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Originally Posted by BananaBoi
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I do approve it being done to protect the girls from Cheap Charlie's who short change the girl or guys who think they are special that they don't have to pay girls or pay them very very little.
It's probably done because some idiots listen to some of the morons on this and other boards who say to just pay the girl the low end price, and that she will respect you more for it, since she talks shit about the guys that pay the full high end price. What fuckin morons.
That should only be done on very specific situations, not if you are a tourist in a Go-go bar. A lot of times, the mamasan will remind me the tip amount the girl requires. But I always negotiate the required tip with the girl; I can't stand drama.
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Originally Posted by Phazze93
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Did the girl make the customer pay up front?? Is that common practice at Palace? I'm more used to paying the girl after the deed is done.
Standard MO at the Palace from what I saw. The mamasan was just reminding the customer how much to tip after the deed.
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Cool. Thanks for the info.
Originally Posted by Phazze93
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Did the girl make the customer pay up front?? Is that common practice at Palace? I'm more used to paying the girl after the deed is done.
If you are not a known customer to the bar or if the girl doesn't know you some bars have implemented the pay up front rule. Could also be because the bar is taking a cut of the money or knowing if the girl gets only ST money that she needs to be back in the bar within a couple / few hours. I don't approve of the latter since that is too much control over the girls. I do approve it being done to protect the girls from Cheap Charlie's who short change the girl or guys who think they are special that they don't have to pay girls or pay them very very little. Hate having to deal with the drama after a gogo girl gets short changed.
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Originally Posted by BananaBoi
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Which gogo bars are you still getting 3 k LT? Certainly not places like Infinity, Palace, What's Up and some of the other reputed top gogo bars. Maybe Sapphire so Sapphire is always 'up to you'.
Talent is far from being down at Pattaya gogo bars. Last night was just a very very off night. One of the worst I have ever seen except Palace. Walked in and out of Happy. Sensations had no one new for me and nice. Beach Club was empty. I had a great time at Infinity watching FL Hawk in action with his harem.
From memory, Fahrenheit and Peppermint. They were not "top" girls, but genuinely attractive early 20's. Ah, also windmill and its sister club, might have been 3.5k, I don't lose sleep over 500 baht.
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Originally Posted by MrManGuy
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I've gotten lots of LT for 3 k, or 3. 5 k or 4 k, is 5 k the standard now? I thought that was a rate for near top or top girls. Sounds like the quality of girls in Pattaya is down a bit?
Which gogo bars are you still getting 3 k LT? Certainly not places like Infinity, Palace, What's Up and some of the other reputed top gogo bars. If you are and they are the top girls in the bar my hats off to you. Maybe Sapphire so Sapphire is always 'up to you'.
Talent is far from being down at Pattaya gogo bars. Last night was just a very very off night. One of the worst I have ever seen except Palace. Walked in and out of Happy. Sensations had no one new for me and nice. Beach Club was empty. I had a great time at Infinity watching FL Hawk in action with his harem.
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Originally Posted by BananaBoi
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3 k ST 5 k LT is standard. At some bars you can negotiate for less, especially if the girl is older or not a top girl.
We were at Tantra last night arriving a 9:30 or so. It was one of the worst lineups I have ever seen there. Place was almost empty. I kind of like #320 as well but I find her jaw to be a bit square. She also doesn't seem like much fun. Seen her sitting with other guys and no hands on fun at all.
I've gotten lots of LT for 3 k, or 3. 5 k or 4 k, is 5 k the standard now? I thought that was a rate for near top or top girls. Sounds like the quality of girls in Pattaya is down a bit?
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Originally Posted by GreenBud
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Non smoking law is not enforced at the Palace, nor at any of the other Go Go bars I've been to this trip. East Asians gravitate to the bars with cute girls; many East Asians are chain smokers.
Mamasan at Skyfall told me those are the prices for the tip; note that you also have to pay the barfine. Not sure if that was the upper end. Not sure if you can negotiate with the girl, especially the cute ones. Anyone has the answer?
At the Palace when a customer was leaving with a girl, she told the guy that you have to give XX, and I thought she held up 3 fingers. But I wasn't sure about the thumb. So it's either 3 or 4 tip for short time. Anyone has the answer?
No surprises about where the asian mongers flock to. Surprised about the smoking indoors though.
Did the girl make the customer pay up front?? Is that common practice at Palace? I'm more used to paying the girl after the deed is done.
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Originally Posted by GreenBud
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Non smoking law is not enforced at the Palace, nor at any of the other Go Go bars I've been to this trip. East Asians gravitate to the bars with cute girls; many East Asians are chain smokers.
Mamasan at Skyfall told me those are the prices for the tip; note that you also have to pay the barfine. Not sure if that was the upper end. Not sure if you can negotiate with the girl, especially the cute ones. Anyone has the answer?
At the Palace when a customer was leaving with a girl, she told the guy that you have to give XX, and I thought she held up 3 fingers. But I wasn't sure about the thumb. So it's either 3 or 4 tip for short time. Anyone has the answer?
3 k ST 5 k LT is standard. At some bars you can negotiate for less, especially if the girl is older or not a top girl.
I don't believe the smoking law is banning smoking from bars. Someone can correct me but I believe it's just to ban smoking from within 5 metres from any door. What this would technically mean since it is so narrow is that smoking would be prohibited from all of Walking Street itself unless you are inside a bar. It would also prohibit smoking on any sidewalk or side soi. I pray the police due their job and collect side money from all smokers I can't stand smokers.
Originally Posted by FLHawk
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I was complaining last night to Banana Boy about that same thing. One after another after another after another. Of course, plenty of falangs chain smoke too.
It hasn't even been that bad the past few days we have gone out. I don't mind so much if guys smoke and actually smoke since that is expected in a Thai gogo bar but I do get very annoyed at guys who leave their cigarettes burning in an ashtray for minutes without smoking it. I have "accidentally" spilled my drink on some of those cigarettes.
Originally Posted by Phazze93
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I'm arriving on a Friday. Say I find myself a serious stunner. How much do you think to barfine for the weekend? Fri-sun 2 nights?
BF is according to each bar and you will have to pay for each night she is on shift. If you are lucky she is not working the next 2 night so you can make arrangements with the girl the next night, skipping the BF. However, I have to ask why would you stay with the same girl if you are on a short trip.
FYI for those who haven't heard e-cigarettes and vaping will soon be legal in Thailand. Already see guys lighting up.
Originally Posted by GreenBud
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I arrived at Tantra at 8:30 PM on Sunday. Talent was very good. Bar is slightly smaller than the Palace; less girls than Palace. IMO, overall talent is similar to Palace. Easy to tell who the models were; they had "model" written on their number tag. The models were only topless. I was going to talk to number 320; she had a cute face. But as soon as she got off stage, she was grabbed by this guy who gave her multiple lady drinks.
I arrived at Infinity at 10:30. Bar was somewhat empty. Talent was average.
I arrived at Skyfall at 11. Talent was above average, but not as good as Palace and Tantra. Since I arrived late, maybe all the cute ones were already barfined. Mamasam told me that the barfine was 1500 and 2000. Plus 4000 for short time and 6000 for long time.
Guys, please DO NOT support Skyfall and their inflated prices That bar is a complete tourist trap. FL mentioned to me last night we'd head to Skyfall. I pretended I didn't hear him! No tourist traps like Sapphire and Skyfall for this guy. I don't buy 6 drinks per hour and get next to no action.
We were at Tantra last night arriving a 9:30 or so. It was one of the worst lineups I have ever seen there. Place was almost empty. I kind of like #320 as well but I find her jaw to be a bit square. She also doesn't seem like much fun. Seen her sitting with other guys and no hands on fun at all.
We were at Infinity around the same time last night (Sunday). Pretty dead and not many girls working. Try again later in the week and a bit earlier if you are still in town. Care to meet up with the rest of us, MP, FL Hawk, and Lew Ashby, and I believe Phazze?
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Originally Posted by FLHawk
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Is there a polite word for penis? I heard the term Johnson being used by some retired army pilots I hang out with, and I found it to be hilarious. That is how I intended it to be used here.
Now that you now what Johnson refers to. I always got a kick when the play by play announcer called out American Basketball player "Magic Johnson." He had / has one, banging 300 -500 chicks per year. So much fuckin, he got HIV in '91. He's still alive and kickin, and that shit still in him.
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Anyone know of hotels that let you use their pool for a small fee?
The PPlus hotel on Soi Xzyte charges 100 baht for the day to use their pool (open 7 am to 7 pm). Also, you can use the gym and pool there for a monthly rate of 1500 baht.
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Originally Posted by GreenBud
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Why the fuck do they always place me next to a chain smoking Asian.
I was complaining last night to Banana Boy about that same thing. One after another after another after another. Of course, plenty of falangs chain smoke too.
This is why I tend to end up at Red Car. No smoking. And I am seeing more younger women are going there. Last night I took home a girl in her mid-20's. Last April I took home a 25 year old. And how did I know the one last night was young? We and 2 of her girl friends left RC to go to Lucifer's, and all three got their ID's out as we approached the disco for an age check.
The only downside is that the youngins just aren't as talanteted as their mothers.
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Originally Posted by Phazze93
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-Are people allowed to smoke inside Palace? I like the occasional smoke myself, but not chain smoking through the night.
-skyfall's 4000/6000 is that only skyfall that has those fixed prices? What have you seen from places like palace?
Non smoking law is not enforced at the Palace, nor at any of the other Go Go bars I've been to this trip. East Asians gravitate to the bars with cute girls; many East Asians are chain smokers.
Mamasan at Skyfall told me those are the prices for the tip; note that you also have to pay the barfine. Not sure if that was the upper end. Not sure if you can negotiate with the girl, especially the cute ones. Anyone has the answer?
At the Palace when a customer was leaving with a girl, she told the guy that you have to give XX, and I thought she held up 3 fingers. But I wasn't sure about the thumb. So it's either 3 or 4 tip for short time. Anyone has the answer?
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Originally Posted by Allover
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Johnson is not a polite word in the US. It is at the same level of vulgarity as dick or cock.
Is there a polite word for penis?
I heard the term Johnson being used by some retired army pilots I hang out with, and I found it to be hilarious. That is how I intended it to be used here.
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Originally Posted by BananaBoi
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imo the better nights to go to gogo bars are Sunday to Wednesday. Thursdays start getting busy and on Friday or Saturday many good girls are already barfined for the weekend when their out of town sponsors or big customers arrive and have pre barfined the girls. Sundays and Mondays are usually try out nights at some of the busier bars too.
I'm arriving on a Friday. Say I find myself a serious stunner. How much do you think to barfine for the weekend? Fri-sun 2 nights?
Originally Posted by GreenBud
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I arrived at Palace at 9 PM. Talent was very good. So far from my limited observations, Palace and Tantra had the best overall talent. The models wore the bikinis and they were topless. The regular girls wore the shorts. Barfine was 1500 for regular and 2000 for the models. Why the fuck do they always place me next to a chain smoking Asian. Then they tell me to move over in order to squeeze in more people, forcing me to go cheek to cheek. Palace gets totally packed.
I arrived at Skyfall at 11. Talent was above average, but not as good as Palace and Tantra. Since I arrived late, maybe all the cute ones were already barfined. Mamasam told me that the barfine was 1500 and 2000. Plus 4000 for short time and 6000 for long time.
Palace and Tantra are somewhat depressing. Most of the girls aren't smiling; they don't look at you; they don't seem to be having fun. I like other bars (with average girls) where they smile and greet you, and where they want you to fondle them for lady drinks. But the good thing is that the girls at Palace / Tantra don't push for lady drinks; you have to call them over.
-Are people allowed to smoke inside Palace? I like the occasional smoke myself, but not chain smoking through the night.
-skyfall's 4000/6000 is that only skyfall that has those fixed prices? What have you seen from places like palace?
-I doubt many of the girls are actually having fun dancing half naked on a stage in front of a bunch of ugly ass dudes LOL. And the pretty ones usually don't have to fake smile to get customers.
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Originally Posted by BananaBoi
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I can't emphasize enough for you to go to Tantra and even at least walk in and out of Infinity and Skyfall. Tantra has many models but the cute ones at Tantra are the ones who are not models.
Thanks for the tips.
I arrived at Tantra at 8:30 PM on Sunday. Talent was very good. Bar is slightly smaller than the Palace; less girls than Palace. IMO, overall talent is similar to Palace. Easy to tell who the models were; they had "model" written on their number tag. The models were only topless. I was going to talk to number 320; she had a cute face. But as soon as she got off stage, she was grabbed by this guy who gave her multiple lady drinks.
I arrived at Palace at 9 PM. Talent was very good. So far from my limited observations, Palace and Tantra had the best overall talent. The models wore the bikinis and they were topless. The regular girls wore the shorts. Barfine was 1500 for regular and 2000 for the models. Why the fuck do they always place me next to a chain smoking Asian. Then they tell me to move over in order to squeeze in more people, forcing me to go cheek to cheek. Palace gets totally packed.
I arrived at Infinity at 10:30. Bar was somewhat empty. Talent was average.
I arrived at Skyfall at 11. Talent was above average, but not as good as Palace and Tantra. Since I arrived late, maybe all the cute ones were already barfined. Mamasam told me that the barfine was 1500 and 2000. Plus 4000 for short time and 6000 for long time.
Man! When did all the prices go up for the cute girls. It will be really expensive to pick up 2 or 3. I remember when it was 1000 baht barfine for the "Showgirls". I haven't pick up from Walking Street Go Go's in a few years. Mainly because the cute girls usually say "no". No to CIM, no to lesbian shows, no to rimming.
Palace and Tantra are somewhat depressing. Most of the girls aren't smiling; they don't look at you; they don't seem to be having fun. I like other bars (with average girls) where they smile and greet you, and where they want you to fondle them for lady drinks. But the good thing is that the girls at Palace / Tantra don't push for lady drinks; you have to call them over.
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