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  1. #23014
    Quote Originally Posted by Sxxxx  [View Original Post]
    So, don't look for AC bar scene to improve any time soon. Innovate or perish, lads. I began innovating about 5/7 yrs ago, LOL. Find a new m. O. That suits you..
    Problem as I see it with the use of internet sites to procure dates is your heading back into the territory of the dreaded photoshop. I want to meet the girl face to face before deciding to waste my time and money on her. Even the apps these days are loaded with glamour edits (photoshop reborn for those with a smart phone). Saggy tits and stretch marks are headed your way on a girl far less attractive than the photo's suggested. If your living there and have the time to send the girl packing when she shows up with an extra 30 pounds then go for it but the guys who are flying in with a limited timeslot on their tour can't waste a night waiting for a girl to show up who won't make the grade.

  2. #23013

    Time to innovate.

    Quote Originally Posted by RainMania  [View Original Post]
    The best girls aren't at the bars anymore. They don't need to be. Times are changing, but it is what it is.

    They can cut out the middle man and more money .....................
    Correct and what I have been saying in recent years. Dating Sites, and attractive girls preferring to be pounded by Sugar Daddy Sponsors, in Compound Estates, is the go now.

    Under 50's "Walking Penises" , plus overweight over 50's, are still trying to procure attractive ones via the outdated and crude bar scene.

    So, don't look for AC bar scene to improve any time soon. Innovate or perish, lads. I began innovating about 5/7 yrs ago, LOL. Find a new m. O. That suits you.

    Note: Newbies will think AC is great, because they have not seen better, lets say 10 yrs and more ago.

  3. #23012

    Interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelangelo  [View Original Post]
    My first visit to Angeles dates back to 2004. Blue Nile was the best bar in town, packed with 200 sexy girls, dancing like there is no tomorrow and going for 1. 000 Pesos LT. Since then, I visited once or twice a year.

    Agree that inflation drives prices up, but nowadays 2. 500 to 3. 800 is the going rate for mostly ugly girls going ST. Gems can still be found, but it takes time to go around all the bars. Which is what I did.

    Angeles has become Korean town. Korean bars, Korean restaurants all over the place. The latest addition to the Sports bar scene (Envy) is great. Nice place and good food, attentive staff and good value for money.

    Prices of drinks are now 115-120 in most bars, but that is not an issue. Problem is the lack of girls in most bars. Crystal Palace which still had a full house of girls 4-5 years ago is now down to 20 girls. I actually counted 19 on a Saturday night at 9. 00 pm! And you still see Koreans throwing bundles of 20 Pesos notes to make the girls scream! The only bars on Fields which had some vibe and a fair amount of girls were QBar, Monsoon and Lollipop. Forget all others!.
    1. It must have been really special to find AC in 2004. You are one of the lucky ones. My first year in 2010 it was still pretty wild but soon changed in 2012 w / numerous bar raids. My whole life would be completely different (now) had I gone in 04. I'm happy w / my life as it is so I'm glad I started when I did.

    2. Yes, the Ks have become a dominate force in AC as both customers and bar owners. W / out their presence (in AC) the town / P4P scene would be on life support. It's a 2 sided coin. I like the K bars and for the most part the talent is a notch better.

    3. Crystal Palace, the Dollhouse and Atlantis are all at their lowest point since I started going imo. My favorite show bar now is Club X.

    4. I've always been a fan of the Perimeter bars and in the past I would agree w / your assessment but on my last trip there were about 3 or 4 bars that had exceptional talent. Ponytails used to be a mainstay in my bar rotation but on my last visit a month ago talent wasn't inspiring. One or two stood out (killer bodies) but were disinterested in the audience. So maybe I was lucky on the Perimeter and unlucky at Ponytails as our opinions are the opposite. To each his own comes into play as well.

    5. Someday I'll say my final goodbyes to AC but I hope that's a long time from now. There's no place like AC and I won't go into too many details why I think this. I'll mention one. The show bars w / choreographed dancers that get paid double the BG rate (by these show bars) because they spend their afternoons memorizing hundreds of dance moves, the bar opens, show at 8 pm. That would be Club X. On my last visit they had fire dancers dressed in leopard tights twirling torches. Damn good show AND w extras. What town can I find this kind of show and then be able to take one of the dancers out to dinner and fun? I'l like to know.

    Thanks for your insights and report.

  4. #23011
    The best girls aren't at the bars anymore. They don't need to be. Times are changing, but it is what it is.

    They can cut out the middle man and more money freelancing online (FB, IG, Tinder, Tagged etc), or in the clubs (HiSo, Mega). When you also factor in the fact that bars can't directly recruit from the province anymore (trafficking laws), you realise the current bar system in AC is completely outdated and in need of a revamp.

  5. #23010
    Quote Originally Posted by Michelangelo  [View Original Post]
    My first visit to Angeles dates back to 2004. Blue Nile was the best bar in town, packed with 200 sexy girls, dancing like there is no tomorrow and going for 1. 000 Pesos LT. Since then, I visited once or twice a year.

    Agree that inflation drives prices up, but nowadays 2. 500 to 3. 800 is the going rate for mostly ugly girls going ST. Gems can still be found, but it takes time to go around all the bars. Which is what I did.

    Angeles has become Korean town. Korean bars, Korean restaurants all over the place. The latest addition to the Sports bar scene (Envy) is great. Nice place and good food, attentive staff and good value for money.

    Prices of drinks are now 115-120 in most bars, but that is not an issue. Problem is the lack of girls in most bars. Crystal Palace which still had a full house of girls 4-5 years ago is now down to 20 girls. I actually counted 19 on a Saturday night at 9. 00 pm! And you still see Koreans throwing bundles of 20 Pesos notes to make the girls scream! The only bars on Fields which had some vibe and a fair amount of girls were QBar, Monsoon and Lollipop. Forget all others!

    I have never been a fan of Perimeters, but based on all good reviews published here, I went to Det5/ Candy. Yes, plenty of girls all looking as if they just came back from having dropped the kids at school and doing the shuffle before going to the supermarket. Awful! I stayed 10 minutes and could not take it anymore. On the way back stopped at Ponytails which had a decent line-up. 5 girls out of 20 were dancing, the others just standing there waiting to be picked.

    My plan was to stay 10 days, but I cut it short after 3 days and will call it my last visit to Angeles. Good memories, even for the last night for which I managed to find a real cutie in Monsoon. I could have stayed a couple of days more just for her, but Angeles was so disappointing that I decided to move on.
    Nice write up and report, thanks!

    Perimeter area, the only nice ones are cherry girls LOL.

  6. #23009

    Next?

    So Michelangelo, where next? Every venue is disappointing compared to the past. Do you have a nirvana or just hopping around hoping the next place is better?

    SE.

  7. #23008

    Last visit to Angeles

    My first visit to Angeles dates back to 2004. Blue Nile was the best bar in town, packed with 200 sexy girls, dancing like there is no tomorrow and going for 1. 000 Pesos LT. Since then, I visited once or twice a year.

    Agree that inflation drives prices up, but nowadays 2. 500 to 3. 800 is the going rate for mostly ugly girls going ST. Gems can still be found, but it takes time to go around all the bars. Which is what I did.

    Angeles has become Korean town. Korean bars, Korean restaurants all over the place. The latest addition to the Sports bar scene (Envy) is great. Nice place and good food, attentive staff and good value for money.

    Prices of drinks are now 115-120 in most bars, but that is not an issue. Problem is the lack of girls in most bars. Crystal Palace which still had a full house of girls 4-5 years ago is now down to 20 girls. I actually counted 19 on a Saturday night at 9. 00 pm! And you still see Koreans throwing bundles of 20 Pesos notes to make the girls scream! The only bars on Fields which had some vibe and a fair amount of girls were QBar, Monsoon and Lollipop. Forget all others!

    I have never been a fan of Perimeters, but based on all good reviews published here, I went to Det5/ Candy. Yes, plenty of girls all looking as if they just came back from having dropped the kids at school and doing the shuffle before going to the supermarket. Awful! I stayed 10 minutes and could not take it anymore. On the way back stopped at Ponytails which had a decent line-up. 5 girls out of 20 were dancing, the others just standing there waiting to be picked.

    My plan was to stay 10 days, but I cut it short after 3 days and will call it my last visit to Angeles. Good memories, even for the last night for which I managed to find a real cutie in Monsoon. I could have stayed a couple of days more just for her, but Angeles was so disappointing that I decided to move on.

  8. #23007
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunners1  [View Original Post]
    Thank you very much Mr. E. Very helpful.

    I am still contemplating if AC is still worth it as it not the same how it was when I last visited 6 to 8 years ago.

    But having said that it still is far better than any of the other usual areas around the region. The main issue I have is what do I do when I am not having s $x. There is absolutely nothing else going on other than find your next pipe to pound.

    G.
    Try Cambodia, the country has both worlds for you, historical sites and maybe not as developed as AC, it's a fun place visit.

  9. #23006

    Breaking News Arcadia Bar Raided

    Yesterday on Saturday around 19:00, from hear say owner, mamasan, girls taken away, as of Sunday still closed.

  10. #23005

    Beaches close to Subic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    I haven't actually been to subic but it's a downgrade from what I was aiming for. I was planning on renting a car and going to Baler but my choice resort is fully booked.

    Any other quality beaches with luxury resorts worth the distance from Angeles?

    Thanks.
    I like these days the beach at barrio barretto.

    I return 2 times a year.

    Locals shout "Batangas beach".

    Googling that I end always at Nasugbu beach with only karaoke and kind of beerbars.

    The beach looks nice on pics.

    At my one and only boaring night at Batangas city close to the central busterminal (about 1 km to the west at an SM hypermarket).

    Tryke divers took me 30 km! To the west to a few pinoy bikini bars in Lemery. Near Dream wave hotel.

    I was to drunk to remember details. But there is a beach there are resorts and there are pinoy bikini bars.

    Yes than you have IBA in Zambales (just karaoke bargirls) has resorts but and beach looked good (but nobody on it, low key resorts).

    And ofcoarse San Fernando in La union with these days overpriced resorts cause locals seem to have money these days.

    Don't book by telephone or internet chat there.

    Cause they prefer to give their family the room if you don't confirm manny manny times.

    I got stuck last April in angeles cause I booked a room 3 weeks ahead in La Union, called 3 days before from angeles, and no room annymore cause I did not reconfirm haha.

    So book agoda and just pay the 60 dollar.

    I was there 3 years ago last time.

    So I can only tell the beach looks nice near the western bars.

    The bars western bars closed at 10 pm.

    Its just so hard / far away to travel to the pinoy bars.

    And when I arrived back at 3 am the gate of my hotel was closed even when I informed I did hit the bars.

    So my conclusion was that the place is for older white who stay there longer and sleep at 10 pm.

    And locals. (pinoy).

    BTW 6 hours with bus /4 hours with minivan from angeles to the north near Baguio.

  11. #23004
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    This is a utopia. People will always respond in many ways to the reports and digress to (or have questions about) related topics like food, transportation, hotels, Viagra, safety, scams, the filipina mind, comparisons between AC and other destinations in SE Asia, etcetera etcetera.
    And of course the usual BS from some trolls, flame wars, safe sex discussions and really off topic stuff.

    There's no way you can achieve a totally 'clean' forum. It would mean a lot of work for the moderators and in the end the forum will die because it's no fun anymore when everyting is being restricted and when separate threads for all those topics, that are often much related, are strictly enforced.
    Related topics like transport, hotels and food are fine.

    Just seems more like to stroke their pen ego than to get their penis stroked.

  12. #23003
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    This forum is all about AC pussy. Vaginas. Poon. How, when, where and how much?
    Reports on actual experiences is where it is at.
    This is a utopia. People will always respond in many ways to the reports and digress to (or have questions about) related topics like food, transportation, hotels, Viagra, safety, scams, the filipina mind, comparisons between AC and other destinations in SE Asia, etcetera etcetera.
    And of course the usual BS from some trolls, flame wars, safe sex discussions and really off topic stuff.

    There's no way you can achieve a totally 'clean' forum. It would mean a lot of work for the moderators and in the end the forum will die because it's no fun anymore when everyting is being restricted and when separate threads for all those topics, that are often much related, are strictly enforced.

  13. #23002
    Thank you very much Mr. E. Very helpful.

    I am still contemplating if AC is still worth it as it not the same how it was when I last visited 6 to 8 years ago.

    But having said that it still is far better than any of the other usual areas around the region. The main issue I have is what do I do when I am not having s $x. There is absolutely nothing else going on other than find your next pipe to pound.

    G.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Actually there has been plenty written on Aqua. Instead of going back pages, try using the search function. That being said, I never got a chance to write up my report from January on the place, so this is for you Gunners.

    Me and a Tinder chick that works at a call center went up to Aqua late one afternoon. ABC, top floor I think it was. There was a round desk with a turnstyle on one side. If I remember correctly, the cashier put writstbands on us, oh yeah, with a number that everything is charged to. The girl got in free but I had to pay 500 pesos. In the end 500 was subtracted from the bill for consumables though.

    We sat at the bar. First we tried to sit on some couches though and were told that you have to spend at least 4000 to sit there. I think it was 8000 for the cabanas. There were guys in one cabana with some rent-a-chicks. It seemed to be someone's birthday because they had a big ass sheet cake and stuff. Some of the dudes and chicks would go to the pool to swim at times. There was also a live DJ.

    Night rolled in and with it came a chick that appeared to be someone. I figured she was either the owner or the owner's daughter. She was pretty elegant and her presence commanded respect. Her clothes, shoes, and bag were definitely neither cheap nor knockoffs. She was tall and sexy but had a big ass Wicked Witch of the West nose. Seriously, I have never seen a chick like this in AC. She told the bartender what she wanted to drink. He mixed it in a blender and gave it to her without ringing anything up. Then she would go around just checking stuff out. Everybody would smile and greet her.

    Me and my girl left after having 2 drinks each. The bill when we got back to the big round desk ended up being 600 pesos. I didn't see any chicks to pick up in there. The time that we were there a couple more mixed groups (middle class Filipino men and women) came in and sat on the sofas and ordered stuff. Other than that it seemed to be just guys that were staying at the hotel.

  14. #23001
    Quote Originally Posted by Socker  [View Original Post]
    I think we all want the same thing, important information where we can find it.
    As it is now the AC Forum is a mess and I know you think it's reasonable for an experienced guy like me to have to look back at 6 months of posts to find what's going on in AC now.
    Like I said before, you don't have to go back 6 months if you read the forum on a regular basis and make notes. Let's say at least one time a week.
    Nevertheless I agree with you that there's too much off topic junk sometimes. But I think 'mess' is a too strong word.

  15. #23000
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    Chances are the girl you saw, and there are now several like her, was there as a "guest" of the bar. Jerry, the manager knows that pretty women draw in the men, and so he's recruited a few reasonably elegant looking women to come hang around. I have no idea if they're available or not, but there are lots and lots of freelancers who frequent the place from early evening onward.

    GE.
    But it was like this woman was going around inspecting things making sure they were running right. She was not just there for decoration.

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