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07-03-18 07:12 #41884
Posts: 5490Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
Thankfully for virtually everyone involved, bars get a mix of both kinds of customers and a goodly percentage of those in between.
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07-03-18 06:18 #41883
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by TimTimGuy [View Original Post]
I give general tips in case they may be of use, sometimes a bit tangential.
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07-03-18 05:53 #41882
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
Of course Long Gun is probably struggling these days since has lots of empty seats, and virtually no slim models suited to me, so I don't check it out very often. My ex slim girl had a baby and changed to be a fatty with railway tracks across the stomach and still expected me to want her, LOL. I could not recognise her at first. I bought her a sympathy drink, and made a run for it. Other talent was lacking. They probably can't afford to pay a lot for some pretty girls. They have trimmed the number of Mamasans I believe. That is a relief. I don't need them hassling me as well, since they remember me from many years ago when the bar was good.
Suzie Wong was not quite this bad when it got taken over by Baccara, at least for my type of girl spec.
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07-03-18 05:40 #41881
Posts: 303Good for you. Vote with your feet I say. Don't support a place that doesn't want your business or money.
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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07-03-18 05:33 #41880
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
The place has about 30 dancers working there. They get a salary of about 8000 baht each per month. 8000 x 30 = 240,000 baht.
The place has about 10 waitresses, bartenders and other staff. To be very very modest, let's say another 60,000 baht for the month.
Then they have to pay rent. Let's say about 200,000 baht per month.
I am sure that security and police bribes come into play as well.
I'm not even going to include the price of the drinks, electricity, etc because it's already obviously absurd to think that guys coming in and buying one drink is a good business model.
Not to mention that every dancer in the place would quit very soon since they were getting no drinks and no bar fines.
There's nothing wrong with sitting there and drinking one night all night on occasion, but to do it every time is not beneficial to the maintenance of the establishments in question.
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07-03-18 05:29 #41879
Posts: 303Hey Einsteins,
Oh I mean Smoothy. Forget about it.
I am just going to complain to management whenever I see someone man-handling a water bottle. Puts me off my game and barfining a girl. Especially if the culprits are south Asians.
Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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07-02-18 21:00 #41878
Posts: 2958Some points are flawed.
Water is not a good analogy. I suspect that bar makes more money selling water. It is not just about fixed cost as the other poster has mentioned it is high fixed cost. It is not that bar don't want one drink customer. The bar already make money on the drink you bought, they would prefer you to buy the next drink so they could make more money. There is a bar in Nana with post-ops that is known to kick out customer for not ordering more drinks.
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07-02-18 20:31 #41877
Posts: 5490Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
I realize there are anecdotes about pesky servers who appear ready to lodge a complaint with the Board of Appropriate Customer Purchasing Habits any second if you don't finish that drink post haste and order another one in less than 20-30 minutes. Ignore them. I do. They are Thai people working in a bar. They aren't exactly brilliant to begin with and possibly they are half drunk to boot.
Mind you, I am not talking about a customer who sits for hours with one drink in front of him and never purchases anything else like food. And neither did Amnesia say such a thing in that post. As I have stated elsewhere, I think there is a built-in timeframe involving assessing two 20 minute dance sets and another 20-30 minutes for possible return arrivals from earlier barfines that can justify holding off with one drink purchase for as long as just over an hour until you know there is actually a good reason provided by that bar and its very own business environment to start buying multiple drinks and Lady Drinks for potential take-out girls.
Once I had a server laugh and say something like, "This is a bar where men drink alcohol, are you a lady?" when I ordered a water instead of booze as I sat down in their nearly empty go-go bar (I think it was Shark Go-Go Bar on Soi Cowboy). I immediately stood up and said, "Oh, no problem. I'll go to another bar where they will serve me what I want," and began to walk out. That server clutched at my arm and practically begged me to please stop and come back. I didn't.
I have indeed seen a couple of customers goaded by servers after noticing those guys have been sitting there for well over 2 hours on one drink. I was sitting and chatting with one such guy at Big Dog's Bar, an outdoor beer bar at the entrance to Nana Plaza. He had one beer bottle sitting in front of him when I arrived and that same beer bottle was there about 90 minutes later. Maybe he had been nursing that one drink for well over 2 hours. Yep, the server did say something to him about it and he reacted like he was insulted. Then he paid his bill, got up and left. I don't know what would have happened if he hadn't left and hadn't ordered another drink. Maybe some bouncers would have come over and tossed him out. But I have never personally seen such a thing happen.
Originally Posted by Amnesia [View Original Post]
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07-02-18 18:52 #41876
Posts: 92Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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07-02-18 15:39 #41875
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by Wimble [View Original Post]
Amny, please let us know the day it opens, because it's not likely to make it to the 2nd day, we wouldn't want to miss it.
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07-01-18 09:09 #41874
Posts: 508Uh, Syz. ?
Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
(I normally wouldn't post a comment like this, but the ISG connection is giving me trouble and I'm sorting out what I can / cannot do with this internet). TTG.
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07-01-18 03:50 #41873
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by MusicalToM [View Original Post]
Any guy that runs up to you too eagerly is to be avoided, IMHO. They will wait till have started to exit the airport and then ask for exhorbitant fee. I have had to exit taxis outside Don Meuang on occasion when selected the wrong one.
It is also important to tell the driver that we are not Thai. Getting to the destination at the cheapest possible price avoiding tolls, is not the objective at all. The objective is to get there as fast as possible. Paying tolls is no problem. Wise to check the best route with google Maps as well. It can detect unusual traffic jams, although it does sometimes underestimate the time needed to get there. Taxi drivers can sometimes choose an unfortunate route. Of course I am lucky to be able to speak Thai, and communicate details of desired route, or remind driver where the correct freeway exit is. Some drivers make bad mistakes, whether accidental or intentional. If driver goes wrong way, must have him stop the car until can calc new best route with Google Maps, to avoid getting into progressively worse traffic jams. I had one such incident on way to Suwanaphum, when driver exited freeway at Rama IX by wrong exit, into traffic jam at Ekkamai. I had to quickly calculate a back streets route to get back on motorway. Fortunately still made it to airport on time. Hard to understand driver making bad mistakes when signs show route to airport so clearly on expressways, even if he is not familiar.
I have now had quite a number of incidents where taxis failed to take my desired exit from freeways, so I watch for this very carefully these days. Once got stuck on freeway to Pattaya, which had no exit for a long distance, because taxi failed to take On Nut exit.
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07-01-18 03:44 #41872
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by Nyezhov [View Original Post]
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06-30-18 21:13 #41871
Posts: 1439Speaking of bed restraints as well as spreader bars, ball gags and vibs. Where to buy?
Lingerie also. Helps to keep tired old John Thomas upright.
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06-30-18 19:37 #41870
Posts: 666Originally Posted by TakingChances [View Original Post]