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03-06-19 07:59 #44057
Posts: 5501Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
See, I am a stickler for the sex act being defined by the way it ends exactly at the point of your orgasm, not by what happens before the end. Pretty much the way virtually all P4P girls define and charge for it.
Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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03-06-19 06:08 #44056
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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03-06-19 06:03 #44055
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
As far as pulling out just before cumming, it takes about 2 seconds after I pull out before I cum on the girl. That's far from masterbation.
I find cumming inside a girl to be anti-climactic. I need a grand finish for full satisfaction.
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03-06-19 05:47 #44054
Posts: 5501Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
LOL. Hell, I hated and resented having to masturbate when there were few other financially viable and agreeable options back in the USA. No way will I settle for that now that I have uprooted my life, divested myself of most worldly possessions and separated myself from my old friends and relatives to live out this last quarter at best of my life in Bangkok!
However, different strokes for different folks, of course. Enjoy.
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03-06-19 05:22 #44053
Posts: 5501Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
Mind you, my style is to get a BBFS+CIP agreement from the girl upfront or, as a possible fall back, a BBBJ+CIM agreement, before paying the barfine or taking the girl. I do not "go with the flow and see what happens in the room", although I am occasionally testing a new "go with the flow" method for just one venue; Thermae. But I'll save that for a different post. And, bear in mind, I have indeed had a vasectomy and will always have a recent HIV blood test document on hand to show IF the conversation goes there. It does on occasion.
I had estimated a few years ago that my success rate in getting EITHER a BBFS+CIP or a BBBJ+CIM with a suitably attractive girl by "going with the flow and see what happens in the room" and not getting an upfront agreement was no better than a dismal 20-25%. Which means a whopping 75%+ of the time I was going to wind up with no intercourse at all since engaging and finishing an act of vaginal intercourse wearing a condom has been impossible for me except for one time when I was about 20 years old, 45 years ago. Yet, not having confirmed anything upfront, I never felt I was entitled to withhold or drastically reduce payment of the going rate. After all, if I had not gotten an upfront agreement, I had no right to expect her to provide anything more than the general standard basic fare of lick around the edges, if that, cap on and proceed. I also had no right to think she'd misled me and withhold or reduce payment for that. She hadn't misled me if I hadn't told her the only two ways she could earn any money from me this night and held out for a clear agreement from her for it.
Anyway, I would say my success rate in getting girls to whom I am attracted and with whom I feel some essential sexual chemistry in those above venues to agree upfront to a True GFE (by far, mostly BBFS+CIP) and for a cost no more than, say, 500-1000 baht more than the going rate, is about 65-70%. 1000 baht more would be rare, but has happened. Most of the time it happens for no additional cost than the going rate. That is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of my "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" rate of success.
Here are a few things I have learned about getting a Thai P4P girl to agree upfront to BBFS+CIP with me (impossible for me to know how it is for others); Contrary to almost everything I'd heard and thought, it is EASIER to get it from younger, slimmer, better looking girls than from dumpy, older ladies. Contrary to almost everything I'd heard and thought, it is EASIER to get it from go-go dancers than from Freelancers on the street, girls in beer bars or those who work in massage shops, even the so-called PSE ones touted so highly for supposedly sex-crazed girls on these forums. Contrary to almost everything I'd heard and thought, it is EASIER to get it from better educated, more English-fluent girls than from the opposite types.
And on the Soi 4/Nana Hotel parking lot deaf girls option you mentioned, both of the two deaf girls I have approached and requested BBFS+CIP from in the past few months agreed to it for a higher fee. One agreed for 1,500 baht vs her opening quote of 1,000 baht. Another agreed for 2,500 baht! LOL. But I did not negotiate a better price with that one because I was so tickled and pleased with how quickly she changed her written starting point of 1,500 baht to 2,500 baht practically before I finished typing out the words "no condom" on my phone. I just laughed and mimed ok let's go.
However, I am not so interested in doing a deaf girl again. They're just too deep in another world and the sex was horribly mechanical. Maybe just two bad experiences. But they were enough to satisfy my curiosity.
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03-06-19 02:29 #44052
Posts: 5704Originally Posted by LittleBigMan [View Original Post]
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03-06-19 00:13 #44051
Posts: 662Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
The girl got seriously pissed at me (and I don't blame her). It took me some time to regain her trust, but we had known each other beforehand, so she could more readily accept my apologies and explanation that it was a complete accident.
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03-05-19 22:05 #44050
Posts: 3040Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
I too find it very hard to pull out of a pussy even when I promised a girl I would do so beforehand. One sweet little Pinay I knew smiled and said I was a "bad boy" when I failed to pull out of her the 1st time we were together. She apparently forgave me, however. We had several bareback sessions over the course of following week.
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03-05-19 22:03 #44049
Posts: 3040Originally Posted by DCups [View Original Post]
On large breasted girls:
You know that most of the time I prefer small natural breasted, no fat, spinners, but when I was in Macau on the last leg of my 2018 trip and I selected a great looking, tall (5' 8") very thin, Chinese girl with LARGE NATURAL TITS. I think you would have liked her. I did. Great service and I repeated twice with her. Viva la variety!
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03-05-19 21:48 #44048
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
The CIM thing I consider the biggest waste. You can easily pull out and shoot all over her face.
It's a little more effort to pull out of her pussy and cum on her face or body, but not that much. The videos I have where I cum inside the girl, I just delete them because I find them boring. It's extremely sexy to see a girl coated in cum.
Another reason it's better to finish outside is if you want a 2nd round. I don't like sloppy seconds, not even from myself.
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03-05-19 21:23 #44047
Posts: 3040When is it sex
Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
I think this whole take your dick out of her vagina so you can ejaculate on camera is total FAKE Hollywood. Originally it was only done in the porn videos to prove the sex was real. This is made clear in a scene from "Boogie Nights". Then somehow it caught on with a certain segment of the viewing public including YOU. LOL. No offence intended. I get it. You like to watch your own videos.
Anyway, when I am engaging in sexual congress, the last thing I want to do is break the rhythm/ break my feeling of euphoria and pull out to ejaculate during the last few seconds so's I can see my cum shoot all over a girl. Call me old school if you want, but I'm with Bill Clinton on this, it ain't sex if I don't cum in her vagina. (Just paraphrasing good ol' Bill, of course.) Opinions will vary.
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03-05-19 20:43 #44046
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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03-05-19 20:27 #44045
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
The risk is not my intended topic, but more like if get girls who give a really good time and possibly BBFS there.
My last attempt on Soi 4, the girl was skinny, quite stunning, very hot ass, and I think a deaf mute (signing), but she knocked me back and tried to push me onto her friend who was 2 or 3 points lower score for looks. Not sure why. My age maybe? Or perhaps she was not yet 18. I don't know. Could have been the bait and switch strategy. She could have communicated easy by typing Thai on her phone. When I can't get the best girl, I rarely settle on another inferior one.
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03-05-19 19:49 #44044
Posts: 3081Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
Yes, the quality is not always that good but the price is right. I have had several girls from Biergarten including a real busty one that I saw several times. Lost her number and geez I miss her. Man, she gave me a body bath with her tongue that was incredible.
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03-05-19 19:12 #44043
Posts: 304030 Something Girls
Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
So in the same price range / same age demographic, I think you can do better in FL bars like the Hillary Bars, Morning Night bar ect, or even the Soi 22 bars. And for a little more money you can find 30 somethings in the Go Go's. For example Baccara and Shark have a few very friendly, doable hostess girls available for takeout. Personally I have had the pleasure of a certain Shark Hostess girl a couple of times. She is a very nice girl. I also did a swan song session with an old favorite Baccara dancer just before she retired from the business and went back home. She was so horny and would hardly let me take a breath of air while I was licking her pussy until after she came. That was a fond memory although more memorable were the nights that occurred 6 years earlier when I first met her and she was really sexy, full of life, aiming to please, little Go Go dancer. Thai girls can age quickly, too quickly in some cases.
Then on my last BKK trip, I met a 30 something spinner in Twister believe it or not. I could not believe she was 35, she looked so much younger, but the main thing was she was still put together nicely and she was very, very enthusiastic (grateful & horny - bareback horny, EihTooms) in bed. So I had a great time with her although I decided later not to have a repeat due to the sheer number of sexy younger girls available. I have also had some fun with 30 something FL's in Spasso where many of the FL's are in the same age bracket as Bier Garten gals, but look sooooo much better IMHO and they are a lot more expensive obviously.
So everybody has different tastes. I won't knock Bier Garten girls too much. I am glad the bar still exists. My point is that there are a lot of places to find still attractive 30 something girls in BKK at various price points - high and low. Just look around. They are all over the place.