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  1. #21875
    To the two new posters, take a look at JjBee62's posts. Especially one he did last November when I went down to Medellin.

    The long and short of it. Stay in El Poblado, and hit the casas during the day and stripclubs at night.

    If you want night action in an area that's safe, where you meet girls face to face outside, then you will have better luck in Cartagena where about a quarter of the women out late at night past 11 pm are hookers, and the old city in Cartagena is super safe.

  2. #21874

    Is the plaza Botero area better?

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing1  [View Original Post]
    Going to Medellin in April. First time there. Heard great things and we're excited. A friend who has gone before said to stay in Parque Lleras. Is that a good area? Looks like there is a lot of bars and what not there. Is the plaza Botera area better?
    No, LOL, it is not. Downtown gets a little scary the later it gets, the zombies come out. If you speak good Spanish, can blend in, have knowledge of Latin customs and and be Hi-speed / low drag and don't mind playing the game "avoid the mugging" then downtown is fun as it is ground zero, or don't mind taking cabs everywhere after dark.

  3. #21873

    Guest friendly

    Good day gentlemen, currently planning a trip to Medellin with two of my buddies. Looking through many available airbnb's, a lot of owners / agencies do not allow guests. Also I noticed most if not all of the buildings have security. I don't mind slipping the guards something reasonable to bring someone up, but not all accept.

    How do you guys go about finding a place, we don't really want to do a hotel, we enjoy staying at a nice pad.

    Any suggestions or advice on where to stay?

  4. #21872

    First Medellin trip

    Going to Medellin in April. First time there. Heard great things and we're excited. A friend who has gone before said to stay in Parque Lleras. Is that a good area? Looks like there is a lot of bars and what not there. Is the plaza Botera area better?

    Anyone stayed at Lleras Green Hotel? Good rates. Do they allow guests?

    We like to do day Casas, at night we typically like to go to the bars and try our luck with non pros. So a balance is ideal.

  5. #21871
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Just some advice. Take everything from the CC girls with a grain of salt. Yes, some are mostly what they say. They will show up looking like their pictures and perform the way you expect. If you're not older than about 35, fit and attractive, maybe all of them will be good.

    However, if you don't meet all the above criteria, you're not going to be a top priority and you've got 3. 5 weeks left to hold their attention. That's equivalent to 7 years in young chica time.

    Things to expect:

    1. Papi, necesito. Phone bill utility bill, rent, medicine, etc. You'll get at least 1 money request before your trip. Even if it's 8 hours before your flight, it can't wait.

    2. Crickets. When the time comes, at least one will be unreachable. Lost phone, sick relative, cat with anxiety issues. Some reason will later be offered. It's to avoid saying "no. " For whatever reason she changed her mind, but no Colombiana will ever tell you.

    3. The walking dead. What shows up will only vaguely resemble the person (s) you expect.

    4. Change of plans. You set up to meet at your condo, but now she wants to meet at a bar or restaurant. You might end up at the condo with company. You might just get dinner, drinks at 3 places and excuses.

    5. Late. 3 pm will become 6 pm. 8 pm will be 11 pm. If you expect them to be on time (30 minutes), you won't be happy.

    You can find winners on CC, but don't expect them all to be winners.
    I ditto all of your sentiments. Been there and done that both in Bogota and MDE. For me in the end it was just too much effort and work, now I go and just have fun and enjoy what comes my way when I hit the casas, bars, discos and the like.

    TTM.

  6. #21870
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdb013  [View Original Post]
    I am going to Medellin latter this week for 5 days. I have been using Col. Cupid for about a month with pretty good results. I guess we will see when I get there. I have boiled it down to about 10 possibilities. Some seem like pros, some semi pros and a couple that are not. A lot of them are students. Go ahead and break the ice with whatsapp and let them know what you are looking for. I would simply ask if they would come spend the night with me at my condo. I have had pretty good results. We go ahead and discuss money, services, etc. Many are willing to bring friends with them. They will send you sexy photos. March 30th will get here soon. I would go ahead start working my list and taking off those that don't fit the bill. You will have time to add others from CC. Then keep their interests by texting them a couple times a week. I will let you know how well it works next wee. But so far, I have 3 groups of 3 sums lined up, about 5 singles interested (mostly Students) and 3 that work full time, one is a math teacher. Very hot!
    Just some advice. Take everything from the CC girls with a grain of salt. Yes, some are mostly what they say. They will show up looking like their pictures and perform the way you expect. If you're not older than about 35, fit and attractive, maybe all of them will be good.

    However, if you don't meet all the above criteria, you're not going to be a top priority and you've got 3. 5 weeks left to hold their attention. That's equivalent to 7 years in young chica time.

    Things to expect:

    1. Papi, necesito. Phone bill utility bill, rent, medicine, etc. You'll get at least 1 money request before your trip. Even if it's 8 hours before your flight, it can't wait.

    2. Crickets. When the time comes, at least one will be unreachable. Lost phone, sick relative, cat with anxiety issues. Some reason will later be offered. It's to avoid saying "no. " For whatever reason she changed her mind, but no Colombiana will ever tell you.

    3. The walking dead. What shows up will only vaguely resemble the person (s) you expect.

    4. Change of plans. You set up to meet at your condo, but now she wants to meet at a bar or restaurant. You might end up at the condo with company. You might just get dinner, drinks at 3 places and excuses.

    5. Late. 3 pm will become 6 pm. 8 pm will be 11 pm. If you expect them to be on time (30 minutes), you won't be happy.

    You can find winners on CC, but don't expect them all to be winners.

  7. #21869
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    Botero Medellin (formerly Botero Plaza) is a winner. The price and convenient location are hard to beat. It's true about the hot water and location across from Yakuza. In room Internet is non-existent. It works well in the lobby, wear earplugs if you need to get work done. They play novelas 24/7 at high volume LOL!

    A lot of people on civilian travel web sites complain bitterly about the beds. Anyone who has traveled around South America won't be surprised at the extra firm style of mattress. I love it, it makes my back feel great. I wish I could find mattresses that firm at home. I can see how people who prefer a softer mattress would not like it. The other thing that I find strange about the civilian reviews is the number of people who describe the place as "run down" or needing "renovation. " OK, it's not the Ritz but the rooms are clean and freshly painted if sparely furnished. What do these people expect for 76,000 pesos? Cheap Charlies, too cheap to pay an extra 13,000 pesos to stay at the Nutibara. Anyway, girls are allowed with the presentation of a documento.
    Yeah I loved the beds too, nice and firm, better for sex too I think. I thought there were some whiners in those reviews too, the place was fine to me for $26, mini fridge meant I had cold beers, water, soda, cheese / crackers etc in the room for me & dates. The day desk girls wanted ID from chicas, the late night guys just waved me by. Of the 4 girls I took up to my room I think only one had to show ID.

    Newbies with no Spanish / Latin America experience would probably feel safer somewhere else, Centro gets scary as the night goes on.

  8. #21868
    Botero Medellin (formerly Botero Plaza) is a winner. The price and convenient location are hard to beat. It's true about the hot water and location across from Yakuza. In room Internet is non-existent. It works well in the lobby, wear earplugs if you need to get work done. They play novelas 24/7 at high volume LOL!

    A lot of people on civilian travel web sites complain bitterly about the beds. Anyone who has traveled around South America won't be surprised at the extra firm style of mattress. I love it, it makes my back feel great. I wish I could find mattresses that firm at home. I can see how people who prefer a softer mattress would not like it. The other thing that I find strange about the civilian reviews is the number of people who describe the place as "run down" or needing "renovation. " OK, it's not the Ritz but the rooms are clean and freshly painted if sparely furnished. What do these people expect for 76,000 pesos? Cheap Charlies, too cheap to pay an extra 13,000 pesos to stay at the Nutibara. Anyway, girls are allowed with the presentation of a documento.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf662  [View Original Post]
    NP, I had a inside room, the windows opened to a central shaft / space and just left my windows open all night, nice and cool. Hot water takes a bit to get going but is nice and hot and my room had a big shower. Check out the roof bar after it opens at 11:30, they have a steam room etc and nice views of the city. I never did eat at the 2nd story Botero hotel restaurant, let me know if it's any good if you eat there.

    That Tiendas D1 grocery store 1/2 block away is nice too (west end of Nutibara) and that back door through the small resturant in to Nutribara and then right / right to ATM is nice and safe too. Yeah I thought the "room" at Yakuska were yikes and would def. Take them to the Botero if staying there or to the love hotel next door.

  9. #21867
    Quote Originally Posted by ChikSika  [View Original Post]
    Gents,
    I'm all booked for a visit to Medellin 3/30, for 5 nights. Post divorce present to myself. I used to spend a lot of time in South America for work (many years ago, in a much more naive and less devious frame of mind). I also speak OK Spanish.
    I plan to meet up with a couple ladies I've connected with on Col Cupid (actually, I'm corresponding with several, but not enough time!) A couple seem like regular girls or semi-pros who (I hope) are open to fun with a cool gringo; a couple others seem like veterans. I'll get more direct to the point on our Whatsapp and Facebook conversations before my trip. I don't mind some wining and dining, but there needs to be some sexy time too.
    I'd also like to try out a couple of the strip clubs and the night club scene. Not sure if I'll hit the 'spas' but a possibility.
    Staying in an apartment in Envigado. Want to experience more local flavor, while still being close enough to the action. Hopefully I planned that part right.
    Anyone going to be in Medellin at the same time, I'd be happy to meet up!
    C.
    Just got back, did set up some SeekingArrangements dates before I went, 1 worked out great, one was so / so and wouldn't repeat and many were flaky on arrival times and getting back to you on WhatsApp or crazy on the prices. My recommendation is set up a dinner date or two if you want but have a fall back plan to go to, I would do the strip clubs, you can scope all the girls out longer then in the Casa'a and have a drink with them and check the attitude. Hard to do when they just parade the girls out and you have to pick. Looks are only part of a great time Vs a OK time.

    And Conejitas had about 50+ girls on when I was in there on a Sat night, good luck seeing that many at the Casa's without making many stops.

  10. #21866

    Medellin trip

    I am going to Medellin latter this week for 5 days. I have been using Col. Cupid for about a month with pretty good results. I guess we will see when I get there. I have boiled it down to about 10 possibilities. Some seem like pros, some semi pros and a couple that are not. A lot of them are students. Go ahead and break the ice with whatsapp and let them know what you are looking for. I would simply ask if they would come spend the night with me at my condo. I have had pretty good results. We go ahead and discuss money, services, etc. Many are willing to bring friends with them. They will send you sexy photos. March 30th will get here soon. I would go ahead start working my list and taking off those that don't fit the bill. You will have time to add others from CC. Then keep their interests by texting them a couple times a week. I will let you know how well it works next wee. But so far, I have 3 groups of 3 sums lined up, about 5 singles interested (mostly Students) and 3 that work full time, one is a math teacher. Very hot!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChikSika  [View Original Post]
    Gents,

    I'm all booked for a visit to Medellin 3/30, for 5 nights. Post divorce present to myself. I used to spend a lot of time in South America for work (many years ago, in a much more naive and less devious frame of mind). I also speak OK Spanish.

    I plan to meet up with a couple ladies I've connected with on Col Cupid (actually, I'm corresponding with several, but not enough time!) A couple seem like regular girls or semi-pros who (I hope) are open to fun with a cool gringo; a couple others seem like veterans. I'll get more direct to the point on our Whatsapp and Facebook conversations before my trip. I don't mind some wining and dining, but there needs to be some sexy time too.

    I'd also like to try out a couple of the strip clubs and the night club scene. Not sure if I'll hit the 'spas' but a possibility.

    Staying in an apartment in Envigado. Want to experience more local flavor, while still being close enough to the action. Hopefully I planned that part right.

    Anyone going to be in Medellin at the same time, I'd be happy to meet up!

    C.

  11. #21865

    Medellin Trip

    Gents,

    I'm all booked for a visit to Medellin 3/30, for 5 nights. Post divorce present to myself. I used to spend a lot of time in South America for work (many years ago, in a much more naive and less devious frame of mind). I also speak OK Spanish.

    I plan to meet up with a couple ladies I've connected with on Col Cupid (actually, I'm corresponding with several, but not enough time!) A couple seem like regular girls or semi-pros who (I hope) are open to fun with a cool gringo; a couple others seem like veterans. I'll get more direct to the point on our Whatsapp and Facebook conversations before my trip. I don't mind some wining and dining, but there needs to be some sexy time too.

    I'd also like to try out a couple of the strip clubs and the night club scene. Not sure if I'll hit the 'spas' but a possibility.

    Staying in an apartment in Envigado. Want to experience more local flavor, while still being close enough to the action. Hopefully I planned that part right.

    Anyone going to be in Medellin at the same time, I'd be happy to meet up!

    C.

  12. #21864
    Quote Originally Posted by FunLuvr  [View Original Post]
    300,000 plus food and drinks is about right for all night, but I don't think you should plan an all night with someone you know nothing about. I have been with many ladies in Medellin, and almost everyone has been very nice. But there is always the possibility of encountering a crazy one. I think you should plan a couple of hours with someone, then make further plans after that. You should pay 150 K to 200 K plus a cab fare for a couple of hours.
    Great advice. There's too much downside to committing yourself to all night with a girl you've never sampled before. Do her short-time for a lesser rate. If you get along well, you can either extend the session or do TLN the next time.

  13. #21863
    Pan Brasa is a chain. I've seen them other places around Centro. It's a good option to keep costs down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf662  [View Original Post]
    Oh yeah, and I thought the Brasa Pan on the corner near the subway line across from Nutibara 1/2 block from Hotel Botero had good cheap food and was open late and early.

    This place here:

    https://www.google.com/maps/@6.2527809, -75.5675642,3 a,75 y,31.82 h,82.48 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 svam83 pwWpxf_59 rXmlKvuQ!2 e0!7 i13312!8 i6656?hl=en.

    Pics of menu:

    P.S. what's it like living on top of Coneijitas? Have to pay house fee for them to leave or what?

  14. #21862
    Quote Originally Posted by MakeMyDay  [View Original Post]
    Here my 2 cents about Colombia and Medellin for a first time visitor.

    No Spanish means no clue in Colombia (unless you go to the Mansion I guess, have not been there because it was full). Here is short description of my journey and what I have learned so far, so people who read this while researching a mongering trip can use these 2 cents.

    I knew I needed Spanish for Colombia so I started learning it using Duolingo (free on the web). I think I practiced for 3-4 months every day for about half an hour before I went. I'm the math type of guy and learning a foreign language is not that easy as it is for some. When I arrived in Colombia I still could not understand a thing and nobody understood me when I tried to say something. So I took here in Colombia about 20 hours of private lesson and 20 hours class (here my Duolingo hours were a huge plus)! For this all, I think I paid about $600 and it took three weeks. Suddenly I can kind of talk to the taxi drivers and girls. Not good at all, it is totally broken Spanish but I can say things and understand things.

    I can talk to a girl at Fase II and understand things she tells me like many foreigners come to Fase II really do not speak one single word of Spanish or, the taxi driver tells me that at night you can drive through the red traffic lights (until 5:00 AM) and I can tell him that the lights in my country flash orange in the night and that it means the same.

    I write this so you have an idea of my conversation level at this moment. When you are at that level suddenly girls are getting cheap.

    Fase II is reasonably easy without any Spanish but it is expensive. I think European prices. One hour is all in about $300.000 (taxi, door, drinks, girl). When you can have my kinds of conversation in Spanish you can go to the massage parlors like 'Chicas punto Com'. An hour with a girl there is 60.000! No drinks, no door, no pressure. Anyway, because you can say things and ask questions like if she wants to see you outside the club or if she has a nice friend who is willing or if its allowed at that place at all to take somebody out. When 1 hour in a massage parlor costs you 60.000 all in, you probably can buy a lot for the 300.000 Fase II fee! Negotiating a takeout or getting a phone number and having some fun beside sex? I think at least you need my level of Spanish.

    Just for mongering and not willing to learn a bit of Spanish? Even the Dominican Republic / Sosua is easier than Colombia. Medellin is a very interesting city though. Safety? Poblado is safe, also at night. The Center is safe when and where it is crowded (I do not mean 'walking dead' crowded).

    Hope somebody finds this helpful.
    It only takes an hour or two to greatly improve any foreign trip. Learn a few standard greetings and responses. Learn the numbers, learn the basic courtesy expressions and learn how to say you don't speak the language.

    The natives become a lot friendlier when you are making an effort to communicate. If you're asking for directions in the street, they will grab other people to find someone who speaks better English. If you are just repeating the same English phrases, they shrug and walk away.

    Congratulations! You overcame the first hurdle, accepting that a foreign country won't change their language to suit you.

  15. #21861
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdb013  [View Original Post]
    I will be in Medellin next week. I have been working CC for a month and have several girls willing to come to my condo for the night. They are asking $300,000 to $500,000. Is that high?
    300,000 plus food and drinks is about right for all night, but I don't think you should plan an all night with someone you know nothing about. I have been with many ladies in Medellin, and almost everyone has been very nice. But there is always the possibility of encountering a crazy one. I think you should plan a couple of hours with someone, then make further plans after that. You should pay 150 K to 200 K plus a cab fare for a couple of hours.

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