German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[BigBuddy69]

I don't know about the ethnicity of the owners but those 2 last years I had good encounters in 6 sense.

And maybe I'm the only one but I never realized so many differences in the optic department between sharks and LR or sharks and Finca. More girls yes, prettier 'not so sure. Between Sharks and Aca gold the difference in optics is obvious.

[Sirioja]

I understand here is FKK forum with many FKK fans, so let's not discuss further about FKK WGs except to think about all the posts on this subject including mine.

With regards to Dutch clubs, can anyone name one Dutch club which has the same quality of WG's service as GT, LR, Babylon, Finca, Luder Lounge, Villa Venus and other German clubs owned by ETHNIC Germans (not Turkish Germans)?

What is a WG quality? For me = the pickiest guy, first she has to be pretty and a bit elegant, then it s only guy skill and behavior to be able to get what he wants from her, to give her the will to give him, even when paying. Some guys will report some girls are lazy or don t kiss, when these girls just want to give only suck and fuck to these guys. We have to be 2 into, for good time.

Then, I had great girls at YY, at least 5 since November 2017, 3 asking for orgasmus with 1 who was upset when I didn t succeed to give her, more than at Sharks + Oase at same time, at least same level than GT for these girls potential. Had also 1 very good surprise at 6 ens, not busy, probably because too elegant sophisticated, but despite small silicon, a real woman in bed, not a little upselling GND, this just for 100 for 1 very full GFE hour.

About Globe, yes more expensive, but really higher level for woman type looks and for level in bed, for 130 €/30 mn, not so much more expensive than some Sharks or Oase little girls. Real women don t upsell at Sharks.

But better to visit to be able to know, and also to be able to deserve from girls.

[Pistons]

I understand here is FKK forum with many FKK fans, so let's not discuss further about FKK WGs except to think about all the posts on this subject including mine.

With regards to Dutch clubs, can anyone name one Dutch club which has the same quality of WG's service as GT, LR, Babylon, Finca, Luder Lounge, Villa Venus and other German clubs owned by ETHNIC Germans (not Turkish Germans)?

SixSense probably above all on your list. Maybe Babylon has the same level as SixSense. Some girls have gone between SS and Babylon Elsdorf a few times the past year for this reason I suppose. GT certainly below (and below YY too). No idea about Villa Venus or Luder Lounge.

[Mr Ho]

At Globe, you can pay 130 for 140 CHF. Can also pay in USD, also at Aphro.

The price in ZH Globe becoming within same price range as some German FKK like Artemis and Palace etc. NRW is the only hope for fair enough pricing nowadays.

[Takedown]

They can happen both fast and slow. Time is a relative term. Media companies get extremely well paid in order to force through paradigm changes on grand scales. One such thing is the 'global warming'. So not all paradigm changes happens organically. Some do, but also some are forced through with the help of the media.

Speed was a irrelevant side point. Organically and praticality were the real points.

Global warming: that's called informing the public of you know, facts. Yet 50 years later and over half of the world's population doesn't give a fuck.

You're basically making my point with media induced paradigm shifts. Look how well those agendas have been going. Feminism: clusterfuck with men playing along to either get laid covertly or to protect their careers. Forced Liberalism: conservative and nationalist backlash that has led to Trump, Brexit, and possibly future Italian and Hungarian nationalist regression.

Successful paradigm shifts short of war and revolutions where people were you know, starving and dying, generally do not happen abruptly from abstract nutjobs who consider themselves free thinkers, forcing impractical, abstract ideas down people's throats.

What happens when nutjobs with abstract ideas prevail? Fucking return of measles and polio.

[Bfsie]

I understand here is FKK forum with many FKK fans, so let's not discuss further about FKK WGs except to think about all the posts on this subject including mine.

With regards to Dutch clubs, can anyone name one Dutch club which has the same quality of WG's service as GT, LR, Babylon, Finca, Luder Lounge, Villa Venus and other German clubs owned by ETHNIC Germans (not Turkish Germans)?

[Bfsie]

I see your point regarding German management but also important is having a large contingent of ethnic German clientele. They seem to keep the standards high and spending expectation from girls low. However the problem with German owned clubs is that with the exception of GT, optic levels are usually lower compared to other clubs. Clubs like Babylon, Finca, LR generally keep a smaller line up with unspectacular optics.

You are absolutely correct and I completely agree with you. That is optic trade-off of good service which I talked about several times before. In the FKK clubs in the integrated region of Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Switzerland, optics and service compromise each other in theory and practice which I explained in one of my previous posts.

Switzerland is not exceptional as long as Romanian WGs dominate its scene. It is a waste of money if you go to Switzerland for optics because, as Swiss culture and tradition, any Swiss sex establishment would emphasize on the quality of service which would inevitably compromise the quality of optics. Yes, you will get it if you go there for WG’s service.

[Mr Ho]

At the extremes of this hobby, my opinion is there are people who are in denial. It is a defense mechanism. They imagine realities because they don't want to face the truth. If you truly have friends in private life, then I hope you are not neglecting these relationships.

I will say this: you certainly do not seem to be neglecting the German FKK threads. You seem to be quite active here, as well as inbox messaging, and my understanding is that your mongering in Germany only constitutes a small percentage of your overall mongering activity. You have over 3 K posts in the German FKK threads. One might reasonably assume that you have 30 K posts in Japan threads in Japanese language forums? Are you making posts while you are at the office?

Yeah, mostly at office, but also at home too usually at night and in the morning. Most of time, I just mess around here at forum, but sometimes, I do write seriously. Inbox is where it is more constantly serious rather little more intellectual communications goes on with those I became virtual friends with on this forum, which amaze me as most of time I do not take forum seriously, but I guess they were smart enough or nice enough to read between the line LOL.

It is good thing because even with 99% of my childhood friends, I do not share about my mongering life due to fear that it could leak out, so in a way, it is my secret life, so forum or more inbox is nice place to spend sometime and it does not take alot of time as you maybe were trying to point out, like this post I am writing now, it took me about 2 minutes to write, that is why most of time, again, this is sex forum and I do not take it too seriously, beside some inbox messaging and even some forum postings actually make me grow as person, like mr the cane and mr phallus maximus often write very intellectual posts that are inspiring and I did relate to install some of their thoughts. It is good input place also. And I do reply even to immature posts, which in part I am guilty of as I do write non serious staff on forum most of times, but hey I am in my late 30's, and how old are those guys getting frustrate at me? LOL.

And no, I do not write on Japanese sex forum, most posts are even less quality here and at home ground I have full control of what I am doing to get most beautiful eurasians that are rare here, as for FKK, I go one to three trips per year max when I can, one trip is must no matter how busy I am or sometimes I cannot bother to travel as I have been doing western beauties since age 17 began in switzerland, so I sometimes force myself to go, though once I am there excitement comes back. When I began FKK, I used to do about 10 days to max 14 days consecutive FKK trip one time per year, then I later divided that to 2 or 3 trips of just 5 consecutive FKK days due to efficiency and in par performance, well performance part I met cialis and that solved it. I guess this answer some questions for you?

But what I do not get is this. I just do not get why some people try to get relationship with prostitutes in FKK, this is not to insult prostitutes or nothing like that, but what I mean is that, FKK is brothel, it is not place to seek for soul mate or someone you can deeply connect with, brothel is place to have sex. I have good relation with girls I repeat, but that good relation stay in FKK because what happen in FKK stays in FKK, sometimes they write me on e-mail, but I know it is just a sales mail and these girls are not serious, I think seeking relationship in FKK with prostitutes are dangerous both men and prostitutes and there are some cases in past that escalated to very sad vicious crime because of that and clients who seek relationship with girls is worst clients mentally for girls, good money though they said. Most close friends that last for life are made in high school and university, not in brothel.

[Sirioja]

No. I paid in francs 280/30. 380/45.

I just put it in Euros at more or less current exchange rate. Since I was speaking to a German forum.

At Globe, you can pay 130 € for 140 CHF. Can also pay in USD, also at Aphro.

[McAdonis]

There have been clubs in Emmerich before (Fun Garden, Lekker Ding), but they always struggle. Schuttdorf is near the border as well and Golden Dreams always struggled to get decent line ups, until they left. Just 20 miles down the A3 from Emmerich you have SC Venus and Gallardo (previously Marisol), all of which struggle to get anything going that resembles the bigger clubs (although Venus can be nice for a few hours). Simply put, (I think) that far north there aren't enough people to make clubs with many girls successful. Neither in Germany nor in the Netherlands. If you are travelling from the bigger Ducth cities (Amsterdam, Utrecht, Rotterdam), you'll be on the road for a while anyway and the difference between Bruggen and Emmerich won't matter. Believe me, I do this a few times each month and normally I breeze past Emmerich and Hamminkeln towards clubs I want to visit. Or I cross the border at Venlo (smack in between Yin Yang and Golden Time).

Have some of these clubs you mentioned closed? You seem to speak about a few in past tense. Can you elaborate on why SC Venus is only nice for a few hours? You have always seemed the most knowledgeable on the smaller NRW clubs that nobody else talks about or even hear of.

How would you rank these smaller clubs in terms of LU size, service, or optics? Diamond, Gallardo, Great Palace, Havana, SC Venus, Harem, Tutti Frutti, Van Goch, Xanten, Zeus, DejaVu, Salome, Neby, Aplerbeck, Luder Lounge or any other ones I may have missed. I mean, if someone had an interest in branching out and exploring these smaller places, are there a few that you would recommend above the others?

[McAdonis]

Have you tried www.mysugardaddy.eu? Any luck if you did?

Thanks for the reminder. No I haven't. I intend to look into it. I can be quite lazy when it comes to exploring alternatives. I will probably be inboxing you whenever I do.

[McAdonis]

Mr McAdonis,

OK, one of my more serious post and not one of my mostly usual messing around post.

This is why I make sure I have friends in private life that I have known for years since I was kids or teen, I treasure those relationship, in many cases, I cannot discuss even with them about what I do in area of mongering, so for that, I made some friends online who I interact more seriously like this at inbox private messages of this forum.

I think as human, it is important to have people who one can talk to, I just think that person do not need to be prostitutes for sake and mental health of both parties.

At the extremes of this hobby, my opinion is there are people who are in denial. It is a defense mechanism. They imagine realities because they don't want to face the truth. If you truly have friends in private life, then I hope you are not neglecting these relationships.

I will say this: you certainly do not seem to be neglecting the German FKK threads. You seem to be quite active here, as well as inbox messaging, and my understanding is that your mongering in Germany only constitutes a small percentage of your overall mongering activity. You have over 3 K posts in the German FKK threads. One might reasonably assume that you have 30 K posts in Japan threads in Japanese language forums? Are you making posts while you are at the office?

[Pistons]

Paradigm changes happen slowly and organically, not abruptly through forcing abstract concepts that are irrelevant to the practical time frame. More often then not, they are too abstract and if abstract change is forced prematurely, it becomes disruptive to the ecosystem and in the end just fucks up the present.

Theory without practicality is a cousin to extremist ideology.

They can happen both fast and slow. Time is a relative term. Media companies get extremely well paid in order to force through paradigm changes on grand scales. One such thing is the 'global warming'. So not all paradigm changes happens organically. Some do, but also some are forced through with the help of the media.

[Pistons]

Yeah, what is "degrading"? A word, no more. If enough people say something is degrading then it is degrading I guess. But to the naturists who came up with the term "FKK," the human body was something to be celebrated rather than be ashamed of. And there are many beauties who take joy in exhibiting their strengths.

Indeed. Some of these people do something called fitness competitions. In a Wellcum video, a girl there named Ruby decribes her job as a type of 'modelling job'.

[Steve 9696]

Did you pay in at Aphrodisia? 240 for 280 CHF? If so, interesting change. How much for 45 mn 380 CHF?

Kate worked for years around Frankfurt, before Globe. Many girls at Globe or Aphrodisia worked before in Germany or Austria, and improved in Switzerland where money talk. Best business for girls is at Globe, but not all girls are able to succeed there, when some sweet girls like Megan or Tina succeed at Globe, adapting to rules.

No. I paid in francs — 280/30. 380/45.

I just put it in Euros at more or less current exchange rate. Since I was speaking to a German forum.