Medellin Reports

[Balboa]

Wolff662, you strike me as being not only a happy person but also as human, unlike your critics on this board. How miserable must someone be who would get good service from a poor chica and cannot afford to give her a US $7. 00 tip!

I agree!

Happy times brotha!

[Balboa]

Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.

Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.

The gringo invasion began many moons ago, the prices have not skyrocketed.

Many good deals to be had, especially if you know what you're doing.

[Balboa]

Call me crazy but when I go to the trouble of negotiating a price, I want that to be the price. If that makes me a dickhead, I am fine with that. Fools and their money are soon parted, of course, whereas I have toured the world quite effectively using my basic negotiating strategy of if we agree on X, it is X, y punto.

I'm sure your system works.

And you get to save a few bucks, and get to be a Dickhead, LOL.

I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.

Plus it makes me feel good.

Of course if a girl performs just normally, goes thru the motions, she gets paid the negotiated x amount.

If she then asks for a tip, I explain that a tip is to be earned, and we'll see next time.

Motivation.

I know some guys are cold hearted mongers and wouldn't tip no matter what or how a girl performed, and that's fine if that's their deal.

It's not mine.

Cheers.

[Balboa]

Over 45 years of mongering, I've put some thought to this topic of "overpaying". Since the end of the V'Nam war, I've seen a lot of good places come and go, mostly do to wealthy gringos who destroy.

The foreign economy and cause a nightmare situation for the local guys.

I barter hard to get the same prices as locals for anything I buy. I'm more than happy to walk away from any deal (pussy or street food) if I think I'm being overcharged because I'm a foreigner.

I resent that and an unwilling to mess up the existing economy.

On the other hand, in my mind, tipping is a whole different matter. It is separate from the original transaction as the price had already been established and I feel I had won out. If I feel I've had exceptionally.

Great service or am just feeling generous that day, I usually give a good tip. I feel really good about that as I have been very blessed in my life and tossing an extra $5 or 10 their way is no BFD to me at all.

This system has these benefits:

1) The negotiated price is fair and reasonable. I'm not paying more because I'm a gringo, farang, foreigner bule or whatever. It doesn't hurt the local guy and the girl expects to continue to agree to that amount in the future.

2) The tip system incentivises the girl to perform well and to please. I don't mind at all if I'm getting extra good service because she hope to get a tip. That is a "beautiful thing" as long as it is not negotiated.

3) The next time a fellow like me comes along, that young lady will try extra hard for him. This sets a good precedence for my fellow countrymen.

4) It rewards good behavior. Better that the girl delivers well than becomes a shrewd negotiator.

5) It helps to keep the buyer in control. The tip happens after the deed thus she gets no extra benefits until the end when the client is fully satisfied.

If we all used this system, we'd have much better experiences in these "lands of opportunity".

Experience talks!

My experience tells me the same!

Thanks!

[Wolf662]

And besides that, hasn't Wolf said that half those chicks are drug addicts anyway? You act like you are contributing to her college fund. The dopeman thanks you for your generous contribution.

No I have not said. As far as I can tell none of them I have met are unless you count smoking weed. Some of the strippers I have met have been coke heads but the street girls I have hung out with have been bright eyed and bushy tailed. I have experience in the US with opiate addicts, crack heads, meth users, zanex queens, etc, I know the signs.

[Mr Enternational]

Wolff662, you strike me as being not only a happy person but also as human, unlike your critics on this board. How miserable must someone be who would get good service from a poor chica and cannot afford to give her a US $7. 00 tip!

It is amazing how the point can just fly over people's heads. It has nothing to do with some made up happiness level or not being able to afford something. As the man said, if them being so poor was such a big issue to you, you would go around handing out money without fucking them. But I guess they have not fallen to that level of poordom yet. And besides that, hasn't Wolf said that half those chicks are drug addicts anyway? You act like you are contributing to her college fund. The dopeman thanks you for your generous contribution.

[Turgid]

When a girl looks this happy to see me the next time I feel like I am doing something right.

As always, YMMV.

Wolff662, you strike me as being not only a happy person but also as human, unlike your critics on this board. How miserable must someone be who would get good service from a poor chica and cannot afford to give her a US $7. 00 tip!

[Surfer500]

Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.

Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.

I believe most of the members of this board don't partake in the El Centro street girls as they either don't have the language skills or the stomach for the scene there. As far as what Wolf did, I do the same when I find a gem I want to repeat with. As far as pricing inflation, there are not a lot of tourists in El Centro banging street girls so the prices are not going to be screwed up there like you think.

[Wolf662]

Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.

Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.

I have done that also, saw my girlie Louisa when I was showing PolloNegro around, she said she was hungry so I gave her 20 k and went on with the tour.

[Chaman]

Hello,

I juts want to share my experience at Medellin, not much to report.

Walking street girls neer la Iglesia de Veracruz, disappointing, really there were like 50 women, no one over a 5. Maybe one girl that was inside a house, but I did not enter to have a closer look. Nothing there.

Fase II, also maybe lots of 5, some 6's one or two 7 and one 8, but that girl was very busy with one guy and not available. So had to move on.

I just went to one spa, that is the worst spa, I really was advise by someone here not to go, but it was close to the hotel, the secret spa, and I should have heard the advise. Just 4 girls, but all less than a 5 really. Don't go there.

The only place I found a nice girl was at gusto, and a couple of nice girls there, that is the only place I would recommend, prices start at 200 USD, but most get down to 400 K or 300 K COP.

[Kazeu]

Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.

Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.

If some Centro chick quotes me 30 k and does a great enthusiastic job, I have no problem giving her 50 k, the 20 k is only $7 dollars to me, the price of a QTR pounder meal at McD's but it means a lot to a poor barrio girl. And she is happy to see me the next time I pass by and has even more enthusiasm. I think $17 is a more fair deal for everybody, YMMV.

[LVMonger]

I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.

Over 45 years of mongering, I've put some thought to this topic of "overpaying". Since the end of the V'Nam war, I've seen a lot of good places come and go, mostly do to wealthy gringos who destroy.

The foreign economy and cause a nightmare situation for the local guys.

I barter hard to get the same prices as locals for anything I buy. I'm more than happy to walk away from any deal (pussy or street food) if I think I'm being overcharged because I'm a foreigner.

I resent that and an unwilling to mess up the existing economy.

On the other hand, in my mind, tipping is a whole different matter. It is separate from the original transaction as the price had already been established and I feel I had won out. If I feel I've had exceptionally.

Great service or am just feeling generous that day, I usually give a good tip. I feel really good about that as I have been very blessed in my life and tossing an extra $5 or 10 their way is no BFD to me at all.

This system has these benefits:

1) The negotiated price is fair and reasonable. I'm not paying more because I'm a gringo, farang, foreigner bule or whatever. It doesn't hurt the local guy and the girl expects to continue to agree to that amount in the future.

2) The tip system incentivises the girl to perform well and to please. I don't mind at all if I'm getting extra good service because she hope to get a tip. That is a "beautiful thing" as long as it is not negotiated.

3) The next time a fellow like me comes along, that young lady will try extra hard for him. This sets a good precedence for my fellow countrymen.

4) It rewards good behavior. Better that the girl delivers well than becomes a shrewd negotiator.

5) It helps to keep the buyer in control. The tip happens after the deed thus she gets no extra benefits until the end when the client is fully satisfied.

If we all used this system, we'd have much better experiences in these "lands of opportunity".

[Knowledge]

With Facebook girls 100% are collecting 2 to 3 times the cost of casa girls and 50% more than strip club girls. So, it's basically a wash in terms of cost. If time has no value, then the Facebook girls are probably a better value. There is much less waiting and wondering with casa and strip club girls.

The casa and strip club girls have all learned that guys will pay from 20 - 50 k more for BBBJ, so they mostly insist on it. I've never paid for it, because it's not worth it to me. With Facebook girls about 75% have gone to the BBBJ without hesitation.

[Wolf662]

So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.

When a girl looks this happy to see me the next time I feel like I am doing something right.

As always, YMMV.

[Wolf662]

So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.

I like to be generous while on vacation, especially to the poorer Barrio girls in Centro. Asking for $7 change would be distasteful / cheap to me and I have no problem giving them 50 k the next time.