounds) or for Manila obviously EDSA, Burgos and FL's hunting grounds are off limits. On a personal level its been quite easy to me as I am not very much into bars (girl bars, go go etc etc). I am more a dating site man but you will in most cases not find these girls in dating sites. For this type of hunting I find BKK's Thong Lor area the best. In Phils Makati / Ortigas / BGC will do (even if they have red light areas in Makati it is easy to bypass as Hi so hotels infarct are located a tad outside the seedy nightlife areas). Even if seedy nightlife and Hi so living is mixed in parts of Makati it is easy to excuse yourself around the issue. The simple answer to your question on where to meet girls like this would be, go to places where they go. If you are in possession of some game they can be had because they get horny too. Many of them choose to live alone as they postpone family and children until they have established themselves with careers. If you have those features in place, you go where they go and you have some game, your worst job will be to convince them you are not a monger. If you really are a monger then you lie, lie and lie.

Everything is of course easier if you have native contacts who can introduce you as a decent fellow (female contact by far the best). When you become a part of a loop the ball starts spinning until the loop will die from natural courses. I call it "wear and tear" as you will only be able to do one or two girls from the same loop before you need to change. I guess this could go for almost all girls in the world but I had no trouble bringing them in for ONS. Of course I have failed as well but when you hunt outside the hooker environment that's just part of the game. When you succeed its rewarding and gives you a feeling being normal.