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[Fastpiston]

Maybe I should have written I tip for performance. A GFE with an all night stay gets 1000 P. The 1500 P tip I paid was for a real beauty and the best sex I had all week. I plan on spending a few days with her on my next visit.

I am sure you are aware that some of those YOUTUBE videos are another way of getting some poor sensitive guy to send money. I know girls that are on several dating websites and a video trolling for money.

No. Have a look at the podcasts carefully. There are some great podcasts where the girls give detailed insight into how the vast majority of bar girls think both inside and outside the bar. How they size up, manipulate and flatter the naive. In the podcasts I am referring to, the girls did not give any contact details of themselves personally, so obviously not asking for money. Having mongering for many decades allover Asia, I did notice that in every marketplace where western tourists overpay, the prices eventually rose to a level that squeezed out all except the overgenerous. Basic economics: "All Sellers will raise prices to what the Buyers will bear". I had a great sincere talk with a Bangkok girl recently who was complaining how she now gets so few clients. She did not realize she was getting greedy and pricing herself out of the market. I suggested she hangs around the 5 star hotels micro market instead of where she was currently doing her business. Another point, looking at the Burgos thread, I was surprised to observe that AC prices on the AC thread are now not that far off Burgos thread prices.

[Azhiker54]

Thanks Dg. All the chat about ruining it for other punters by tipping more than they think is proper in my opinion does not really make sense. We all have heard / read about Koreans tipping 3 to 4 k and taking over the market. I have not met 1 girl that expected that much money for a tip. So just tip what you feel is the right amount for you.

I appreciate all the information as to how the girls think, that it is all about the money and they have boyfriends. Keep in mind that each of us can have a different experience being in AC.

I am certain many punters have more time in AC than I do. However, after 13 years, 46 visits and 300+ girls I have a pretty good idea what's up. I have visited AC, Manila, Tagaytay, Subic, Leyte, Cebu, Davao, Boracay and Palawan. I have gotten to know pinays quite well. I have sent girls to finish high school to get a job outside the bars, opened sari sari's, fixed their teeth, paid for needed doctor and dentist visits. Even paid the doctor for a mothers appendectomy. In the 'Province' you paid the $400 or she dies.

So whether I helped a girl or just BF'd her 1 night, we both had a great time.

So everyone should enjoy all that AC has to offer and spend what you can afford. A good time can be had by all.

I absolutely agree with you sir. I am compared to you a newbie. I have been going to AC for 2 yrs now, about 2-3 times a yr. I have BF'ed girls, met them on CL, even dated one for about a year. The Filipinos are sweethearts, but can be possessive. I actually am going to AC in two weeks, and have picked up a date on on of the dating sites. We will see how this works out. Thanks sir for your great posts.

[AsianLover2]

I am sure AL2 knows what he is doing. AL2 is a veteran of AC.

Thanks Dg. All the chat about ruining it for other punters by tipping more than they think is proper in my opinion does not really make sense. We all have heard / read about Koreans tipping 3 to 4 k and taking over the market. I have not met 1 girl that expected that much money for a tip. So just tip what you feel is the right amount for you.

I appreciate all the information as to how the girls think, that it is all about the money and they have boyfriends. Keep in mind that each of us can have a different experience being in AC.

I am certain many punters have more time in AC than I do. However, after 13 years, 46 visits and 300+ girls I have a pretty good idea what's up. I have visited AC, Manila, Tagaytay, Subic, Leyte, Cebu, Davao, Boracay and Palawan. I have gotten to know pinays quite well. I have sent girls to finish high school to get a job outside the bars, opened sari sari's, fixed their teeth, paid for needed doctor and dentist visits. Even paid the doctor for a mothers appendectomy. In the 'Province' you paid the $400 or she dies.

So whether I helped a girl or just BF'd her 1 night, we both had a great time.

So everyone should enjoy all that AC has to offer and spend what you can afford. A good time can be had by all.

[GoodEnough]

I know what you mean. I get that same thing and I don't tip at all.

Funny for me to read this as every friend I have in Angeles tips between Php2,000-3,000 based on performance and longevity.

GE.

[Mr Enternational]

Just my opinion, but I truly think you are overtipping. Sure, its great to have GFE, but I get that and often tip 500 p and never more than that. They ALWAYS WANTED ME AGAIN.

I know what you mean. I get that same thing and I don't tip at all.

[Socker]

Maybe I should have mentioned I tip for performance. GFE earns the 1000 P tip. Moreover, I have had many girls meet me outside the clubs for free. I treat the girls I am with like a girlfriend. $82 for an all night date with a beautiful Pinay for me is hardly overspending. I can remember paying 500 P BF's. And I was still 'handsome' then! LOL.

However, Now I am willing to pay the going rate for a girl that looks good to me.

But I understand everyone has a budget.

I was just there in AC and when I took hotties from Perimeter bars they weren't happy w / 500 pesos. So if that's the case why go there?

Tipping a 1000 pesos is making it difficult for the other mongers. I don't want to tip 1000 pesos but when others do it I am pressured to do it too.

It doesn't matter what makes you (the monger) feel good. It matters what is best for everyone. That's what's important.

If you want to spoil AC than tip 1000 pesos to the BGs. The BG boyfriends thank you kindly but I don't.

[Dg8787]

Just my opinion, but I truly think you are overtipping. Sure, its great to have GFE, but I get that and often tip 500 p and never more than that. They ALWAYS WANTED ME AGAIN. Remember its just not the tips they like, but the main factor is you are also good to the girls, giving them the BFE= BoyFriendEffect. They have already made enough money (based on PI wage scale) from the BF alone that will keep them happy for awhile.

--IMO.

Cheers.

I am sure AL2 knows what he is doing. AL2 is a veteran of AC.

[NapaSlapper]

Just my opinion, but I truly think you are overtipping. Sure, its great to have GFE, but I get that and often tip 500 p and never more than that. They ALWAYS WANTED ME AGAIN. Remember its just not the tips they like, but the main factor is you are also good to the girls, giving them the BFE= BoyFriendEffect. They have already made enough money (based on PI wage scale) from the BF alone that will keep them happy for awhile.

--IMO.

Cheers.

Depends what type of girls one is happy to barfine.

What I find is that the better looking girls that have multiple offers of being barfined do not give a shit about, GFE, BFE or any other experience, they are in the business to make as much money as possible in the shortest amount of time.

Ever wondered why almost all pretty Angeles girls that are willing to barfine insist on short time only, usually 1 quick pop, well its to get back to the bar and get the next punters money.

Expecting girls young enough to be most punters great granddaughter to actually like them or want to spend any more time than is absolutely necessary to secure the pesos is dreaming at best.

Girls that have no chance of anyone buying them high commission lady drinks and might only get asked to barfine by a very few per month will generally stay long time and try to play the I really like you card in the hope of the punter keeping her multiple days or at worst at least giving a tip IMHO.

[Freezone]

Maybe I should have written I tip for performance. A GFE with an all night stay gets 1000 P. The 1500 P tip I paid was for a real beauty and the best sex I had all week. I plan on spending a few days with her on my next visit.

I am sure you are aware that some of those YOUTUBE videos are another way of getting some poor sensitive guy to send money. I know girls that are on several dating websites and a video trolling for money.

Just my opinion, but I truly think you are overtipping. Sure, its great to have GFE, but I get that and often tip 500 p and never more than that. They ALWAYS WANTED ME AGAIN. Remember its just not the tips they like, but the main factor is you are also good to the girls, giving them the BFE= BoyFriendEffect. They have already made enough money (based on PI wage scale) from the BF alone that will keep them happy for awhile.

--IMO.

Cheers.

[NapaSlapper]

Good summary. I am sure paying 3000 P makes you a nice handsome guy. A recent posting by another referred to giving 1000 P tips. There are bargirls giving really open sincere podcasts on their lives as bargirls on Youtube. Although there are exceptions, do not lose sight that money really does make one very handsome and nice!!

Have to fully agree with you Fastpiston.

Funny how some guys on monger boards have an ego so large that they lose sight that none of them could get laid by a prostitute without large payment.

They call prostitutes, dates, girlfriends, they claim she genuinely likes me, she calls me handsome, she cuddles me, she tells me I'm a great lover, she tells her friends how great I am.

Some even want this board to believe prostitutes give them totally free sex because of how handsome / great they are.

Learning to speak / understand the local language would have the same fellows jumping off the 14 floor if they could understand what is really being said by these girls to friends about them.

As you have pointed out many prostitutes talking frankly about their punters on line and it is not at all kind LOL.

[AsianLover2]

Good summary. I am sure paying 3000 P makes you a nice handsome guy. A recent posting by another referred to giving 1000 P tips. There are bargirls giving really open sincere podcasts on their lives as bargirls on Youtube. Although there are exceptions, do not lose sight that money really does make one very handsome and nice!!

Maybe I should have written I tip for performance. A GFE with an all night stay gets 1000 P. The 1500 P tip I paid was for a real beauty and the best sex I had all week. I plan on spending a few days with her on my next visit.

I am sure you are aware that some of those YOUTUBE videos are another way of getting some poor sensitive guy to send money. I know girls that are on several dating websites and a video trolling for money.

[AsianLover2]

AL2,

Just to clarify a point on your observations. You said 2 girls willing to go BBFS without condom. Nope! Does that mean only 2 of seven were willing to screw without a rubber or you refused or what? It used to be that condoms were rarely an issue and were pretty much up to the customer and indeed had to be insisted upon on occasion (if you were that type of concerned guy of course). Have things changed that much? 5 of 7 insisted on a rubber? I will probably be castigated by the membership but one of the reasons I still go to the PI is because I hate the things and can (could?) still get laid without them.

Southeaster.

To answer your question, 5 of the 7 asked if I had a condom before we were about to 'do it'. I did not push it with those girls as I use a condom. The other 2 either opened up or rolled sideways for a BB session.

Now in the past, I have taken girls to other PI resort areas. Before the trips, I took them to the local medical facility and paid about $80 I (I think) to have them tested for everything (AIDS test was not available). Then I took a chance and did not pack any condoms.

I remember years ago the DOLLHOUSE had a blowjob video some of the girls told me they watch to learn the trade. This visit one girl who asked about using a condom told me they showed them a video of diseased TiTi's and Puki's. So maybe some of the girls are getting educated as to the risks.

With that said, I am sure you can find girls willing to go BB if that is a chance you are willing to take.

[AsianLover2]

Good summary. I am sure paying 3000 P makes you a nice handsome guy. A recent posting by another referred to giving 1000 P tips. There are bargirls giving really open sincere podcasts on their lives as bargirls on Youtube. Although there are exceptions, do not lose sight that money really does make one very handsome and nice!!

Maybe I should have mentioned I tip for performance. GFE earns the 1000 P tip. Moreover, I have had many girls meet me outside the clubs for free. I treat the girls I am with like a girlfriend. $82 for an all night date with a beautiful Pinay for me is hardly overspending. I can remember paying 500 P BF's. And I was still 'handsome' then! LOL.

However, Now I am willing to pay the going rate for a girl that looks good to me.

But I understand everyone has a budget.

[Fastpiston]

I have visited AC 45 times from 2003 to 2013. After a 3 year hiatus, I decided to stop by for 5 days after being in Bali for a week. I have been reading all the negative reports posted here about Koreans taking over the bars. The girls only going with Koreans. The girls only wanting short time. Just a lot of Joli-bellies dancing now. The very poor attitudes, Etc. Etc. Etc.

Since I remember the 'How it was' and now know 'How it is' I will give you my trip experience.

Positives:

Day 1- BF'the a 7 from Viking for the afternoon. 3000 P. Very GFE. Had her leave at 7 pm.

-BF'the an 8 from Club RA (formerly Golden Nile). 3000 P. Very GFE. Stayed all night.

Day 2-BF'the a 7 from Pony Tails for the afternoon. 3000 P. Very GFE and stayed until I asked her to leave about 7 pm.

-BF'the a 7 from Club RA. 3000 P. Very GFE and stayed all night and had breakfast in the morning. Left about 10 am.

Day 3- BF'the an 8 from Pony Tails for afternoon. 3000 P. Very GFE and kept her all night for free. Spent the next day with her and sent her home 6 pm.

Day 4- BF'the an 8 from Club Ra. 3000 P. Very GFE, Stayed all night and had breakfast with me.

Day 5- BF's a solid 8. 5/9 from Club XS (sister club to Club Ra) 3500 P (I think). Very GFE and stayed all night. I would have kept her a couple of days if I had more time.

I took a trike to the perimeter clubs during the day with no problems.

I never felt overrun with Koreans.

2 girls willing to go BBFS. Nope!

2 girls wanted a foreign baby and asked me if I was willing. Uhhhhh. No thanks.

Negatives:

Had 1 super star girl from Atlantis tell me 'No' that she had mens. Not sure if true. But she did not seem interested in BF'ing. Too bad. She was a hottie.

Had an afternoon girl (very cute 7) from Geckos say 'No' she had men. I know the mamasan forever and had her check. Yep. Sure enough. She had mens. No harm. No foul.

Had an afternoon girl 7/8 from Viking tell me she only goes with Koreans. Waitress friend told me it is true. She is afraid of a foreigner's big dick.

Summary:

Go to AC and enjoy. I visited several more clubs but did not spot any of interest to me. Maybe the best were already gone. The girls do tell me I am very handsome and waitresses and mamasan's will tell the girls I am a nice guy. That can help. Still not sure why other posters have not had good luck.

I enjoyed 7 hot girls in 5 days. The overnights hugged me all night long. Enjoyed seeing so many friends I have known. All in all a great time. So I am planning to return again next year.

Good summary. I am sure paying 3000 P makes you a nice handsome guy. A recent posting by another referred to giving 1000 P tips. There are bargirls giving really open sincere podcasts on their lives as bargirls on Youtube. Although there are exceptions, do not lose sight that money really does make one very handsome and nice!!

[AsianLover2]

Great Report AsianLover. I like your style of hitting the bars you like often and sampling an assortment of the talent within. I remember hooking up with some very sexy cultural dancers & black dress dancers in Golden Nile on my last couple of visits. It was my favorite AC bar. I liked it much better than Doll House or Atlantis where the atmosphere seemed more artificial and contrived, especially Atlantis. I am glad to hear Club RA has still got the talent. Can you tell me more about Club XS? Is it in the same building different floor? What if anything differentiates it from Club RA?

And lastly, so 2 girls wanted to have your baby. That's funny! Just what a punter wants to hear. LOL.

Club XS is across the street from Kokomos. Was formally club Forbidden City. Seating is more stadium like than Club Ra as you walk down toward stage. I prefer Club Ra over Atlantis too as I can get a better view of all the talent. As far as sampling talent within 1 club, it can pay off. Believe me when I say more girls talk about their barfines with each other than we do. Being a 'good boom boom' , treating a girl like a true girlfriend and giving a decent tip will pay off in spades when asking the other girls to go out. When returning to a club I get my barfined girls all telling me "Oh honey ko, barfine me, I go with you again, OK? Or even better. They will recommend a girlfriend that wants to meet me.

To answer how much I tipped? I tipped trike money and 1000 P for all the girls except the 8.5/9. I gave her 1500 P + trike.

Also, this was my first visit that I only had 1 girl at a time. Must be getting old.