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[Slowalk]

Nearly 20 years ago, I would stop in Dagupan on my way to Baguio. There were some very inexpensive go go bars and the quality was overall pretty good. I haven't been to the PI since 2001. I stayed there for 9 months. I could go to "The Province. " and pretty much take up with anyone I wanted. After the 2nd meet, Pinay get pretty primed. Wet little creatures they are. After that, pros didn't do it for me.

I can't say anymore that its even there but, I preferred Dagupan to Cebu because it was less commercialized.

[TaiyuanGuy]

Did short trip in June and short answer is don't bother.

Oh damn. Really loved the small paradise there.

This was the best combination of diving and mongering that I have ever seen in the Philippines. Or any country.

Olongapo / Subic bay went down the drain in my opinion.

Cebu / Angeles was maybe not bad about the ladies but everything else pretty much lacking.

Manila is also not really a Mecca of diving and too pricy compared to the other places anywhere.

Any other experiences for a combination of diving + mongering would be highly appreciated, does not have to be in the Philippines.

Most of the other places seemed to focus more on one of these two.

Thanks for the Intel anyway.

[Member #4563]

Did short trip in June and short answer is don't bother.

Sabang become very congested look as it cover with some kind of cement as they build everywhere. I tried to use Wechat but 100 percent ladyboys. Some use real girls photos but when I asked them to bring ID they walk away from the meeting.

Walking around and saw nothing at all day and night. New 7-11 store successfully beat all other stores in price as there is not alternative for Hot cappuccino, water meals etc.

White beach was dead completely, absolutely nothing. I stay in a place for 900 php in Sabang and 1000 in WB.

I also visited angeles and Manila. Next time I will use dating sites. The bus back to manila had WIFI as its seems the norm in all busses. So the little paradise is gone comparing my previous experiences there.

[TaiyuanGuy]

Appreciate the report of situation, busydiver!

Midnight being closed is a bit of a shame. Always has been one of my favorites.

About the "cupid lips" - is it a typo of "Coco lips" or is this a place that is new?

If new, in the same street as all the other bars?

[BusyDiver]

Been there in the beginning of May. Hope that is recent enough.

If you have been there last year some things changed:

Midnight moved closer to the other bars, it is now directly next to the stairs to the former Disco (which was upstairs, forgot the name).

The former disco seems now to be a "normal ladybar" too.

Some of the establishments raised their prices to 4000 Pesos.

Basically: Getting more expensive. Some changes. But still alive.

Since I am considering to go there again this year: Let us know what is going on there (change-wise and how it is in the. According to my knowledge - "off season".

I am here now and of course it is very quiet compared to Feb 2018 on my last trip. The place upstairs is Quantum but it appeared with business down Midnight was closed so everyone went upstairs to Quantumm. I stopped into Philiipine Disco and a place called Cupid Lips. Again it is more quiet less Koreans running around raising prices. I had a BF from Cupid Lips last night and it as 3000 K so that is the same as it was over a year ago. I am not sure if Quantum is higher as I was not interested there. The ladies at Cupid lips tended to be a bit older and I prefer that anyway. For sure it is really quiet and to be honest I kinda like it.

The BF I had was sweet and not over the top attitude and stayed the night. Was nice and sweet but only had one pop and then I past out from the 4 dives during the day. She wasn't interested for another round in the morning so that was a disappointment. Had breakfast together and then she headed out.

I did see a few others in Cupid Lips that were a bit more slutty so I may try one of them before I head out the end of the week. Will post another update after my trip is over.

[Kabul Guy]

You are absolutely correct. People who complain about things not being what they used to be, are actually trying to recapture their initial experiences. You can't really do that. And there is no need to. They are more mongering destinations than you can shake a stick at.

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In 2038 today's newbies will be posting.

"Back in 2018, those were the good old days, it's nothing like that now, . ".

And in 2058 those 2038 newbies will be saying.

"Back in 2038, those were the good old days, it's nothing like that now, . ".

[TaiyuanGuy]

I know Sabang is not the number 1 spot for hunting but I go there first for the diving and then playtime. Just wondering if anyone has been there in the last month or so any changes to the bars that are open or closed. Probably same story on the Koreans, other comments that you would care to add.

Thanks in advance.

Been there in the beginning of May. Hope that is recent enough.

If you have been there last year some things changed:

Midnight moved closer to the other bars, it is now directly next to the stairs to the former Disco (which was upstairs, forgot the name).

The former disco seems now to be a "normal ladybar" too.

Some of the establishments raised their prices to 4000 Pesos.

Basically: Getting more expensive. Some changes. But still alive.

Since I am considering to go there again this year: Let us know what is going on there (change-wise and how it is in the. According to my knowledge - "off season".

[BusyDiver]

I know Sabang is not the number 1 spot for hunting but I go there first for the diving and then playtime. Just wondering if anyone has been there in the last month or so any changes to the bars that are open or closed. Probably same story on the Koreans, other comments that you would care to add.

Thanks in advance.

[WestCoast1]

WC,

I'm headed over in couple of months. I would love to meet that meaty box below.

Schokolat: When you get full PM function, contact me there.

W.

[Schokolat]

Medical school is worth a response.

Woodstock Resto / Bar is on the Acquino highway, halfway between Gaisano Mall and the McDo on Montilla Blvd, at corner Ochoa Ave. Its a large place that is filled on the weekends with locals. Live band set / disco music set / repeat nightly. I doubt you will find freelancers there, just lots of locals drinking / dancing. There are some slightly more upscale videoke bars, but you don't find freelancers there either. Not much more in Butuan. On occasion I've been "Pssst!" from a girl on the street in the evening; once near Urios, and once between Robinson's and Dotties. Another time a young cutie (18-19-ish, form-fitting hip-hugger dress) brazenly chatted me up mid-day on the jeepney from that McDo on Montilla, along the highway, to Robinson's; so brazenly that she tried to invite herself into Robinson's with me when I said I was going to meet someone (one of my regulars) for noon tea. I say 'brazen' because she was clearly trying to get me to agree to let her hang around with me, and doing that in the province on a public jeep is a no-no. "Where you stay?" Right there, at Dottie's Hotel. "Ohh so nice hotel.

WC,

I'm headed over in couple of months. I would love to meet that meaty box below.

[Eszpresszo]

I wonder if part of the subjective deterioration stems from our own maturation. Many places seem like candy shops when we first experience them, but after some point we realize that life's box of chocolates actually contains a limited variety of flavors. There's a great line delivered by Christopher Plummer in the movie **Hector and the Search for Happiness**, in which he declares that the happiness of pursuit is a more practical undertaking than the pursuit of happiness.

You are absolutely correct. People who complain about things not being what they used to be, are actually trying to recapture their initial experiences. You can't really do that. And there is no need to. They are more mongering destinations than you can shake a stick at.

It was 2 and a half years ago, that I got serious about mongering. It wasn't my first time. I'd lived in Germany, the UK and then in New York and I learned how sex could be bought. But, I was also young and usually found it more appealing to get it for free. That comes from being young. In the aftermath of my divorce and I've never gone to the same mongering destination twice in a row. There are too many new places to try. I first went to visit an old friend living in Berlin, which by chance happened to be the sex capital of Germany (though the FKK enthusiasts on ISG have not figured that out). It was new beginning and an alternative to trying to start dating American women again. Shortly afterwards, I visited Medellin, then later that year I visited Thailand, and then the DR. Last March I mongered in Kuala Lumpur and then onto Bali. Its all been a fun experience, and I've never been disappointed with any of trips, despite a few sub-par providers. It always a new experience when I go somewhere new. There are no previous experiences to compare the adventure to. And its always a thrill to try a different nationality of women, eat different food (except in Colombia), and drink different beers.

So, I am surprised so many guys keep going back to their old haunts, Pattaya, AC or the FKK clubs. What I do notice where disappointment is most often expressed is places like those, with a low-barrier to entry, easy accessible to English speakers and minimal requirements to adhere to local social norms. But, when things are so easy and there is limited risk, you are going to get bored or disappointed. That said, if you are unhappy with your last to AC or anywhere else, I think it pretty obvious what you need to do next.

[Soapy Smith]

Most places have deteriorated over the years, at least subjectively.

I wonder if part of the subjective deterioration stems from our own maturation. Many places seem like candy shops when we first experience them, but after some point we realize that life's box of chocolates actually contains a limited variety of flavors. There's a great line delivered by Christopher Plummer in the movie **Hector and the Search for Happiness**, in which he declares that the happiness of pursuit is a more practical undertaking than the pursuit of happiness.

[Dg8787]

Any place anywhere has its positives and negatives. Most places have deteriorated over the years, at least subjectively. They are no longer like our memories tell us what they were before.

Baguio has been a retreat from the heat and 3rd worldness for me. I will be back to naughty pleasure in a few days fully recharged.

[Soapy Smith]

I think Baguio has slipped dramatically in the past 10 years. It used to be paradise, and is still called Manila's summer capital. Nowadays I find the city center around the park to be noisy and full of jeepney fumes, and as more and more cars appear and they remove more trees to build high rises it will deteriorate further. Some magnificent old trees were ripped out to build the new SM.

I think the deterioration has been happening for much more than ten years. I was guided there 11 years ago by Filipino friends, and they said at the time that the numbers of big pine trees had been reduced dramatically from years past. What struck me were new buildings going up everywhere, including on near impossible building sites on steep hillsides. At the time there were still a few of the old pale yellow wooden military buildings from the old R&R days at John Hay. They had divided them into multiple units and were renting them out as vacation lodging. I would be surprised if they still exist. My photos of them were a big hit at home since my father-in-law (whom I never knew) had been stationed there in medical rehab in the waning days of WWII.

[Kabul Guy]

My first time here. Love the clean fresh air, TREES and mountains. Previous outside blogs warned about bad winding roads to Baguio. Not true at all. Took the first class Victory Liner bus for 780 pesos on Labor Day holiday from Manila. 3 hours and 45 minutes later we are there non stop. First class has CR on board.
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Try the road to the coast in La Union. Very windy and not at all fun in the dark.

Not much of a bar scene that I could find but lots of women on SA and Tinder. It may take some work but I'd bet you could set up a nice scholarship / live in arrangement with a student.