FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[Steve 9696]

Always good to read updated comparisons of our favorite clubs as FKKs can change from one moment to the next.

I second this. Very few people have the real world experience to compare the clubs. So it is very helpful when one shares encyclopedic first hand knowledge. Thanks P4 I.

[PayForIt]

We all know this is Sharks thread! This is why we visit this thread.
Your question is specifically about Palace. Is it so hard for you to post your query in the Palace thread, if you want to discuss it in public.

Nick I don't know why you need to act like an angry schoolmaster who thinks he should tell others what to write. The question was a comparison on clubs v Sharks. It was therefore entirely appropriate to respond. As many others did. The tone of your response was wholly unnecessary and churlish. When someone asks for comparisons to consider going to Sharks or elsewhere making an analysis is perfectly reasonable. That lead to another comment which prompted my question within the thread and I don't need you to tell me where to post it. Lighten up. Others appeared to be very happy with the discussion. I will answer your barbed and sarcastic "is it so hard for you to post your query in the Palace threat" question (though no use of question mark makes me think it as a statement not a question) with a question of my own. Would it have been so hard for you to politely ask "gents - as this appears to be moving towards a topic of Palace renovations can I ask that you move it to the Palace thread?"

[NegotiateHard]

All of you guys who are close enough to even have the convenience to visit FKK clubs even once a month without having to sit on a plane for 10+ hours are pretty damn lucky. Being a resident of southern California in the USA I can write with full honesty and echo opinions shared by people around me that we are extremely sex-starved here. Wherever it is legal, sex is extremely overpriced and unaffordable with model material sex workers. For some of you guys, to be able to just go to a place like a FKK club after work or on a day off and enjoy all the unlimited buffet and drinks and be able to even look at all these naked girls walking around is pretty awesome.

Although while living in Southern California, there is access to Tijuana Mexico and its red-light distrct, services like DFK, BBBJ and DATY are not offered by the great majority of the top girls working in the top bars / clubs. The sex can very well be mediocre. I have even been prohibited sometimes to be able to suck on a girls tits in these bars, where pricing is very similar to FKK club pricing! What a load of garbage! Escort services in Tijuana will include the extra services I mentioned, but I am often being disappointed by the quality of women available and seeing as I can't even have access to pictures of an escort's face, there have been about 1/3 experiences where the girl doesn't even have a nice face. 1/3 will have a nice face but a flabby / baby-damaged body and 1/3 escorts that show up actually have a beautiful face and body. 1/3 might even be an exaggeration for the amount that show up with a nice face and body. Might be less.

Now, the last time I was at this club was in late July. This was my first visit and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I had a room with Romanian Scarlett, who was such a sweetheart. That slender beautiful body with creamy white skin, brown hair and beautiful face will not be forgotten. A lot of you guys have written about her and I could see myself looking for her again on a future visit. I was upsold to do 60 minutes for 100 E with DFK BBBJ and DATY. I took it because outside of getting a rare gem escort in Mexico (very rare BTW) this could never be offered anywhere for this price near where I live whether in the USA or Mexico. Maybe Canada? Who knows. Never mongered there. I was so unaccustomed to BBBJ, it was pretty hard for me to not bust just from this part alone. It did not take me too long to finish once it came to the sex. Magical experience after all that mediocrity with Tijuana's sex scene and to me, the non-existent or illegal USA sex scene.

One peculiar experience I had was with a girl in Sharks who has curly blonde hair and blue eyes (hair is probably colored and blue eyes might be colored contacts) and freckles. The girl was not fully naked but wore some black lingerie exposing her breasts. The breasts were medium size. She also had a red tattoo of kissing lips on her ass. I had tried to invite this girl to the room but she sad she was busy. Various attempts afterwards were met with her still being busy although I caught her doing rooms with a few other guys. She spoke English with an East-European accent. She didn't sound German however she spoke fluent German. I even saw this girl with some kind of fan club or little group of some sort. Anyone know who this girl was? I found her to be quite rude and it seems like she was some girl who had developed a following in Sharks because she had some regular group of guys she would talk to.

Outside of that, I really enjoyed being there. For people have experience in both FKK clubs in Germany and the red-light districts in Tijuana Mexico, why do you think the Tijuana sex services in the clubs can be so mediocre in comparison? Just by reading the threads, one can note that people in this thread write about some epic trips and service, and nightmarish experiences are much more commonly being written about in the top bars of Tijuana.

[Turgid]

So here's my 2 cents: Sharks offers better value for money for the reasons you've already set out. I too like Artemis and I love the layout and the Gym. I'm not a kino fan but know Artemis has 2. Sharks had one (downstairs on the right past the bar. But it's gone now. Pros and cons of Mainhattan and Palace....................

Always good to read updated comparisons of our favorite clubs as FKKs can change from one moment to the next.

[Nick The G]

Tell us more please. I know this is the Sharks thread but Canary's request was a comparison of clubs to Sharks. What else has changed at Palace. It could tempt me back. Just decor, or new facilities and critically. Has the LU improved? Thanks.

We all know this is Sharks thread! This is why we visit this thread.
Your question is specifically about Palace. Is it so hard for you to post your query in the Palace thread, if you want to discuss it in public.

[Pistons]

Thanks for the info Pistons. I did not know there was a renovation. Tell us more please. I know this is the Sharks thread but Canary's request was a comparison of clubs to Sharks. What else has changed at Palace. It could tempt me back. Just decor, or new facilities and critically. Has the LU improved? Thanks.

I haven't been there. But tempted to go on Friday for the 15th anniversary.

[PayForIt]

Payforit: I kind of agree with you regarding Palace. I too felt the exact same way as you. But recently after the renovation finished 2-3 months ago, the sentiment has improved. And I am personally a bit interested again. I noticed your Palace description was prior to the renovation (there is no smoke room any longer). And given his love for cinema's, Palace has the best cinema. The only cinema aside from Wellcum cinema I would rate above Artemis cinema.

Thanks for the info Pistons. I did not know there was a renovation. Tell us more please. I know this is the Sharks thread but Canary's request was a comparison of clubs to Sharks. What else has changed at Palace. It could tempt me back. Just decor, or new facilities and critically. Has the LU improved? Thanks.

[Canary]

So here's my 2 cents: Sharks offers better value for money for the reasons you've already set out. I too like Artemis and I love the layout and the Gym. I'm not a kino fan but know Artemis has 2. Sharks had one (downstairs on the right past the bar. But it's gone now. Pros and cons of Mainhattan and Palace. Pro's. Closer to centre of Frankfurt. Both about 20 euros from Hauptbahnof. I've never taken PT to either. Cheaper to return after a night though I stay at Maritim in Sharks which is reasonable and lower priced than FRA hotels and get the train back the next day. So about even. Less girls in both clubs. Palace girls are older and more akin to Artemis. But with some younger girls too. No outdoors. Massive con for me. Even when its cold I like to get fresh air. Sharks is smokey in the bar (con) but has great outdoors (Pro). Palace has no outdoors (con). Palace girls are more sharky than most places IMHO (con). In both Mainhattan and Sharks it is increasigly difficult. Though not impossible, to get BBBJ / great service for 50/30. I tend now to say I'll do 100/60 if both are included. Of course you can never guarantee what great service is. Some girls are just better than others, but mostly they'll try harder if they are getting more money. In Sharks a deal for 100/60 includes BBBJ with 99% of the girls..

Thanks for taking the time to write up a detailed comparison of the Clubs.

It's certainly food for thought if I give one of the other Clubs a try next month.

I'm in Sharks next week so depending on how good / bad it is it will help make my mind up what to do.

As you say "variety is the spice of life" but of course the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

[Pistons]

Payforit: I kind of agree with you regarding Palace. I too felt the exact same way as you. But recently after the renovation finished 2-3 months ago, the sentiment has improved. And I am personally a bit interested again. I noticed your Palace description was prior to the renovation (there is no smoke room any longer). And given his love for cinema's, Palace has the best cinema. The only cinema aside from Wellcum cinema I would rate above Artemis cinema.

[Sirioja]

In my early FKK life I spent a lot of time at Artemis & throughly enjoyed myself however in the last year all my visits (other than one visit to Oase) have been to Sharks.

I do miss the numerous fake boobs, the better layout of Artemis and most of all I miss the the Kinos. However Sharks has a cheaper entrance fee, cheaper girls prices & has a huge selection of girls, if it had a Kino it would be superb.

However after another visit to Sharks next week I'm seriously tempted to try Palace or Mainhatten next month. What has stopped me in the past from going to Palace or Mainhatten is that so many people tell me these are expensive, tourist venues that are no where near the value for money that Sharks offers.

Would any experienced members who've attended all three venues be able to to give me a balanced "pro's & Con's" to the three Clubs please. Any info would be appreciated.

No more kino at Sharks, kino at Palace and Mainhattan. Numerous girls at Sharks, but few are prettier at Palace or even at Mainhattan. According to girls who leave Sharks, cheap sex club now. A Hungarian girl explained me most of her rooms were for only 50 at Sharks, when she is a really passionate GFE with a pretty, sophisticated look, face, so of course she welcome me when I treat her like my GF for 1 h30 for 150 , because she is so generous and sensitive with me. Maybe she changed look or was very hidden under the bar, because she knew me from Sharks, when I never noticed her. I m sure she would have stayed at Sharks for my weekly business, but she is more interesting than any club.

[PayForIt]

In my early FKK life I spent a lot of time at Artemis & throughly enjoyed myself however in the last year all my visits (other than one visit to Oase) have been to Sharks.

I do miss the numerous fake boobs, the better layout of Artemis and most of all I miss the the Kinos. However Sharks has a cheaper entrance fee, cheaper girls prices & has a huge selection of girls, if it had a Kino it would be superb.

However after another visit to Sharks next week I'm seriously tempted to try Palace or Mainhatten next month. What has stopped me in the past from going to Palace or Mainhatten is that so many people tell me these are expensive, tourist venues that are no where near the value for money that Sharks offers.

Would any experienced members who've attended all three venues be able to to give me a balanced "pro's & Con's" to the three Clubs please. Any info would be appreciated.

So here's my 2 cents: Sharks offers better value for money for the reasons you've already set out. I too like Artemis and I love the layout and the Gym. I'm not a kino fan but know Artemis has 2. Sharks had one (downstairs on the right past the bar. But it's gone now. Pros and cons of Mainhattan and Palace. Pro's. Closer to centre of Frankfurt. Both about 20 euros from Hauptbahnof. I've never taken PT to either. Cheaper to return after a night though I stay at Maritim in Sharks which is reasonable and lower priced than FRA hotels and get the train back the next day. So about even. Less girls in both clubs. Palace girls are older and more akin to Artemis. But with some younger girls too. No outdoors. Massive con for me. Even when its cold I like to get fresh air. Sharks is smokey in the bar (con) but has great outdoors (Pro). Palace has no outdoors (con). Palace girls are more sharky than most places IMHO (con). In both Mainhattan and Sharks it is increasigly difficult. Though not impossible, to get BBBJ / great service for 50/30. I tend now to say I'll do 100/60 if both are included. Of course you can never guarantee what great service is. Some girls are just better than others, but mostly they'll try harder if they are getting more money. In Sharks a deal for 100/60 includes BBBJ with 99% of the girls. In Mainhattan and Palace you'll still have to persuade some that its a deal. They will want to tell you its 100/30 inc BBBJ. If you stand firm you'll get it for 100/60 but you need to have the negotiation. Which is boring and should be unnecessary but its more likely to happen in Palace and Mainhattan (con). The food in Mainhattan is rarely good in my experience and hit and miss in Palace. I usually think the food in Sharks is good (con). The rooms are better in Mainhattan than both clubs, again IMHO. Bigger, not as hot or cold (depending on time of year). Both Mainhattan and Palace have designated smoking areas (pro) though the one in Palace rarely has doors closed (not even sure if has doors!) but the one in Mainhattan definitely does and the glass doors are closed unless people are using them (big pro unless you are a smoker and don't care). Mainhattan and Palace have one professional massage room. Sharks now has 4 (con). Entry price in Palace is 75 e (con).

So given the above, why go to Mainhattan or Palace at all? Well, variety is the spice of life they say. It's good to try new venues. I tend to avoid Palace now. I don't dislike the club but the last 4 visits the LU was poor for me. This always evolves and could be great next week! But the overall impression of the club, sharky girls, older girls, no outdoors means I'm probably done with it. My last trip in November I actually spent 2 hours in Sharks with no rooms and took the train back to FRA and a cab to Mainhattan as I'the found a few peaches there and decided to return.

If I were you, I'the definitely try Mainhattan at least once. If you go early enough and it is poor, get the train to Darmstadt / Sharks. However I think both Palace and Mainhattan are more "nightclub" type clubs than Sharks (probably because the latter has such a good outdoor area compared to the other two). But it's worth trying other clubs. Finally, if you liked Artemis and Sharks you (like me) are likely to be a bigger fan of big clubs than of small clubs. Mainhattan is pretty small. Palace is smaller than Artemis and Sharks but feels dark and enclosed. I like the bright open spaces in Artemis outside the main lounge. I particularly like the downstairs areas by the pool / gym / small sports bar. I think you might initially think Mainhattan is very small. But the rooms are good, there are some good choices in the LU normally. So I'the give it a shot. Hope that helps.

[ExpatLover]

In my early FKK life I spent a lot of time at Artemis & throughly enjoyed myself however in the last year all my visits (other than one visit to Oase) have been to Sharks.

I do miss the numerous fake boobs, the better layout of Artemis and most of all I miss the the Kinos. However Sharks has a cheaper entrance fee, cheaper girls prices & has a huge selection of girls, if it had a Kino it would be superb.

However after another visit to Sharks next week I'm seriously tempted to try Palace or Mainhatten next month. What has stopped me in the past from going to Palace or Mainhatten is that so many people tell me these are expensive, tourist venues that are no where near the value for money that Sharks offers.

Would any experienced members who've attended all three venues be able to to give me a balanced "pro's & Con's" to the three Clubs please. Any info would be appreciated.

Palace is mostly a club for fair visitors and sex tourist, no possibility to see the sky, no even a small garden. Mahattan belongs to the HA as finca and world and FKK Leipzig, it is city club therefor also full of tourist. A lot of Turkish around after 8 PM. Their LU are far smaller compare to Shark, I was a regular of both clubs but stopped to visit them, shark is far better at least for me.

[Ortos]

Please do not bother us in this thread with internal American issues here that are based on a messed up and narrow-minded moral in "God's own country".

This is a page dealing with a completely different context and open-mindedness: the FKK Club Sharks in Germany in Europe.

Yeah, I agree completely. We all know those Americans are all a bunch of Rappers*, drug-dealers and gang members (D or R). Let's build a Wall around Sharks and keep them all out, ja? Let's Make FKK Geil Again!

*I tried to use the correct word starting with "R", but this site keeps making it a "Code Word."

[Goth Fkk]

Bea is her name. You can find her near the Fish tank.

Thanks. I can't wait to go "fishing" for Bea next month.

[Nick The G]

If you visit so cal area a lot. PM me and I will give you the info. Search HX with various key word like escort, hooker etc. Will bring you to the site. Most girl will not see newbie because you have no review. Yes the girl will review you as to if you are safe to see or not. For newbie, you got to know some one who is an establish member with lot of review contacting the girl for you. Because some girl block all newbie. There is a few thing you can do to let the girl know for sure that you are not LE. Just do what a cop will never do. Like take your pant off and start to grope the girl as soon as the door close. They will feel a lot more comfortable. There is a few agency, I stay away because the price are too high. Most are independent. Again, I don't know how long this site will last in Cali until they shut it down.

Please do not bother us in this thread with internal American issues here that are based on a messed up and narrow-minded moral in "God's own country".

This is a page dealing with a completely different context and open-mindedness: the FKK Club Sharks in Germany in Europe.