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  1. #13330
    Wawawetwet,

    Maybe half the forum here is Asian. And after awhile you realize that westerners and Asians have a slightly different take on beauty also. Many Asians preferring skinny or slim legs, while westerners care more about tits or shape of butt. Facial beauty preferences are also different for everyone here. And it changes as we age too. So take everything for a grain of salt that you read here regarding optics. And certain posters have personal vendettas against other posters or clubs. So better just scout yourself. For someone new to it, you cannot really go wrong anywhere. But if you do nrw, get a rental car in case you want to switch club and perhaps try to find out when a club has entry discounts (this goes for everywhere).

  2. #13329
    Quote Originally Posted by Wawawetwet  [View Original Post]
    Also I am not sure with what you are referring with the following quote:

    For example know the poster's preferences. I am optics oriented but will stray..
    I meant that you will see information which is subjective by nature so it would be good to know your source. Some guys prefer optics, some service, some have other criteria. Any review from me will generally be regarding slim girls with pretty faces. You can bet that Optimist will give good service recommendations. Endorsement of a club from Sirioja would be because he found one girl he likes. Some other guys have preferences for specific clubs no one else does, like any recommendation for Oceans.

  3. #13328
    Thanks a lot. This would be my first time to FKK and I am quite shy so thinking to go at the weekend in day time to avoid lots of customers, not sure if it is the right tactic.

    Also I am not sure with what you are referring with the following quote:

    For example know the poster's preferences. I am optics oriented but will stray.

    It is quite search threads from here, but will try harder with it.

    I am from overseas and recently I've tried to surf those FKK website (Sharks, Mainhatten etc.) but all cannot viewed. Is it happening the same from others?

    Or just poor me?

    Thank you.

  4. #13327
    Thanks for the info. Didn't realise we can bring in tablet or mobile. Will see if clubs in frankfurt would allow me to do so.

    Also it is a very good suggestion to have a walk outside and then come back later.

    As a geek of myself, I don't do socialise well so I might keep to myself and hang around the club instead.

    Thank you mate.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaneUppHosAss  [View Original Post]
    Hello Sir,

    Big clubs like those in Hessen have multiple channels of entertainment, fun, wellness and other things going on.

    What can you do?

    1. Fuck the girls. The main reason to be in the clubs. You have more than a hundred to choose from. Only limited by your wallet, stamina, and time.

    2. Ogle the girls. It is identical to being in a strip club, seeing all that pussy, tits, and ass on nonstop display.

    3. Eat, drink,. The bigger clubs do have decent spreads. Adult Drinks are a tad expensive but not outrageously so..

  5. #13326
    Just go there without willing absolutely to session so you will keep the control of everything and even in the worst scénario leaving without having sex. It is a least what I am doing.

  6. #13325
    My 2 cents. Most girls are okay with bringing your own condoms, some will give you resistance. Best time at most Frankfurt clubs is after 4 pm. Getting there at 1 pm is fine, just find one girl to clear the pipes and watch without stress as the night shift comes in between 4-8 pm. Oase has more upsell than other places but if you can negotiate 1 hour for 100 euro, then you are in the right price range. That changes on busier nights when conventions are in town. As for things to do, it's hard for or a newbie as the girls don't know you. All conversations with them will be sales propositions. Best thing to do is don't be weird and find other mongers who are also not weird then speak like normal people.

    I say read the threads and get a collective of information, not one man's opinion. Also, consider the source. For example know the poster's preferences. I am optics oriented but will stray. [Deleted by Admin].

    Quote Originally Posted by Wawawetwet  [View Original Post]
    Hi all,

    I am new to FKK and plan to visit soon and want to ask a few questions about FKK clubs:

    1. I know many of you would spend half or the full day at the club, so how do you kill your time in between? As far as I know mobile is not allowed inside, sounds like entertainment is limited except with girls.

    2. I prefer to use my own condom at all time, is it allow to bring in and use our own in FKK clubs?

    3. What would be the best time to go in terms of no. Of girls? And if arrive by 1 or 2 pm, would there be so few girls to choose from? I know it might depends on clubs but just want to know the general principle.

    4. It sounds like girls from Oase do a lot of upsell these days, are sharks, Mainhattan or palace do the same as well?

    Sorry with so many questions from a newbie!

  7. #13324
    Also,

    Sauna, Yaccuzzi, steam rooms, swimming pools, cinemas showing porn, patting the cats etc etc.

  8. #13323
    Hello Sir,

    Big clubs like those in Hessen have multiple channels of entertainment, fun, wellness and other things going on.

    What can you do?

    1. Fuck the girls. The main reason to be in the clubs. You have more than a hundred to choose from. Only limited by your wallet, stamina, and time.

    2. Ogle the girls. It is identical to being in a strip club, seeing all that pussy, tits, and ass on nonstop display.

    3. Eat, drink,. The bigger clubs do have decent spreads. Adult Drinks are a tad expensive but not outrageously so.

    4. Talk to the girls and other male guests. Socializing with other like minded men and pretty naked girls. What can be better?!

    5. Watch TV. They do have multiple big screen TVs and a lot of sport. Enjoy the music on the sound system. See the occasional pole dance by some girls. Perhaps join the dance yourself.

    6. Relax. In the garden if they have one, in quiet areas inside the club. Summers are glorious. Can fuck outdoors if you want to, au natural.

    7. Wellness — walk around; some clubs have one or two exercise machines. Do yoga by yourself if you wish.

    8. Mobile and tablets — depending on the club, this is possible. Some clubs have own WiFi. Be discrete, and don't point at others, and do your surfing in an area away from others. Use common sense.

    9. If none of these appeal to you, take a break, tell the front desk lady that you will be back and go into the town between sessions for whatever and come back to the club.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wawawetwet  [View Original Post]
    Hi all,

    I am new to FKK and plan to visit soon and want to ask a few questions about FKK clubs:

    1. I know many of you would spend half or the full day at the club, so how do you kill your time in between? As far as I know mobile is not allowed inside, sounds like entertainment is limited except with girls.

    2. I prefer to use my own condom at all time, is it allow to bring in and use our own in FKK clubs?

    3. What would be the best time to go in terms of no.

  9. #13322

    General questions on FKK clubs.

    Hi all,

    I am new to FKK and plan to visit soon and want to ask a few questions about FKK clubs:

    1. I know many of you would spend half or the full day at the club, so how do you kill your time in between? As far as I know mobile is not allowed inside, sounds like entertainment is limited except with girls.

    2. I prefer to use my own condom at all time, is it allow to bring in and use our own in FKK clubs?

    3. What would be the best time to go in terms of no. Of girls? And if arrive by 1 or 2 pm, would there be so few girls to choose from? I know it might depends on clubs but just want to know the general principle.

    4. It sounds like girls from Oase do a lot of upsell these days, are sharks, Mainhattan or palace do the same as well?

    Sorry with so many questions from a newbie!

  10. #13321
    Just adding to what Takedown wrote: Comparing Oase lineup to Sharks feels so much like comparing pears to apples. One can compare one day to the next day easily and then Oase always would win with everyone there like last Friday. But at Oase it is much easier to know all the girls in the top lineup. At Sharks I feel like the lineup is far more floating, and it is impossible to find every sharks girl there at the same day. But throughout a week, surely Sharks can be comparable. We just don't get the same single day wow factor at Sharks. Maybe also due to the layout and size of the club at Sharks, and many girls staying around for fewer hours in average per night usually. (Not telling you this I guess since you know, but other readers).

    At Oase one could see the top 10 girls probably within a matter of 30 minutes in the lounge. That never happens at Sharks. Too bad one reason for that is the increasing upselling at Oase, and the slightly higher time cheating observed there. So bring a watch, LOL Or this will get worse and worse and worse. Right now Oase might be fine for one night on a trip. But hardly 2 considering cost compared to other clubs.

  11. #13320
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    Finca, LR, and Acapulco shared similar optic levels but Aca's poor line up was mostly due to missing top optics on my visit. Perhaps LR suffered from the same random bad luck but I don't visit that club enough to know its max line up potential. As previously reported, Finca holds a place in my heart as it is a brothel stuck in time, a good time.
    I will say that unfortunately you were at there about 14 hours too early. The next day there were nearly twice as many women with a similar level of optics. So if there were 2 you liked the day I believe you visited, there statistically should have been 4 the next day. For the moment, it seems that LR starts picking up Thursday and builds through Saturday, ten slips off for the next four days.

  12. #13319
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Even though your taste in girls seems a bit off to me sometimes, I have to agree with your routine on performing in bed. Up and down mountains is the best way to improve blood flow in the thighs. Walking / running stairs is probably even better than cycling though. And no smoke / alcohol too.
    In Zoncolan or Mortirolo, I put my heart in red zone for more than 1 hour, really intense effort.

    No more link between la Grave la Meije and les 2 Alpes now so I may be one of the last who cross Glacier la Girose 3500 meters high for 1 hour to go and 1 hour to go back, no more lift, so have to push at such high altitude, before skiing down 2100 meters to la Grave, so would be easy to fuck a girl from the opening to the end but except my exceptional stamina German escort, I don t think another could resist. When she was exhausted, she closed her vagina, then had to open her with fingers, sometimes fucking for 3 hours, she was impressive stamina, second meeting was at YY on whatsapp appointment, we shared contact after first room, we knew.

  13. #13318
    Just returned from a 2 week trip with 8 days in clubs. 11 club visits, 23 rooms, with 19 different girls. Sharks, GT, and Samya all earned repeat visits although Samya only because I arranged to meet my extra services girl. Went with 12 girls for the first time and 7 known commodities. 10 rooms were 50 euro rooms, 8 were 100 euro for 1 hour, one 200 euro threesome, one room was 100 e for 45 minutes, a 1. 5 HR room, and then 3 pancake sessions with my extra services girl.

    A 3 day break in Portugal and another 2 day break in Dusseldorf / Netherlands helped to keep the batteries charged. Those breaks with some abstinence from the cannabis kept the manhood going so rooms were more successful than in past visits, only missed 2 pops in 23 rooms. I only got flashed for speeding once so lucky me, I did not have to do a Nelson Mendela impersonation in Swiss jail. Viva la resistance!

    Oase had the best optics but the upselling has been well documented. With so many land mines but also so many hot girls, my apprehension to room with new girls leaves me with so many high optic girls there to try. Despite the prevalent upsell in the club, long time girls like Carla and Adele are worth repeat visits. They even remembered the name of my dog!

    Sharks was close behind Oase in optics, perhaps even higher depending on individual taste. The upsell was tolerable although still very much prevalent. With so many missing girls this past visit, hopefully 2019 will be a good year as the familiar girls return.

    GT was probably a distant third in optics but the lack of upsell, warm reception, and reliable service make up for some of that. I only took 2 rooms on each of my visits but all were high quality rooms. Kate was the best performer but new girl Elisa could give her a run for her money.

    The line up at Yin Yang was a point below GT but 4-5 girls were good enough for me, although I only tried 2. I will say that my higher rating for GT might be because they are more dolled up there. Hopefully the pending closure of YY is blocked.

    Finca, LR, and Acapulco shared similar optic levels but Aca's poor line up was mostly due to missing top optics on my visit. Perhaps LR suffered from the same random bad luck but I don't visit that club enough to know its max line up potential. As previously reported, Finca holds a place in my heart as it is a brothel stuck in time, a good time.

  14. #13317
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    No risk, when most of girls say I fuck more than 20's guys, but 0 drug, 0 smoking, 0 alcohol, only sports in high mountains to improve blood, but only a spaghetti when I see her. Vulgarity make me becoming a spaghetti when girls who motivate my desire usually say to feel inside, usually having to be careful not to hurt them.
    Even though your taste in girls seems a bit off to me sometimes, I have to agree with your routine on performing in bed. Up and down mountains is the best way to improve blood flow in the thighs. Walking / running stairs is probably even better than cycling though. And no smoke / alcohol too.

  15. #13316
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    Ya lahwy, Sir Ioja, don't cry on her ass or she'll charge you for the extra.
    No risk, when most of girls say I fuck more than 20's guys, but 0 drug, 0 smoking, 0 alcohol, only sports in high mountains to improve blood, but only a spaghetti when I see her. Vulgarity make me becoming a spaghetti when girls who motivate my desire usually say to feel inside, usually having to be careful not to hurt them.

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