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  1. #5264

    Extreme inflation

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    For newbies and guys not familiar with La Zona's street scene, chicas in the alley appeared to have set firm collective bargaining rates for their services. Most would quote following rates including the room:

    Sexo toda sin ropa con suckie (suckie fuckie totally nude), 400 plus 80 pesos for the room, total 480 pesos.

    There are always possibilities that the chicas will give you better rates and better services as you get to know them better. So go with the flow and have good times as the costs are so slow.
    Dear Captain,

    This is quite shocking, and depressing!

    Just one year ago, almost to the day (Thanksgiving), sin ropa was 200 pesos, plus hotel. In less than one year, it has doubled?

    480 pesos, (plus minimum 20 pesos tip), equals 500 pesos = USD $30 for ten-fifteen minutes of average-quality fun!

    (Not including the cost of travel and food, plus the time-value of having to spend several hours traveling to and fromTJ).

    Member NingunoEspecial is reporting an abundance of chicas; so why are the prices going high?

    Wondering if investing time / effort / money in other places (such as SeekingArrangements) makes more sense.

    Several bros have reported a decent, multi-hour, high-quality fun session for USD $150 with SA babies.

    As to Tijuana, this rate hike may have unintended consequences, in that many bros will now be reluctant to give (new) chicas a chance, as it is not just a few bucks they lose if the session turns out to be horrible, but perhaps 25% of their total budget for that particular night.

    Wow!

  2. #5263

    New Putas Union rates

    For newbies and guys not familiar with La Zona's street scene, chicas in the alley appeared to have set firm collective bargaining rates for their services. Most would quote following rates including the room:

    Sexo con ropa (bottom off, top on) 300 pesos plus 80 pesos for the room, thus quotes 380 pesos.

    Sexo toda sin ropa con suckie (suckie fuckie totally nude), 400 plus 80 pesos for the room, total 480 pesos.

    Most chicas were firm with their rates. Hard bargaining with the chicas have not yielded lower rates, but may [CodeWord140] them off, causing cold, angry sessions. Since the 100-peso differences are small (about $5), it's wise to go with these standard rates if you find some girls you like. That way you won't waste a lot of time and good will and will have sweet, sexy times with the chicas.

    There are always possibilities that the chicas will give you better rates and better services as you get to know them better. So go with the flow and have good times as the costs are so slow.

  3. #5262

    Not political

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Hi Ump,

    I remember Clinton's welfare reform in 2000 limits benefits to maximum 5 years for a person's lifetime. At least in California there is no life-long welfare, even though a relative who works as social workers told me counties and cities go from one funding program to another and always manage to come up with money for public assistance.

    Don't know how street moms stay alive and feed their kids. Most states require recipients to go to school for jobs training. How can they afford to pay for child care to go to school? I think unlike the rest of the world, the US has very strict laws for spousal and child support. The court garnishes wages and throw dead beats parents in jail.

    I did know a beautiful German Irish girl in LA with a baby. She had no public assistance and was struggling to pay rent, buy food and milk for the baby. She was working as outcall escort to LAX area, but most guys would just turn her down, even though she was nice, clean, beautiful. She had to pay $20 to $30 for the driver and if she got turned down, it would be her loss. Eventually she had to stop the outcall job.

    Sometimes I was making love to her while the baby slept quietly nearby. I felt sad for her. Don't know what happened to her, but hopefully free web sites like Craigslist and Backpage helped her survive.
    I'm not going to get into a big long political discussion. I get pissed off when others do it and those are the only comments I read for three days. All I know that many American girls on the street don't look as good as they used to and many don't stay out very long. You're not going to pay for much of anything with 1 or 2 customers per night. I'm sure there are exceptions. And I have met many nice girls over the years. This isn't about their character. This is merely my observations from over thirty years of mongering and info gained from the girls.

  4. #5261

    Welfare moms

    Hi Ump,

    I remember Clinton's welfare reform in 2000 limits benefits to maximum 5 years for a person's lifetime. At least in California there is no life-long welfare, even though a relative who works as social workers told me counties and cities go from one funding program to another and always manage to come up with money for public assistance.

    Don't know how street moms stay alive and feed their kids. Most states require recipients to go to school for jobs training. How can they afford to pay for child care to go to school? I think unlike the rest of the world, the US has very strict laws for spousal and child support. The court garnishes wages and throw dead beats parents in jail.

    I did know a beautiful German Irish girl in LA with a baby. She had no public assistance and was struggling to pay rent, buy food and milk for the baby. She was working as outcall escort to LAX area, but most guys would just turn her down, even though she was nice, clean, beautiful. She had to pay $20 to $30 for the driver and if she got turned down, it would be her loss. Eventually she had to stop the outcall job.

    Sometimes I was making love to her while the baby slept quietly nearby. I felt sad for her. Don't know what happened to her, but hopefully free web sites like Craigslist and Backpage helped her survive.

  5. #5260

    Street girls of Tijuana

    There are a few hot girls in front of hotel Ibiza, looking pretty but cold and hard, felt like humping onerous exercise machines.

    My wingman picked up Ximena, the tall barbie doll in front of hotel Cascada; her face resembling Cybill Shepherd's. He said she was not engaging and unresponsive, but neutral and acomodating in any sexual position.

    Valentina in front of Azul is very engaging in and out of bed. She's pretty, nice, sweet, pleasant with a sexy, supple body, nice smooth dry skin, really enjoys sex and shows it with lots of genuine sexy expressions. She learned enough English in the past 2 years to carry conversation, saying the seafood in Tijuana and Ensenada is yuk, makes her throw up. The only good seafood is in DF, Puebla, Veracruz.

    The little Yvonne in front of hotel Garcia always feels sexy, fun, sweet, gentle with excellent BJs. Renata, near the school girl corner, looks good, but her manners are rough.

    Quality of girls in the alley has declined steadily. Before 2008 there were way many more hot, nice, clean, sweet girls who can melt mongers' cold, hardened hearts.

  6. #5259

    Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Tijuana street girls tend to be traditional Mexicans, honest, humble and down to earth, some nice, sweet, very pretty. Sex with them is personal and very satisfying, unlike the impersonal and commercial service of the tattooed and hardened bar girls.

    Tijuana used to have some sweetest and prettiest girls in the alley before 2008, but talents have declined drastically. A few hot street girls have gone to work in HK, Krystal, Paola, Sofia ect. HK 's management reads ISG and regularly recruits popular street girls to work its club.

    The streets of LOS Angeles and San Diego have been relentlessly raided by aggressively Vice cops for prostitutes and drug dealers since about 1995. The young girls would shake in fear of arrest and jail time. One young girl in Hollywood was shaking while telling me how vice cops would look for excuse to kick in her door and harass her. So only the worst-looking and most hardened drug addicts would dare work the streets. Johns are also shaking, their dick shriveled on prospects of getting busted with vice stings.

    Yep. With only ugly, obese, lumpy, filthy women working the street of SoCal and the high risks being fucked by vice cops, Tijuana's alley girls look far more attractive.
    Can't argue with you. But when talking about Americans, don't leave out welfare. I am from the Chicago area. I used to roam areas where streets were full of girls. Was police pressure an issue? No question. But another giant factor was welfare. Why sell it on the street when government will give you a check for nothing, help with the rent and treat the kids? Think about this. Some of the best girls were making a fair amount of money on the street by working full shifts. Now many girls only stay out there long enough to earn their crack hit and quit for the night. I have a suspicion that if the government supplied free crack, it would be all over for the street trade.

  7. #5258

    Street girls Tijuana vs SoCal

    Tijuana street girls tend to be traditional Mexicans, honest, humble and down to earth, some nice, sweet, very pretty. Sex with them is personal and very satisfying, unlike the impersonal and commercial service of the tattooed and hardened bar girls.

    Tijuana used to have some sweetest and prettiest girls in the alley before 2008, but talents have declined drastically. A few hot street girls have gone to work in HK, Krystal, Paola, Sofia ect. HK 's management reads ISG and regularly recruits popular street girls to work its club.

    The streets of LOS Angeles and San Diego have been relentlessly raided by aggressively Vice cops for prostitutes and drug dealers since about 1995. The young girls would shake in fear of arrest and jail time. One young girl in Hollywood was shaking while telling me how vice cops would look for excuse to kick in her door and harass her. So only the worst-looking and most hardened drug addicts would dare work the streets. Johns are also shaking, their dick shriveled on prospects of getting busted with vice stings.

    Yep. With only ugly, obese, lumpy, filthy women working the street of SoCal and the high risks being fucked by vice cops, Tijuana's alley girls look far more attractive.

  8. #5257

    Total agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by NingunoEspecial  [View Original Post]
    All true but I find most of the stationed SG's so much more refreshing than the street walkers in say LA or SD. More natural and down to earth. Can't say that for the actual walkers in Tijuana but of course many of those too are from the USA.
    My point, exactly! I won't brag about the looks of the girls I chose. But I wanted sex, not a photo session.

  9. #5256
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    There are only a few very good-looking girls in the alley.

    Most are average-looking and not doing much business. Some stand there against the wall for long hours day and night, perhaps 12 to 16 hours a day, only go back to the hotel for a few hours sleep.

    A few are old and overweight. Now I know who keeps them in business. Hehe.
    All true but I find most of the stationed SG's so much more refreshing than the street walkers in say LA or SD. More natural and down to earth. Can't say that for the actual walkers in Tijuana but of course many of those too are from the USA.

  10. #5255

    Alley girls

    There are only a few very good-looking girls in the alley.

    Most are average-looking and not doing much business. Some stand there against the wall for long hours day and night, perhaps 12 to 16 hours a day, only go back to the hotel for a few hours sleep.

    A few are old and overweight. Now I know who keeps them in business. Hehe.

  11. #5254

    Cherry broken

    I have been to Tijuana a number of times, but never to the famous (infamous?) Alley. I finally made it the other day. I couldn't believe it! Pussy paradise in all shapes and sizes! This was on a weekday pm. Now granted, not everyone was paradise. There were enough plus sizes to stock the NFL with linemen. A few appeared to be jail bait and a few looked like they dated Teddy Roosevelt. But there were some gems there. It was the sheer number that awed me. There had to be at least a few dozen just in the one block alley. There were dozens more on the surrounding streets. I didn't even look in the bars to count. Anyone unable to find cheap enjoyment here just isn't trying. I ended with two different ones for $50. Now keep in mind, I wasn't looking for the top of the line models. I am in my sixties, short, balding, and somewhat overweight. I don't need some thing to rush me through for too much money and I can stay home to look at naked beauty on my computer. I ended up choosing what would probably be judged 4 or 5 on the SW scale. Don't ask me names, there are days when I'm lucky to remember my own. One was on a corner, about 4-3, somewhat top heavy, and a little overweight. The other was in front of the hotel across from Hong Kong, about the same build, only taller. You might not wanted pictures of them for your scrapbook. But they pleased me in every way from a number of positions. The only thing they didn't want to do was kiss, which I have found to be typical of most Tijuana girls. But they definitely took care of the rest of me. Finding swimsuit models in the bars is just fine. But I recommend all Tijuana mongers to visit the Alley at least once.

  12. #5253

    Broke my cherry

    I have been to Tijuana a number of times over many years, but finally found my way to the famous (infamous?) alley for the first time. Goodness gracious, any guy that can't get laid cheaply just isn't trying. I was there on a weekday afternoon. There must have been at least 3 dozen girls in the alley and more on surrounding streets. The scale was from one to ten. There were girls so ugly, I wouldn't force them on my worst enemy. There were girls with braces that looked liked they were still in junior high and several that looked like they were around to date Abe Lincoln. Several were very aggressive, practically yanking me off the street. The fact that I smile at everyone may have had something to do with it. If you want less attention from the girls, pay less attention to them. There were a few that might have placed in beauty competition, but more that could have played as NFL linemen. I ended up picking 2 that would have rated 2 or 3 on SW looks scale. But I am older and overweight. In my experience, the better looking ones can't wait to take my money and get out of there. I prefer service- I can look at swimsuit models at home online for free. The two I chose smelled clean and did it all. There was no time pressure and, surprisingly, no knocks on the doors. For $20 and $30, I got it all in various positions. Don't ask for names- I can barely remember my own. I will say one was on the corner, about 4-3 and slightly overweight. The other had the same build, but was 5-5. They both had hooters that buried my face. All in all, I was satisfied. The most difficult part was choice. I must have walked around the block three times before deciding and I didn't even go in any of the bars.

  13. #5252
    Quote Originally Posted by Donorita  [View Original Post]
    Once again I can't remember a name but I even considered a repeat. BTW she was into anal play for those who are into that. She was also into DATY but my tounge was still tired from the Tropicals girl. Have fun and sometimes taking a chance on a not so hot girl pays off.
    Great report. Thanks. Yes sounds like a WALKER not a card carrying SG. Also when they speak English it's a strong indicator. You lucked out, the odds of having a walker in your room are not in ones favor ordinarily at least 1st time.

    As far as DATY or ANAL play with a walker, beware. Also San Diego / Tijuana metro area currently has a HUGE HEP A outbreak to the point that SD has to wash down sidewalks even in East County with BLEACH. Most "hobbyists" have had all their HEP vaccines but still not worth taking a chance. Even riding the SD to Tijuana trolley you can catch Hep A from your hands after touching a support bar, seat or whatever. Hep A can live on objects for MONTHS.

    Not directing the Hep info at you personally, just felt the rest of the community needs to be aware.

    Again, thanks for the report, glad it worked out for you.

  14. #5251

    My quarterly adventure form TX

    I was done for my once every three to four months trip to Tijuana. I found hotter girls to be available in the early afternoon than in the morning, but for the most part a better value for the peso can be had in the alley vs clubs. After a few sessions I was strooling along the alley just checking out the sights. A girl in her 30's, a bit over weight, and appearing like a walker comes up to me. Her english is very good and she offers an hour long massage plus everything else and even offers to spend the night. I'm sore after sitting on a plane for three hours and think it may be ok but not for a few hours. She asks how much I will pay and I say the going rate is 300 - 400. She agrees and says she will come up to my room in two hours at Cascadas. I take a short nap and head out about 1. 5 hours later. She is across the street and comes up to me. I decide a good massage and BJ might do a body good. She looked much better with her clothes off although nothing great. She proceeds to provide a very nice massage for at least an hour. Then a nice BJ. The condom is applied and up on top she goes. To my suprise she is very tight, I expected to slip in without hitting the sides. After a few positions I finish up and she wants to spend the night. I was not really into that and told her I needed to get some sleep. She was a very nice girl and we did talk for a while but when I'm done with a girl, I'm done! She gets up and jumps in the shower, I lay 400 pesos down and hand it to her after she dries off and gets dressed. She looks confused and said "I thought you meant $400. Really!! I said the going rate is 300 pesos. She let me know she was new to Tijuana but had gotten about 800 pesos from other guys. I give her an additional 100 pesos and we both laugh a little about the misunderstanding. She thought she hit a lucky payday. For her looks, she was not nearly worth anything over 400 pesos an hour but she was a very nice girl and provided excellent service and was fun to be with. Once again I can't remember a name but I even considered a repeat. BTW she was into anal play for those who are into that. She was also into DATY but my tounge was still tired from the Tropicals girl. Have fun and sometimes taking a chance on a not so hot girl pays off.

  15. #5250

    Mexican Independence Day Saturday September 16th

    Headed down to Tijuana on a busy afternoon. Parked at my usual spot in San Ysidro behind the Jack in the Crack and noticed that the parking fee has gone up from $7 to $12 for 8 hours on weekends. Attendant told me that the price went up about a month or so ago. The area was bustling for the Mexican holiday. Exchange rate near the McDonald and Trolley averaged 17.2 pesos per 1 USD. Got my pesos. There were so many people crossing in to Mexico that Mexican Immigration didn't post bother to stop anyone for documentation, they just let everyone walk right on in. Caught a taxi to the Arch for only 50 pesos and noticed a lot of Policia activity near the Arch. I went to Piri Pharmacy to reup on Sildenafil and bottled water. Some of the best prices IMO. The Zona was pretty lively. Went to HK for pre-game and avoided Policia activity. Afterwards I took a stroll around the blocks to do some recon. There were lots of Street Girls out, more than usual. School girl corner had a pretty good line up. I seen a chica that I did before but this was a fresh meat mission for me. With the amount of Street Girls out in the area I knew that I had to make several rounds on the blocks to fully assess the theatre of operations. After several rounds I stopped and talked to Claudia from the the. F. She was a sweet flaca with an inviting personality, always smiling with that innocent look. We agreed on 250 pesos sin ropa, damage for the cuarto was 50 pesos and less than average. Some of these rooms are pitiful. After undressing (bushy kitty) she started out with an average hand job to get a rise staring enthusiastically at my Johnson. Started out in mish then to perrito and back to mish for a pop. She took it very well and the kitty felt right. No complaints except for the room. After some small talk we cleaned up with wipes, no running water in room and got dressed, exchanged info and went our separate ways. As I walked around the corner I seen 2 policia have a ratero punk in trouble. One had the ratero in a choke hold while the other was getting control of his hands. Ultimately they had him in handcuffs and lead him away. Then I went to the corner for some of my favorite taco. Always good! After eating I headed back to HK for some halftime activities. Got a double X beer and headed upstairs where they had the shaving cream show near barra 2. Nice naked chicas doing their thing. They had a poor gringo stripped down to his boxers in the stage having their way with him. LOL. After the show I had some fun with the chicas on stage, touching, rubbing, fingering their tight holes. Cleaned up with a towel I walked around tipping chicas, sucking tits, rubbing, grabbing ass, fondling, etc for propina. Finally headed back to the alley for another recon mission. Ran into a hot spinner named Maribel with a playful smile. We agreed on 250 pesos sin ropa. Cuarto was 80 pesos upstairs. First room had no lights so went to a 2nd room. Fan was broken and the bed was in shambles. Pitiful and substandard. Session was so so but didn't fully enjoy myself. Bed springs hurt my knees and was noisy. Room was hot and uncomfortable. Popped in mish and was glad to be out of there. Will not return to that hotel. Then went to Plaza Cecelia to watch some entertainment and get some souvenirs. Walked back down and hopped in a cab and got dropped off at the old border. Only 5 people in front of me. After a few minutes I was back in the USA. This trip was OK, not the best but OK.

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