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  1. #19509

    T65.

    30 reais minimum consumption but the damage was 128 reais for consumption.

    200 reais 1 hour (cabin).

    Marcela, Performance 8/10, Vaginal sex, BBBJ, DFK and I came twice once while fucking and once in her mouth. She doesn't do Anal but it was OK for me although she let me know before going up and she is my type. Slim white girl with brown hair and brown eyes. I think she is 1.70.

    Friday was a busy day in t65 unlike Monday, They closed at 3 am.

  2. #19508
    Quote Originally Posted by Lievre  [View Original Post]
    I was expecting exactly this answer Sperto. Everything is possible but I will not speculate, just go to another country where girls and people are more friendly and loving towards me. It's not that I feel targeted but I feel cariocas in general lost their respect, genuine friendliness and manners these last two decades.
    Brazilians are not all carioca. You can find many friendly people in other states and even in Rio de Janeiro if you keep away from touristic places. Brazil is a open country unlike many countries.

    I don't like Copacabana, I can't stand many people there, but there are many nice cariocas in Rio de janeiro. Maybe this is because Copacabana is the only place for you and you judge people very quickly before knowing them. Because you went to VM you don' get out of the car just because people were black or did not look nice to you. If you judge people that way, don't be surprise you never run into friendly people.

  3. #19507
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  4. #19506
    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    A lot of things have changed in Brazil the last decades, for good and bad. The mongering scene have changed a lot in Rio, but it's still very good if you know where to look.

    I understand that it can be a shock to come back to Rio after being gone for 20 years (?). You experience that the GPs are less friendly and that the cariocas have become arrogant and aggressive. It could be that you have experienced this because you have changed in these 20 years, not just aging but also in your attitude towards the locals. Personally I find the GPs as lovely and sweet just like 27 years ago and the cariocas just as welcoming and friendly as always.
    I was expecting exactly this answer Sperto. Everything is possible but I will not speculate, just go to another country where girls and people are more friendly and loving towards me. It's not that I feel targeted but I feel cariocas in general lost their respect, genuine friendliness and manners these last two decades.

  5. #19505
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You have a lot of assumptions never having been to Thailand. Keep an open mind.

    1. I live in Thailand. It is not my country. I lived in Brazil before and it was not my country either. I am North American, but the worst day in both places is better than the best day in my country.

    2. Portuguese is my third language. Thai is my fifth language. My first day in Brazil I could not say Hello, Portuguese. My first day in Thailand I could not say Hello, in Thai. Did not matter. My first time in both places I had a blast. Pattaya is a tourist and expat town. A lot of people here speak some kind of English.
    1) I just hope I ll enjoy in Thailand. I just said I still prefer Brazil because I feel more comfortable. I am sure if I had your experience and lived in Thailand for a while, I would prefer Thailand as much as Brazil.

    5) sorry I meant culture instead of mentality. For example I can't kiss the girls in public in the bars in Thailand. It's what I've heard from some guys in the Thailand thread.

    3) I never know what will happen as you said. I just hope I will enjoy in Thailand.

    2) I've never been interested in mongering in Copacabana.

    1) I speak zero Thai.

  6. #19504
    Quote Originally Posted by Lievre  [View Original Post]
    This friendly innocent attitude of garotas de programa is gone now and I won't come back to Rio... One last point I want to raise is that people in the streets of Rio have become quite arrogant and aggressive towards foreigners, even low life stinking older women are messing with tourists now.
    A lot of things have changed in Brazil the last decades, for good and bad. The mongering scene have changed a lot in Rio, but it's still very good if you know where to look.

    I understand that it can be a shock to come back to Rio after being gone for 20 years (?). You experience that the GPs are less friendly and that the cariocas have become arrogant and aggressive. It could be that you have experienced this because you have changed in these 20 years, not just aging but also in your attitude towards the locals. Personally I find the GPs as lovely and sweet just like 27 years ago and the cariocas just as welcoming and friendly as always.

  7. #19503
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You have a lot of assumptions never having been to Thailand. Keep an open mind.
    5. Everybody's mentailty is different. It does not have all to do with what country they are from. You mean to tell me that because you are Brazilian you have the same mentality as Bolsonaro and the same mentality as Lula?

    Why are you assuming what will be wrong with your trip before you even take it?
    Yeah this Brazilian's guy answer kind of demonstrates a little bit what is wrong with Rio and Brazil in general.

    They despise (sex) tourists and think their country is the best in the world anyway. This dude already made a list of everything that he will dislike in Thailand compared to Brazil, without having ever been to Thailand. LOL.

    The truth is that I came back to Rio because twenty years ago I had a blast here with feminine thin friendly graceful girls from all over the country, especially making friends and partying with the girls, for reasonable prices or no money at all. These working girls were young, fresh and fun and you could find them everywhere. Of course, nowadays, I could always pick up regular girls but I don't have time for that.

    This friendly innocent attitude of garotas de programa is gone now and I won't come back to Rio. Probably So Paulo is much better in that respect. In fact every town in the world which is very touristic and has a sex tourism reputation should be avoided completely, in my experience (except maybe for SEA and the Dominican Republic).

    People in Brazil have become more westernized with feminism, fast food and liberal bullshit and it's just not fun for me anymore.

    Even though I managed to get pretty girls here, I actually haven't even enjoyed being with them and I'm turning them down.

    One last point I want to raise is that people in the streets of Rio have become quite arrogant and aggressive towards foreigners, even low life stinking older women are messing with tourists now.

    Probably 16 years of communism flattering the lower classes and telling them they are better than everybody else have had some results. I hope Bolsonaro brings back some order and common sense in this country.

    https://twitter.com/_El_Patriota/sta...871818753?s=07

    As for progress. Huummmm.

    OK, old time Brazilian lovers. Shoot now.

  8. #19502
    Quote Originally Posted by MongerForSex  [View Original Post]
    So why you are complaining if you had good time?

    I plan to travel to Thailand in January but I am sure I won't enjoy as much as in Brazil. 1. It's not my country, I am just farang. 2. I don't speak Thai 3. I will only fuck hookers 4. I won't get middle class or upper class girls because they act differently than Brazilian women so I am not used to them, I ll be a total newbie. The way I will act around Thais won't be good to them. 5 My mentality is different than them.
    You have a lot of assumptions never having been to Thailand. Keep an open mind.

    1. I live in Thailand. It is not my country. I lived in Brazil before and it was not my country either. I am North American, but the worst day in both places is better than the best day in my country.

    2. Portuguese is my third language. Thai is my fifth language. My first day in Brazil I could not say Hello, Portuguese. My first day in Thailand I could not say Hello, in Thai. Did not matter. My first time in both places I had a blast. Pattaya is a tourist and expat town. A lot of people here speak some kind of English.

    3. Many freelance hookers here in Thailand are just like they were in Copacabana in the old days. In Pattaya they are cheap and in many cases you have to make them leave. If you plan to only get chicks from bars then that will be a different animal. But when you hang in the discos a lot of chicks have normal jobs in the daytime and there are some chicks that come from Bangkok on the weekends to have fun. You never know what you are going to get.

    4. Get on ThaiCupid and you will have no problem meeting middle class women. I have met many. What do you mean they act differently than Brazilian women? You mean to tell me that all Brazilian women act the same? In my experience they do not. They are people, and all people act differently. How do you plan to act around them that will not be good to them? I have been with normal women all over the world that act differently than women from my country. What the fuck does that have to do with anything? My dad told me when in a hoarhouse act like a hoar. That does not mean I will be in the middle of the street doing the same thing. There is a time and place for everything.

    5. Everybody's mentailty is different. It does not have all to do with what country they are from. You mean to tell me that because you are Brazilian you have the same mentality as Bolsonaro and the same mentality as Lula?

    Why are you assuming what will be wrong with your trip before you even take it?

  9. #19501

    If Not Rio then São Paulo

    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    Sadly, this has been the case for a long time my friend.

    I've been going to Rio for over twenty years. It was monger heaven for the first ten years. Beautiful girls from all over the country converging on Rio to make some cash. The girls weren't jaded and often wouldn't go home if you treated them right. In that time, you could see how the internet was making Rio too popular for foreign men. The World Cup, the Olympics, moralizing politicians and on and on forced the changes.

    At one time I would never say this, but now I say if you are solely interested in mongering go to Sao Paulo. Yes, it's a totally urbanized form of mongering (no beach, no major sightseeing, no relaxed atmosphere). However, this is where the beautiful Brazilian girls are working.
    I don't have Rio for comparison, but I do have the rest of the world, and can say São Paulo is tops in looks and service for me. Those who followed my SP adventures a few months back know that I saw quite a handful of girls. And of the 29 girls I saw this year worldwide (I like to keep track), SP and Campinas girls took 4 of the top 6 spots when I did a ranking. (I would rate 3 of the 4 a 9. 5 in the face (no lie!) and the other an 8. 5 and the service was solid GFE — 7 and up.

    So if Rio is going downward, SP / Campinas might be worth a trip (my all time fave Thifany lives in Rio but travels to Campinas to work the club).

  10. #19500
    Quote Originally Posted by Lievre  [View Original Post]
    Look I speak fluent Portuguese and I can pick up regular Brazilian girls easily but everybody knows it requires a few dates and all this work.

    Rio used to be a good and cheap place to have fun with beautiful young girls from all over the country for not much money or often for free if the girls liked you.

    It's not like this anymore, next time I will stick to the Dominican republic, Colombia or South East Asia where I have much more fun with pros and non pros for less money.

    I guess the free money from the presal oil and gas and the Fast food feminist first world mentality f. A little bit too much with this country.

    I came here to matar saudade. E eu matei demais.

    Of course I'm still having a good time because I create my own opportunities anywhere in the world but I'm saying objectively:

    Rio is not sin city any longer.
    So why you are complaining if you had good time?

    I plan to travel to Thailand in January but I am sure I won't enjoy as much as in Brazil. 1. It's not my country, I am just farang. 2. I don't speak Thai 3. I will only fuck hookers 4. I won't get middle class or upper class girls because they act differently than Brazilian women so I am not used to them, I ll be a total newbie. The way I will act around Thais won't be good to them. 5 My mentality is different than them. Every country is different, Brazil is still a country to monger, there are some places that opened and re-opened. More frequented by locals. You just have to know where and when to go.

    I know you want to stick with fucking girls in Copacabana, Help closed down and was not big deal for Brazilian guys only for gringos, Brazil is not Copacabana. Brazil doesn't need foreign tourists to monger in their country. Brazilian women can still make more money from Brazilian guys than gringos. Brazil will never be feminist country. Brazil is a big country with many poor, middle class and upper class people. Some states are richer than others.

    I mongered in mexico and Colombia and I still prefer Brazil. 1 I feel more comfortable 2. Better performance 3. I speak Portuguese as a first language 4. Diversity so I can fuck girls of different race. 5. I can date middle and upper class Brazilians.

    To me, the best looking women in the world are from Parana, Sao Paulo and Rio Grande do Sul. Maybe because I am from Parana.

    Enjoy in Colombia, Thailand and Germany and have good sex. Hope your experience will be better.

  11. #19499
    Quote Originally Posted by Lievre  [View Original Post]
    Rio used to be a good and cheap place to have fun with beautiful young girls from all over the country...................
    Rio is not sin city any longer.
    Sadly, this has been the case for a long time my friend.

    I've been going to Rio for over twenty years. It was monger heaven for the first ten years. Beautiful girls from all over the country converging on Rio to make some cash. The girls weren't jaded and often wouldn't go home if you treated them right. In that time, you could see how the internet was making Rio too popular for foreign men. The World Cup, the Olympics, moralizing politicians and on and on forced the changes.

    At one time I would never say this, but now I say if you are solely interested in mongering go to Sao Paulo. Yes, it's a totally urbanized form of mongering (no beach, no major sightseeing, no relaxed atmosphere). However, this is where the beautiful Brazilian girls are working.

  12. #19498
    Quote Originally Posted by ExecTalent  [View Original Post]
    It is just not Point and Click any more. There is no large Disco with hundreds of girls with an outside bar you can drink and make first contact. The number of termas has been reduced, the quality diminished and the prices higher. You cannot walk the beach and get approached by girls wanting to spend time with you (for a price). You can't call an escort agency and have the phone answered by an English speaker and a decent looking girl show up, whose service is guaranteed, with a book filled with many others.

    However, like our Brazilian friend mentioned, there are still many options, you just have to have game and be able to speak Portuguese well enough to charm the locals..
    Look I speak fluent Portuguese and I can pick up regular Brazilian girls easily but everybody knows it requires a few dates and all this work.

    Rio used to be a good and cheap place to have fun with beautiful young girls from all over the country for not much money or often for free if the girls liked you.

    It's not like this anymore, next time I will stick to the Dominican republic, Colombia or South East Asia where I have much more fun with pros and non pros for less money.

    I guess the free money from the presal oil and gas and the Fast food feminist first world mentality f. A little bit too much with this country.

    I came here to matar saudade. E eu matei demais.

    Of course I'm still having a good time because I create my own opportunities anywhere in the world but I'm saying objectively:

    Rio is not sin city any longer.

  13. #19497
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    I think you went on a wrong night. When I went there it was flooded with stunners. They have some of the most beautiful girls I have seen in a long time. The only thing Solarium is the most expensive termas other than Centaurus. But trust me you will want to spend the money, because I can't think of another place where you will find top notch quality.
    Yeah I was definitely there on a slow Monday evening.

    But still, out of fifteen girls, I saw only one girl that I wanted to bang (which I did today at my apartment BTW, a Salma Hayek lookalike).

    All the other girls were the kind of fake chubby blonds that Brazilians like or some "pretty faces" with fake tits and a high mileage.

    Brazil has much more potential than that. Even at Vila Mimosa, you will see prettier young bitches than in Solarium (I don't recommend the place though).

    Rio has just gone downhill and very expensive in the last ten years in my opinion. In any FKK in Europe, you will find more beautiful girls for a cheaper price. No need to go to Brazil for that.

  14. #19496
    Quote Originally Posted by ExecTalent  [View Original Post]
    It is just not Point and Click any more. There is no large Disco with hundreds of girls with an outside bar you can drink and make first contact. The number of termas has been reduced, the quality diminished and the prices higher. You cannot walk the beach and get approached by girls wanting to spend time with you (for a price). You can't call an escort agency and have the phone answered by an English speaker and a decent looking girl show up, whose service is guaranteed, with a book filled with many others.

    However, like our Brazilian friend mentioned, there are still many options, you just have to have game and be able to speak Portuguese well enough to charm the locals. If I didn't, I would focus on:

    http://www.terapiasonline.com.br/terapeutas

    https://espacoterapias.com.br/terapeutas/

    Many can be contacted on WhatsApp. Use Google Translate.

    Check out forums frequented by the locals.

    https://www.gataurbana.com/blog/foru...gpface-cutuca/

    https://forumx.com.br/

    http://www.gp-guia.net/

    Open in Google Chrome and turn on translation.

    For some of you, this might seem like a lot of work and not worth the effort. I understand. Just trying to give you options. For me, travelling thousands of miles and walking the dank alleys of Vila Mimosa or hanging out with jaded ex-pats and past the expiration date unattractive ladies at Mabs, would not be among them.
    That pretty much sums up Rio (at least in Copa) from the way it was and what it is today. Good summary.

  15. #19495
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    Based on recent good reports about the place, went on Monday about 8:45 PM. Supposedly a "dose dupla" night, according to the flyer by the entrance downstairs, but it wasn't, just free entrance with 10 Real minimum consumption. Went in and it was dead: I counted 13 girls and 10 other guys in the place. Ordered a beer and looked around but none of the girls were doable for me. Hung around for 10 minutes while I finished my beer and left. Obviously the girls that impressed the previous posters took the night off, so Mondays may not be a good day to visit this place.

    That Monday is a bad night was confirmed when I went to 119 Alfandega, looking for the girl I sessioned with last week. She wasn't there and it was pretty empty, with maybe 8 girls, so I left and went to 219 Uruguayana, which further confirmed how bad Mondays are, since I was actually able to get in, and even get a seat. I counted 13 girls and maybe 20 guys, some of them just drinking beer and trying to cop free feels from the girls without actually going to the room (one middle-aged black guy was pawing a young slim black girl for at least 10 minutes until she realized that he wasn't going to session with her and walked away from him. He got another beer and then started trying to paw a dirty blonde but she wasn't receptive to his attempted pawing). I saw 4 girls leave during the 15-20 minutes I was there, so either they made their money quota, or gave up on getting a session there and either went to another boate to try their luck there or went home.
    There is no entry fee in 502 from Monday to Friday. Just 10 reais minimum consumption. As stated, 502 is better from Wednesday to Friday from 7 pm. Monday is a dead day in Centro, even in 4 by4, Cancun and T65, there are less girls. I don't like trash clubs because the entry is free and anybody enter there even guys without money. There were only 40 girls, that's why you don't pay any admission fee on Mondays. Normally there are 70-80 girls in 4 by 4 in other days.

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