Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.

Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?

LOL. I don't think you get it. You don't know where a chick came from before she got to you or where she goes after she leaves you. Case in point, there is a rather nice gentlemen's club in Thailand where you fuck chicks for $40 for 1 hour. I was there a couple of months ago and met a chick that said she had to go to her second job at the gogo bar at 9 pm. The price at that gogo bar is over 3 times of what it is at her day job. I reported this when it happened and a couple weeks later another monger comes along and writes a report that he met the same chick. So some guys are going to the gogo and paying the same fucking chick $130 when they could be fucking her at her day job for $40. I guess some people would rather buy into the illusion that the $130 fuck is better and has less mileage than the $40 fuck though.

Just a short report to say I told you so. I am over at Kinnaree now and my brother is sitting with a chick that also works at What's Up? She said that she has to be there at 9 to get her hair and makeup done. Haven't I always told you guys that there are chicks that work multiple venues and you are getting nothing special if you go to the most expensive? Short time here at Kinnaree is 350 for the room plus 1000 for the girl. She said at her other job barfine is 1300 plus 3000 for short time or 5000 for long time. Pick your poison. Same poison, so you are not really picking it, but because it is in a different bottle it will cost you much more.

So we decide to hit Kinaree first. Now this is a one night stand for me in Pattaya so I am aiming to go for it. I then spotted 2 more hotties and invited them over. Bit fake but what the hell I take all 3 for a foursome. Banged them all and out to the bar to relax. The 2 late choices buggered off to other guys but the cutie in the micro mini skirt sticks onto me. She works at What's Up gogo in Walking Street in the night. Ok noted... We go to What's Up as I like the girl from Kinaree. No 318 at What's Up. We find her and ask her to invite her friends for a drink but I don't fancy her friends so I just bar fine no 318 from Kinaree.

[Sangnyc21]

That is the mistake that people always make, comparing one market to another. They only do it when the visiting market is cheaper than the home market though. You don't see anyone from the US going to London and saying $500? But in the US it would be $300. Because prices in the US have shit to do with the prices in the UK.

It has never bothered me that someone pays above whatever because it does not affect what I pay. I know how to talk and bargain. I only want to inform a person that the rate is above what they could be paying. I have been saying for years that when arriving in Thailand you can go upstairs and get a taxi to Pattaya for $30. But hey, many guys still insist on booking a ride or going downstairs to get a taxi for $50. Ain't changed the $30 I pay in all these years. Had a guy come to Thailand a couple of months ago. He thanked me because his previous visit he had been paying chicks way more than what he was getting them for this time.

A few months ago I went to Cambodia with some buddies. One friend fucked a chick for $40. The next day I decided to fuck the same chick but only gave her $20. 2 days after that my buddy got the chick again, but this time told her he would only give her the same $20 that I gave her.

Frankly, I don't care at all what anyone pays; just trying to save the people that are not aware a few dollars, pounds, pesos, or what have you. Like I said before, this board is about sharing information. If someone can give me better information about anything than I already have, then I am open to accept it.

I do appreciate the info and contributions you have made. Here is my issue when I go to Colombia.

#1. My Spanish is limited.

#2. I'm asian so when I walk into any establishment I'm always going to get the worst price. I always counter but even then I'm pretty sure I am over paying for local standards.

#3. I'm only there for a limited time so if I see a girl I want I don't have the time to play the waiting game taking #s meet you when you're not working type of game.

My first trip to MDE I went to gustos. Girl asked for 300 usd for tln. I countered with 200 and we settled on 220 usd.

2nd day went to La Isla girl wanted 250 usd countered with 200 usd for tln.

3rd day went to Fase Dos girl asked for 250 and once again settled for 200 usd for 5 hours.

At this point of the trip I was not happy with any of the sessions. All were CBJ non GFE. Never really discussed service which was my mistake.

4th day went to Energy MP. 150 k COP for the session and it was fun.

Also got an escort from photoprepagos 200 k for an hour discussed services such as BBBJ and anal so thought I got a good deal.

5th day went back to energy. Once again 150 k cop for the session. Nothing great.

I do realize certain services must be negotiated (BBBJ anal etc) if not you will always get CBJ at least from my experiences.

I'm hoping my 2nd trip to MDE will be much better. My last 2 trips to Colombia I went to Bogota and I was very specific with each girl about things I wanted and realized it made all the difference.

I do appreciate all the contributions from the mde veterans here but you must remember we are only visiting for a limited time and in my case being limited in espanol and no possible way of being able to pass for a local does have its disadvantages LOL.

[Dcfan77]

Mr E is the man! Always dropping knowledge! The Bangkok. Pattaya taxi wa a big help. Listen to the man.

That is the mistake that people always make, comparing one market to another. They only do it when the visiting market is cheaper than the home market though. You don't see anyone from the US going to London and saying $500? But in the US it would be $300. Because prices in the US have shit to do with the prices in the UK.

It has never bothered me that someone pays above whatever because it does not affect what I pay. I know how to talk and bargain. I only want to inform a person that the rate is above what they could be paying. I have been saying for years that when arriving in Thailand you can go upstairs and get a taxi to Pattaya for $30. But hey, many guys still insist on booking a ride or going downstairs to get a taxi for $50. Ain't changed the $30 I pay in all these years. Had a guy come to Thailand a couple of months ago. He thanked me because his previous visit he had been paying chicks way more than what he was getting them for this time..

[Mr Enternational]

It's true that you would have paid much more than you did in the US, but I don't think that is justification for what anyone pays in Colombia or any other country.

That is the mistake that people always make, comparing one market to another. They only do it when the visiting market is cheaper than the home market though. You don't see anyone from the US going to London and saying $500? But in the US it would be $300. Because prices in the US have shit to do with the prices in the UK, the same as they have shit to do with the prices in Colombia.

It has never bothered me that someone pays above whatever because it does not affect what I pay. I know how to talk and bargain. I only want to inform a person that the rate is above what they could be paying. I have been saying for years that when arriving in Thailand you can go upstairs and get a taxi to Pattaya for $30. But hey, many guys still insist on booking a ride or going downstairs to get a taxi for $50. Ain't changed the $30 I pay in all these years. Had a guy come to Thailand a couple of months ago. He thanked me because his previous visit he had been paying chicks way more than what he was getting them for this time.

A few months ago I went to Cambodia with some buddies. One friend fucked a chick for $40. The next day I decided to fuck the same chick but only gave her $20. 2 days after that my buddy got the chick again, but this time told her he would only give her the same $20 that I gave her.

Frankly, I don't care at all what anyone pays; just trying to save the people that are not aware a few dollars, pounds, pesos, or what have you. Like I said before, this board is about sharing information. If someone can give me better information about anything than I already have, then I am open to accept it. I wasn't born with the information that I try to share. I learned it from other people and through experience the same as everyone else.

Just like a few months ago when me and my girlfriend arrived at the airport in Bogota from our trip to Armenia. I tried to get a taxi in front of the building. She said if you walk across over there the taxi will be way cheaper. I didn't cuss her out and tell her not to tell me how to spend my money. I took heed and tried to learn something that I could pass on to the next person. The taxi was like 30% cheaper than it would have been in front of the building!

[Eszpresszo]

My experience in this hobby has taught me that you don't get a better experience by overpaying. You do, however, open yourself up to risks when you throw around as much money as many locals make in a month.

Not to mention, what you get in return for overpaying is more likely to be contempt than respect or appreciation.

[JjBee62]

A man has a right to spend his $$ the way he wants to. Simple as that!

You're right, but.

If a guy is spending his money in a way that's likely to get him in bad situations, I'll suggest he change his methods. If a guy wants to go into Conejitas and start tossing $20 bills around, I'm either going to try and stop him or get the hell away from him.

I'm not up to speed on economics, but I can't see how 1 person, overpaying slightly 5 to 10 girls is going to raise the rates of 40,000 prepagos.

[Combo]

A man has a right to spend his $$ the way he wants to. Simple as that!

Absolutely. And members here have a right to offer their thoughts. No one can force you to spend or not spend a certain amount. But they can offer their opinion on what is smart and what is not.

My experience in this hobby has taught me that you don't get a better experience by overpaying. You do, however, open yourself up to risks when you throw around as much money as many locals make in a month.

[Socker]

But I'm never going to criticize people who buy brand new cars and try to make them feel bad because they drop thousands of dollars in value the moment they pull off the lot. It's none of my business.

A better one. Lets say your fellow car buyers are paying more than the asking price. Now the car dealers are going to think the asking price is too low. So your competition is unintentionally jacking up the prices.

That's what this whole topic is about. Guys are giving more than is asked or are ignorant of the going rates. That's what this board is for: to find out the who, what, where and how much.

Guys that throw money around without regard to the local market will eventually reck it. Over tipping is a different matter but can also kill the fun of others. Usually when you over tip the girl they will say nothing or a simple thank you. This is because they think you made a mistake w / the local currency and don't want to alert you to it. Over tipping is stupid but we all do it (at times) because we get too happy I guess.

There should be unity about this. You want high end, go high end. You want to bottom fish you know where to go.

[Knowledge]

It happens.

Who is paying 200 USD for a short time?

[Tiny 12]

I've been a long time member. I don't contribute much because I don't agree with the mainstream philosophy and self-rigtheousness often found. Many members are intolerant that other members think differently. I am not a professional monger nor do I want to be. There is no judgment intended in that remark. To each his own. I started my post with stating that I was posting hesitatingly. I knew there would be criticism. In the future, I'll just lurk. This is my last negative remark, it's not worth it. I am enjoying myself and spending my kajillions of dollars (I wish!) and the rest of the world be damned, haha.

Don't lurk, just ignore the criticism from the know-it-all's and the bottom feeders. 400 K is reasonable for multi hours or overnight with a low mileage semi-girlfriend hottie, like you might find on SA.

P.S. Nothing against bottom feeders, I used to be one myself. Anyone regardless of spending habits should feel comfortable posting here. Except for trannie lovers.

[MjTravelLove]

400 k for all night isn't so bad. Assuming the hourly rate is 150 k to 200 k (outside of Centro) then it seems fine to me.

That being said, you are right that it's quite a lot for Colombians. The ones who are over paying are paying 200 USD for short time. That's insane. Like paying 50 bucks for a one way subway ride.

Who is paying 200 USD for a short time?

[MjTravelLove]

You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.

Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?

Completely agree, mate! My best experiences always come from ladies who charge sliiiiiightly more than the cheapest of the bunch, but spend all night getting it on in as many ways as possible. Party, play, etc. For that, you need to do more than drop 20 USD for a 20 minute session.

To each their own, but I just wanted to back you up and say that the person who said you are ruining anything is nothing but a jacka $$.

[Sangnyc21]

You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.

Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?

I think people have to know most of us are on vacation in a foreign country. Even if we pay 200 $ for an all nighter that's insanely cheaper than the US and we get to do this with a really hot Latina. And even if the girls get spoiled for that one or 2 clients it's not like we live there to really change anything.

[Knowledge]

I agree 100% with everything you said. It's true that you would have paid much more than you did in the US, but I don't think that is justification for what anyone pays in Colombia or any other country. In all honesty I don't think what 1 or 100 guys pay will move the market in a way cheapskates like me would notice. Does anybody here really believe no one else has ever paid 400 k or much more? Of course not, and the going rate has not moved very much in recent years.

I guess I'm a weirdo. It doesn't make any difference to me what anyone else pays as long as the brother is paying with full knowledge of market rates. As I mentioned, I'm a cheapskate so if I really believed girls collecting half a million pesos via seeking arrangement would increase my costs I'm pretty sure I would try to prevent it. I just don't understand the mentality of going in on a guy because I don't want to pay as much as he does. Looking at it another way, I can afford a brand new car just like I can afford to pay European or US rates for girls anywhere in the world. I don't do either. Using the car example, I go for off lease vehicles with low mileage and a year or more of warranty left so I don't pay the 30% depreciation. But I'm never going to criticize people who buy brand new cars and try to make them feel bad because they drop thousands of dollars in value the moment they pull off the lot. It's none of my business.

I know I said I was going to shut up after my last post, but I feel I need to say this. I've been on the site long enough and see the same argument. Overpaying is ruining it for everyone. I think that's baloney. That's like saying that people that tip 25% or more in US restaurants ruin it for everyone. Plus a kajillion similar examples.

Frankly, I don't follow the going rates like I do my 401 k. I paid what I think is reasonable and fair, but I digress. I don't read ISG often and why should I have to? Disagree or no, I pay what I believe is fair. I still paid a fraction of what I would have paid in the US. One hour with any of the women I went out with would cost over $300 for one hour..

[Knowledge]

I am confused why you thought you would be opening yourself for criticism. I don't think you paid an above average amount for seeking arrangement dates. Lots of guys avoid the casas and the gringo inn. You are enjoying yourself enough to extend your stay so I grade what you are doing as A+.

I'm half way through my trip and I am hesitatingly writing a bit of a report. I hesitate because I doubt most of the membership here will relate and I'm probably leaving myself open to unwanted criticism. My motivations and goals in visiting Medellin are seemingly different. But not entirely. Different, not better or worse.

Let me briefly explain. My priority when I vacation is to sightsee, have adventure and get to know the culture. Women are not the priority, but I like to indulge. I also like an emotional connection, not just a wam bang thank you ma'am. I would never go to a house or the Mansion or anything like that. To each his own, and that's just not me. I think these things set me apart from most others here, though perhaps some of you can relate.

The original plan was to stay a week. I extended that to 2 more weeks. I'm here 8 days now. The first 5 days were spent at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul Lifestyle Apartments. I don't recommend it. The apartment wasn't totally up to snuff and the host, or should I say super host, was less than accommodating. The building itself is nice and management there is very helpful. It's basically an 80 apartment building geared to being a hotel with a few independent owners, like the one I had. I'm not here to write an apartment review but I'll be happy to answer any questions. I also wrote a review on the Airbnb site..