East China - Shanghai

[Dex Xie]

Late report.

Went to Judy's with Taz, the environment is not really my thing. Checked out with a Viet girl named Tina for 2 K LT. Very GFE, which was quite nice. That said, if anyone PM's me and wants to go to Judy's Manhattan's, I'd still be up for it.

Going to try some more QQ girls, as there are tons in XuJiaHui area. Prices are usually 400-600/ p, which doesn't seem bad.

I do agree with the consensus that Saunas prices are too high. They've reached the prices of Judy/Manhattan's for ST. They have a low entry price (say 898), but realistically, only a few girls are of that price, and the upsell to higher quality girls is there. If anyone knows a sauna with a fixed price, PM me. If SH prices continue their upward trajectory, then I wouldn't be surprised if we see an exodus similar to Koreans to AC.

IMO, girls charging >1500 ST seems questionable. You literally get better prices in the US (bay area) and better service.

[Idlediode]

I am new here was visiting Shanghai & was looking to have some Fun, I have been reading the forum for a week now lot of useful info to ponder upon. During my last visit in August 17 I was living at Nanjing Street, Howard Johnson Plaza & Enjoyed some Massages & HJ in Spa's on the street behind. 198 RMB + 100 for HJ That was my First Experience. I got smarter & managed to get a Foot Massage at 60 RMB + HJ for additional 50 RMB enjoyed excellent Oil massage 3rd Day at 198 + HJ + BJ for 150 extra.

Wondering what's the scene now? Looking for suggestions for FS ideally not at MPs. I have managed to get a few direct contacts of Girls from nightlife & spoken to them asking 1200 -1500 for 1 HR ST in my hotel room.

1. Is it safe to call them over to your current Hotel.

2. Can you guys share some more contacts for FS & Good Erotic massages with B2B & Shower + HJ?

I can share my contacts for Mumbai & Shanghai if anyone is interested but I haven't tried services in SH.

Thank you.

[Amnesia]

Went back and got a different older provider. Again, very good HJ. These old providers may have been giving HJs for over 20 years now, so they really know what to do. This lady did something with my asshole with her finger and I came hard and suddenly, without warning. Probably the most I came in years. She didn't ask for a tip. So HJs are included in the 258 lingham relief massage.

Complete waste of money this place. They leave the door open and insist you wear those massage panties. I even think the receptionist keeps checking every 15 minutes that nothing inappropriate happens (I could hear her steps). No handjob or whatsoever. Even the massage is only mediocre at best. And be prepared that your massage room with the door wide open is directly connected to the receptionist area.

I actually complained why there wasn't a handjob. The receptionist (who speaks English) apologized and explained they cannot do it because of the government. To be fair, she told me before the massage that they would have to leave the door open. I guess I should have left then. Didn't want to give a discount so. So I paid 288 RMB for 90 minutes mediocre oil massage.

Avoid this place!

[NightLife17]

Any news about what happened to the owner of Sng?

Like Midwestern said; the trial started beginning of April; he and Judy's had three court sessions so far. It's now waiting for the judge to call them up and give the verdict. His defense is he only used the internet to spread illegal information (SNG) and did not manage WG's; that was all Judy. If the judge buys it, he can get away with 2 3 years. If not, considerably longer.

[Midwestern]

Near Crowne Plaza Shanghai. I previously reported this place as being legit. I was wrong. The massage menu is legit, thus my previous error. They have a separate spa menu with 2 items, one for 398 and one for 598. The latter is 4 hands massage. Anyway, private shower, pretty decent and sensuous massage, and good and slow he. They'll ask for a tip and was always happy with 200. Yeah, it's expensive. But it was all unrushed with long buildup. I never bothered to get any of the girls' number, as I haven't gotten a hot one yet.

I haven't back to this place in a while, mostly because the last time I went I had to refuse 3 not-so-pretty girls before I eventually walked out. But today, my GF suddenly got her period, and I was horny, so I decided to go back to this place today. Saw most of the girls as they were getting ready to open at 11:30 am, and it looks like there was a lot of turnover, and for the better. Several attractive girls. Again, I got the 398 RMB spa massage, and it was sensuous with lots of attention to groin, ass, balls, and shaft, for most of the entire session. Then she laid next to me and cuddled while she finished me off. Tipped 200, and she was thrilled. My provider was tall and pretty, but I didn't ask for her number. I want to see who else is available there. I guess I like this place more than Spring. At Spring, they try to give you a legit massage before the he, and the legit massage usually sucks.

[Midwestern]

Any news about what happened to the owner of Sng?

I heard from a reliable source that Steven's trial began during the first week of April. But I haven't heard anything since then.

[Marcelo26]

Any news about what happened to the owner of Sng?

[Amnesia]

Any sauna / spa / massage in Shanghai with extra service (HJ, BJ, 69, FS)? Been hiking the last days and just need some relax time. Is China really that dead?

[TechAdv76]

This report will be most helpful for people with fair Chinese skills although some English-only speakers may also be able to use of what's here. This past trip to SH is not really for mongering as SH isn't really a terribly good destination for that, but I had a few days and nights where I could head out and explore. I will not be talking about Manhattan and Judy's here. Overall the government is currently trying to suppress the P4P scene for Chinese locals. It's still there but just less overt and more expensive.

I would recommend downloading some Chinese apps on your smartphone before going. Maybe not surprisingly, a VPN is not needed since the options I'm talking about are all available to local Chinese.

1. WeChat. Most Chinese guys should already have this. This is for communicating with apartment girls and for those with weaker Chinese, like me, it has an English interface.

2. QQ. Don't get the international version, which hasn't been updated for several years. The regular QQ app doesn't have an English interface so it could be troublesome to navigate if your Chinese is basic or non-existent. Unfortunately most apartment girls will only have QQ and not WeChat..

Great info, thanks much! I am veteran Shanghai biz visitor from USA, but have not been there since crackdown. Hopefully things will loosen up and prices will decline since I always look forward to my relaxation in Shanghai after the long flight, crazy airport, traffic, etc. Sure miss SNG as it was a one stop shop for us short timers to get back up to speed on the latest and greatest offerings. My only advice is stick to tried and true, since my few forays off the beaten path have been near disastrous in all respects. Cheers!

[Midwestern]

Decided to be adventurous to see if I could luckily stumble upon a hidden gem. Rode a bicycle around for a couple of hours and found myself on Ya'an road, near Longemont hotel. Behind the hotel there are 2 spa / massage places. Tried the one next to Naan Cat Coffee. Chose the 90 minute oil massage for 388. It was one of the most sensuous massages I've ever gotten. First on the chest. Then when I'm on my back there was lots of ass and groin massage. Then turned over again for entirely balls and shaft massage. I was in heaven. But then suddenly she said she was finished, with no release! I asked about extras, and HJ, and she said there's none of that at their place and said goodbye. This is not the first time this has happened to me. Wtf?

[Tommy Goat]

Has anyone tried a take-out from the dodgey looking bar opposite Judy's? It's never very full and so I am wary of going with any of the girls there. I've seen one or two stunners who I would definitely go with if the price was right, but my gut instinct tells me there's a scam going on somewhere there.

Any advice my fellow mongers (I am planning a visit next week, so will stick to Manhattan or Judy's unless you tell me otherwise!

OK, I've done my own research on this bar now. It's directly opposite Judy's and has about 6-8 girls hanging around. Usually a couple near the door and the rest near the bar. It strikes me as odd that it's so quiet, but a welcome break from the constant jar ranging you get in Judy's or Manhattan. I went in for drink last Thursday and here's my report.

First, the warning should be in the prices: 60 RMB each (. Makes Manhattan look good value! Immediately you get surrounded by two or three girls eager to say Hello, chat and "spend time" with. I met three nice enough Chinese girls. Two were a 6, one (Amy) was a 7/8. If Amy had been in her own she'the have pulled and I would definitely have scored. She was cheeky, sexy and fun even if a bit too small and petite for my liking. Fortunately for my wallet though her friends wouldn't leave us alone and they managed to get me suspicious of the place.

Sign No. 2 that something wasn't right was when they kept asking me to go away from the bar and to sit with just them. I was asked to play pool, to sit and chat, to play cards, etc etc. Anything to get me "engaged" with them socially.

Sign No. 3 the bar was reluctant to take my money. I like the pay-as-you-go principle to stop me from being fleeced. They however were very quick to offer me a tab.

Lastly the girls keep asking me for drinks, perhaps not Amy who was intent on rubbing her body up and down the side of my arm, leg or whatever, but certainly the others seemed to have a "business approach" to our chats!

I got the hint and quickly made my excuses. It was late and I promised to meet them all at 8 pm the following day (. Not!

Verdict? A lucky escape, not worth going back (. Although I would have liked to have given Amy a proper try out!

In future, I'll just stick to the tried and tested places!

[Fugazi99]

And follow the well known basic rules: Never drink with more than one lady (maybe two, if you just received a bonus in the company at the same time, avoid any barfines by exchanging wechat contacts and meeting the girls in their free time, etc.

You make it look like a lot of fun. But what do you get for that kind of price? How long / how many drinks does it take to reach 1000 for instance?

[Fugazi99]

For me BBS or Saunas with going inside, choosing one, have interaction and leave 30 minutes later is no fun, you know all tastes are different.

I want to have party and fun, and on the other hand to talk to Chinese ladies who mostly speak perfect English and look very good. But to answer your question, arriving at 10 pm, leaving at 4 am, I expect a bill of 3000-4000 for drinks, kissing, touching and maybe a bit more.

You just need to be aware that nothing in life comes for free. And as I meet regular other guests from time to time, there seem to be folks that share my preference.

You make it look like a lot of fun. But what do you get for that kind of price? How long / how many drinks does it take to reach 1000 for instance?

[The Guy]

As good as usual. Sunday night means a bit less competition from Chinese fat cats for the prettier / younger targets. Found a Laotian - 7. 5, 25 yr old, no childbirth marks. Who was new to the business (I "think" I believe it), second night at Manhattan and I was (again, allegedly) her first paying client. She offered the standard 1,200/2,000 pricing. Told her I'd just pop once so less than 2 hours. Settled for 800. In any event, he seemed pretty new to it and needed to be given instructions. Decent experience.

[ShanghaiLander]

...If you want to be save just tell them that you want be be warned once you reached 1000/2000/3000/4000 etc, that's what I always do.

You make it look like a lot of fun. But what do you get for that kind of price? How long / how many drinks does it take to reach 1000 for instance?