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  1. #25420

    Not quite so simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.
    Over 45 years of mongering, I've put some thought to this topic of "overpaying". Since the end of the V'Nam war, I've seen a lot of good places come and go, mostly do to wealthy gringos who destroy.

    The foreign economy and cause a nightmare situation for the local guys.

    I barter hard to get the same prices as locals for anything I buy. I'm more than happy to walk away from any deal (pussy or street food) if I think I'm being overcharged because I'm a foreigner.

    I resent that and an unwilling to mess up the existing economy.

    On the other hand, in my mind, tipping is a whole different matter. It is separate from the original transaction as the price had already been established and I feel I had won out. If I feel I've had exceptionally.

    Great service or am just feeling generous that day, I usually give a good tip. I feel really good about that as I have been very blessed in my life and tossing an extra $5 or 10 their way is no BFD to me at all.

    This system has these benefits:

    1) The negotiated price is fair and reasonable. I'm not paying more because I'm a gringo, farang, foreigner bule or whatever. It doesn't hurt the local guy and the girl expects to continue to agree to that amount in the future.

    2) The tip system incentivises the girl to perform well and to please. I don't mind at all if I'm getting extra good service because she hope to get a tip. That is a "beautiful thing" as long as it is not negotiated.

    3) The next time a fellow like me comes along, that young lady will try extra hard for him. This sets a good precedence for my fellow countrymen.

    4) It rewards good behavior. Better that the girl delivers well than becomes a shrewd negotiator.

    5) It helps to keep the buyer in control. The tip happens after the deed thus she gets no extra benefits until the end when the client is fully satisfied.

    If we all used this system, we'd have much better experiences in these "lands of opportunity".

  2. #25419
    With Facebook girls 100% are collecting 2 to 3 times the cost of casa girls and 50% more than strip club girls. So, it's basically a wash in terms of cost. If time has no value, then the Facebook girls are probably a better value. There is much less waiting and wondering with casa and strip club girls.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    The casa and strip club girls have all learned that guys will pay from 20 - 50 k more for BBBJ, so they mostly insist on it. I've never paid for it, because it's not worth it to me. With Facebook girls about 75% have gone to the BBBJ without hesitation.

  3. #25418
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.
    When a girl looks this happy to see me the next time I feel like I am doing something right.

    As always, YMMV.
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  4. #25417
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.
    I like to be generous while on vacation, especially to the poorer Barrio girls in Centro. Asking for $7 change would be distasteful / cheap to me and I have no problem giving them 50 k the next time.

  5. #25416
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf662  [View Original Post]
    If some Centro chick quotes me 30 k and does a great enthusiastic job, I have no problem giving her 50 k, the 20 k is only $7 dollars to me, the price of a QTR pounder meal at McD's but it means a lot to a poor barrio girl. And she is happy to see me the next time I pass by and has even more enthusiasm. I think $17 is a more fair deal for everybody, YMMV.
    So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.
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  6. #25415
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.
    If some Centro chick quotes me 30 k and does a great enthusiastic job, I have no problem giving her 50 k, the 20 k is only $7 dollars to me, the price of a QTR pounder meal at McD's but it means a lot to a poor barrio girl. And she is happy to see me the next time I pass by and has even more enthusiasm. I think $17 is a more fair deal for everybody, YMMV.
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  7. #25414
    Call me crazy but when I go to the trouble of negotiating a price, I want that to be the price. If that makes me a dickhead, I am fine with that. Fools and their money are soon parted, of course, whereas I have toured the world quite effectively using my basic negotiating strategy of if we agree on X, it is X, y punto.

  8. #25413
    Quote Originally Posted by HasideasTao  [View Original Post]
    I have said before, there are plenty of girls in medellin who will accept 150 and even 100. If you are chatting up chicas who primarily deal with tourists, negotiating lower prices will be more difficult.
    There are plenty who will accept 30 k also. IE $10 US. My last trip the most fun girl I was with was 30 k, tongue down my throat in the elevator before we even got to my room, BBBJ, passionate, etc, cute, petite, no body fat. She was such a Raver chick though she may have been rolling on Molly (MDMA / Ecstasy) for all I know.

  9. #25412
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.
    You never want to tarnish your moniker, do you?

  10. #25411
    I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.

  11. #25410
    Quote Originally Posted by HasideasTao  [View Original Post]
    Its more about where you meet them then about who they are.

    In my experience, the girls found at higher priced venues tend to have more rules and be less flexible with their service.

    Energy is still open. 125 for half hour. 150 for an hour.

    I have said before, there are plenty of girls in medellin who will accept 150 and even 100. If you are chatting up chicas who primarily deal with tourists, negotiating lower prices will be more difficult.

    Photoprepagos and Mileroticos to name a few, in my opinion offer great value! Especially to someone with little experience in Medellin.
    Your fourth paragraph is key. Once a chica has dealt with tourists who will tip her for "extras" such as BBBJ, it becomes almost automatic that she won't do it without a tip. The tip may be small (10 or 20 mil), but she expects something.

    I used to always get BBBJ in Energy without asking. But the swarms of tourists have changed that.

  12. #25409
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf662  [View Original Post]
    It's funny, Energy is the only place in MED where I had a bad session. Now that was only one visit and I am sure another chick might have been great but the girl I was with rubbed my junk down with some kind of disinfectant that burned and then kept her hand in the way to prevent full penetration. Had much more fun with the 30 k Centro street chicks I have seen.
    I'm assuming the disinfectant was a prelude to BBBJ in which case I would not mind as it would soon be cooled and the heat followed by the cooling would make for a good experience. As for the holding the condom, when that happens I try to go for CIM if available or negotiable.

  13. #25408
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    The casa and strip club girls have all learned that guys will pay from 20 - 50 k more for BBBJ, so they mostly insist on it. I've never paid for it, because it's not worth it to me. With Facebook girls about 75% have gone to the BBBJ without hesitation.
    Can you give me some help with the Facebook girls. I have heard great things about Medellin girls however I don't eve and ow how to get started. I will be going back to Mde quite often. Thanks.

  14. #25407
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    I recently came back from mde and went to new life 3 x. I read a lot of guys getting BBBJ all the time but that was not the case for me at all. Is this something you have to negotiate?

    I took a girl from la Isla and Fase dos and all the same. Only CBJ. My hygiene is excellent and I am an above average to good looking guy 40 years old. So I'm just wondering maybe go for the less hotter girls?
    Its more about where you meet them then about who they are.

    In my experience, the girls found at higher priced venues tend to have more rules and be less flexible with their service.

    Energy is still open. 125 for half hour. 150 for an hour.

    I have said before, there are plenty of girls in medellin who will accept 150 and even 100. If you are chatting up chicas who primarily deal with tourists, negotiating lower prices will be more difficult.

    Photoprepagos and Mileroticos to name a few, in my opinion offer great value! Especially to someone with little experience in Medellin.

  15. #25406

    Speaking of write offs.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Anyone with an endless supply of money feel free to toss about $50 k USD my way. I'll even provide a very sincere receipt for your charitable donation so you can deduct it.
    So I was thinking about starting a business in Medellin for business travelers that would include a orientation meeting and tour of the city with some history and other networking meetings designed for brainstorming and inspiration on how to grow your business network, financial strategies and business development skills. Reciepts and schedule of meetings and events provided. Would anyone be interested in this?

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