Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Grandaddy Perp]

Please, tell us the secret, where is that fabulous online P4 P scene which is now the dominant way of mongering?

The obvious one is smooci.com, an agglomeration of escort agencies (no independents), with perhaps 100 girls total, about 2 good agogo bars' worth from the good old days. Nice, yes, but not a "dominant portal" for sure. There are Craigslist / Backpage, but those show a very small number of girls (20-30), and on Backpage most seem to be from one or two agencies, not independent. There is a smattering of Thai-language forums, but no major portal. We shouldn't even count the general dating sites / apps (like ThaiFriendly or Tinder), which are 95% normal girls, don't even specifically label working girls and even delete profiles which are too obviously P4 P.

So, what am I missing here? Is there anything like the 141 sites for Hong Kong, sufficiently large and clearly geared at P4 P?

You can't compare HK to TH when it comes to this sort of thing. Regardless of openness of places like Nana and Soi Cowboy, prostitution is still illegal and the general consensus is sex is still best kept behind closed doors. And unlike in the past where crackdowns were more of a show of well a show, we are seeing a more systematic approach these days with the end goal being a re-branding of Thailand. This has pushed the majority of the scene below ground.

Sites as obvious as CL are not the norm but its mostly trolls and ladyboys so there isn't much attention paid to it. So, while Tinder, TF, and WeChat may seeem like they are predominantly 'regular' ladies there are way more than 5% on these sites offering services, they just can't do it blatantly but if you hit up the clubs and lounges you'll see the ladies that are FLing and then see them on Tinder or you will be propositioned after starting up a regular chat with a lady the strikes your fancy.

So, in order to really maximize your options, you have to read between the lines and explore a bit. Most of my P4P online social network started with a Tinder or TF contact or word of mouth from Thai friends and colleagues. It's not uncommon to get linked into a group of FLers just from a single Tinder meetup or from browsing a past hookup's fb friend list. This may sound like a lot of work but its really not if you've become accustomed to making social connections online.

When you add up Tinder, TF, WeChat, FB, Line, the Thai sites, Japanese and Korean sites, smooci, etc. You will see that there are still a lot of ladies out there to choose from they have just become more specialized in who they want to cater to.

[Crocodilexp]

The online scene is also the dominant portal for accessing P4P ladies these days. The convenience, freedom, and profitability is just too hard to resist and it's not as difficult to arrange a date as you make it out to be, in fact it's actually quite easy in addition to being much cheaper than the MPs. Many of these ladies that are online either have their own condo for meetings or work out of brothel style houses located in residential neighborhoods.

Please, tell us the secret, where is that fabulous online P4 P scene which is now the dominant way of mongering?

The obvious one is smooci.com, an agglomeration of escort agencies (no independents), with perhaps 100 girls total, about 2 good agogo bars' worth from the good old days. Nice, yes, but not a "dominant portal" for sure. There are Craigslist / Backpage, but those show a very small number of girls (20-30), and on Backpage most seem to be from one or two agencies, not independent. There is a smattering of Thai-language forums, but no major portal. We shouldn't even count the general dating sites / apps (like ThaiFriendly or Tinder), which are 95% normal girls, don't even specifically label working girls and even delete profiles which are too obviously P4 P.

So, what am I missing here? Is there anything like the 141 sites for Hong Kong, sufficiently large and clearly geared at P4 P?

[Syzygies]

Good report! I visited Evita in the past but the girls were a bit mature for my tastes so never partook. Did you see any girls a bit younger, like early 20's?

Sorry 25 YO was just perfect for me. She did not show signs of deterioration in face or body. I did not pay particular attention to exact age they looked. Some could have been younger. If pretty and in good shape I care little about actual age. If not pretty, I am not interested to pay attention to age. It did not give the same impression of being like Nataree with below age girls.

I know many guys see that good-body + Young-age = beauty, but that is completely wrong for me. I need beautiful face, or at least well above average. If a girl has real beauty it will not have faded before 30 Years. Body can be less perfect for me.

Evita girls did not strike me as being too old, like I experienced previously at some other places like Biwa, Sai Fon, Christina, Annies, Darling, etc.

However only two girls out of the bunch really interested me for further attention. Rest not sufficiently my spec. I don't think you can expect to get PSE at these places.

I am still awaiting a call to go do Yok at Emannuelle who I fucked 9 years ago, more than once, and had a great body at the time. I don't know her age, and don't care. Face is still okay For me. Hope the tits did not shrink too much.

[Whoreman]

Evita (Ay-wee-tah). On the north side of Petchburi road just east of Ekkamai road. Meree (May-ree) is right opposite but I did not go in there as things turned out.

Prices started at 1700 for fishbowl girls. Maybe 8 girls in there. One had my attention. Good figure but big nose. Looked at the M level sideline girls. About 7 girls in the M section. Just one I really liked. She hardly looked up. Busy with phone? Anyway slim and petite with cute little nose. Decided to take her. Price 2000.

Her name was Oan (sounds like On I guess) (don't know how she spells it perhaps Aon). Said she was not scared of big Farangs.

Turns out I got lucky in several ways. Age 25 no babies. Does not smoke. No tats. No Piercings. Just ACups but nice shape. Nice nipples. Plenty of soft tit to grab so not tiny tits. Very curvy small waist to broader thigh but slim legs.

Good report! I visited Evita in the past but the girls were a bit mature for my tastes so never partook. Did you see any girls a bit younger, like early 20's?

[Citizen]

Had to try this place out today to see if it is as bad as you all say. All the ladies were dressed in these sexy daisy duke shorts that I really love. I chose number 20 who is 20 years old. She was inexperienced but I actually enjoyed taking charge in the session which is normally not the case with me at an oily. I normally let the massage girls take the lead unlike freelancers and go go girls. I chose the 2 hour jacuzzi option for 3,400. The session in itself was good and I was able to get good millege from this 3 week in the business lady if the members can read between the lines.

Looks: 7/10.

Service: 7/10.

Body: 6/10.

Repeat: no because many other options for the same or lower price with better looking ladies.

Be & B massage seems to have gotten a bad rep. Believe me that they know this. My girl insisted I comment on her service to the manager on my way out. The manager asked me before I could even enter the lobby from the back stairs. Maybe this is a welcome change, The lineup was small with about 8 ladies at 1:30 PM today.

That is pretty bold move, I thought mostly people will avoid the place after my report, anyway you are right the girls are mostly in experienced, I tried to take charge as well, however the girls would not let me do anything at all, and obviously one cannot force their way, but I am glad you got your money's worth and did enjoy yourself.

And yes I do agree with you that the management is aware of the fact that they have a bad reputation, being in an alley which is full of massage places, with options like snow white and cherry in the same lane, they need to do something better, probably their strategy is to have younger girls, but in my opinion their inexperience seems to getting the worse of it. In the time of such stiff competition having higher prices than your competitors with inexperienced and unwilling staff seems to be a bad business formula to me.

[Syzygies]

Probably gave her DATY for 29 minutes.

That was a typo as you could probably guess. Should have been 20 minutes. A very long DATY anyway. Was fortunate I had 2 hours in total.

[Member #4591]

I don't mind girls having darker skin at all. Good looks is not about that for me.

Do you think any looked as good as your S22 at Merci?

I would say about 5 or 6 were just as good if not better.

[Syzygies]

Wanted to look in some more soapies.

Firstly taxi on expressway to Noar Cafe, now seems to be called the Bank. Girl rings her husband and asks him where he is. He says I am at The Bank. LOL She is puzzled since wonders if the bank should be still. Open at 6. 30 PM.

Noar had a lot more girls 10 years ago and had a fishbowl.

Now the line up has about 10 girls at 7 pm and prices started at 2700 or was it 2900. Almost all girls had nose jobs so which ones were acceptable? Was looking at just two girls. One seemed a bit flabby. The other slim but marks on legs and nose a bit too prominent. Was not convinced. Took a motorcycle to Junction of Petchburi and Ekkamai.

Evita (Ay-wee-tah). On the north side of Petchburi road just east of Ekkamai road. Meree (May-ree) is right opposite but I did not go in there as things turned out.

Prices started at 1700 for fishbowl girls. Maybe 8 girls in there. One had my attention. Good figure but big nose. Looked at the M level sideline girls. About 7 girls in the M section. Just one I really liked. She hardly looked up. Busy with phone? Anyway slim and petite with cute little nose. Decided to take her. Price 2000.

Her name was Oan (sounds like On I guess) (don't know how she spells it perhaps Aon). Said she was not scared of big Farangs.

Turns out I got lucky in several ways. Age 25 no babies. Does not smoke. No tats. No Piercings. Just ACups but nice shape. Nice nipples. Plenty of soft tit to grab so not tiny tits. Very curvy small waist to broader thigh but slim legs.

Seemed quite shy in the bath.

On the bed was shy too. Using legs to hide her pussy. Her pussy was very beautiful. LFK to start. Shy at start of trying to DATY her. Soon she got into it big time. Probably gave her DATY for 29 minutes. Her hips undulated and squirmed but used her hand to hold my head to the spot. She definitely liked it. No signs of wanting to quit it till right at end may jave been too sensitive.

Gave a little BBBJ while I fingered her. Fucking lasted a long time in a few positions. DFK was good. Tongue play. She had forgotten the shyness. Her ass was real nice looking in doggy fucking.

Finally she finished me off with a BBBJ while I still had digits in her very smooth wet pussy. We went to clean up. The phone rang to indicate our 2 hours was up. I was very greatful that the session was not just 90 minutes.

Hard to fault her other than starting off shy and having teeth braces which did nit interfere with DFK. Or with nice soft smooth BBBJ. She learned what I liked quickly able to slow down her pace to suit me.

I hate taking newbie girls. Girls with some experience who know what they are doing is better. First really good fun GFE, new to me, soapy girl I had for many months. Definite repeat. Today got lucky. Do need luck to find the right soapy girl that really likes cock and has stamina to go extended fuck and is good looking, face, body, and pussy.

Cost 2000 plus transport to get there plus 40 Baht drinks plus tips. Came back to Sukumvit by Motorcycle.

She had a nose job but most guys could not tell. Was very subtle increase in nose bridge. Very straight. No exposed nostrils or sharp section. I am OK with such an expert job.

So my recent experience with trying soapy girls first time. One average girl at Darling last year before it closed, one disaster girl, one ok but average girl and finally a really good girl I would do again. Its always a roll of the dice.

I can probably do her 3 times for the price of a top girl from The Lord. It's good to collect some moderate price repeat girls cheaper than my bar girls favourites.

Face 7 tits 7 rest of body 8 pussy 9, gfe/dfk 8. Good standard across all aspects. Great VFM for my specs. Not quite the prettiest face I fucked this year but still very nice.

[Member #4591]

Had to try this place out today to see if it is as bad as you all say. All the ladies were dressed in these sexy daisy duke shorts that I really love. I chose number 20 who is 20 years old. She was inexperienced but I actually enjoyed taking charge in the session which is normally not the case with me at an oily. I normally let the massage girls take the lead unlike freelancers and go go girls. I chose the 2 hour jacuzzi option for 3,400. The session in itself was good and I was able to get good millege from this 3 week in the business lady if the members can read between the lines.

Looks: 7/10.

Service: 7/10.

Body: 6/10.

Repeat: no because many other options for the same or lower price with better looking ladies.

Be & B massage seems to have gotten a bad rep. Believe me that they know this. My girl insisted I comment on her service to the manager on my way out. The manager asked me before I could even enter the lobby from the back stairs. Maybe this is a welcome change, The lineup was small with about 8 ladies at 1:30 PM today.

[Grandaddy Perp]

The economy was never that good under Yingluck. Sure some improvement from the financial crises had to occur, but never a full recovery, and economy has never been actually good since then. Southern Thais were hurting when the rubber industry bottomed out. Common people were hurting as prices for cooking gas went up a lot while price of fuel dropped encouraging higher use of cars, when traffic jams already bad. Stupid policies of Yingluck caused most of economy to go bad again.

For the Soapy Industry in Bangkok, what the tourists are doing is mostly irrelevant. Tourists would make up a very small portion of the business that Soapies used to do in the good years. The major customers are Thais, plus foreigners (a lot Asian) that have lived and worked here for a significant time.

Tourists would be much more relevant to Soapies in Pattaya and Patong Beach, not so much in Chiang Mai.

A bit fanciful, the bit about partying for 4 years.

Obviously online sex hookup has an effect on all mongering. Does this make many Thais change from a Soapy visit? Who knows? I suspect not, because online hook-ups take a lot of time and research. Thai men that visit Soapies are known to be normally changing girls very frequently, as they like variety, and wish to avoid getting hooked on particular girls. Thais with wives have not got the time to do this research online to get a continuous stream of new girls, I am guessing, and would get caught. Maybe they want girls dressed as school girls at Kapoo club "spas".

I wasn't directly relating the boom in tourism to foot traffic in the soapies but anyone who has lived here on and off for the last 15 odd years could easily see a massive amount of development that started around 2010. Bangkok isn't the same city that it was 10 years ago with most of the changes happening in the last 5 years. You also underestimate the tourism boom that took place that starting around 2010 and peaked in 2014. It created a much larger middle class than has ever existed in Thailand.

A lot of the more beautiful women who would have entered the farang oriented sex scene traveled south to the islands or flooded Khao San Road and did in fact become party hostesses to a lot of young traveling foreigners. The online scene is also the dominant portal for accessing P4P ladies these days. The convenience, freedom, and profitability is just too hard to resist and it's not as difficult to arrange a date as you make it out to be, in fact it's actually quite easy in addition to being much cheaper than the MPs. Many of these ladies that are online either have their own condo for meetings or work out of brothel style houses located in residential neighborhoods.

Yes, rubber tree farmers have been hurting but that's because too many people invested in rubber tree farms but people who invested in tourism, manuf, food processing, the financial sector, and farmers who have diversified their crops did and continue to do extremely well. There is plenty of money in circulation at the moment and enough of it is in the hands of the general public to be able to visit a MP and to avoid having to work in them.

[Whoreman]

555 The discussion started off being about the general decline of the Soapy Massage industry in Bangkok and the reasons, so not entirely out of context. Only a few comments were about the economy (the first paragraph of my last post), and it having affect on declining customers. Maybe you missed the rest of the post, due to being bored so quickly.

It would indeed be nice if we had separate threads for Soapies and for Oilies in Bangkok so you would not have to bother with the Soapies thread. Annies would keep it's own thread because to me it's somewhat of an Oily like shop masquerading as a Soapy by having a bath and fishtank, but nothing like all the other Soapies in style.

I go to soapies every now and again but have no interest in your theories on the link between their quality and the economy. It's not at all relevant.

[Syzygies]

The discussion about Thailand's economy belongs in the general thread, doesn't it? Or the Lounge and Chat thread.

555 The discussion started off being about the general decline of the Soapy Massage industry in Bangkok and the reasons, so not entirely out of context. Only a few comments were about the economy (the first paragraph of my last post), and it having affect on declining customers. Maybe you missed the rest of the post, due to being bored so quickly.

It would indeed be nice if we had separate threads for Soapies and for Oilies in Bangkok so you would not have to bother with the Soapies thread. Annies would keep it's own thread because to me it's somewhat of an Oily like shop masquerading as a Soapy by having a bath and fishtank, but nothing like all the other Soapies in style.

[Whoreman]

The discussion about Thailand's economy belongs in the general thread, doesn't it? Or the Lounge and Chat thread.

[Syzygies]

I think the internet and proliferation of online social media are actually more to blame. The economy actually rebounded from 2010-2014 due to Bangkok being seen as a potential business / lifestyle center in addition to the massive influx of tourists. Thailand was the place to travel to for a good 3-4 year stretch. During this time, a lot of the hotter ladies skipped entering the sex scene and instead partied for 4 years with all of the young men who flocked here to party full-moon style.

The economy was never that good under Yingluck. Sure some improvement from the financial crises had to occur, but never a full recovery, and economy has never been actually good since then. Southern Thais were hurting when the rubber industry bottomed out. Common people were hurting as prices for cooking gas went up a lot while price of fuel dropped encouraging higher use of cars, when traffic jams already bad. Stupid policies of Yingluck caused most of economy to go bad again.

For the Soapy Industry in Bangkok, what the tourists are doing is mostly irrelevant. Tourists would make up a very small portion of the business that Soapies used to do in the good years. The major customers are Thais, plus foreigners (a lot Asian) that have lived and worked here for a significant time.

Tourists would be much more relevant to Soapies in Pattaya and Patong Beach, not so much in Chiang Mai.

A bit fanciful, the bit about partying for 4 years.

Obviously online sex hookup has an effect on all mongering. Does this make many Thais change from a Soapy visit? Who knows? I suspect not, because online hook-ups take a lot of time and research. Thai men that visit Soapies are known to be normally changing girls very frequently, as they like variety, and wish to avoid getting hooked on particular girls. Thais with wives have not got the time to do this research online to get a continuous stream of new girls, I am guessing, and would get caught. Maybe they want girls dressed as school girls at Kapoo club "spas".

[Citizen]

I'm reluctant to try out unknown places for the same reason. B&B got some bad reviews on this forum, apart from some weird newbie who brought his own music player and then started weeping with emotion.

How did your session with Ninja go by the way? I haven't booked her for a few weeks as her service standards were disappointing last time, but maybe that's just me.

Ninja was nice not exceptional, I am not an anal guy, and maybe she specialises in it, she is nice and bubbly, and having heard so much about her in the forum I had to try her. Snow white however never disappoints on the whole, my favorite in snow white would be Emmy with whom I had a nice session last time, she was missing in action this time due to an accident, some other time perhaps. Wish I had done more through Rttf and not wasted my time & money on B&B massage. For me more than anything it is the wasted opportunity that will haunt me later back home.