Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

The sales lady hears how much money is made and seen that several of the guys actually look handsome. She thinks maybe sometime I will try it if a handsome guy were to hit on her. In my example, I am not saying all sales ladies are for sale am I?

No. But you are still not making sense. You are assuming that money is everything and morals are nothing. If a handsome guy hit on her maybe she will be thinking that she would like to be in a stable relationship and would like to go out with the guy to find out what he is about. I know plenty of girls that will fuck guys because they want to fuck and will not accept money for fucking BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HOOKERS!

One of my girls in Peru keeps asking when I am going to have friends come with me because she wants to be tied up and gangbanged. But that does not mean she wants to use it as a money making opportunity, because she is simply not a hooker.

[LoveItHere69]

Jjbee62,

I never meant to imply every girl is a hooker. My point was (1) That if your friends partake in certain things that you have not then you are more apt to try also. Example is I know guys that would never eat Balut in their countries but after seeing so many girls eat it they decided to try it. It does not mean everyone will, or they will do it regularly. (2) If the society you are visiting accepts certain things that you are more apt to try it. Example is I would never try a prostitute in my country but would in another because I do not want to shit where I eat. Ever hear the saying, " When In Rome"?

Think of this. A girl from the farmlands comes to the big city is not going to try prostitution. It is foreign and scary thought to her. But a sales lady with a booth next to a short time hotel talks to some of her customers from time to time who happen to be street. The sales lady hears how much money is made and seen that several of the guys actually look handsome. She thinks maybe sometime I will try it if a handsome guy were to hit on her. In my example, I am not saying all sales ladies are for sale am I?

Let me further clarify. Hot sexy women in the "Play Areas" such as discos, bars, Parque Lleras are hit on every night I am sure. I did not mean every girl walking down the average street.

[JjBee62]

I think I am fairly familiar with both Tijuana and Medellin. I have taken a good many mongering trips to both places, and I enjoyed both. No reason to expect the same type of fun in every city. Each place has its own unique characteristics, but can be enjoyed equally.

Likewise, I went to Sosua once and I enjoyed my time there.

Certainly. Each place can be great, but each place is different. That's what some people don't understand. The difference can throw some people off. For example, in Sosua you just say no to a bunch of women until you spot one you want. In a lot of places in Medellin, you can be surrounded by hookers and other than a few looks and smiles most of them will just wait for you to make a move.

[Lefeu]

If you want Tijuana, go to Tijuana. Anywhere else you won't find what you find in Tijuana...

I think I am fairly familiar with both Tijuana and Medellin. I have taken a good many mongering trips to both places, and I enjoyed both. No reason to expect the same type of fun in every city. Each place has its own unique characteristics, but can be enjoyed equally.

Likewise, I went to Sosua once and I enjoyed my time there.

[Mr Enternational]

Here's the trap too many mongers fall into: they start to think every woman in whatever country is a prostitute. They try to rationalize it, because all the women they spend time with accept money for sex. Whether it's legal or not, it's not universally acceptable.

Funny thing how mfs spend time on a corner full of hookers then they know the entire country is full of hookers. Same thing used to happen in Rio. When you get out and meet regular people you tend to know better. In Colombia I have fucked way more women that are not hookers than women that are hookers.

[BeersTerry]

The difficult thing about centro for most people is knowing which streets you can walk on and which ones you can't. It was hard for me until Vegas Jeff walked me through through the city. You could be walking along the street and just have to know that you should not cross onto the other side.

Another thing is that streets change from being safe during the day and dangerous at night. For example the street that the police station is on, safe during the day and dangerous at night. With exception of the block the station is on as the police block off the street with personnel posted everywhere so that you can only walk it.

Want to get mugged? Walk around at dusk with flip flops and shorts.


Vegas Jeff's theory is that Lleras was more dangerous for being mugged. Muggers are not on their turf and hence are a little more edgy/nervous. As such, any wrong moves, fast moves, sudden moves can trigger catastrophic events such as shootings or stabblings.

[JjBee62]

Why do you say that. I get that some apartment owner / leasers are a bit hokey with the ground zero mirage they paint renting Lleres apartments but Centro seems like a relatively low rent scene by day and by night only several well known strip clubs and I imagine a few other less populated establishments. My perception is you have to always be on guard and the streets at night are truly dangerous. To me ground zero seems like the center of the action. Lleres would be considered center of or ground zero of Medellin's paisa locals scene but surely less opportunity for mongers than a single club like Fase. True? Centro seems like a scene all to itself but not a large scene.

I need to buckle up and go next week.

I think he says that because Parque Lleras isn't ground zero. Unless the action you're looking for is old gringos, who seek out other old gringos to complain that there are too many gringos.

Parque Lleras is a nice area. It's an area where you can act like you do at home and get away with it. There are plenty of restaurants, mostly overpriced. There are plenty of clubs with overpriced drinks. If you hang out late at night there are several women, mostly overpriced, who will be happy to take some of your money.

No. Ground zero is definitely El Centro. There are 8 or 9 strip clubs (although only 3 get mentioned), 15-20 casas (only a few get mentioned), a few blocks of streetwalkers and 30 or 40 bars where women of negotiable affection hang out. During the day, there's shopping, for anything you can imagine. Need a live chicken? An industrial sewing machine? A wrought iron gate? Anything you want, need or can think of, there are a dozen stores in El Centro selling it. There's museums and parks and restaurants.

Yes, El Centro can be dangerous. You can't pretend you're walking down the Las Vegas strip at 3 am. It's not a good place to be drunk and stupid.

Parque Lleras isn't the center of the local Paisa scene. When my friend's family came to visit for Christmas last year, where do you think they wanted to go? El Centro. They wanted to see the heart of the city, not another zona rosa. A lot of Paisas go to Lleras for special occasions, but most will go to a different area for their regular entertainment. There's a local scene in Bello, Boston, Envigado, 3 or more in Laureles, 1 or 2 in Itagui and at least 2 in El Centro.

[JjBee62]

Agreed.

South Koreans eats between 800,000-1,000,000 dogs a year. To eat dog there would may be frowned upon but acceptable. But in most Western countries you would be shunned and lose many friends. Same with Balot / Balut in the Philippines. I find it disgusting. But there it is normal and sold all over. Smoking marijuana in USA was looked upon very poorly when I was a kid, now it is becoming legal and normal, and in a few years it will be expected if you want to be cool. So the more people that do something the more accepted it is.

Hot Colombian women get hit on every day and know at least one hot friend, family member, or co-worker that has done P4P so it would be somewhat easy to accepted it and try it. If some guy she wants to sex says not only is he interested but is willing to sweeten the pot by paying her or buying her something. Then she now has two reasons to go for it and two excuses if her friends disagree. She can say she wanted to sex him anyways or take the other route and say I only sexed him for the money. Whatever excuse fits her needs. Very far from being ridiculous.

For me, if some chick I think looks kinda cute and has a great personality but chubby body that I am not really interested in offers me $100 USD to bang her. I might just do it because I am bored, too lazy to hunt that night, need the money, turned on because she wants me that bad, and / or I am just doing Gods work to help the less physically beautiful women.

There's one word you need to learn and add before this makes any sense: "some."

"Some hot Colombian women get hit on every day."

"Some hot Colombian women know at least one hot friend, family member or co-worker who has done P4P."

I can guarantee that not all hot Colombian women will find it easy to accept P4P. They will not all try to justify it to their friends. They will not all make excuses to their friends to justify it.

I know a few hot Colombian women. I shared an apartment with 1 for 10 months. I worked with several others. I talked with, drank with and hung out with several more. Some of them have no problem with P4P. Some of them know girls who do P4P. And some of them will either slap you in the face, kick you in the balls or scream bloody murder if you offer them money or some gift for sex.

Here's the trap too many mongers fall into: they start to think every woman in whatever country is a prostitute. They try to rationalize it, because all the women they spend time with accept money for sex. Whether it's legal or not, it's not universally acceptable.

Trying to convince people that any hot Colombian woman will be happy to be offered money for sex is not only ridiculous, it's dangerous. There are a lot of Colombian women who don't like being treated like prostitutes and a lot of Colombian men who don't like foreigners treating their wives, girlfriends, sisters or cousins like prostitutes.

It's quite simple. If you see a Colombian you are interested in, say Hello,. Talk to them. Colombians are generally friendly. If they seem interested, try inviting them to lunch or coffee. Talk, have a conversation and see where it goes. If she's interested in having sex with you, she'll let you know. If she's willing to take money from you and pretend to be interested in having sex with you, she'll let you know.

[PepolesBuddy]

My perception is you have to always be on guard and the streets at night are truly dangerous.

I need to buckle up and go next week.

You also have to be on guard at Lleras. Lots of pickpockets or prepagos trying to drug you. I almost had a mal parido pickpocket my cell phone. He was very slick.

He tried to distract me with a big pamphlet of shit and tried to rob my cell phone from my front pocket while looking at me in the eyes. I actually respect him for that and almost wanted to give him a tip😂 anyone can rob someone from the back or with a weapon. But it takes balls and cunning to look someone in the eyes and try to rob them face-to-face. He almost succeeded to but luckily I automatically moved my hands to my pockets and felt that he was trying to take my cell. My advice is when someone is coming close to you. Always have your hand on your valuables.

[El Mechanico]

Why do you say that. I get that some apartment owner / leasers are a bit hokey with the ground zero mirage they paint renting Lleres apartments but Centro seems like a relatively low rent scene by day and by night only several well known strip clubs and I imagine a few other less populated establishments. My perception is you have to always be on guard and the streets at night are truly dangerous. To me ground zero seems like the center of the action. Lleres would be considered center of or ground zero of Medellin's paisa locals scene but surely less opportunity for mongers than a single club like Fase. True? Centro seems like a scene all to itself but not a large scene.

I need to buckle up and go next week.

I just replied to your PM. Maybe if PL is Ground Zero then El Centro is the Heart of the Beast. There are at least 6 MPs within a 2 block radius of Hotel Botero Plaza & Iglesia VeraCruz is about a less than 10 minute walk from there. Let us know how you do, thanks in advance and as usual, stay vigilant.

El Mechanico.

[Chicafan]

When you are done with Ground Zero at Parque LLeras, go to the real Ground Zero, El Centro, then compare notes.

El Mechanico.

Why do you say that. I get that some apartment owner / leasers are a bit hokey with the ground zero mirage they paint renting Lleres apartments but Centro seems like a relatively low rent scene by day and by night only several well known strip clubs and I imagine a few other less populated establishments. My perception is you have to always be on guard and the streets at night are truly dangerous. To me ground zero seems like the center of the action. Lleres would be considered center of or ground zero of Medellin's paisa locals scene but surely less opportunity for mongers than a single club like Fase. True? Centro seems like a scene all to itself but not a large scene.

I need to buckle up and go next week.

[El Mechanico]

I'll be rolling into town on Jan 6th. Jan 19th. Going to spend 3 nights at The M and then have a 2 bedroom VRBO ground zero in Parque L for 9 nights.

When you are done with Ground Zero at Parque LLeras, go to the real Ground Zero, El Centro, then compare notes.

El Mechanico.

[Mongo1]

We will be in Medellin February, and March of 2019. Let me know if you would like to join! Newbies welcomed.

I'll be rolling into town on Jan 6th. Jan 19th. Going to spend 3 nights at The M and then have a 2 bedroom VRBO ground zero in Parque L for 9 nights.

[LoveItHere69]

My point being. When prostitution is legal. I suspect most hot girls have used P4P (at least as a side gig) to supplement their income. Especially if they have kids.

Agreed.

South Koreans eats between 800,000-1,000,000 dogs a year. To eat dog there would may be frowned upon but acceptable. But in most Western countries you would be shunned and lose many friends. Same with Balot / Balut in the Philippines. I find it disgusting. But there it is normal and sold all over. Smoking marijuana in USA was looked upon very poorly when I was a kid, now it is becoming legal and normal, and in a few years it will be expected if you want to be cool. So the more people that do something the more accepted it is.

Hot Colombian women get hit on every day and know at least one hot friend, family member, or co-worker that has done P4P so it would be somewhat easy to accepted it and try it. If some guy she wants to sex says not only is he interested but is willing to sweeten the pot by paying her or buying her something. Then she now has two reasons to go for it and two excuses if her friends disagree. She can say she wanted to sex him anyways or take the other route and say I only sexed him for the money. Whatever excuse fits her needs. Very far from being ridiculous.

For me, if some chick I think looks kinda cute and has a great personality but chubby body that I am not really interested in offers me $100 USD to bang her. I might just do it because I am bored, too lazy to hunt that night, need the money, turned on because she wants me that bad, and / or I am just doing Gods work to help the less physically beautiful women.

[JjBee62]

Hesitating between these places.

I know Tijuana well and have been several times. My system is perfectly set up that I can bang 10 chicks a day if I want to there, without moving from the hotel. But I'm a bit bored of Tijuana and want to explore new horizons LOL.

-Not looking for GFE or flirting / picking up non-pros.

-Only looking for pros, and don't like to move around too much. It's all about getting many girls a day, without wasting time, straight to the point.

-My budget is flexible.

-I enjoy my comfort aka having a nice hotel close to everything.

-Spanish level. Intermediate.

Did a bit of research and I'm open to both places (Medellin: casas + strip clubs) or Sosua (bars). Input? Thanks!

If you want Tijuana, go to Tijuana. Anywhere else you won't find what you find in Tijuana. Too many guys complain that the new place they tried wasn't like the place they were used to.

It's been a few years since I visited Sosua. I had a good time, but I wasn't especially thrilled. The girls tend to be too pushy for my tastes. Being a bit forward is great. I appreciate a girl that can give me a look and let me know she's ready for me. I don't care for girls that are constantly grabbing or begging. The touts were easier to get rid of than some of the girls. One girl who I wasn't interested in my first night, approached me every time she saw me, begged, whined and complained. It didn't matter what I was doing either.

Medellin is a completely different animal. They have malls that are almost the size of Sosua. By my rating, 70% of the appropriate aged women in Sosua were 5's or 6's. In Medellin 70% are 7's, 8's or 9's.

There's a little game I play. Call it "would I hit it?" Walk around where the people are and count the women in the 18-35 range. Adjust ages for your preference. For each one, would you consider fucking her? Be honest. We've all lowered our standards a time or two. In the US, except for a few locations, I consistently score 3. That means for every 10 women in the age range, I'd only fuck 3. In Sosua, I'd put the number between 4 and 5. In Medellin, I consistently scored 7 or 8.

Those are numbers for normal locations, except for Sosua. There are no normal locations in Sosua. Walking through Raudal and Veracruz in Medellin, I score 3, sometimes less.

Advantages for Sosua: almost anywhere is close to everything. Hotel Europa is the farthest away and it's just a short walk.

Disadvantage: there's a mandatory negotiation process for each girl. Also, daytime your options are limited.

Advantages for Medellin: plenty of options day and night. Daytime there are several casas, with onsite rooms, all within walking distance of each other. That gives you 50-100 women to choose from within about a 5 block radius. At night there are several strip clubs within walking distance, depending on your comfort level, with onsite rooms and plenty of women to choose from. Then there are the online ads, photosprepagos and mileroticos. Add in a few hundred more options day or night. Prices range from $17-$70.

Disadvantage: If you want a nice, upscale hotel, you'll be staying away from the main action. There also may be issues with having guests. If you want to stay close to the action, a 2 star hotel is about the best you can get. However, if you get a nice hotel in Laureles, close to the Metro, you can be where the action is, in under 15 minutes, for less than $1.

If you're interested in high numbers, without a lot of wasted time, the casas in Medellin are probably your best bet. You could find 3 of your desired 10 a day in one casa. No negotiation, no pick up. Just sit down, pick one out of the lineup.